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matdcar
13-09-06, 20:16
Hi,

I want to get a new system and I was wondering if any of you budding tech guru's could give me a hand deciding what hardware works best.

I have a monitor, keyboard, speakers etc.

Looked at the below so far, comments welcome :shock: , thanks

AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600 Retail AM2
£135.99

ASUS M2N32-SLI DLX nF590 Socket AM2
£105.45

Akasa Silent Paxpower Fan 12cm £6.95 £6.95

Coolermaster Wavemaster Black £72.50 £72.50

OCZ 1GB kit EL DDR2 PC2-6400 / 800
£81.95

300GB Maxtor D/Max +10 SATA2 [16MB]
6V300F0
£57.95

MSI GeForce 7600GT 256MB PCI-E
128bit Dual DVI, TV-Out, VIVO Mfr# NX7600GT-VT2D256E-HD
£119.95

Sony DW-G120ABC 16x DVDRW Black
£23.95

3½\" Black Floppy Drive £3.65

Logitech MX518 Optical Gaming Mouse
£27.15

Subtotal :
VAT : £703.49
£123.12 Total : £826.61 inc VAT

kristoficus
13-09-06, 22:42
ood piece of kit :) I just wouldnt use Maxtor though. Go with Western Digital or Seagate etc.

t31os
14-09-06, 00:04
I'd go with this for the win!!

Intel Conroe Core 2 Duo E6300 RET 2x 1.86 2Mb 1066 MHz LGA775 BX805576300 £112.95 £112.95
Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 Socket 775 CORE 2 DUO READY! / PCI-E / VISTA READY / DDR2 / SATA RAID / ATX MOTHERBOARD £83.50 £83.50
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 PRO Skt 775 / Up to Pentium4 4.4Ghz £12.95 £12.95
POV Nvidia 7900GTX-512Mb PCI-E £249.00 £249.00
OCZ 2GB kit EL DDR2 PC2-6400 / 800 Gold Gamer eXtreme / XTC Edition / Life time warranty OCZ2G8002GK 2x1GB £160.95 £160.95
Seasonic 600w S12 Power Supply SLi / 4x SATA / 120mm Silent Cooling / Dr. Cable / 2x 12v Rails :. £77.50 £77.50
Silverstone TJ05-Silver £74.00 £74.00
NEC ND-4570 16x DL DVDRW Silver £19.85 £19.85
320GB Seagate 7200.10 SATA 2 ST3320620AS £59.95 £59.95

Subtotal : £850.65
VAT : £148.87
Total : £999.52 inc VAT

Ok the graphics card is out of stock, and no floppy drive, but unless you got something you use now that requires a floppy that you intend to use on the new one, you wont need it.

Delivery is £12.00

Grand total = £1011.52

Would be a real awesome system though......

t31os
14-09-06, 00:30
Looking back you'd proberly better with some Corsair memory, theres been a few compatability issues with other memory such as OCZ and GSkill, but corsair has been thumbs up.

Belso
14-09-06, 09:09
[quote:7319bc55ac=\"t31os\"]$nip[/quote:7319bc55ac]

WoW nice system build there dude.

Would defiently recommend his sytem over the one you spec'd up mate.

m0nk3y
14-09-06, 11:43
Core 2 Duo will deffo out perform AM2 in all aspects, and t31os is right about Corsair bing the \"least of a headache\".

Im my humble opinion though, with some tastey new conroe supporting chipsets around the corner from nVidia with SLi support, I would save a few more hundered and go for a sexy conroe SLi system... Im hearing good things about pairing two cheap *** 7900GS together :twisted:

Aaron
14-09-06, 14:12
ive just bought an E6400, with some corsair XMS2 mem.. And actually, its literally just arrived. I'm gonna go sign for it, and then i'll let you know if it all works together a bit later on tonight when ive finished playing! :D

I also bought the freezer 7 pro cooler mentioned earlier - its an absolute beast of a fan - completely dwarfs the retail intel one!

dazalock
14-09-06, 16:04
[quote:74318023ca=\"kristoficus\"]ood piece of kit :) I just wouldnt use Maxtor though. Go with Western Digital or Seagate etc.[/quote:74318023ca]

Maxtor IS Seagate, Seagate bought them out, and personally I prefer Maxtor to any other HDD, espcially the great tools to diagnose a rare fault.

