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Kaka to Man City?
Adam to Liverpool?
Ashley Young to Man U?
Drogba to Real Madrid?
Scott Parker to Tottenham?
de Gea to Man United
Sanchez to Man City
Modric or Sneijder to Man United
I think Kaka will leave Madrid possibly to Chelsea
Adams to Liverpool
Scott Parker will leave, possibly to Liverpool
de gea to Utd
What I would like:
Modric to Utd
Sanchez to Utd
What will happen
Adam to Utd
Young to Utd
Sanchez to City.
I think Kaka will go to either City or Chelsea.
I also think Drogba and Lampard could well leave Chelsea depending on who comes in as manager.
Real Madrid have quite a few player who I think will leave, Lass Diarra, Canales (sp) maybe Benzema. I would expect a few to end up in England
The Ajax goalie Sticklback or whatever is name is to Man Utd.
Would like to see Modric/Sneijder at Utd as well but think it will be Young or Adam.
Couple more players to Man City.
Chelsea to move out a few the old first teamers when the new manager arrives.
Parker to Arsenal? Heard he has turned down Spurs 3 times in the past not sure if Redknapp will try again.
Harry Redknapp for a stint at chelsea before England manager?
Just thinking about the teams which went down, maybe Foster or Green to Arsenal as their not blessed with the greatest goal keepers.
Just thinking about the teams which went down, maybe Foster or Green to Arsenal as their not blessed with the greatest goal keepers.
I think moving to Arsenal would be a really bad move for Foster. He seems to play quite well when he's not in the spotlight and have critics watching his every move (at Man Utd and with England squad).
Considering that Arsenal are constantly criticised for not signing a top goalie, he would be under immense pressure once again.
I think moving to Arsenal would be a really bad move for Foster. He seems to play quite well when he's not in the spotlight and have critics watching his every move (at Man Utd and with England squad).
Considering that Arsenal are constantly criticised for not signing a top goalie, he would be under immense pressure once again.
Yeah, Utd did seem to much for him, some players are like that. I think that some keepers are better for smaller teams due to the fact that they are busier. When playing for UTD you can go ages without having to do too much so concentration is key
Hopefully Willo Flood back to Dundee United. :thumb:
niceguyrichy
23-05-11, 15:32
Adam to 'pool is nailed on isnt it
(still can't believe we pretty much gave him away :rolleyes: )
Kaka will go to Man City probably, unless Roman digs deep for another preposterous weekly wage...
Celtic will probably spend big again, and probably still get beaten by a team so lacking in first team players that we couldn't fill our subs bench some games this season :lol:
Can see the two big spenders tryingto buy their way forward with overpriced players and wages. City will try to lure Ronaldo to the drk side, Kaka may move in a big price move. Utdwill spend a bit this year. De Gea, Modric and Sanchez.
Can see Blackburn trying to buy their way to safety next season.
But hey if Utd had the money to throw around like Chelsea and City as a Ut fan I wouldnt complain...
Utd must have some to throw around those 3 wont be cheap :D
£16m for de gea
£35m + for sanchez
£30m + for modric
The Ronaldo money is there in part and the interest on 80million must be fairly good now the bond is paid lol.
Utd must have some to throw around those 3 wont be cheap :D
£16m for de gea
£35m + for sanchez
£30m + for modric
I will eat my hat if Utd spend that this transfer window without a major sale or two. That said I will also eat my hat if they fail to get a half decent stopper and center mid ;)
For Pool this summer I would like:
Hazard
Baines
Cahill
But think we will get
Adams
Downing
Enrique
Whilst I actually think Downing would complement Carroll, I struggle to see why we are continually linked with Adams (and to a lesser extent Parker). He has had a good season looking like a poor mans Alonso, but with Gerrard, Meireles, Lucas, Spearing, Aurelio & Shelvey all happy in the middle of the park, it is far from our weakest area.
You're meant to be getting Friedel.
That's ironic thanks emmit ;)
I would love for Man Utd to sign Neuer, great keeper and Fergie has admitted to being interested in signing him. Man Utd need a new 1st team keeper now than Van Der Sar is retiring :)
I would love for Man Utd to sign Neuer, great keeper and Fergie has admitted to being interested in signing him. Man Utd need a new 1st team keeper now than Van Der Sar is retiring :)
Should be confirmed after the CL final that its de Gea who's the replacement for van der Sar.
Heard a couple of good rumours regarding Chelsea
Take it with a pinch of salt, although my source was right about the Giggs thing before the S***Storm blew over
Pepe Guardiola has bought a house in London
Lukaku and Neymar are 99% done deals
Zola will take on a coaching role at Chelsea (This ones pretty big already tbf)
That's ironic thanks emmit ;)
It's been mentioned quite a few places he wants a pay day and is happy to sit on your bench, which is a bit sad. Can see him coming in as a player/coach role maybe
Looks like Young and Jones to United.
Henderson to Liverpool is almost a done deal as well.
Sunderland have had 12m bid accepted for O'Shea, Brown and Gibson.
Toonshorty
09-06-11, 13:55
Wonder if Ashley will give Alan any "Carroll Money" to play with?
We've already gone after Neil Taylor (Swansea).
Looks like we'll be loosing Barton and possibly Nolan though :mad:
Wonder if Ashley will give Alan any "Carroll Money" to play with?
We've already gone after Neil Taylor (Swansea).
Looks like we'll be loosing Barton and possibly Nolan though :mad:
Alan Smith has been told he can leave as well?
