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Monkey
10-03-09, 17:39
May possibly be building a PC for someone i know

Just wondering if anyone can look at these specs and tell me what they would change

XFX Geforce 9800 GT ‘XXX’ 512 MB DDR3 PCI-E 2.0 (https://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Graphics+Cards/PCI-E/nVIDIA+GeForce+9+Series/XFX+Geforce+9800+GT+%E2%80%98XXX%E2%80%99+512+MB+D DR3+PCI-E+2.0+?productId=33330)
OCZ 4GB PC2-6400 Platinum Vista (2x2GB) (https://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Memory/DDR2/DDR2+800+%28PC6400%29/OCZ+4GB+PC2-6400+Platinum+Vista+%282x2GB%29+?productId=32243)
OCZ 500W StealthXstream PSU (https://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Power+Supplies/500w+%2B/OCZ+500W+StealthXstream+PSU+?productId=29090)
Coolermaster Elite 334 Black no PSU (https://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Cases/MIDI+Tower/Coolermaster+Elite+334+Black+no+PSU?productId=3329 9)
LiteOn 18x DVDROM SATA Black (https://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/CD%2FDVD+Drives/Internal/SATA/LiteOn+18x+DVDROM+SATA+Black?productId=34739)
Intel Core 2 Duo E4700 2.60GHz (Retail 775) (https://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/CPUs+%2F+Processors/Intel/Core+2+Duo/Intel+Core+2+Duo+E4700+2.60GHz+%28Retail+775%29+?p roductId=31123)
Asus P5QL Pro iP43 Socket 775 Motherboard (https://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Motherboards/Socket+775+%28Intel%29/Asus+P5QL+Pro+iP43+Socket+775+Motherboard+?product Id=34965)
160GB Samsung Spinpoint SATA2 8MB (https://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Hard+Drives/Serial+ATA/160GB+Samsung+Spinpoint+SATA2+8MB+?productId=27006 )

Any ideas would be very much appreciated
nft99
10-03-09, 17:41
change the graphics card for a gts250 ?

cpu to an e5200 ?
Lynx
10-03-09, 18:00
That graphics card is madness, the 4850 is better and cheaper, but then again a gts 250 would be suitable if similarly priced.
Aaron
10-03-09, 18:09
What's the PC going to be used for?
mac124
10-03-09, 19:18
Errr why the e4700 for £114 when an e7400 is £15 cheaper? (even when its not on superspecial as it is now)

http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/CPUs+%2F+Processors/Intel/Core+2+Duo/Intel+Core+2+Duo+E7400+2.80GHz+(Retail+775)+?produ ctId=34748 (http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/CPUs+%2F+Processors/Intel/Core+2+Duo/Intel+Core+2+Duo+E7400+2.80GHz+%28Retail+775%29+?p roductId=34748)
Monkey
11-03-09, 00:06
change the graphics card for a gts250 ?

cpu to an e5200 ?
Is that CPU any good compared

That graphics card is madness, the 4850 is better and cheaper, but then again a gts 250 would be suitable if similarly priced.
It was just a quick mockup to get a price and an idea, how does the 4850 fair to the gtx250?

Errr why the e4700 for £114 when an e7400 is £15 cheaper? (even when its not on superspecial as it is now)

http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/CPUs+%2F+Processors/Intel/Core+2+Duo/Intel+Core+2+Duo+E7400+2.80GHz+(Retail+775)+?produ ctId=34748 (http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/CPUs+%2F+Processors/Intel/Core+2+Duo/Intel+Core+2+Duo+E7400+2.80GHz+%28Retail+775%29+?p roductId=34748)
I did notice shortly after posting this :P

EDIT: Oh, and aiming around the 450 mark too
El Wayneo
11-03-09, 00:07
Yeah E7400 all the way, or a budget E5200/5300 as already mentioned.

If it was me on a budget build i would get the Biostar P43, with an E5*00, why???

Because the Biostar Mobos P43/P45 are the best budget/OC boards there is, stable, all the features you need.

Unless you already have the HDD go for a 320GB with 16Mb cache, 8Mb cache is crap, Hitachi Deskstar or Samsung F1 as they have lower seek times, makes a big difference.

Agree on the graphics aswell, 4850 or the cheapo 9800GTX+ is a good 25% gain for a few squids.

