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  • #16
    I would get a 7950 to be fair. Seems like you will get a lot more bang for buck.

    I'd say that 6GB of RAM which he already has is plenty and I wouldn't bother upgrading this just yet. Put the extra money towards the 7950 over the 660OC.

    Just my 2p. That's what I would do.
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    • #17
      i wouldnt get a 660 when its the same money as the 7950 which is killing it.

      ram wont be needed for gaming tbh, as nice as it would be its just epeen, as would be a ssd as once you boot into windows the difference is next to nothing....

      if you have a cooler already that fits, idk about the ram or any clearance issues so keep that in mind too, but for 250 i would look at a 7950 with a 3rd party blower and an oc on the cpu with that cooler and maybe push the ram up a little too and it would be a big jump in perf.
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      • #18
        Pretty much my views.

        It'll definitely help having the CPU overclocked a little. It shouldn't struggle to do 3.8 or 4GHz, depending on the cooler.
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        • #19
          4ghz is a given from the 920 with a good cooler, depending on the ram get it to 1600 min and that system will be great for games with a good gpu.
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          • #20
            I'd say if it is the original stepping, you know, the first ones, that you may struggle a little. But it shouldn't have an issue doing 3.8GHz.
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            • #21
              Cheers guys, one question. How do you overclock?
              I have no idea where to start with that tbh... I don't really think I need to squeeze every bit of performance out of it. The SSD & GPU will be enough!

              The 660's can be had for 180, 7950's are going for 230 odd which doesn't leave me with enough for the SSD. Can you compare a 660 to a 7950 or are they miles apart?

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              • #22
                They are miles apart. A 7950 competes against a GTX 670 and in most cases, especially when overclocked (and to my knowledge) outperforms it and performs to within 5% of a 7970 which beats a GTX 680.

                Overclocking, well, I'll help!

                Overclocking the CPU will raise your FPS considerably. It's well worth doing.
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                • #23
                  I use this site for a rough idea when comparing cards.

                  660 vs 7950 : http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/660?vs=550
                  660Ti vs 7950 : http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/647?vs=550

                  Just select cards from the drop-down and hit "view comparison"
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Spaceboy View Post
                    I use this site for a rough idea when comparing cards.

                    660 vs 7950 : http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/660?vs=550
                    660Ti vs 7950 : http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/647?vs=550

                    Just select cards from the drop-down and hit "view comparison"
                    worth noting that anandtech probably needs to redo their charts for newest drivers for AMD 12.11 cat's changed things quite a bit when comes to bf3 like 30% jump in fps, so where chart shows standard 660 @ 180 beating 7950 in bf3 @ 1080p isn't the case anymore

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by k3vst3r View Post
                      worth noting that anandtech probably needs to redo their charts for newest drivers for AMD 12.11 cat's changed things quite a bit when comes to bf3 like 30% jump in fps, so where chart shows standard 660 @ 180 beating 7950 in bf3 @ 1080p isn't the case anymore
                      True, it's a rough guide... more so because different games prefer different cards and both Green and Red teams bring out improvements quite regularly these days offering small overall gains and larger gains for individual titles.#

                      Truth is there's no definitive guide so it's all rule-of-thumb
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Spaceboy View Post
                        True, it's a rough guide... more so because different games prefer different cards and both Green and Red teams bring out improvements quite regularly these days offering small overall gains and larger gains for individual titles.#

                        Truth is there's no definitive guide so it's all rule-of-thumb
                        Yeah it's rough guide, just pointed out bit which is way out now

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                        • #27
                          driver updates are why those sites like anand and toms are only good to see if a game like red or green more, i bet none of the cards are as bad as they are in those charts today.

                          rough guide to ocing 1366;

                          1.35v core
                          1.2v imc
                          1.7v ram
                          200 blk
                          x8 ram =1600
                          rest on auto

                          of course you may find you need a little less/more volts for your cpu or ram depending on how good the ic is but i dont think i would give much more than 50mv over those for 24/7 use and temps would dictate my volts ultimately.
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