Why Nolan leaving ? Got about 15 goals from midfield last season!
Toonshorty
09-06-11, 14:01
Why Nolan leaving ? Got about 15 goals from midfield last season!
I've heard rumours.
The club refuse to give Barton a contract.
Not sure why, since he was absolutely smashing balls in from the wing last season.
Ashley will break everything, as per usual.
AaronWHUFC
12-06-11, 23:00
Ahh Nolan. I see Newcastle have rejected a "derisory" offer from West Ham. The thing is, this is typical of our owners. I can see where this is heading, we end up getting a player none of us have heard of and doesn't settle or a prem reject who doesn't perform.
We offered £1.5m for Nolan apparantely, is that some sort of joke? 4th highest goal scorer in the prem and all from Midfield, that's without taking into account his great captaining ability.
Just thought i'd state the obvious too...Phil Jones to United is almost done and Henderson to Liverpool is done.
Oh yeah, Sunderland bid £15m for O'shea, Gibson and Brown.
Ahh Nolan. I see Newcastle have rejected a "derisory" offer from West Ham. The thing is, this is typical of our owners. I can see where this is heading, we end up getting a player none of us have heard of and doesn't settle or a prem reject who doesn't perform.
We offered £1.5m for Nolan apparantely, is that some sort of joke? 4th highest goal scorer in the prem and all from Midfield, that's without taking into account his great captaining ability.
Just thought i'd state the obvious too...Phil Jones to United is almost done and Henderson to Liverpool is done.
Oh yeah, Sunderland bid £15m for O'shea, Gibson and Brown.
Oh please be true :clap:weeee
I've heard rumours.
The club refuse to give Barton a contract.
Not sure why, since he was absolutely smashing balls in from the wing last season.
Ashley will break everything, as per usual.
Probably because Barton is nuts. Even though he has had a peaceful year by his standards, he's bad press waiting to happen. As long as Ashley spends the Carroll money (lol) they should find decent replacements.
As Blues i would like and probable would have:
Neymar probable done
Would of also liked Ganso
we need some fleet footed wingers like Robben...
As Blues i would like and probable would have:
Neymar probable done
Would of also liked Ganso
we need some fleet footed wingers like Robben...
Chelsea could do with a playmaker, Ganso would have been perfect. Would be surprised to see Chelsea bid for Modric maybe. I suppose they would be best to sort out the manager first
Neymar looks class, money being talked about seems nuts for a player who has only got South American leagues and a few internationals under his belt.
Neymar looks class, money being talked about seems nuts for a player who has only got South American leagues and a few internationals under his belt.
I know, I saw £41 mil being quoted the other day, massive risk at that price, even though he does look brilliant
I know, I saw £41 mil being quoted the other day, massive risk at that price, even though he does look brilliant
:eek:
This transfer window it seems like £20 million is the price for slightly promising English youth like Henderson and Jones. Last season I am sure they would have been more like £10 million. If Neymar was tried and tested on the continent you would have imagined him to be £20 million last season, so doubling it would be par for the course. However currently he is a much bigger risk than that given his lack of experience in a decent league.
I'll get slated for this but Dalglish looks like a liability in the transfer market. £35m for Carroll, £20m for Henderson and now possibly £9m for Charlie Adam. That's almost £65m for 3 very average players imo. Liverpool hit the jackpot when they sold Torres for £50m but now they are just ****ing it away. We'll see next season I guess. They could turn out to be great, but really, I think Liverpool will be lucky to make the top 5 despite all this spending.
I like this Daily Mash parody: http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/sport-headlines/dalglish-spends-%C2%A38m-at-vending-machine-201106103932/
I'll get slated for this but Dalglish looks like a liability in the transfer market. £35m for Carroll, £20m for Henderson and now possibly £9m for Charlie Adam. That's almost £65m for 3 very average players imo. Liverpool hit the jackpot when they sold Torres for £50m but now they are just ****ing it away. We'll see next season I guess. They could turn out to be great, but really, I think Liverpool will be lucky to make the top 5 despite all this spending.
I like this Daily Mash parody: http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/sport-headlines/dalglish-spends-%C2%A38m-at-vending-machine-201106103932/
Ha ha, gotta agree with that, it is a bit mental. Downing next for 20 Mil !
Charlie Adam worth the £10m just for the quality of the setpieces!
Carroll at £35m well he did score more goals than Torres after they swapped clubs :chuckle:
Henderson looks a very good deal! because Sunderland are using the money to buy Darron Gibson from Man Utd :clap
Charlie Adam worth the £10m just for the quality of the setpieces!
Carroll at £35m well he did score more goals than Torres after they swapped clubs :chuckle:
Henderson looks a very good deal! because Sunderland are using the money to buy Darron Gibson from Man Utd :clap
we'll get Brown, Gibson & O'Shea for about £12 million they reckon! And as for Torres, lol!
i like the henderson purchase but really not sure about charlie adam.
I cant for thelife of me work out how he is a better footballer than Aquilani yet we are gonna sell aqua for 8mil and then spend 10 mil on charlie just confuses me it does.
I have had no complaints about any of kennys other buys but this one confuses me unless there is something i cant see in charlie adam
Adam can take a good set piece, but surely they have players already that can do that (Meireles?), not sure how he fits into their midfield if they are aiming to play slick attractive football. Maybe he's a temporary replacement for Gerrard, who is 31 and injured a lot now. I would have thought Liverpool fans would have preferred buying a Modric or something though.