If I was spending the money, I wouldnt use anything but Kingston memory

Firerat
14-09-06, 16:30
I don't understand why people are slating Maxtor off either

I have had very few problems with Maxtors myself


And I used to send Faulty Products back to Supplier/Manufacture for a living ;)

Belso
14-09-06, 16:30
[quote:ca014f1b4e=\"dazalock\"][quote:ca014f1b4e=\"kristoficus\"]ood piece of kit :) I just wouldnt use Maxtor though. Go with Western Digital or Seagate etc.[/quote:ca014f1b4e]

Maxtor IS Seagate, Seagate bought them out, and personally I prefer Maxtor to any other HDD, espcially the great tools to diagnose a rare fault.

If I was spending the money, I wouldnt use anything but Kingston memory[/quote:ca014f1b4e]

Seagate have purchased Maxtor you are correct. But Maxtor drives at the moment are still Maxtor's. And there still as dodgy as they have ever been.

Kingston memory is crap.

t31os
14-09-06, 16:41
Agreed, i've been working with pc's for a few years, and my mothers other half worked in the trade for years building PC's and doesnt suggest Kingston, me personally never had a problem, but rarely used it so not fair to make any assessment.

Corsair though, been faultless..... havnt found any incompatability issues with it yet.

Maxtor, yep i can echo that they have never been reliable for me and a handful of people that i know have used them, but thats not to say other brands dont have the same problem, its just been more apparent with maxtor drives lately, and word spreads quick on the web.

Seagate's 7200.10 drives are performing not far off raptor's at the moment, and don't have that \"failure rate\" tag maxtor seem to off picked up.

The system i specced wont need anything more then the card i specced unless he's gaming at 1600 x 1200 or over.

With directx10 around the corner, anything more is severely wasted unless you game at huge resolutions.

Aaron
14-09-06, 21:31
ok, i said id report back :)

I got the E6400, with a cheapo Asrock board and got Corsair XMS2 5400 ddr 2 memory. Its worked perfectly without a hitch.

The cpu is currently running at 2.4ghz and nothing is even breaking a sweat... least of all the temps! If you can go corsair, get it - you wont regret it :)

Ive never had a problem with maxtors either - maybe i'm just lucky? ;)

mac124
14-09-06, 23:53
[quote:31d9ebc295=\"Aaron\"]
Ive never had a problem with maxtors either - maybe i'm just lucky? ;)[/quote:31d9ebc295]

Me neither mate, i must be lucky too. :shock:

Belso
15-09-06, 08:55
Ill see if i can get my digital camera working later, and ill take a pic of the dead maxtor's in the office :wink:

matdcar
15-09-06, 10:50
Thanks a lot everybody for your views, I was scared to go away from AMD as I have been using them for years but you have twisted my arm and I have gone for pretty much what you advised, including the corsair memory.
Got aria to do the build cos im feeling lazy and they make all the wires pretty hope it does not take too long.

thanks again, also stupid quick question I currently have old system running ide drive can i just plug it in and move the files i have to my new sata, obviously not programs and operating system.

Cheers
Matt

Belso
15-09-06, 10:53
If the board has a IDE slot then yes.

But you will need to set the IDE drive up as a slave.

If not then buy a Ice Box for £20 or so.... which are a USB enclosure for IDE hard drives, very useful indeed :wink:

Firerat
15-09-06, 11:05
[quote:be7c43a6ea=\"matdcar\"]quick question I currently have old system running ide drive can i just plug it in and move the files i have to my new sata, obviously not programs and operating system.

