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    Hi,

    I'm delighted with my recent upgrade to a Sapphire TriX 290. I'm looking for a cpu upgrade next.

    I'm doing quite a bit of video editing and H.264 encoding. I'm looking for something to eat down those encoding times. I'm thinking i7 is the way to go, but should I stick with 1155, or is a mobo upgrade and a newer CPU going to get me massive speed increases vs sticking with 1155?

    Also I need more RAM and faster RAM.

    Please spec me a CPU and RAM upgrade (and mobo if you think that's the way to go).

    Thanks
    Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) @ 4.50GHz cooled with a Coolermaster Seidon 120V|16GB (2x8GB) Corsair Vengeance Blue Low Profile 1600MHz|OCZ Solid 3 120GB SSD with Win 7 x64|1TB Seagate Barracuda| 750GB Seagate Barracuda ES ST3750641NS |Sapphire TriX R9 290 4GB | Creative Sound Blaster ZxR all plugged into a GIGABYTE GA-Z87X-D3H powered by 850W Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro P9 all wrapped in a NZXT Phantom Black Enthusiast Full Tower Chassis

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    cpu vs cpu the sandy or ivy i7 is not far behind the 1150 i7.

    z77 vs z87 on the other hand is a worth upgrade in my eyes as everything plugged into mine is faster now than it was in either of the 1155 chipsets it replaced.

    real question is how much do you want to spend?

    get a 2700k for about 200, spend 400 on a 4770k and z87 mobo. both will give you a boost in encoding but it will not be double the performance for double the cost you know
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    • #3
      Originally posted by marsey99 View Post
      cpu vs cpu the sandy or ivy i7 is not far behind the 1150 i7.

      z77 vs z87 on the other hand is a worth upgrade in my eyes as everything plugged into mine is faster now than it was in either of the 1155 chipsets it replaced.

      real question is how much do you want to spend?

      get a 2700k for about 200, spend 400 on a 4770k and z87 mobo. both will give you a boost in encoding but it will not be double the performance for double the cost you know
      I think it might be more cost effective to spend the 400 now. Otherwise I can see myself spending the 200 on a CPU just to replace the mobo further down the line anyways.

      Am I correct in my thinking that the only real benefit of 2011 is the extra PCIe lanes, so unless I'm going 3 or 4 graphics cards, might as well stay 1150?

      Would you be so kind as to recomend a mobo and 16GB of RAM to go with the Haswell i7-4770k.

      Many thanks
      Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) @ 4.50GHz cooled with a Coolermaster Seidon 120V|16GB (2x8GB) Corsair Vengeance Blue Low Profile 1600MHz|OCZ Solid 3 120GB SSD with Win 7 x64|1TB Seagate Barracuda| 750GB Seagate Barracuda ES ST3750641NS |Sapphire TriX R9 290 4GB | Creative Sound Blaster ZxR all plugged into a GIGABYTE GA-Z87X-D3H powered by 850W Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro P9 all wrapped in a NZXT Phantom Black Enthusiast Full Tower Chassis

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      • #4
        If you can't see yourself overclocking then the Xeon E3-1230 V3 is effectively a 4770K without the iGPU or ability to overclock, and could save you some money towards more RAM.

        As Marsey said, definitely agree on Z87 as the chipset does seem much better. For me, it's either...

        or
        ...if you don't want to smash your 400 budget - at 130ish for 16GB RAM the latter choice would be closer to 500 than 400. I do think it's worth using 1600MHz RAM, especially for video encodes and since Haswell as an architecture supports it. Gone for Gigabyte boards as they have epic UK RMA service if anything does go wrong. Note the top mobo comes with a free basic watercooler too to help keep temps low.
        Last edited by NickCPC; 08-02-14, 13:02.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by NickCPC View Post
          If you can't see yourself overclocking then the Xeon E3-1230 V3 is effectively a 4770K without the iGPU or ability to overclock, and could save you some money towards more RAM.

          As Marsey said, definitely agree on Z87 as the chipset does seem much better. For me, it's either...

          or
          ...if you don't want to smash your 400 budget - at 130ish for 16GB RAM the latter choice would be closer to 500 than 400. I do think it's worth using 1600MHz RAM, especially for video encodes and since Haswell as an architecture supports it. Gone for Gigabyte boards as they have epic UK RMA service if anything does go wrong. Note the top mobo comes with a free basic watercooler too to help keep temps low.
          Thanks for the suggestions. I will certainly be overclocking, so it's the i7 all the way. Don't mind spending a bit extra for faster RAM. I already have a good air cooling solution running an Intel Core i5-2500K Sandybridge OC @4.5GHz. I get idle/gaming temps of around 40 degs C and when encoding, never rises above 55.

          If the water cooler would equal that performance, it'd be a massive advantage due to the space saved, that dual fan cpu cooler really eats the space up!

          Other than the free water cooler, what's the difference between those 2 boards?

          Thanks again for you're help.
          Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) @ 4.50GHz cooled with a Coolermaster Seidon 120V|16GB (2x8GB) Corsair Vengeance Blue Low Profile 1600MHz|OCZ Solid 3 120GB SSD with Win 7 x64|1TB Seagate Barracuda| 750GB Seagate Barracuda ES ST3750641NS |Sapphire TriX R9 290 4GB | Creative Sound Blaster ZxR all plugged into a GIGABYTE GA-Z87X-D3H powered by 850W Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro P9 all wrapped in a NZXT Phantom Black Enthusiast Full Tower Chassis

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          • #6
            Right, I've ordered the mobo GIGABYTE GA-Z87X-UD4H Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) + FREE Watercooler Motherboard Bundle, as the stock seemed a bit low. Not sure if I'd benefit from some faster o/c-able RAM rather than 1600MH. Definantly opting for the Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail .

            Thanks for your help.
            Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) @ 4.50GHz cooled with a Coolermaster Seidon 120V|16GB (2x8GB) Corsair Vengeance Blue Low Profile 1600MHz|OCZ Solid 3 120GB SSD with Win 7 x64|1TB Seagate Barracuda| 750GB Seagate Barracuda ES ST3750641NS |Sapphire TriX R9 290 4GB | Creative Sound Blaster ZxR all plugged into a GIGABYTE GA-Z87X-D3H powered by 850W Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro P9 all wrapped in a NZXT Phantom Black Enthusiast Full Tower Chassis

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            • #7
              Sorry for the delay, been out and about. If you want to compare the motherboards, try this link: http://uk.gigabyte.com/products/comp...pids=4488,4518 - basically I think the UD4H has a few more toys, slightly higher quality audio chipset and DisplayPort but otherwise they aren't a million miles apart. I'm glad to see you've ordered it though, I think the free watercooler is a great offer - it's performance isn't top of the range but it will be on par with most air coolers and hopefully quieter too (plus you can always change the fan for a few quid if you really don't like it). Much less weight on the motherboard too.

              I think the cost v performance gain for faster RAM is very much not noticeable. Anandtech did a test recently and thought 1833MHz (especially if you had an AMD APU) was the sweet spot, but RAM in the US is much cheaper than here so I think 1600MHz is still the sweet spot - and in your case if you can afford 16GB I'd definitely take that as opposed to a faster 8GB set for video encodes. 4770K is still a great shout too.
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