Coolermaster make awesome cases, even the budgets are good, plus i recommend the Xilence 12cm fans as they are very very silent, the PSU are good as well, the quietist i have ever heard and good for budget builds.
El Wayneo
11-03-09, 00:08
E5200 is equal to the older E7200 (about 5% difference)

Will do a prospective build if you like?
El Wayneo
11-03-09, 00:28
Have a look.

Comes it at £365 without a case or O/S.

Intel E5200 (Alot cheaper for 300Mhz less and 1Mb cache loss, easily OC to 3.5Ghz)
Arctic Freezer 7 Pro (Really good budget cooler and yes its silent)
Kingston 4GB 1066Mhz
Biostar P43
Hitachi 320GB (16Mb Cache, 8.5 seektime)
OCZ 600W (Greater flexibility and more future proof than 500W)
Nvidia 9800GTX+

Use the Win7 beta and its a pretty decent system for the money.

Oh how come i can't add an attachment of my Aria shopping basket using snipping tool on Vista?
nft99
11-03-09, 08:36
gts 250 is the replacement for the 9800gtx+ its a slightly smaller card that uses less power as well :) prices are not to bad either

http://www.aria.co.uk/Products?search=gts+250
Monkey
11-03-09, 10:47
Have a look.

Comes it at £365 without a case or O/S.

Intel E5200 (Alot cheaper for 300Mhz less and 1Mb cache loss, easily OC to 3.5Ghz)
Arctic Freezer 7 Pro (Really good budget cooler and yes its silent)
Kingston 4GB 1066Mhz
Biostar P43
Hitachi 320GB (16Mb Cache, 8.5 seektime)
OCZ 600W (Greater flexibility and more future proof than 500W)
Nvidia 9800GTX+

Use the Win7 beta and its a pretty decent system for the money.

Oh how come i can't add an attachment of my Aria shopping basket using snipping tool on Vista?
Looking to get around £400 inc. VAT

EDIT: and i dont mean this kind of vat
http://www.blogcdn.com/news.bigdownload.com/media/2008/08/13442fallout3vatsbehemothjuly15.jpg
El Wayneo
11-03-09, 12:42
So if you forget the Arctic 7 cooler and get the LG DVD thats on special with a Coolermaster Elite Case its £400 on the nose.

There is now a 500GB Hitachi for the same price on the specials.

I wouldn't let your mate skimp too much as he will just end up spending more to upgrade later.

The only real place you can save cash is on the RAM, instead of paying £48 for 4GB he could get 2GB of the Aria stuff for £16, i have used it in Media Centres for people in cheapish builds and its okay.

If he needs an OS aswell for £400 then he might aswell get a prebuilt as with paying VAT on components he will struggle.
Monkey
11-03-09, 12:44
No need to worrie about OS, and i have looked on super specials and there are some nice cheap HDD's
mac124
11-03-09, 16:58
The arctic cooler is cheap and a reasonable cooler but it by no means silent, quiet yeah maybe till it gets going at approaching full chat, well my freezer pro 64 isn't "silent" anyway.
Monkey
11-03-09, 17:03
Mines pretty quiet but its hard to tell how much noise it makes when you have the noisiest GPU in the world! :P
wonderlust
11-03-09, 17:31
Freezer pros are sielnt until loaded then noisey as hell lol, but I am still running 4 of them :D
El Wayneo
11-03-09, 18:31
Maybe you guys should enable the quiet fan mode in your BIOS then or get boards that support a quiet mode.
wonderlust
11-03-09, 18:47
2 of my PCs are running with PWM enabled, the other Freezer Pros are non PWM versions, one is running through a fanmate.

But it still doesnt mean that the Freezer Pros at full speed are quiet they are noisey.
mac124
11-03-09, 19:04
i am running it in "quiet mode" as controlled by the mobo once it's fan gets to around 75% its easily noticable and by 100% its just about bearable, this is on a media center so the rest of the stuff is pretty quiet.

Try loading your cpu up and tell me yours is "silent" when its fan running pretty fast :|.
Aaron
11-03-09, 22:40
My Freezer 7 is running in PWM mode.. As everyone says, it is pretty silent when at a low speed, but the noise really kicks in as it pushes towards 100% speed - which it very rarely does, unless I manually set it :)