Audi Estate, a lot of bang for buck

[k3vst3r]

Guess i made my point badly there, its 6 years old but 112k on the clock, as you put nearly 20,000k a year, national travel survey states that national average is 8,500 miles a year for a car.


So this has done twice that every year and a bit more, the parts on it are effectively 12 years old, is anyone going to pay that for a 01 plate?

probably not

[scrivz69]

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classifi...65pp?logcode=p

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classifi...65pp?logcode=p

A little older a couple of grand cheaper and less miles.

05 Plate with less miles and still cheaper.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classifi...e/11?logcode=p

[coiler]

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classifi...65pp?logcode=p

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classifi...65pp?logcode=p

A little older a couple of grand cheaper and less miles.

05 Plate with less miles and still cheaper.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classifi...e/11?logcode=p

ill check these out later cheers

[scrivz69]

No worries mate, I hope you find something you want.

[coiler]

Guess i made my point badly there, its 6 years old but 112k on the clock, as you put nearly 20,000k a year, national travel survey states that national average is 8,500 miles a year for a car.


So this has done twice that every year and a bit more, the parts on it are effectively 12 years old, is anyone going to pay that for a 01 plate?

i guess this would depend on...

does double the mileage = double the wear?

[El Wayneo]

i guess this would depend on...

does double the mileage = double the wear?

i would take that as a given really,

[DoubleTop]

i guess this would depend on...

does double the mileage = double the wear?

no in my opinion, no. Wear on the seats doubled = yes but it's all about what type of miles. Taxi = bad type of miles, salesman motorway thrashing = good type of miles generally speaking and it's a balance between consumables and replaceable parts. L

ike a printer really - 10,000 pages of documentation versus 10,000 full page colour photo prints. Some parts will have equal wear for the same miles and it's consumables that will be changed - so is there any difference in wear on said example printer?

[El Wayneo]

no in my opinion, no. Wear on the seats doubled = yes but it's all about what type of miles. Taxi = bad type of miles, salesman motorway thrashing = good type of miles generally speaking and it's a balance between consumables and replaceable parts. L

ike a printer really - 10,000 pages of documentation versus 10,000 full page colour photo prints. Some parts will have equal wear for the same miles and it's consumables that will be changed - so is there any difference in wear on said example printer?

you could make anything up to support either side.


two pairs of trainers, one has 500 miles, one has 1,000 miles, which one has more wear? and yes its the same terrain, in the same weather.

yes there are different types of miles, in and around town or motorway, on the second, less gear changes and breaking, but parts of the engine are working harder at higher speeds.



If you had 2 Audi's and one has one 50k and the other 112k both in 6 years which would you get? honestly.

[k3vst3r]

you could make anything up to support either side.


two pairs of trainers, one has 500 miles, one has 1,000 miles, which one has more wear? and yes its the same terrain, in the same weather.

yes there are different types of miles, in and around town or motorway, on the second, less gear changes and breaking, but parts of the engine are working harder at higher speeds.



If you had 2 Audi's and one has one 50k and the other 112k both in 6 years which would you get? honestly.

one will full service history with documents proving regular oil changes etc rather get 112k well maintained car than 50k non maintained car

[DoubleTop]

Very true, you can easily make up comparisons - I suppose a lot of perception of high mileage does depends on the marque of motor. Climate can play a part as well, I'd take a 112K mileage motor from Birmingham over a 50K mileage motor from someone living by the coast and not putting it in a garage. There is no hard and fast rule, you can't just value a car on mileage, my parents Ford Mondy estate is about to roll over the 200k, yes it's lost a lot of power but it's a reliable old truck.

Mileage is an indicator of the life of the car, one of many.

[coiler]

you could make anything up to support either side.


two pairs of trainers, one has 500 miles, one has 1,000 miles, which one has more wear? and yes its the same terrain, in the same weather.

yes there are different types of miles, in and around town or motorway, on the second, less gear changes and breaking, but parts of the engine are working harder at higher speeds.



If you had 2 Audi's and one has one 50k and the other 112k both in 6 years which would you get? honestly.

the 50k one!

But it has to be less than my 7k budget, and I don't think i'd get an S type looking Audi, with all the leather heated seats and toys, with 50k for anywhere near £7k?


The guy who services mine has loads of taxi's with plus 200k on the clock, so i'm really not concerned at 112k.


I might go and have a look at it anyway, if it is motorway miles, like DT says, there are things which won't receive double the wear if double the miles, clutch, gears, brakes etc.

one will full service history with documents proving regular oil changes etc rather get 112k well maintained car than 50k non maintained car

THIS, as well

a low mile diesel, which has been babied, can have all sorts of issues with clogged up VNT and turbo vanes.

They perform best when opened up for long distances.

[El Wayneo]

one will full service history with documents proving regular oil changes etc rather get 112k well maintained car than 50k non maintained car

both cars are the same for the purpose of coilers question.

i guess this would depend on...

does double the mileage = double the wear?

Very true, you can easily make up comparisons - I suppose a lot of perception of high mileage does depends on the marque of motor. Climate can play a part as well, I'd take a 112K mileage motor from Birmingham over a 50K mileage motor from someone living by the coast and not putting it in a garage. There is no hard and fast rule, you can't just value a car on mileage, my parents Ford Mondy estate is about to roll over the 200k, yes it's lost a lot of power but it's a reliable old truck.

Mileage is an indicator of the life of the car, one of many.

I'll simplify it as i think whats in my head isnt getting on the screen.

You have 2 identical cars,

every day i drive the exact the same miles as the other car at the exact same time on the exact same roads.

now when we get to 50,000 miles i stop my car and it is kept in that condition in a glass box blah blah.


The other car goes onto to do another 50,000 miles, same roads.


We then compare cars, it may not be exact but you would say roughly that his car has double the wear on mine as its done double everything that mine has.

[coiler]

both cars are the same for the purpose of coilers question.






I'll simplify it as i think whats in my head isnt getting on the screen.

You have 2 identical cars,

every day i drive the exact the same miles as the other car at the exact same time on the exact same roads.

now when we get to 50,000 miles i stop my car and it is kept in that condition in a glass box blah blah.


The other car goes onto to do another 50,000 miles, same roads.


We then compare cars, it may not be exact but you would say roughly that his car has double the wear on mine as its done double everything that mine has.

but in the real world where are you ever going to get that scenario? no two cars will have ever been exposed to the same driving conditions, also the sell prices will be no where close to each other on a 50k vs 128k. Wear and tear also isn't exponential and also differs from part to part.....


For example my drivers seat has probably seen 50,000 miles more use than my passenger seat. Both seats are indistinguishable and in great condition.

My drivers door has probably been opened and closed quadruple that of my passenger door. Both doors are indistinguishable and in great condition.

The bodywork on my 98k passat is in worse condition with more stone chips then my 160k passat which was like it had just left the showroom.


A clutch that has double the mileage doesnt equal an exponential wear rate, it all depends on how much the clutch has been pressed over those miles.

My 98k passat has already had the clutch replaced at 70k
My 160k passat was still on the original clutch as all motorway miles.


So each car really has to be looked at in the flesh and theres a lot more to it then simply, low mileage always = better.

[Ninjacat]

might i make a suggestion



as for a nice motor i think 4x4 are over rated, but it depends on how much "off-roading" you are going to be doing, not to mention a car with enough tought(sp) to pull the Horse mobile.

[coiler]

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