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coiler
15-01-09, 11:54
Verdict on windows 7? XP beater? Better game performance?


http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?newsid=109418

jonwoad
15-01-09, 11:57
Could be... if they get the compatibilty and reliabilty sorted 100% for release

Monkey
15-01-09, 12:21
How can something such as an OS be 100% compatable out of the box, its never gonna happen

And Vista has already killed XP in my eyes, sure XP is still good, but vista improves on everything in XP

jonwoad
15-01-09, 12:22
Vista - 7 - XP (worse to best) IMO

nft99
15-01-09, 12:30
How can something such as an OS be 100% compatable out of the box, its never gonna happen

And Vista has already killed XP in my eyes, sure XP is still good, but vista improves on everything in XP

a few examples please !

If Vista "killed" xp why did mico$oft extend the shelf life of xp?

the release of netbook machines has shifted a good few copies of xp.

Vista = Windows ME

jonwoad
15-01-09, 12:33
Theres a game I play... works fine on XP wont run at all on Vista- this is the one reason I refused to get rid of XP completely.

tystar
15-01-09, 12:40
Vista - 7 - XP (worse to best) IMO

Not tried Windows 7 yet so cant comment.
Vista works and p's over xp imho
nothing i cant do in vista that i could in xp and can do more in vista than i could in xp.

dont understand peoples issues at all. I've not had 1 issue with vista in 12months and i'm running it on a laptop.

I still point to the fact that people were hesitant to goto xp when it first came out and that some people still havnt gone to xp because it was supposed to be garbabge. People's issues are more to do with reluctance to change rather than anything else. and if something doesnt work for you doesnt mean its rubbish and everyone else should stay away from it. it just means wasnt for you but might be perfect for someone else.

OK rant over.

jonwoad
15-01-09, 12:43
I got vista on day one of retail release :P

Monkey
15-01-09, 12:45
I still point to the fact that people were hesitant to goto xp when it first came out and that some people still havnt gone to xp because it was supposed to be garbabge. People's issues are more to do with reluctance to change rather than anything else. and if something doesnt work for you doesnt mean its rubbish and everyone else should stay away from it. it just means wasnt for you but might be perfect for someone else.

OK rant over.
I agree with you, for years people hated XP, now everyone wants to keep it.

jonwoad
15-01-09, 12:47
I went to XP on day on of release too... and 95... not sure about 98 though.

nft99
15-01-09, 12:50
I went to XP on day on of release too... and 95... not sure about 98 though.

someone is easily pleased :D :thumbsup:

jonwoad
15-01-09, 12:51
But about a week after I installed Vista, XP was back on my machine.

tystar
15-01-09, 12:55
But about a week after I installed Vista, XP was back on my machine.

A WEEK!!!!! hardly time to try and get used to something u not think....

but if u have a perticular prgramme/game that u must use that was programmed for 98/xp then fine valid reason for not persevering with vista.

jonwoad
15-01-09, 12:59
It was slow, driver support wasnt there, and didnt work with half the stuff I wanted to run :P

nft99
15-01-09, 13:25
It was slow, driver support wasnt there, and didnt work with half the stuff I wanted to run :P

standard microsoft support then :D

jonwoad
15-01-09, 13:40
Yup

coiler
15-01-09, 14:10
I may try and install windows 7 on my old 13gb external HDD to try it out :)

Aaron
15-01-09, 14:11
Its not killing XP for me.. Or Vista for that matter - I've not had any real problems with Vista, but then I don't really ever buy a 1st generation of anything for that reason. Let the early adopters get all the bugs worked out, and then go for the 2nd generation/release with a service pack. Its been absolutely fine on both my laptop and my main PC, and very rarely crashes.

The main reason Win7 isn't killing XP or Vista yet, is that I still cant get the thing installed! :( I had a pre release Beta which someone gave me which I was running through a Virtual Machine in vista, but thats not really a good test.. Downloaded another official Beta last night tho, so will try installing that later on today and see what happens! :)

Aaron
15-01-09, 14:13
I may try and install windows 7 on my old 13gb external HDD to try it out :)
Hmm.. That'll be an interesting test.. :lol:


Minimum recommended specs call for:


1 GHz 32-bit or 64-bit processor
1 GB of system memory
16 GB of available disk space
Support for DirectX 9 graphics with 128 MB memory (to enable the Aero theme)
DVD-R/W Drive
Internet access (to download the Beta and get updates)

jonwoad
15-01-09, 14:16
I created 30gig partition, it has 17 left

Aaron
15-01-09, 14:27
Yeah, I was genuinely meaning it'll be an interesting test - wasnt sarcastic! :lol:

jonwoad
15-01-09, 14:32
Just advising :P

Aaron
15-01-09, 14:33
Well, I'm sure i'll find out for myself if I ever get mine installed... :lol: ;)

jonwoad
15-01-09, 14:36
Cant understand why people are having problems with the same file I downloaded...

coiler
15-01-09, 14:40
a workmate got his installed in 10gig LOL :lol:

jonwoad
15-01-09, 14:42
Who's that then?