Cheers
Matt[/quote:be7c43a6ea]


[quote:be7c43a6ea=\"Belso\"]If the board has a IDE slot then yes.

But you will need to set the IDE drive up as a slave.

If not then buy a Ice Box for £20 or so.... which are a USB enclosure for IDE hard drives, very useful indeed :wink:[/quote:be7c43a6ea]


Yeap very handy

but it might be fun to set up a network and 'share' the files across

You could then use you old PC in another room and share mp3's etc

t31os
15-09-06, 13:14
[quote:de004b5e6b=\"Belso\"]If the board has a IDE slot then yes.

But you will need to set the IDE drive up as a slave.

If not then buy a Ice Box for £20 or so.... which are a USB enclosure for IDE hard drives, very useful indeed :wink:[/quote:de004b5e6b]

What?!?

It doesnt need to be setup as a slave, unless he's sharing the IDE cable with a CD/DVD drive.

Setting it up externally just to grab a few files is a waste of time, plug the drive in temporarily and grab the files you need, then put it away to gather dust, its gonna be pointless keeping it unless its gotta some big storage space.

Belso
15-09-06, 13:26
[quote:d2a80c7278=\"t31os\"]

What?!?

It doesnt need to be setup as a slave, unless he's sharing the IDE cable with a CD/DVD drive.

Setting it up externally just to grab a few files is a waste of time, plug the drive in temporarily and grab the files you need, then put it away to gather dust, its gonna be pointless keeping it unless its gotta some big storage space.[/quote:d2a80c7278]

My mistake.........


Setting it up externally will always give him the option to be able to back up his data.

Instead of 6 days down the line, my Maxtor died ( 6th time in 6 days) can i get my data back?

:P

Especially if its a Maxtor.

t31os
15-09-06, 13:45
Its not likely to be a huge drive, say what 200gb max, connect it up, you're looking at no longer then having it on an hour to copy the files. Then you can just chuck it away.

If your data is really that important, backup or use a Raid 1 array.

Firerat
15-09-06, 14:22
[quote:505aa4eb40=\"t31os\"]Its not likely to be a huge drive, say what 200gb max, connect it up, you're looking at no longer then having it on an hour to copy the files. Then you can just chuck it away.

If your data is really that important, backup or use a Raid 1 array.[/quote:505aa4eb40]

Raid will only proctect you from a Hardware failure, backup and use Raid :P

Belso
15-09-06, 14:24
[quote:61434f2bde=\"Firerat\"][quote:61434f2bde=\"t31os\"]Its not likely to be a huge drive, say what 200gb max, connect it up, you're looking at no longer then having it on an hour to copy the files. Then you can just chuck it away.

If your data is really that important, backup or use a Raid 1 array.[/quote:61434f2bde]

Raid will only proctect you from a Hardware failure, backup and use Raid :P[/quote:61434f2bde]

And if you get burgled? :P

Firerat
15-09-06, 14:55
[quote:e0e76a420d=\"Belso\"][quote:e0e76a420d=\"Firerat\"][quote:e0e76a420d=\"t31os\"]Its not likely to be a huge drive, say what 200gb max, connect it up, you're looking at no longer then having it on an hour to copy the files. Then you can just chuck it away.

If your data is really that important, backup or use a Raid 1 array.[/quote:e0e76a420d]

Raid will only proctect you from a Hardware failure, backup and use Raid :P[/quote:e0e76a420d]

And if you get burgled? :P[/quote:e0e76a420d]

I like this one

“Backups are for wimps. Real men upload their data to an FTP site and have everyone else mirror it.” - Linus Torvalds

t31os
16-09-06, 19:27
[quote:544f7fabce=\"Firerat\"][quote:544f7fabce=\"Belso\"][quote:544f7fabce=\"Firerat\"][quote:544f7fabce=\"t31os\"]Its not likely to be a huge drive, say what 200gb max, connect it up, you're looking at no longer then having it on an hour to copy the files. Then you can just chuck it away.

