View Full Version : Any unix users here?
We have a lot of Linux threads, so I thought I'd start a unix one.
Are there many unix users / admins here and if so what OSs do you use? (OS X doesn't count)
Day to day, I use FreeBSD and Solaris, though I've had some exposure in other unixes (mostly Solaris forks though).
(I know UNIX isn't always open source, but this seems the most appropriate forum)
GSVRasputin
27-10-11, 14:45
Does the i series count?.................. No thought not :(
Messed about with open Solaris and use FreeBSD as a host for running JunOS in a VM. But I don't think that's what you're looking for.
Not recently. Have used Solaris and FreeBSD/NetBSD a bit in the past. Used original BSD at uni.
Solaris Admin for 12 years, been about a year since I messed about with it now that I work in storage.
@GSV, i Series? What do you mean by that? who's the manufacturer ? ;)
Does the i series count?.................. No thought not :(
Messed about with open Solaris and use FreeBSD as a host for running JunOS in a VM. But I don't think that's what you're looking for.
Yeah, it all counts :)
I do prefer FreeBSD and Solaris to Linux in many ways <3 (not that I'm saying there's anything wrong with Linux)
GSVRasputin
27-10-11, 20:20
Solaris Admin for 12 years, been about a year since I messed about with it now that I work in storage.
@GSV, i Series? What do you mean by that? who's the manufacturer ? ;)
Was the AS400 by IBM but they updated it to the I series
Ahhh, different I series - that's a relief :D
GSVRasputin
27-10-11, 20:31
What I series did you think I meant?
nvm, speciality storage hardware :)
Lorem-Ipsum
30-10-11, 16:50
Used freebsd for a while but I'm too used to Linux.
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Used freebsd for a while but I'm too used to Linux.
Just out of curiosity, what differed in FreeBSD to what you were used to in Linux?
I've always found FreeBSD to be the most "linux-like" of all the unixes, but then I've always used BSD-esk Linux distro's so the differences would seem less prominent. So I'm interested to hear how you felt :)
Lorem-Ipsum
31-10-11, 18:21
It was a while ago I must admit, and it was mainly the idea that Linux had various Distros and I could choose one that I liked. A friend told me about PC-BSD, I hated KDE and so decided to stick with Linux.
I have looked at it from time to time and used FreeNAS for a while but never looked at it in depth as I didn't see any real advantages to linux.
Might have to give it a proper shot. Never really understood "slices" vs "partitions" though, are they just the same thing with a different name, are they compatible etc....?
I did actually have a shot at opensolaris, did something I didn't really understand, got a kernel panic and decided it wasn't for me XD
It was a while ago I must admit, and it was mainly the idea that Linux had various Distros and I could choose one that I liked. A friend told me about PC-BSD, I hated KDE and so decided to stick with Linux.
I have looked at it from time to time and used FreeNAS for a while but never looked at it in depth as I didn't see any real advantages to linux.
I see. Interesting. :)
While on the topic of KDE, I have to say I love it. But as you said yourself, that's the beauty of open source - you have the freedom to pick and choose what you like.
Might have to give it a proper shot. Never really understood "slices" vs "partitions" though, are they just the same thing with a different name, are they compatible etc....?
I'm not really sure myself. I think the idea of partitioning stems from DOS where as slices is another way of dividing up raw disk. But I really don't know.
I tend not to use slices - even in unix.
I did actually have a shot at opensolaris, did something I didn't really understand, got a kernel panic and decided it wasn't for me XD
I can sympathise with that. I'm not a huge fan of Open Solaris despite loving pure Solaris.
Lorem-Ipsum
31-10-11, 23:24
I see. Interesting. :)
While on the topic of KDE, I have to say I love it. But as you said yourself, that's the beauty of open source - you have the freedom to pick and choose what you like.
Big minimalist openbox fan here XD.
I'm not really sure myself. I think the idea of partitioning stems from DOS where as slices is another way of dividing up raw disk. But I really don't know.
I tend not to use slices - even in unix.
Interesting. I'll have to look into it.
I can sympathise with that. I'm not a huge fan of Open Solaris despite loving pure Solaris.