Can't wait til Torres destroys everyone next season and the season after, oh and the one after that too.
But yeah i agree transfer fees are ridiculous atm.
Adam is worth the £10 million though, not world class but good enough for Liverpool.
Can't wait til Torres destroys everyone next season and the season after, oh and the one after that too.
But yeah i agree transfer fees are ridiculous atm.
Adam is worth the £10 million though, not world class but good enough for Liverpool.
My money is on Torres being sold to a Spanish club in the January window, don't rate him at all.
AaronWHUFC
14-06-11, 16:02
My money is on Torres being sold to a Spanish club in the January window, don't rate him at all.
He averages a goal every 1.9 games since he started off at Athletico. For liverpool, he averaged a goal every 1.25 games.
I'd appreciate it if you explained to me which bit of that you didn't rate?
Can't wait til Torres destroys everyone next season and the season after, oh and the one after that too.
But yeah i agree transfer fees are ridiculous atm.
Adam is worth the £10 million though, not world class but good enough for Liverpool.
How much do you value Adam at? :)
Yeah 5 goals in 6 games is pretty good i think.
Probs just trolling or a Sunderland fan.
AaronWHUFC
14-06-11, 16:18
Just read some of his posts. He's a United fan, explains the hatred/trolling.
Yeah 5 goals in 6 games is pretty good i think.
Probs just trolling or a Sunderland fan.
trolling? Yeah nice one.
I don't rate him because when the going gets tough, he doesn't get involved in the game like a lot of the top class strikers. He's stroppy, prone to injury and he's massively over rated.
AaronWHUFC
14-06-11, 19:29
trolling? Yeah nice one.
I don't rate him because when the going gets tough, he doesn't get involved in the game like a lot of the top class strikers. He's stroppy, prone to injury and he's massively over rated.
I'd agree to 2/3, he is stroppy, he is prone to injury. But, IMHO and the facts will agree with me here, he is not over rated.
Also, West Ham have signed Abdoulaye Faye on a Free. Good signing, will do well in the champ, needed someone like him to do the job Upson should have done.
Toonshorty
14-06-11, 19:33
Alan Smith to West Ham.
Demba Ba to Newcastle.
That's what I've heard.
AaronWHUFC
14-06-11, 19:35
Alan Smith to West Ham.
Demba Ba to Newcastle.
That's what I've heard.
Yeah. Be prepared for the "Demba Love Newcastle" crap that'll come out of his mouth. As much as I like the guy, you don't say that sort of stuff and walk out on the club less than 6 months later. He's quality, so I can't blame him. But, use your common sense Demba.
He'll do well for you lot, he's top,top quality. He'll easily bag you 20+ goals a season. He got us 7 goals in 12 apps :eek:
Smith's a typical West Ham signing though. Come to the end of his contract, rejected by a bigger club at some point, injury prone.
Fell sorry for your lot getting Smith. Nice lad but his legs have gone.
Crazy thing is Newcastle signed Tiote, Ben Arfa and Cabaye combined for less than what Henderson cost :D
trolling? Yeah nice one.
I don't rate him because when the going gets tough, he doesn't get involved in the game like a lot of the top class strikers.
Is that why he scored so often against Chelsea that they spent £50m on him? Torres had one season in the Prem were he was fit, enjoying his football and playing in a system and team that worked for him. During that season he proved he is potentially the most complete striker in the prem. Unfortunately for him, Liverpool and now Chelsea he has since been plagued by injuries, seems very difficult to partner and has lost form and confidence.
Hopefully he will be Shevchenko phase 2 and we can have him back on loan for next to nothing I a years time :thumb:
Hopefully he will be Shevchenko phase 2 and we can have him back on loan for next to nothing I a years time :thumb:
Before or after he wins us the quadruple?
torres has lost his pace, i hope for him he proves me wrong and does enough to justify his 50m price tag but tbh i think his best days are behind him.
yes he was a world beater but lets not beat around the bush here, 1 goal in 18 games for chelski aint worth 50m is it...im not saying he wont score more often in the future just that i dont think he will ever scare defenders again like he did in the 09/10 season for us.
home grown players have cost a premium for a few years now since the rules changed.
I'm struggling to see why Liverpool are prepared to pay (reportedly) £20m for Downing yet they won't fork out similar money for Mata. At least that's what's being reported anyway.
I think Henderson will be a quality signing considering his potential and his quality. I'm still not overly convinced Adam can do a job for Liverpool either as I don't think he's better than what we have already. Meireles is a much, much better player and was one of the best players for us during the Hodgson period when Liverpool were god awful to watch, he was one of the few positives.
I think we need 2 commanding central defenders in the Sami Hyypia-mould. We need a left-back who is actually going to perform the way we need him too on a consistent basis as Johnson has been doing well but he's not ideal. I think we should go for Coentrao or someone of that stature. We also need another forward since Ngog seems like he's Ngone.
While i would love to say Torres is rubbish after his pathetic performance throughout last seaon his performances for both liverpool, ATHLETICO and Spain proves he is world class.
As a Utd fan and long time admirer of his skills deep down i know he will come good. Form is temporary class is permanent.
As for henderson. Liverpool have not paid 20million. Was it not 13million plus ngog? Ngog must be worth 2million tops.
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While i would love to say Torres is rubbish after his pathetic performance throughout last seaon his performances for both liverpool, ATHLETICO and Spain proves he is world class.
As a Utd fan and long time admirer of his skills deep down i know he will come good. Form is temporary class is permanent.