If your data is really that important, backup or use a Raid 1 array.[/quote:544f7fabce]

Raid will only proctect you from a Hardware failure, backup and use Raid :P[/quote:544f7fabce]

And if you get burgled? :P[/quote:544f7fabce]

I like this one

“Backups are for wimps. Real men upload their data to an FTP site and have everyone else mirror it.” - Linus Torvalds[/quote:544f7fabce]

lol...

Firerat
18-09-06, 10:31
[quote:b12f1f7721=\"t31os\"][quote:b12f1f7721=\"Firerat\"][quote:b12f1f7721=\"Belso\"][quote:b12f1f7721=\"Firerat\"][quote:b12f1f7721=\"t31os\"]Its not likely to be a huge drive, say what 200gb max, connect it up, you're looking at no longer then having it on an hour to copy the files. Then you can just chuck it away.

If your data is really that important, backup or use a Raid 1 array.[/quote:b12f1f7721]

Raid will only proctect you from a Hardware failure, backup and use Raid :P[/quote:b12f1f7721]

And if you get burgled? :P[/quote:b12f1f7721]

I like this one

“Backups are for wimps. Real men upload their data to an FTP site and have everyone else mirror it.” - Linus Torvalds[/quote:b12f1f7721]

lol...[/quote:b12f1f7721]

:(

I have had some hardware issues which forced me to upgrade.

While Migrating my RAID5 ( 5 x 200gb Maxtors ) I have managed to mess up the file system ( resier3.6 ) , I think I issued the wrong LILO command which messed up the partitions, the raid works , but I can't mount it :( the Superblock is corrupt :( the data is on the Hard Drive is I can see Plain Text files if I cat /dev/md2

So, yeah RAID is great if a single drive fails, but if you manage to corrupt the file system Backups Rule!!

Anyway I have a plan , there is a Windows Utility which can recover Files from a corrupt Resier3.6 Filesystem.
So, I'm going to buy 5 x 400GB Drives, RAID them up. Migrate a Working Linux to it , Install XP on VMware and recover what I can.

I have to use VmWare as Windows will not be able to see the Software RAID

I'm going to have a fun week :)

t31os
18-09-06, 13:55
[quote:0b62c9596e=\"Firerat\"][quote:0b62c9596e=\"t31os\"][quote:0b62c9596e=\"Firerat\"][quote:0b62c9596e=\"Belso\"][quote:0b62c9596e=\"Firerat\"][quote:0b62c9596e=\"t31os\"]Its not likely to be a huge drive, say what 200gb max, connect it up, you're looking at no longer then having it on an hour to copy the files. Then you can just chuck it away.

If your data is really that important, backup or use a Raid 1 array.[/quote:0b62c9596e]

Raid will only proctect you from a Hardware failure, backup and use Raid :P[/quote:0b62c9596e]

And if you get burgled? :P[/quote:0b62c9596e]

I like this one

“Backups are for wimps. Real men upload their data to an FTP site and have everyone else mirror it.” - Linus Torvalds[/quote:0b62c9596e]

lol...[/quote:0b62c9596e]

:(

I have had some hardware issues which forced me to upgrade.

While Migrating my RAID5 ( 5 x 200gb Maxtors ) I have managed to mess up the file system ( resier3.6 ) , I think I issued the wrong LILO command which messed up the partitions, the raid works , but I can't mount it :( the Superblock is corrupt :( the data is on the Hard Drive is I can see Plain Text files if I cat /dev/md2

So, yeah RAID is great if a single drive fails, but if you manage to corrupt the file system Backups Rule!!

Anyway I have a plan , there is a Windows Utility which can recover Files from a corrupt Resier3.6 Filesystem.
So, I'm going to buy 5 x 400GB Drives, RAID them up. Migrate a Working Linux to it , Install XP on VMware and recover what I can.

I have to use VmWare as Windows will not be able to see the Software RAID

I'm going to have a fun week :)[/quote:0b62c9596e]

Sounds like a right chore.... rather you then me mate. ;)