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this is what im ordering now 29th september :D
yes budget has been raised from £500 to £1000, well flippijng doubled!!
http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/1647/untitledyi4.jpg
1 question though, is this worth its money? will this last me well untill dx10 cards come out and a new processor worthy of competing against this one comes out?
£1000 is the price but might go to £1100 if my overtime money differs.
Many benchmarks say that the 7950 doesnt work that well with DX9, and that means that its likely future proof for DX10.
[quote:7203f30c76=\"blaineoliver\"]Many benchmarks say that the 7950 doesnt work that well with DX9, and that means that its likely future proof for DX10.[/quote:7203f30c76]
it dosent work well with dx9? its meant to be one of the best cards around at the moment?
what version would it use then? i wouldnt think dx8?
just a thought.
since when did an Intel chip fit in a socket AM2?
Yeah that mobo and cpu aren't compatible matey :oops:
what!!??
someone told me it was!?
whats a good motherboard for the conroe then?
How about the one i recommended you in the other thread :wink:
http://www.aria.co.uk/ProductInfoComm.asp?ID=23805 (mobo £129 inc vat)
does that motherboard support IDE?
and is it possible to get a motherboard for a conroe and have agp slot and pci express slot?
Abit AB9 Pro is a good conroe board ;)
http://www.aria.co.uk/ProductInfoComm.asp?ID=23723
You sure about that case ? gigabyte 3d aurora is excellent choice :D
http://www.aria.co.uk/ProductInfoComm.asp?ID=21600
ooh that case does look nice mate! :) thanks
about the motherboard though
i need a motherboard which supports IDE :(
Seriously dude Owch!
Can imagine you trying to fit that Conroe chip in a AM2 board.
Lucky you did decide to boast eh? :P
Not sure about this, but cant you just buy a IDE Card?
http://www.aria.co.uk/ProductInfoComm.asp?ID=20137
i have that case :D
if your buying a 7950 (nice card) why do you need an agp slot as well :?
ah thats sweet man!
i dont have a single sata product at all!
will i have any problems with my windows hard drive booting through this card?
i cant wait now :D my comp better not lag on bf2 1280 x 1024 at high everything!
Im not sure.
But this board
http://www.aria.co.uk/ProductInfoComm.asp?ID=23723
Has an IDE slot. According to Aria.
So Hook your IDE harddrive to the Motherboard, and anything else to the card 8)
now that one looks perfect! :D
how much is the cheapest sata hard disk around here?
i was gona get a sata hard drive and use for windows etc
and plug my IDE hard drives into a spare system and use that as a storage comp whilst connected to a network
but would i need a sata cd drive aswell?
Cheapest Sata2 Drive 80GB
http://www.aria.co.uk/ProductInfoComm.asp?ID=21411
£2 more for a Seagate 80GB
http://www.aria.co.uk/ProductInfoComm.asp?ID=24403
Make the right choice
8)
[quote:15f3bd231e=\"DeCrYpT3R\"]does that motherboard support IDE?
and is it possible to get a motherboard for a conroe and have agp slot and pci express slot?[/quote:15f3bd231e]
Yes the board has an ide bus BUT it is probably designed to be used mainly for optical drives as most sytem builders are going the sata root for the boot device.
NOI matey but are you sure you are upto building this pc? I only ask as you have made 1 or 2 minor iffy choices specifically the wrong socket motherboard and the wrong cooler for the chip. Also it took me 30 seconds to find out what ide connectors are available on the motherboard, all the info was in the link i posted.
Dont forget though you could just buy a USB exclosure for your IDE drive.
http://www.aria.co.uk/ProductInfoComm.asp?ID=17983
[quote:0fcf5a3f67=\"DeCrYpT3R\"]ooh that case does look nice mate! :) thanks
about the motherboard though
i need a motherboard which supports IDE :([/quote:0fcf5a3f67]
IDE is on its way out,
Intel's Newer Chipsets Do not Support PATA (IDE) Drives, but do support Optical ATAPI Drives, CDRW, DVDRW etc
I'm not sure if any MainBoard Manufactures are including an Extra IDE Chipset.
SATA is the way forward, they are generally cheaper than IDE, and are faster and the cables are much neater.
If you realy need to stick to IDE you could go for a PCI Card
http://www.aria.co.uk/ProductsList.asp?Name=ide+controller
but that is going to tie up a PCI slot, which are in short supply on these new boards :(
However if you need lots of PCI Slots this board is an Option
Asus P5WDG2-WS i975X Socket 775 (http://www.aria.co.uk/ProductInfoComm.asp?ID=23803)
It has two PCI and two PCI-X
As far as I know the PCI-X will support PCI (3.3v) and PCI 2.1/2.2(3.3v/5.0v) but not PCI-2.3 (5.0v only)
another great idea belso!
yes mac, im new to sata thats all, im gona give aria a ring and tell what i want, case motherboard etc,
and ask them if they will set up the whole thing for me. e.g. install motherboard onto case, put chip on motherboard
ill pay extra for this but dont wana spend loads
No need for sata cd the AB9 has 1 ide connector so you can connect 2 devices (rom and rewriter)
http://www.abit.com.tw/page/uk/motherboard/motherboard_detail.php?pMODEL_NAME=AB9+Pro&fMTYPE=LGA775&pPRODINFO=Specifications
Sata hard drives expect to pay £50-£60 for 250gb, i shall open a can of worms and suggest maxtor drives :shock: not the most popular of drives on here and many other forums but i have used a few over the years and they all been great for me :D
The 7950 won't work on all motherboards at this time, so you need to check its compatible before buying, though no retailer is currently making customers aware of this.