As for henderson. Liverpool have not paid 20million. Was it not 13million plus ngog? Ngog must be worth 2million tops.
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I think you may be right about the fee for Henderson. It would have made sense to add Ngog to that deal but the Ngog transfer still hasn't went through.
I also agree with the point someone made about Aqualani. I'd give him a proper chance since he's proved his fitness. He actually showed glimpses of being a good player in a few games for Liverpool, but never really got a proper run of games.
Who knows... I'll trust King Kenny.
:D
As for henderson. Liverpool have not paid 20million. Was it not 13million plus ngog? Ngog must be worth £2 tops.
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Fixed for you :D
Mighty_Red
15-06-11, 09:54
torres has lost his pace, i hope for him he proves me wrong and does enough to justify his 50m price tag but tbh i think his best days are behind him.
yes he was a world beater but lets not beat around the bush here, 1 goal in 18 games for chelski aint worth 50m is it...im not saying he wont score more often in the future just that i dont think he will ever scare defenders again like he did in the 09/10 season for us.
home grown players have cost a premium for a few years now since the rules changed.
What Torres has forgotten is that he has only been prolific under Rafa, he hasn't repeated his strike-rate under any other manager (club or country) - look at 09/10 and his goals per game ratio for evidence
The main thing that he has lost for me is his atitude, which now stinks. When he first came to Liverpool he would get kicked to shreds but would simply get up and score and very rarely got upset. Now he gets stroppy at the slightest misdeed. He has become arrogant and way too big for his boots culminating in his betrayal in January.
A genuine man would have left when it was suitable for everyone, not a few days before the end of the window.
Not sure whether he will hit the heights he reached in the previous 3 years but I do think that he is STILL world-class and it will come back eventually, once he is brought back down to Earth, hopefully as soon as Chelsea flog him for £15m next summer ;)
I don't really rate either of Liverpools singings up to now. However, one thing you do get with Downing is decent delivery and with someone like Carroll that is essential so I can see Downing being effective if not a world beater.
News reports this morning claiming UTD are close to signing Sanchez. Although we are stocked up with wingers that is surely too good to be true, the lad is class. I reckon it's City putting the utd story out just so when he signs for them they can claim that they won the battle.
AaronWHUFC
15-06-11, 15:51
Wow. Nolan having a medical at west ham atm. What a coup!
Wow. Nolan having a medical at west ham atm. What a coup!
Great signing for West Ham, he must really love big sam to step down a division. He'll knock in 20 in the championship.
AaronWHUFC
15-06-11, 15:58
Great signing for West Ham, he must really love big sam to step down a division. He'll knock in 20 in the championship.
££££££££££££££
That's all he'll be in it for :)
££££££££££££££
That's all he'll be in it for :)
Aren't they all !
They are just on about it on Talksport actually, Adrian Durham saying it is all about the money, Alvin Martin saying it isn't
its for the love of the game !!!!!
:chuckle:
its for the love of the game !!!!!
:chuckle:
Something must've really :censored: him at newcastle to drop down to the championship, surely newcastle would match his wages.
After his goal scoring record in the premiership might be worth a bet to finish top scorer in the championship next season!
Toonshorty
15-06-11, 17:40
Something must've really :censored: him at newcastle to drop down to the championship, surely newcastle would match his wages.
What, with Ashley?
You're having a laugh.
Ashley refuses to pay for anyone or anything ::mad:
Ashley is asset stripping again and probably hoping what is left can keep us in the Prem.
My only hope is he is trying to claw back some of his money before he offloads the club but I just don't think he has any intention of selling.
Bry.
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Ashley is so attacked for no reason, he has pumped millions into the club, hundreds of millions, kept the squad together when they went down and has only sold Carroll for silly money and Nolan because he wanted a five year deal.
Ashley wouldnt dip into his pockets to keep nolan. A lot of geordies dont like him. My mates a geordie and cant wait for him to leave the club.
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Ashley is so attacked for no reason, he has pumped millions into the club, hundreds of millions, kept the squad together when they went down and has only sold Carroll for silly money and Nolan because he wanted a five year deal.
Are you a Newcastle fan?
Thought not so please don't try and protect this clueless owner of ours. He, and his right hand man, have zero idea what the club means to its fans.
I agree the Carroll sale was too good to turn down but to do it without having adequate cover in place or time to get a replacement in was sheer lunacy.
The same is happening now, players being sold/told they are not in the plans/not being offered new contracts. Its all good and well moving players on aslong as you have cover in place or at the very least proven players coming in.
Nolan has gone to be replaced by who? Cabaye? A complete unknown, if he flops we will suffer badly.
Refusing to offer Barton another contract is completely insane, he ran our midfield last season and will be a huge miss when he does leave.
So that leaves us with Jonas Tiote with Ben Arfa and Gosling to come in, both of the latter two still more or less untested.
It looks like Enrique will go aswell, not much the manager or owner can do about that if he decides to leave.
Upfront what have we got?
Ameobi and Lovenkrands with a walking injury in Demba Ba.
Sorry but I have no faith in the owner at all and Pardew is nothing but his pawn in all this.
Having supported the Toon for 30+ years I have seen so much and this regime is by far the worst.
Bry.
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Well at least you didn't get Steve McClaren.
AaronWHUFC
17-06-11, 21:40
Demba Ba walking injury? I know he's failed a medical before and why, but he's been playing for over 3 seasons know without any problems, scoring a ****load of goals on the way.