Col
15-01-09, 18:02
My only gripe with Vista is that Red Faction, Theme Hospital, and a few older games in the Valve Complete Pack such as Half Life and Counter Strike don't work. That's all.

From best to worst:
7 possibly > Vista > XP

I've got the beta release of 7 but a lot of the differences I've already reverted ack to Vista. Like, I can't stand the new taskbar. I like to be able to see the names of the programs, rather than just the icon. Vista didn't resemble a MAc as much as people claimed IMO from my limited experience of Macs, but 7 has a very strong resemblance if you ask me, especially with the new taskbar.

Aaron
15-01-09, 18:34
Cant understand why people are having problems with the same file I downloaded...
I'd imagine its located on quite a few different servers, all serving the same files.. I guess if one has a corrupt copy, it would only affect a small percentage of users, but would still cause problems..

marsey99
15-01-09, 19:28
what gets me is that it would of been vista sp2 if it wasnt for all the bad press vista has gotten.

Monkey
15-01-09, 20:23
I created 30gig partition, it has 17 left
I hope you ran disk clean afterwards... cleaned up loads on mine when you delete all the after installation ****

nft99
16-01-09, 08:48
My only gripe with Vista is that Red Faction, Theme Hospital, and a few older games in the Valve Complete Pack such as Half Life and Counter Strike don't work. That's all.

From best to worst:
7 possibly > Vista > XP

I've got the beta release of 7 but a lot of the differences I've already reverted ack to Vista. Like, I can't stand the new taskbar. I like to be able to see the names of the programs, rather than just the icon. Vista didn't resemble a MAc as much as people claimed IMO from my limited experience of Macs, but 7 has a very strong resemblance if you ask me, especially with the new taskbar.

What a great game that was :D

jonwoad
16-01-09, 08:49
Still is :)

coiler
16-01-09, 09:05
what gets me is that it would of been vista sp2 if it wasnt for all the bad press vista has gotten.

Could it have been since it looks so completely different though?

tystar
16-01-09, 09:17
Could it have been since it looks so completely different though?


Does it though??

Windows 7
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0c/Windows_7_build_7000.png


Vista
http://technology.berkeley.edu/msvista/images/800px-Windows_Vista_Desktop.png

coiler
16-01-09, 09:20
If its so similiar whats even the point in it! LOL

Vista had the *groundbreaking* aero, what does 7 have to make me part with £70 ?

for example win 98 to XP was like night and day.

jonwoad
16-01-09, 09:22
Have you tried it yet?

coiler
16-01-09, 09:23
no lol

jonwoad
16-01-09, 09:25
Try it for yourself... I'm sure it'll convince you :)

coiler
16-01-09, 09:42
Try it for yourself... I'm sure it'll convince you :)

Its that good?! :thumbsup::thumbsdn:

jonwoad
16-01-09, 09:44
I like it so far

wonderlust
16-01-09, 09:52
I have found that W7's media centre likes my 3010ix TV card a lot more than Vista's does.

It finds all the channels in one go (takes 3 or four goes with Vista and the PC in different places I know its wierd).

and I believe that I can also use the analouge side of the card (not that I have worked out how yet!)

Aaron
16-01-09, 10:16
I think its quite likely it would have been SP2.. Especially as when I ran CPU-Z and Everest on the pre public beta version someone gave me, it told me it was Windows Vista Ultimate..

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w19/adunne_2007/47db5d80.jpg

wonderlust
16-01-09, 10:31
but that could be due to M$ using V6.1 instead of V7

Aaron
16-01-09, 11:05
Yeah true.. What does it say when you run something like cpu-z on the latest release?

wonderlust
16-01-09, 13:25
I only had v1.45 so i grabbed v1.49 and it also shows Vista (6.1) ultimate Edition (build 7000)

wonderlust
16-01-09, 13:27
Just checked an old build of Everest (v4.00.976) also shows as Vista :D

jonwoad
16-01-09, 13:33
Maybe that'll be changed in the release version

wonderlust
16-01-09, 13:34
M$ have made it clear that it will be version 6.1.

the problem, I guess, is that the software is checking the Version number and if V6.x reports it as Vista

jonwoad
16-01-09, 13:39
Maybe CPU-z programmers will fix that

Monkey
16-01-09, 13:40
I think it should be a service pack myself, not enough improvements to call it a new release and have to fork out a load more money

That said, i do think its very nice and works quite well so far

obviously in future windows 7 drivers will come out too, although the vista ones work anyway

Aaron
16-01-09, 13:48
I agree with that - I think M$ should at least offer some sort of discount at least to users who can provide a valid Vista serial number and proof of purchase..

wonderlust
16-01-09, 15:22
I agree but lets be honest it ain't ever gona happen :(

Monkey
16-01-09, 15:25
Its true,

Why would they charge people nothing when they can tell idiots its a whole new OS from the ground up