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well i need some adivce im was going for a Gladiator Titan but thought ill build 1 from sratch and this is wot ive got so far in mind but need to know which is the best menory and ram to go with it
Antec Twelve Hundred Ultimate Gamer
ATI Radeon HD4670 1GB DDR3 PCI-E 2 of these
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz 95W G0 Stepping (Retail 775)
1TB Samsung Spinpoint F1 SATA2 7200RPM 32MB cache
OCZ Vendetta 2 CPU Fan (Socket 754, 939, 940, AM2, LGA775)
OCZ 700W Fatal1ty Series Power Supply
also looking for a Creative Sound Blaster 7.1 X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Champion Series dos aria sell these ???
I would save £5 and change PSU to
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Power+Supplies/PC+Power+%26+Cooling+SILENCER+750+Quad+%28Red%29+? productId=27967
are you using this for gaming?
I would keep the motherboard onboard sound which is very high end and more than adequate.(presuming you get a half decent board) with the sound card £££ saving upgrade graphics slightly.
Kingston 4gb 1066 memory is at a cracking price at the moment, good buy now over the 800 memory.
https://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Memory/DDR2/DDR2+1066+%28PC8500%29/Kingston+4GB+PC2-8500+HyperX+%282x2GB%29+?productId=33636
A forum favourite and my own motherboard
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Motherboards/Socket+775+%28Intel%29/Asus+P5Q-E+iP45+Socket+775+Motherboard+?productId=32296
wonderlust
27-01-09, 13:14
Why are you looking at getting the 4670?
they are a poor performing card with only 128 bit memory bus.
I would go for a single 4850 for the same sort of money as 2 4650s
1Gb of ram on a low end graphics card is just to fool people into buying a more expensive card.
well spotted wonderlust! I concur, NEVER SLI or Crossfire two cheaps cards to try and cheat your way to a good gfx setup. Simply buy a single decent card in the first place :)
This will suffice
https://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Graphics+Cards/PCI-E/ATI+Radeon+4000+Series/ATi+Radeon+HD+4850+512MB+PCI-E2.0+?productId=33455
I would save £5 and change PSU to
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Power+Supplies/PC+Power+%26+Cooling+SILENCER+750+Quad+%28Red%29+? productId=27967
are you using this for gaming?
I would keep the motherboard onboard sound which is very high end and more than adequate.(presuming you get a half decent board) with the sound card £££ saving upgrade graphics slightly.
Kingston 4gb 1066 memory is at a cracking price at the moment, good buy now over the 800 memory.
https://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Memory/DDR2/DDR2+1066+%28PC8500%29/Kingston+4GB+PC2-8500+HyperX+%282x2GB%29+?productId=33636
A forum favourite and my own motherboard
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Motherboards/Socket+775+%28Intel%29/Asus+P5Q-E+iP45+Socket+775+Motherboard+?productId=32296
for the onboard sound could have but realy want Creative Sound Blaster 7.1 X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty :)
The motherbaod and memory are nice, for the mother broad it says 16 GB (max) so if i put 12gig that be fine
Why are you looking at getting the 4670?
they are a poor performing card with only 128 bit memory bus.
I would go for a single 4850 for the same sort of money as 2 4650s
1Gb of ram on a low end graphics card is just to fool people into buying a more expensive card.
well spotted wonderlust! I concur, NEVER SLI or Crossfire two cheaps cards to try and cheat your way to a good gfx setup. Simply buy a single decent card in the first place :)
This will suffice
https://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Graphics+Cards/PCI-E/ATI+Radeon+4000+Series/ATi+Radeon+HD+4850+512MB+PCI-E2.0+?productId=33455
ive pick the wroung graphics card was ment to type 4850 x 2 soz guys my fault lol
and another qestion is what is a good setup to have i7 CPU and DDR3 ram this 1 not for me jsut got ask over xfire and im not to sure myself
wonderlust
27-01-09, 13:58
i7 and probably the i720 lol
thats the only real platfrom that makes use of ddr3
for the onboard sound could have but realy want Creative Sound Blaster 7.1 X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty :)
The motherbaod and memory are nice, for the mother broad it says 16 GB (max) so if i put 12gig that be fine
ive pick the wroung graphics card was ment to type 4850 x 2 soz guys my fault lol
and another qestion is what is a good setup to have i7 CPU and DDR3 ram this 1 not for me jsut got ask over xfire and im not to sure myself
Which opertaing system are you running?