Ashley finally finds a decent replacement...someone who loads of you will agree is a lot better than Carrol at the moment. I get the feeling you have no idea what you've just bought :p
Watching some videos, some west ham matches, whatever...Ba is an awesome player.
Also...Cabaye isn't unproven. He's played all season with the current French Champions.
Corr, give Ashley a break!
Demba Ba walking injury? I know he's failed a medical before and why, but he's been playing for over 3 seasons know without any problems, scoring a ****load of goals on the way.
Ashley finally finds a decent replacement...someone who loads of you will agree is a lot better than Carrol at the moment. I get the feeling you have no idea what you've just bought :p
Watching some videos, some west ham matches, whatever...Ba is an awesome player.
Also...Cabaye isn't unproven. He's played all season with the current French Champions.
Corr, give Ashley a break!
Ba was rejected by Stoke before he went to the Hammers for the very injury that we seem to have ignored, yes he has a good scoring record but I just have a feeling this injury is gonna haunt us.
As for Cabaye, the french league... enough said tbh.
I guess we will just have to wait and see.
Bry.
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AaronWHUFC
17-06-11, 22:41
Ba was rejected by Stoke before he went to the Hammers for the very injury that we seem to have ignored, yes he has a good scoring record but I just have a feeling this injury is gonna haunt us.
As for Cabaye, the french league... enough said tbh.
I guess we will just have to wait and see.
Bry.
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His Injury. Basically, he had an OP in 2007 to remove the pins he had put in his leg after it was broken. This was the issue and the reason for the failed medical. I don't know the exact details but that's as much as I do know.
Like I say, he has proven himself for us and has proven himself over the years for Hoffenhaim.
We'll see, when he bags you 20+ goals next season, I shall come and remind you of this post :D
Looks like you Geordies have picked up another walking injury from under our noses:
http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_6994898,00.html
Risky transfer strategy so far, but players with the quality and potential of Ba and Marveaux for free could just as easily pay off. Unfortunately when the owner views his investment in a football club as a business then you are going to get this (see Cole and Jovanovic at LFC 12 months ago).
On Nolan, clearly something wasn't right as fans not liking a top goal scoring captain is a bad sign. No idea what he is playing at with Barton though.
Ba was rejected by Stoke before he went to the Hammers for the very injury that we seem to have ignored, yes he has a good scoring record but I just have a feeling this injury is gonna haunt us.
As for Cabaye, the french league... enough said tbh.
I guess we will just have to wait and see.
Bry.
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The French League isn't a bad league. It is ranked 5th on the UEFA coefficient (behind Italy).
Quite a few of the best premier league players came out the French leagues. Drogba, Malouda, Evra, Adebayor, Yaya Toure plus half the Arsenal squad (Nasri, Sagna, Clichy, Song, Chamakh) spring to mind out the top four alone.
Is that why he scored so often against Chelsea that they spent £50m on him? Torres had one season in the Prem were he was fit, enjoying his football and playing in a system and team that worked for him. During that season he proved he is potentially the most complete striker in the prem. Unfortunately for him, Liverpool and now Chelsea he has since been plagued by injuries, seems very difficult to partner and has lost form and confidence.
Hopefully he will be Shevchenko phase 2 and we can have him back on loan for next to nothing I a years time :thumb:
Why would we want him back Suarez is s very good replacement
Why would we want him back Suarez is s very good replacement
Suarez and Torres as our first choice partnership could have set the Premier League alight. I am not saying I would rather have him than Suarez and Carroll, but if the option to get him back for very little came about (like Shevchenko) then we would be fools not to give it a go ;)
Looks like Alexis Sanchez is on his way to Barca (probably disappointing for Man City and United fans)
De Gea to Man United, confirmed.
Apparently Charlie Adam in talks with Liverpool.
Stoke have had a bid for Scott Dann and Cameron Jerome rejected.
Milner and Hitzelsperger going back to Aston Villa.
well Man city signs gael ...next samir ..arsenal are losing a lot of players
AaronWHUFC
05-07-11, 09:46
Suprise suprise, Tevez wants to leave City again.
Suprise suprise, Tevez wants to leave City again.
Be interesting to see where he ends up, his wages are massive.
Gotta be Madrid I reckon
Suprise suprise, Tevez wants to leave City again.
They should just sell him then, he is really good, but all this faffing around, he's just after more money again.
They'll get Nasri who is just as good and they'll buy another striker so they dont need him really.
not really a suprise is it that Tevez wants out again, he has done his 2 years at city and time to move on. I think they will get over £40m but not sure who they will get to replace him??
Milner and Hitzelsperger going back to Aston Villa.
Please tell me thats true!!
Villa are after N'zogbia apparently! :facepalm:
AaronWHUFC
05-07-11, 15:19
Please tell me thats true!!
Villa are after N'zogbia apparently! :facepalm:
Why don't you want N'zogbia? :confused:
Same reason no one wants carlton cole.
AaronWHUFC
05-07-11, 15:45
Same reason no one wants carlton cole.
Do go on. I can understand Cole..but N'zogbia is quality. If you ever watch him, he can take on 4 or 5 prem standard defenders easily. One of the best Wingers in the prem at the moment.
Liverpool sign Charlie Adam: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14051735.stm
I hope all the rumors about Tottenham are rubbish about Modric & Bale going to Chelsea. If they want top football week in, week out then joining a club like that will not get you on the pitch every week. You will be behind all the other top players.
it is rubbish. Modric is going to Chelsea, Bale is going to Manchester City :P
Modric told he has to stay: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14048163.stm
That pretty much means Bale will stay for another season since he said that if Modric goes, so does he.
