Windows Vista Stripped to the bone!

[Mighty_Jah]

Windows Vista


Windows Vista......Anyone using it, got a beta....hate it...love it...or even have an opinion on it..?

What are the benefits?

How much is it gonna be?

Is it gonna be riddled with spyware?

Why would I want another buggy MS product?

Whats up with XP anyway?

Will I be left out in the cold without vista?

Lets try to de-mist the whole Vista...topic
Please feel free to add your comments, links to info, reviews, experiences...!

Related Links:
The Official Vista Home >> http://www.microsoft.com/Windowsvista/

Unnoficial FAQ's >> http://www.activewin.com/faq/longhorn.shtml

Regards Mighty... :wink:

[Anonymous]

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[Mighty_Jah]

Yep Ive gotta say it certainly looks...nice, although Ive tried a vista theme that half heartedly tried to emmulate the Gui with in XP Pro.



Some old ish...Vista screenies for those who havent seen it yet

http://www.activewin.com/screenshots/longhorn/

http://www.activewin.com/screenshots/longhorn2/

http://www.activewin.com/screenshots/longhorn3/

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...gallery_01.asp

Vista Beta 2.0 Screenies >> http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...gallery_03.asp

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...gallery_04.asp



Regards Mighty... :wink:

[Mighty_Jah]

Some reviews of Various Vista Builds

http://www.winsupersite.com/vista/



mIGHTY... :wink:

[Mighty_Jah]

Some of the Pro's and Con's to consider

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...beta2_talk.asp


Mighty... :wink:

[Mighty_Jah]

A Quite funny Vista Rant, by some Person or other..!

Windows Vista
June 9th, 2006
Foreword: This is somewhat of an informal rant, it’s pretty much my notes tinkering in Windows Vista.

Am I the only one who is not very impressed with Windows Vista? Several things so far have just shown to be a complete turnoff:

It warns me about everything. Warnings stink, people just ignore them if they happen to often. This will prove to be effective security for about 2 weeks. After that, people will click OK without reading a thing. I got a security warning trying to show processes from all users in the task manager. Why? How can a Microsoft App not trust another Microsoft App? I’m guessing the next step is a CAPTCHA on each dialog.
Learning Curves are evil. The new Save dialog isn’t totally evil, but it’s quasi evil. It took me a few seconds to figure out how it works, and still feels really really awkward no matter what method I use to navigate. On a somewhat related note, took a while to find the familiar command prompt (it’s nested deep in the start menu now). Is there a “classic view” for the control panel like there was in XP? This “intuitive” stuff is just extra clicks and a waste of my time.
Despite my best effort, I’m still not sure why I’m denied permission to my own Application Data directory. It’s my data!
Start menu with scroll bars? Maximizing a folder caused scrollbars! Oh come on, that’s awkward, as if the old design wasn’t bad, now I have to scroll as well? What I’d really like is programs get sorted by category in the Start Menu (tagging) rather than how the publisher thinks they should be. That way you don’t get programs all over the place.
Killer feature? This is my biggest complaint. Other than shiny menu’s (which I’m not to fond of) and some new icons (which I do like), I don’t really see much in here that says “this is worth money”… not to mention in many cases you’ll want “Vista Ultimate” (or Vista ‘Take a Loan From The Bank’ Ultimate) if you want some of the features from various different editions they will be offering. If they include them all on 1 media anyway, why not let me pay per extra feature? Rather than these bundles? Perhaps I want some of the mobile and some of the business stuff, but don’t need the kitchen sink, dishwasher, and knit toaster cover.
But is there anything cool besides the icons? Well I tried out the new Parental Controls on a profile, and to my surprise, they don’t just effect IE, but everything including Firefox (because it’s likely sniffing the TCP/IP stack like it should). Of course a very fitting screenshot:

And for those wondering, it does give what seem to be pretty nice HTTP Headers, so it would be possible to sniff and serve up our own pretty error pages to keep a consistent UI if desired. I can’t vouch for the effectiveness of the filter, since I haven’t tested it for what it filters, only how it interacts.

So will I upgrade? I’m really not sure to be honest. I see a few things that make me hesitant:

Will my Thinkpad T43 handle it well? Or will it be sluggish and annoying (I’m running it virtualized right now, hence I said nothing about performance). I know the minimum specs are pretty low, but typically the minimum specs are nothing but a pipe dream, nothing you could use on a daily basis.
I don’t want to pay extra to keep the features I have with XP Pro.
Annoyances fixed… the above is really annoying stuff. Really annoying. I don’t think I’d be able to tolerate warnings all over the place. It’s just to distracting if even simple tasks involve signing wavers and sacrificing your first born child.
Perhaps I’m just fussy, or maybe I’m selfish for wanting an easy to use OS, that doesn’t have an abrasive security policy, is secure without locking me out of my own files or nagging me with warnings, and doesn’t cost me an arm and a leg to upgrade my somewhat new (less than a year old) hardware.
As far as next-generation OS’s go, my initial impression says Mac OS X, and Ubuntu still have a lead over Vista.

[matt_2k34]

\"just shown to be a complete turnoff: \"

Shows ya what kind of person wrote this review, i stopped reading here


Also i looked into vista and i must say it does look impressive, nice new functions and features, and i love the new \"Aero\" GUI...

Looks good, takes a more powerful pc, but hey- at least its putting some extra pressure on system builders to increase their 'lowest speed' pc's eh ?

Could see a big drop in prices of 'cheap' or old stuff now, like AGP cards as soon as this is released...

Also its now a public beta so get the new one ! Hehe - dual boot fun..



Windows Vista......Anyone using it, got a beta....hate it...love it...or even have an opinion on it..?

Looks good but i not used it yet, dont wanna dual boot on this system.

What are the benefits?

Alot of encryption, some nice new codecs, better looks, more flowing GUI more stable GUI, can do more alot faster, better use of CPU time,

How much is it gonna be?

Unknown to me, wait till its out in Q1 of 2007, (january i think tehy said..) and we will know then The home should be quite cheap but the fully featured one will no doubt cost a chunk of cash.

Is it gonna be riddled with spyware?

Highly doubt it, seems they have spent alot longer in beta and public beta on this one than xp to me.

Why would I want another buggy MS product?

Less buggy than XP- all OS's go cruddy as soon as its got more than one Service pack and more than about 50 security updates. too many patches slow it down...

Whats up with XP anyway?

XP will no longer be supported soon after vista is released, or at least, less / no more security updates leaving you very vulnerable !

Will I be left out in the cold without vista?

NO - you will with XP by 2008 they expect about 60-70% of peoiple to be on vista, ditching xp, and hopefully it will bring a new 'era' of computing like XP did, getting more people involved can only be a good thing - right ?

[Barley]

I downloaded the beta the other week, but I can't bring myself to install it at the moment