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    Hexus' is up.

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    How hot are they!?!?!?!

    ill wait to see if there's another revision lol



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    Quote Originally Posted by gavbon View Post
    How hot are they!?!?!?!

    ill wait to see if there's another revision lol
    effect of the die getting smaller less area for heat dissipation

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    Quote Originally Posted by k3vst3r View Post
    effect of the die getting smaller less area for heat dissipation
    yeah, but surely with progression like that, they be un-coolable?



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    Quote Originally Posted by gavbon View Post
    yeah, but surely with progression like that, they be un-coolable?
    Idea is you use less vcore too, but seem's these chips need same vcore to hit same frequency as previous chips on bigger die. Shouldn't be the case of needing more vcore, perhaps we starting to see limits of silicon here.

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    tweaktown are using the pick any timezone excuse xD
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    Iris Pro is more exciting than Desktop Haswell tbf.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Terbinator View Post
    Hexus' is up.
    Wonder why there is no 8core AMD in that review.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by k3vst3r View Post
    Idea is you use less vcore too, but seem's these chips need same vcore to hit same frequency as previous chips on bigger die. Shouldn't be the case of needing more vcore, perhaps we starting to see limits of silicon here.
    Scrub what I said, actually reading up die got bigger compared to ivybridge

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    Quote Originally Posted by k3vst3r View Post
    Scrub what I said, actually reading up die got bigger compared to ivybridge
    probably used TIM again instead of solder

    really gutted tbh, might get one for some DICE benching, and re-sell it



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    Just be careful about some reviews out there. A lot of them are using ES. Nothing wrong with that but some of the ES can do a lot higher Overclocks (stable and bootable) with a lot less voltage than retail. Mileage will vary a lot depending on what cooling method and if your retail CPU is a duffer. The motherboard isn't the limitation in this case. Don't go thinking I'll buy a 200+ motherboard for 4.6+ Overclocks as some of the cheaper ones I've tested do exactly the same. If you can keep CPU temps under 80C and not breach any higher than 1.35v (1.3v ideally), well done. I don't think it's worth hitting 1.4v even on custom water.

    You may have noticed the other day we had some OEM speed-tested CPUs for sale. Whats interesting, these Haswell chip vary massively more so than other generations we've tested. Even though they were all from the same batch, to boot into the Windows desktop at 5GHz for example, a few can do so at 1.25v (like some ES CPUs I and reviewers have), others need 1.4-1.45v or higher.

    Those of you who are speed binning yourself to get decent chips to OC stable 4.6-4.8 with decent cooling & temps, look for those chips than can boot into Windows at 5GHz with 1.25-1.3v.

    Unfortunately, most are dogs. By that I mean 4.2-4.5 is probably going to be the max for most of you no matter what cooling method or motherboard. Lucky ones will hit 4.6. Anything 4.7 and over, count yourselves very lucky with your chip. Out of 60 tested, I found around 45 to be poor clockers. The others we're around 4.6-4.7. Very VERY few could do 4.8. The i7's are a flipping nightmare to get stable with high clocks as the hyper-threading rapes the temps when using OCCT 4.4.0 with AVX enabled on all logical cores. As some review site have claimed. 90-100C+ is true.

    Is it worth it? Overclockers, yes. Gamers, not so much. Mr Joe Bloggs, no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RawZ View Post
    they probably forgot to mention they are benching it on pluto



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    So one site can hit 5.4GHz on 1.45v whilst others really struggle to keep it at <5GHz on much less voltage without running into heat issues? I'm calling buuuuuullllllllll****. LOL.
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