I've heard a few rumours that Mata is on his way to the Mighty Pool. Heard it from some very reliable sources too, so I'm hoping they're right!
:)
John O'Shea and Wes Brown to Sunderland.
At last wes brown no longer on the OT payroll.
O'Shea though is a better player.
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Wes brown was going to be sold in the summer by utd he has put his house up for sale, a bargain at just under £4m if anyone is looking to move house!
The 3 players for £12m looks a good deal for Sunderland but another midfielder leaving is not a good sign!
I am hoping to keep hold of Gibson as he has potential.
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I would have kept O'Shea. Can play anywhere basically, a good backup and doesn't complain about it.
I would have kept O'Shea he is a quality versatile player.
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niceguyrichy
07-07-11, 12:27
Liverpool sign Charlie Adam: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14051735.stm
finally. nice wee moving on fee for Gers there too :thumb:
speaking of which, Super Ally finally signed someone yesterday: Ortiz signs for Gers (http://www.givemefootball.com/premier-league/rangers-confirm-ortiz-deal?)
finally. nice wee moving on fee for Gers there too :thumb:
speaking of which, Super Ally finally signed someone yesterday: Ortiz signs for Gers (http://www.givemefootball.com/premier-league/rangers-confirm-ortiz-deal?)
Fellow Gers fan on the forum :thumb: Can't believe Charlie Adam is now a Liverpool player
I think the Sunderland signings are what have stood out for me, on paper they have gone from a side hovering above relegation to one which should survive with relative ease.
Clearly things are rarely that simple, but I think they have bought extremely well, while Wes Brown isnt Man Utd standard, he certainly has enough about him to perform well for a mid table side.
Wes Brown was unlucky with injuries and was a good squad player at Utd and how many current premier league players have 2 champions league winners medals :cool:
I never felt Wes Brown was good enough for Utd, a good steady player, what would of been called an honest player in days gone by :)
But Utd should be looking for better than him.
Brazilian Club Corinthians make £35 million bid for Tevez but Man City is likely to reject it... http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14117887.stm
AaronWHUFC
12-07-11, 16:53
Leicester City about to sign Konchesky....and his £40k a week wages!
Leicester City about to sign Konchesky....and his £40k a week wages!
Ouch!!
Kenny Miller could be back at Rangers next season :D. He finished top scorer in the SPL last season despite leaving in January :eek: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14120006.stm
ThunderFlash
13-07-11, 16:02
I never felt Wes Brown was good enough for Utd, a good steady player, what would of been called an honest player in days gone by :)
But Utd should be looking for better than him.
06-08 he was top notch, struggled without him the season after.
Charles Graham Adam
When the news came through on RAWK that Charlie Adam has signed for Liverpool Football club I was elated. I felt such a feeling of joy in my heart that I had a pseudo religious experience. Into a large man-sized tissue, that I had - at the last minute - found in my Wrangler jeans.
And then it all became so clear.
I suddenly felt at one with the world. I felt that my body and soul were part of a greater system of existence. I felt that I was on a higher plane and that nothing could ever supersede this feeling. Not even being given a large multi-pack of Flamin' hot Monster Munch. It was then that I truly began to understand what it is to be human.
And what it is about Liverpool Football Club that transends the mortal human soul.
You see, Charlie Adam did not have control over his feelings. Like a teenager in the flush of first love, Charles Graham Adam's head was in the clouds the moment he heard of the King's interest. He could not sleep. He could not eat. He could only think of the king and Liverpool Football Club.
Like a moth drawn to the light, like a bored man drawn to midget porn on the internet, and like a salmon drawn upstream to the calm pools of the mating chamber, Charles Graham Adam was drawn to the hallowed halls of Anfield.
Into the chamber of the King.
As King Kenny delicately, yet masterfully, intricately yet forcefully, passively yet directly assembles a title winning side he somehow takes on an ethereal quality. He rises above the minnions, scratching around at ground level for the dregs of the football world. He rises above us all and we raise our faces to him in trembling awe.
Ready for what He has to give us. All over our grills.
I pray to him and give thanks.
Dear King Kenny
This Gift...
Thank you for this gift,
Which you've bestowed to us,
This gift is life,
Life Eternally
Creation by your hands,
And the blood of your wrist.
I beg of you,
To live your life,
For all of those,
Who've been deprived.
I beg of you,
To live your life,
For those who've cried,
and been deprived
Of This precious gift,
The most precious gift,
The gift of Charles Graham Adam
haha that's brilliant Thunderflash :thumb:
ThunderFlash
13-07-11, 19:24
To be honest not my work, found it on another forum.
It tickled my ribs!
To be honest not my work, found it on another forum.
It tickled my ribs!
RAWK?
Liverpool agree £20m fee with Villa for downing.
Now for a left back, then were done!
Liverpool agree £20m fee with Villa for downing.
Now for a left back, then were done!
I haven't checked but do you have a right back anymore? Johnson is effectively a winger now.
I haven't checked but do you have a right back anymore? Johnson is effectively a winger now.
Johnson, Kelly, Flanagan and Carragher. I think we are covered.
i doubt liverpool will make top 4, they havent been of that quality for years now
i doubt liverpool will make top 4, they havent been of that quality for years now
Gotta agree really and over 80 million on Adam, Henderson, Downing and Carroll is madness
I agree some of the fees are staggering, but at the same time we needed to get back to challenging for the title. If you seen the way Liverpool were playing under Dalglish towards the end of last season then you'd have to agree that the club is moving forward, especially given the way they played under Woy Hodgson. They were painful to watch under Woy's management-style.
