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  • I3R0K3N7FEET
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    http://forums.aria.co.uk/showpost.ph...&postcount=934

    repost. i would suggest looking at the SB VS BD thread for latest news.

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  • Ferriman
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    Anyone know the latest on the release date? Still June?

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  • Nick259
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    I recommended that my friend waits for bulldozer to come out before upgrading so I really hope these preform well

    Prices look promising though!

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  • DennisMenace
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    In most benchmarks, 2500K's perform on a par with 2600K's, as few apps can take advantage of 8 threads.

    Won't there be a similar problem with octo-core BD? A few "artificial" benchmarks will register a marked improvement, but "real world"/games won't be optimised for 8 threads/cores. In which case 2500K will continue to be the best all-rounder.

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  • MatthewMcEwan
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    I think I'll wait to see the benchmarks before choosing Bulldozer or SB. Unless Bulldozer is offering substantial performance increases I reckon I'll grab a 2500k

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  • Boomstick777
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    Originally posted by shawry View Post
    it would seem prudent to invest in a decent mobo and a 2500k which would be ample good enough for a good while, then see what IB brings to the table.
    Yeah exactly, I think 2500k/2600k is Intels best value CPU's probably ever, the fact they made the current motherboards compatble with Ivybridge is a good move aswell, gives a long upgrade path. You can grab a P67 mobo for around 80 and a 2500k/2600k for 150/220 awesome value imo. Bulldozer will have to be special to beat that kind of value?
    Originally posted by shawry View Post
    From this point of view it really looks like AMD need to skip a generation and take a risk and go for the next best thing, as things stand they seem to spend their time playing catch up, and rarely succeeding.
    I think AMD are going to do very well in the notebook/laptop market, as well as HTPC and business market with the new cpu range. Intel are dominating the desktop though more than ever becausce now they offer best bang for buck aswell.
    Last edited by Boomstick777; 25-05-11, 17:28.

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  • shawry
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    As I understand it Ivybridge will work in SB boards?

    If thats the case, it would seem prudent to invest in a decent mobo and a 2500k which would be ample good enough for a good while, then see what IB brings to the table.

    From this point of view it really looks like AMD need to skip a generation and take a risk and go for the next best thing, as things stand they seem to spend their time playing catch up, and rarely succeeding.

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  • Boomstick777
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    Originally posted by Martin View Post
    If BD is good. The 8 core will be the benchmark beast for a while until Ivy.
    Not until Ivy.. Only until Socket LGA 2011, I highly doubt even the top end x 8 core FX Bulldozer will outperform the x 4 core 2600k anyway, at least not by much. Otherwise AMD would have priced it much higher?

    Intel need only to release another 1155 cpu to stay competitive enough until socket 2011. They could introduce a 2800K for example and still keep the performance lead..

    They will probably be fairly even, and keep milking us of our money for the next year anyway, im holding out until Ivybridge 28nm before my next upgrade. Will avoid Bulldzoer and Socket LGA 2011. Can't imagine needing anymore power than 2600K for a long while. Maybe the Unreal 3 engine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgS67BwPfFY) will test it, but that is a long way away..

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  • gavbon
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    ill be sticking with sandybridge

    we all know ivybridge will out perform bulldozer anyway, its just a question of playing the waiting game, and asking, do i actually need to upgrade and change mobo/chipset etc

    my answer is nooo

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  • Martin
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    If BD is good. The 8 core will be the benchmark beast for a while until Ivy.

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  • shawry
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    Without seeing any reviews I really struggle to see how AMD can actually compete?

    The chart in the link gives its intel competitor - is that in price point or performance?

    With Intel already establishing the benchmark for performance, then surely AMD have missed the boat? To grab market share they need a lower price point for comparative performance to tempt new users.

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  • andyn
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    TBH I think Intel probably NEEDS AMD to not fail too hard, because otherwise the world's various monopoly regulation committees start to get twitchy . Having a legitimate competitor which doesn't really pose any major threat to them is very convenient.

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  • Boomstick777
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    Originally posted by El Wayneo View Post
    Hmmm i think if intel thought there was any threat from bd then they wouldnt have pushed back ivy.
    +1

    I think Intel will allow AMD some breathing space with Bulldozer's release to keep it competitive, then later in the year release Sandy Bridge LGA 2011 6 and 8 cores, this will be enough to beat AMD's top end but not destroy it. Then next year release Ivybridge and destroy anything on the market again with cheap powerful mainstream CPU's that beat all the previous gen like they did with 2500k 2600k over the previous x58 top end.

    They do this to milk as much money from the consumer as possible, they release things slowly to keep a steady revenue stream. If they wanted to they could bring Ivybridge forward and destroy AMD's Bulldozer, but this would mean missing out on more revenue from 2011 high end Sandybridge at the end of the year!

    Im sticking with my 2600K for as long as possible, then will chuck in an Ivybridge CPU next year, going to miss out on socket LGA 2011 altogether. I see no reason to upgrade, its not as if my 2600K at 4.6GHZ is holding anything back lol.

    + I paid 275 for my 2600k on release day, its already depreciated lol, can get them for around 220 now . Im holding on to this cpu for a while so I get a lot of use out of it, LGA 2011 won't be enough of an upgrade to justify the cost of new Mobo etc for me. Ivybridge will be though, going to 28nm and the new 3D power design is like two years of design upgrades in one, it should be a HUGE upgrade from Sandybridge 1155 and hopefully will slot into my P67 mobo
    Last edited by Boomstick777; 25-05-11, 16:39.

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  • El Wayneo
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    Hmmm i think if intel thought there was any threat from bd then they wouldnt have pushed back ivy.

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  • Nathan94
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    Still eager to see benchmarks!!

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