Not sure which boards are posted in the other thread, but the DS3, P5B, P5WDH, DQ6 and the DS4 are amongst the most popular right now.
7950 is a waste of money with dx10 so near, and if you're seriously still wanting it, its gonna need a decent PSU. Its a waste unless you're gaming at 1600x1200 or above, you'd be better off getting a single card, ie. 7900gtx or x1900xtx.
Plenty of good cases around, sub £100, Silverstone, LianLi and Akasa make some very good quality cases.
[quote:4b229aecbb=\"DeCrYpT3R\"]and is it possible to get a motherboard for a conroe and have agp slot and pci express slot?[/quote:4b229aecbb]
This is the only 775 board I could find that supports AGP/PCI-X:
http://www.asrock.com/PRODUCT/775Dual-VSTA.htm
got ide & sata on there if you needed it. :)
Good call Aaron
Asrock 775DUAL-VSTA Socket 775 (http://www.aria.co.uk/ProductInfoComm.asp?ID=23695)
I got the 939/AM2 version of that mobo :)
WOW GUYS!
u have really helped out alot here
the reason i want a 7950 is because i want to run my games at about 1024 x 768 or 1280 x 1024 on battlefield 2 at ful high graphics and x4 AA without any graphics lag
my radeon 256mb x800 GTO can play medium graphics but only gets about 20-30 FPS on this and it lags a bit on high graphics and thats without AA, can anyone recommend a graphics card that is gona play everything on high graphics with AA and max reso of 1280 x 1024, most likely 1024 x 768 though
thanks alot guys! and im gona get a sata hard drive to go with the good board :)
sorry for all the questions but this is still alot of money
ALSO, if i did get the 7950 for £350+ would this still manage future games with DX10? but just without the extra feature dx10 brings? surely all dx9 cards wont be useless for dx10 games ?
The7950's are NOT DX10 compatible, DX10 graphics cards will be out sometime in the next 6-8 months but it should handle anything you can throw at it for a good while to come. If you really wanted DX10 soon after they came out you could consider something like the 1800xt (still a major boost over what you have now and still a very good card) and upgrade to a DX10 card when they appear sometime earlyish next year.
Also i personally wouldn't touch Asrock motherboards with a barge pole i have heard of too many people having problems with them.
Good call DeCrYpT3R 8) your paying a lot of £££ to build / have built a kick *** pc so don't scrimp a few pennies on going for a cheap motherboard. :wink:
yea :) my graphics card choose now will only last untill dx10 comes out
but i wana make sure my case, motherboard and cpu are gona last me a while longer :)
will that graphics card play battlefield 2 on full graphics and not lag? or its the 7900 GT better?
im experienced with ati tool now, but would have no idea how to overclock a nvidia card
thanks
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wtf? how is that?
shouldnt there be a nvidia alternative? :O
weird :?
Ist one of those things you dont moan at. Or try to understand.
It just does :lol:
[quote:36abc2440d=\"PrivatePyle\"]ati tool works with nvidia cards. end of post. :)[/quote:36abc2440d]
Its true it does, you couls also download and install coolbits and enable the overclocking in the nvidia control panel thingy.
lets just wait till i get the damn card alright? :D haha
1024x768 will run maxed out on a x1800xt, mines ran bf2 maxed at at 1280x960, though it won't do it with 1gb or ram, 2gb its perfect. Ran 1600x1200, though did get the occasional stutter on really hectic battles, so i opted for 1280x960 which gives no stuttering just some inital 5 second lag when i first join the game.
I've also setup an x800GTO 512mb on an ASROCK 939 board for a friend, and i tested BF2 unpatched (patched is more demanding) and it ran 1024x768 maxed out with 1gb of memory.
6600GT 128mb AGP in my bro's system (my old one) is currently running bf2 at medium-high settings with 1gb of memory also.
If you use decent hardware and disable services you don't need, defrag often, etc....... you won't need the top end card.
I'm an avid gamer so i'm always pushing for the most performance, and i'll tell you now, anything above an x1800 or 7900 is totally wasted at that resolution.
okay i think i'll opt for the x1800 or maybe the x1900 xt for other games that might need that little bit more boost :)
but thanks man :D i only have 1 GB **** ddr400 memory
but getting 2 x 1GB Corsair memory 6400 and that should be sweet!
cant wait to see battlefield 2 with 1024 x 768 and everything high + 4 X AA :D gona be wicked on my new 19\" tft
With a 1900xt you should be able to run it at 1280x1024 (native res of 19\" tft's) at max settings i would have thought.
but it still depends on what CPU and memory i have dosent it?
bcoz my x800 now runs low graphics due to my crappy 2.4ghz normal athlon and 1GB so when i get a conroe its gona be much better isnt it?
System memory could have alot to do with it thinking about it as BF2 is quite bad in that respect and does run better with 2gb of system memory, so yes you could well be better off at 1024 etc. though i would try it and see what works best for you.
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