They're working from the ground up and they are getting the basics right by getting a good foundation built. I believe all the players they've added so far, particularly Suarez, will only benefit the club.
The FSG Group have worked wonders with the fans and getting the basics right. They've brought in the King to put Liverpool back where they belong and to conduct themselves off the fiend they way they always have. Long may it continue!
I agree some of the fees are staggering, but at the same time we needed to get back to challenging for the title. If you seen the way Liverpool were playing under Dalglish towards the end of last season then you'd have to agree that the club is moving forward, especially given the way they played under Woy Hodgson. They were painful to watch under Woy's management-style.
They're working from the ground up and they are getting the basics right by getting a good foundation built. I believe all the players they've added so far, particularly Suarez, will only benefit the club.
The FSG Group have worked wonders with the fans and getting the basics right. They've brought in the King to put Liverpool back where they belong and to conduct themselves off the fiend they way they always have. Long may it continue!
I would argue that if Roy had been given proper support by the board, and the fans, and ultimately the players then I think things could of been different.
Basically the money he was given to spend was a bit of a joke, and its hard to convince players to come, when you are spending a lot of your time convincing players to stay.
Im not saying he would of been a success or fantastic, but I dont believe he was given a real chance, I felt it was a mistake for him to go there.
I would argue that if Roy had been given proper support by the board, and the fans, and ultimately the players then I think things could of been different.
Basically the money he was given to spend was a bit of a joke, and its hard to convince players to come, when you are spending a lot of your time convincing players to stay.
Im not saying he would of been a success or fantastic, but I dont believe he was given a real chance, I felt it was a mistake for him to go there.
+1
he had a few bad results, and the fans/board/players shot him down, ultimately it was how the players performed on the pitch those games, and they did no justice to their club, nor did they do justice to their manager
manager is always the first person out of the door, always will be like that!
wonder how long before Kenny starts losing games, how quickly the Kop will turn on him? if he wasn't a Legend he wouldn't have even gotten the oppertunity, all im saying :P
just take one look at what happened to Rafa :P
I would argue that if Roy had been given proper support by the board, and the fans, and ultimately the players then I think things could of been different.
Basically the money he was given to spend was a bit of a joke, and its hard to convince players to come, when you are spending a lot of your time convincing players to stay.
Im not saying he would of been a success or fantastic, but I dont believe he was given a real chance, I felt it was a mistake for him to go there.
He was given a fair bit of support by the board, in terms of money anyway. He just wasn't allowed the amount of time he needed to get the team the way he wanted it. Had he been allowed to stay in charge, Liverpool could have been relegated.
He bought Meireles for £12.5m - not a bad buy by any means. He bought Konchesky for approx £4m plus 2 very promising youngsters who were both highly thought of in the LFC Academy who both went the other way as part of the deal. That was a complete waste of money and we lost 2 very good young players too - Dalla Valle and Kalinicic. He bought Poulsen who is widely thought to be one of the worst players ever seen in a Liverpool shirt for £4.5m. He got Joe Cole on a Free but wasn't able to get the best out of him due to the system Woy was making Liverpool play aka long hoof up the pitch instead of the usual Liverpool passing-style.
Liverpool were 19th in the league at one stage and facing possible relegation from the Premier League having made the worst start to a season for Liverpool in over 80 years. I think that tells you all you need to know about Woy's stint at managment in Liverpool.
Liverpools fall from grace was in full swing well before Roy took charge at Liverpool. He's a top class manager and deservedly beat you when he took charge at West Brom, a run taking them into mid table when they were candidates for relegation.
Don't pin your awful start on the Hodg!
He's a good manager, there's no doubt about that. He just didn't fit the bill for Liverpool.
It's no mistake he's done well at two struggling teams because his 'hard to beat' tactics work so well when you stick 11 men behind the ball, however, that's not how Liverpool play and therefore why he didn't fit in for Liverpool. He was asking players who are used to passing the ball quickly and hitting teams on the break, to sit back and ping long balls to the front man. The problem came when we we didn't have a target man to focus on. Torres wasn't doing well because he wasn't getting balls to feet and was becoming more and more frustrated due to the long ball tactics.
He just wasn't the right man for the job. Simple.
ThunderFlash
14-07-11, 16:18
SAF denying any interest in Sneijder, dunno if that's a good or bad thing!
SAF denying any interest in Sneijder, dunno if that's a good or bad thing!
Don't need Sneijder now that Gibson move to Sunderland has broken down :chairfall:
ThunderFlash
14-07-11, 16:23
Don't need Sneijder now that Gibson move to Sunderland has broken down :chairfall:
The Irish Xavi:picard:
The Irish Xavi:picard:
LMAO
love it :P
Sneijder is an awesome player, granted his move to Real Madrid didn't help his career, but hes deffo proved his worth in Serie A....and i would love to see him in a United shirt.
The Irish Chavvy :picard:
:ninja: edited for ya :chuckle:
He's a good manager, there's no doubt about that. He just didn't fit the bill for Liverpool.