I7 and DDr3 are very hard to justify on a cost versus performance increase basis
i7>c2d
tbh it depends alot on what you use your pc for, if your heavy into video encoding or rendering alot of high res images then the ht on the the i7 cpu will run rings around the core2. if on the other hand your mostly gaming (gpu choice leads me to belive this) then a fast core2 will be plenty and the extra cash would be better spent on graphics power.
Which opertaing system are you running?
I7 and DDr3 are very hard to justify on a cost versus performance increase basis
dont know it was an ex clan that i was in that ask me and he hasnt been on yet to know more
i7>c2d
tbh it depends alot on what you use your pc for, if your heavy into video encoding or rendering alot of high res images then the ht on the the i7 cpu will run rings around the core2. if on the other hand your mostly gaming (gpu choice leads me to belive this) then a fast core2 will be plenty and the extra cash would be better spent on graphics power.
well for myself XP atm but wanting to use dual OS and its for mealy for gaming too
The motherbaod and memory are nice, for the mother broad it says 16 GB (max) so if i put 12gig that be fine
If your running XP, installing 12gb memory would be ludicrous :thumbsdn: don't go higher than 2gb if on XP.
ok so wot about Vista 64bit then ?
Any amount of ram is good on Vista 64bit, 4GB is the sweet spot atm. 6GB on i7 systems.
Well, technically... :lol: ;)
Windows Version / Limit on 32Bit Software / Limit on 64Bit Software
Windows Vista Ultimate / 4 GB / 128 GB
Windows Vista Enterprise / 4 GB / 128 GB
Windows Vista Business / 4 GB / 128 GB
Windows Vista Home Premium / 4 GB / 16 GB
Windows Vista Home Basic / 4 GB / 8 GB
Windows Vista Starter / 1 GB / Not applicable
But yeah, pretty much unlimited for todays needs. If you're running Home Basic, you wont be doing anything that you need more than 8Gb Ram for :lol:
The other limits of 16Gb and 128Gb arent needed for 99.9% of todays PCs.. Although thats not to say we won't in the future.. ;)
well thanks for all ya help u lot clear that up easy for me :)
so what have you decided on component wise then? :)
well with ur help guys ive mind my mind up this is it and time to start saving lol
Antec Twelve Hundred Ultimate Gamer
Asus P5Q-E iP45 Socket 775 Motherboard
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz 95W G0 Stepping (Retail 775)
1TB Samsung Spinpoint F1 SATA2 7200RPM 32MB cache
ATi Radeon HD 4850 512MB PCI-E2.0
OCZ Vendetta 2 CPU Fan
Kingston 4GB PC2-8500 HyperX
PC Power & Cooling SILENCER 750 Quad (Red) << wish they had in black to go with the case lol
Will Have Windows Xp Pro and Vista Ultimate installed
cheers :)
in black here
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Power+Supplies/500w+%2B/PC+Power+%26+Cooling+SILENCER+750+QUAD+%28Black%29 +?productId=27379
although looking at final build now the 610 version I have would be more than enough!
see here >>>
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Power+Supplies/500w+%2B/PC+Power+%26+Cooling+SILENCER+610+?productId=27381
i dont know why the red is cheaper than the black..cos the red is painted over the black anyway lol
in black here
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Power+Supplies/500w+%2B/PC+Power+%26+Cooling+SILENCER+750+QUAD+%28Black%29 +?productId=27379
although looking at final build now the 610 version I have would be more than enough!
see here >>>
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Power+Supplies/500w+%2B/PC+Power+%26+Cooling+SILENCER+610+?productId=27381
il have the first link m8 cheers
i dont know why the red is cheaper than the black..cos the red is painted over the black anyway lol
Red is lighter than black. Costs less to ship.. ;)
but but but lol it still has the black below the red therefore making it heavier than the black on it's own :P
ah yes but you can't see the black ergo its lighter :D
Doesn't black absorb more light than red? Red absorbs all light but red, black absorbs it all INCLUDING red. Therefore the black will contain more light, and will be heavier.