I simply assumed that opensolaris was to solaris as openSuse was to Suse. Didn't know how different they are.
I really forgot my main reason for sticking with Linux. I am now very embedded as an arch user and really like the Bleeding edge packages whereas FreeBSD seems more tried and tested stable.
Would you say FreeBSD was worth a shot?
Big minimalist openbox fan here XD.
Ahh good man! For a moment there I thought you were another GNOME user.
I do love my more minimalist WM/DE too (I still run Awesome on one of my servers that sadly needed an X11 app).
The only DE I cannot get along with is ironically the most popular one - but each to their own on that.
Interesting. I'll have to look into it.
Please let me know what you find out :)
I simply assumed that opensolaris was to solaris as openSuse was to Suse. Didn't know how different they are.
I think that was the plan, but OpenSolaris just felt sluggish and quite bloated for what it was compared to pure Solaris. I don't know if it's just me reading too much into things or if Sun/Oracle had hacked away at the core libraries, but it really didn't seem to behave quite as beautifully as pure Solaris.
I really forgot my main reason for sticking with Linux. I am now very embedded as an arch user and really like the Bleeding edge packages whereas FreeBSD seems more tried and tested stable.
Would you say FreeBSD was worth a shot?
Funny enough, one the things that drew me to ArchLinux was that it felt very much like FreeBSD (rc.conf instead of init.d directories, great documentation, sane file-system layouts and, to a lesser degree, yaourt behaves a little like FreeBSD's ports).
The problem these days is that Linux gets all the funding and development time. So don't expect bleeding edge packages or even the same array of software available (is it just me, or is Arch (pacman + AUR) have one of the biggest repositories of software of all the distros?). However what FreeBSD does have is ZFS (this is where my ZFS-fanboyisum steps in again hah!)- so in my opinion it's worth throwing FreeBSD (or FreeNAS) onto a home server just for that.
For desktop use, I wouldn't recommend FreeBSD (nor derivatives) unless you're a BSD/UNIX enthusiast hehe. It's not that you can't do most of the same stuff in FreeBSD that you can in Arch, it's just Arch is better suited for the desktop than FBSD currently is.
Lorem-Ipsum
01-11-11, 00:35
Ahh good man! For a moment there I thought you were another GNOME user.
I do love my more minimalist WM/DE too (I still run Awesome on one of my servers that sadly needed an X11 app).
The only DE I cannot get along with is ironically the most popular one - but each to their own on that.
I used gnome until Gnome Shell started looming up and then moved away. Always hated the way gconf works though.
Please let me know what you find out :)
Will do.
Funny enough, one the things that drew me to ArchLinux was that it felt very much like FreeBSD (rc.conf instead of init.d directories, great documentation, sane file-system layouts and, to a lesser degree, yaourt behaves a little like FreeBSD's ports).
The problem these days is that Linux gets all the funding and development time. So don't expect bleeding edge packages or even the same array of software available (is it just me, or is Arch (pacman + AUR) have one of the biggest repositories of software of all the distros?).
I do like the rc.conf in archlinux and very much like the large amount of packages with the AUR, they quite possibly do have the largest range of software. The wiki-style documentation is amazing but I do find myself having to correct spelling/grammar errors on almost every page I read XD. Seems much more sensible that a lot of other distros in a lot of their system decisions though.
However what FreeBSD does have is ZFS (this is where my ZFS-fanboyisum steps in again hah!)- so in my opinion it's worth throwing FreeBSD (or FreeNAS) onto a home server just for that.
For desktop use, I wouldn't recommend FreeBSD (nor derivatives) unless you're a BSD/UNIX enthusiast hehe. It's not that you can't do most of the same stuff in FreeBSD that you can in Arch, it's just Arch is better suited for the desktop than FBSD currently is.
OK, I'll stick with arch for the time being but I'll certainly have a shot at FreeBSD when I get round to building my new file server.
Gave it a shot in a VM just now but I can't get virtualbox to play nicely with FreeBSD's networking. :(
Anyways, I have an early start in the morning so best call it a night. Might give it a shot at Uni in the morning if I have some time.
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