Thinking about it, that doesn't make sense. Maybe because it absorbs more light, that makes it lighter.... and that brings us back to why it's cheaper. It weighs less because it absorbs lightness, making it cheaper to handle and ship. Also it's easier to store - you just let it float to the roof of the warehouse (with a string attached, of course).
Okay, that's definately the scientific reason.
You're welcome.
Go modular
Don't go modular, the ohm's arn't as stable. Pc power and cooling are a huge enthusiast brand and make NONE modular for a reason :thumbsup:
Doesn't black absorb more light than red? Red absorbs all light but red, black absorbs it all INCLUDING red. Therefore the black will contain more light, and will be heavier.
Thinking about it, that doesn't make sense. Maybe because it absorbs more light, that makes it lighter.... and that brings us back to why it's cheaper. It weighs less because it absorbs lightness, making it cheaper to handle and ship. Also it's easier to store - you just let it float to the roof of the warehouse (with a string attached, of course).
Okay, that's definately the scientific reason.
You're welcome.
How about due to supply and demand the black isn't as popular hence less produced hence more cost per unit. Economies of scale and all that :thumbsup::lol:
Doesn't black absorb more light than red? Red absorbs all light but red, black absorbs it all INCLUDING red. Therefore the black will contain more light, and will be heavier.
Thinking about it, that doesn't make sense. Maybe because it absorbs more light, that makes it lighter.... and that brings us back to why it's cheaper. It weighs less because it absorbs lightness, making it cheaper to handle and ship. Also it's easier to store - you just let it float to the roof of the warehouse (with a string attached, of course).
Okay, that's definately the scientific reason.
You're welcome.
LOL! :lol: Post of the week +rep :thumbsup:
Going back to the 64-bit thing, you can get XP 64-bit too.
LOL! :lol: Post of the week +rep :thumbsup:
Going back to the 64-bit thing, you can get XP 64-bit too.
but wouldnt as it's it carp...
but wouldnt as it's it carp...
+2 XP 64 is like a chocolate fireguard
wonderlust
29-01-09, 17:19
+3 no next to no driver support
+4 just cos I can go +4 :P
+ 5 - I didn't say it was a good idea!
/5*6 (I wanted to be slightly different)
Definately go with 64-bit vista. 64-bit windows 7 will be pretty much the only way to go; but for now Vista64>XP64 by a long way.
LOL! :lol: Post of the week +rep :thumbsup:
Going back to the 64-bit thing, you can get XP 64-bit too.
ya i know m8 but ive got 2 hard drives allrdy 1 has got XP 32bit installed
but wouldnt as it's it carp...
?
+3 no next to no driver support
well ive got driver genuis that will do lol
+4 just cos I can go +4 :P
lol
/5*6 (I wanted to be slightly different)
Definately go with 64-bit vista. 64-bit windows 7 will be pretty much the only way to go; but for now Vista64>XP64 by a long way.
guys remember its for gaming and ive got a lot of old games like UT99, old star trek games i still play that only run on XP anyways and cant run on vista that y i wanna go daul OS and may be have windows 7 on later
also rep'ing the lot of ya :)
If it runs on XP it'll virtually always run on vista.
Just right click the exe, properties: then run it in compatability mode for XP.
I've yet to hit a program that won't run natively under vista or one of the compatability profiles, and I play Transport Tycoon Deluxe, Tides of War and Port Royale ;-)
If it runs on XP it'll virtually always run on vista.
Just right click the exe, properties: then run it in compatability mode for XP.
I've yet to hit a program that won't run natively under vista or one of the compatability profiles, and I play Transport Tycoon Deluxe, Tides of War and Port Royale ;-)
I agree, going from XP > Vista was far easier than the 98 > XP switch. I even found games that wouldn't run in XP decided to run in Vista.
If it runs on XP it'll virtually always run on vista.
Just right click the exe, properties: then run it in compatability mode for XP.
I've yet to hit a program that won't run natively under vista or one of the compatability profiles, and I play Transport Tycoon Deluxe, Tides of War and Port Royale ;-)
ithanks forthe infor but my games are running fine that are on the HD with XP on
I agree, going from XP > Vista was far easier than the 98 > XP switch. I even found games that wouldn't run in XP decided to run in Vista.
ya i have to agress with ya there but still wanting daul OS jsut incase they wont run on Vista :)
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