It's no mistake he's done well at two struggling teams because his 'hard to beat' tactics work so well when you stick 11 men behind the ball, however, that's not how Liverpool play and therefore why he didn't fit in for Liverpool. He was asking players who are used to passing the ball quickly and hitting teams on the break, to sit back and ping long balls to the front man. The problem came when we we didn't have a target man to focus on. Torres wasn't doing well because he wasn't getting balls to feet and was becoming more and more frustrated due to the long ball tactics.
He just wasn't the right man for the job. Simple.
I would say Liverpool had pretty much stopped playing free flowing attacking football well before Roy took over.
Torres wasnt exactly setting the world alight anymore, in much the same way that he didnt improve after Roy left, or when he moved to Chelsea.
The majority of fans basically wanted shot of Roy before he took over because he wasnt a big enough name.
I would argue that the money Roy spent was all that he was allowed to spend, and the board were reluctant to let him spend heavily on a single player, but allowed him to spend money as they thought that they needed players.
As previously stated, I dont necessarily think he was the man for the job, however it was made infinitely more difficult due to fans and board, and ultimately players who really looked like they couldnt give a toss.
I also agree, the Hodg was wrong for the Liverpool philosophy/style. Lots of Liverpool fans wanted King Kenny appointed (including my two friends, who are both big L'pool fans) during the Hodg's reign but he's exactly what they needed to turn it around with the new owners investment.
I'm being dragged to the KC Stadium in Hull to watch Liverpool next week, it'll be interesting to see the likes of Downing (if selected) in a Liverpool shirt!
When you consider how much Ashley Young went to United for you have to ask if this is another player that warrants yet another hefty price tag.
You're splashing the cash around like City :)
I also agree, the Hodg was wrong for the Liverpool philosophy/style. Lots of Liverpool fans wanted King Kenny appointed (including my two friends, who are both big L'pool fans) during the Hodg's reign but he's exactly what they needed to turn it around with the new owners investment.
I'm being dragged to the KC Stadium in Hull to watch Liverpool next week, it'll be interesting to see the likes of Downing (if selected) in a Liverpool shirt!
When you consider how much Ashley Young went to United for you have to ask if this is another player that warrants yet another hefty price tag.
You're splashing the cash around like City :)
downing is an average winger in my eyes, hes not exactly been a regular winger in the England setup either.....personally i think Liverpools spending has been pretty amazing, £35 mill for an English forward who performed well in the Championship and didn't do enough for me to warrant such a high price tag
tho in saying that, i do think he is a massive threat in the air, and might add something different to the side.....you lot had it when you sold Alonso lol, same as Arsenal struggled when they got rid of Viera
At least your clubs have money...mine *Everton* havent done anything yet lol, its like watching paint dry
downing is an average winger in my eyes, hes not exactly been a regular winger in the England setup either.....personally i think Liverpools spending has been pretty amazing, £35 mill for an English forward who performed well in the Championship and didn't do enough for me to warrant such a high price tag
tho in saying that, i do think he is a massive threat in the air, and might add something different to the side.....you lot had it when you sold Alonso lol, same as Arsenal struggled when they got rid of Viera
At least your clubs have money...mine *Everton* havent done anything yet lol, its like watching paint dry
The only player that Liverpool got that I think warrants the cash is Suarez - who was a bargain really.
Downing seems to flatter to deceive - though thats similar to a lot of wingers I guess.
Carroll - well he could go on to become a good player, but he doesnt strike me as a £35million player, and I think Newcastle got a great deal, he obviously has time to develop, and may well do - but it seems quite a risk.
With regards to Everton, I would like to see how Moyes would do with some 'real' money, as he has consistently got Everton to 'over achieve' (though I guess that the fact its consistent would mean its not actually over achieving)
If Everton can cut out their usual dodgy start then they could push for Europe, but Im wondering how long Moyes will be at Everton.
With regards to Everton, I would like to see how Moyes would do with some 'real' money, as he has consistently got Everton to 'over achieve' (though I guess that the fact its consistent would mean its not actually over achieving)
If Everton can cut out their usual dodgy start then they could push for Europe, but Im wondering how long Moyes will be at Everton.
Tell me about it. Purely from an on paper point of view I would say we are over achieving. Given how little money Moyes has to play with he is doing superb. But that is a testament to how great he is.
If we can get rid of the now trademark dodgy first couple of months I would hope Europe would be achievable.
I can definitely see Moyes as a target for Manchester United when Ferguson eventually retires. As an Everton fan I wouldn't have an issue with it to a great extent as it would be something Moyes would definitely deserve, yes it would affect Everton hugely and we would need to find a manager who can work the same magic. He is one of the best managers there is IMO.
Tell me about it. Purely from an on paper point of view I would say we are over achieving. Given how little money Moyes has to play with he is doing superb. But that is a testament to how great he is.
If we can get rid of the now trademark dodgy first couple of months I would hope Europe would be achievable.
I can definitely see Moyes as a target for Manchester United when Ferguson eventually retires. As an Everton fan I wouldn't have an issue with it to a great extent as it would be something Moyes would definitely deserve, yes it would affect Everton hugely and we would need to find a manager who can work the same magic. He is one of the best managers there is IMO.
i 100% agree with you
hes a top manager, and i think he will be in the running for Man united when Fergie retires probably next year.
But i dont think we have the funds to buy anyone substantial, would probably be a good idea to invest in our attack, as i cant see Saha performing consistently.
but its having the money i guess :(
The loan market offers a lot of potential for clubs like Everton, and they should probably pursue it more.
They are a big club, and are known worldwide so attracting talent from clubs where players arent getting much of a look in should be relatively easy.
+1 Liverpool were mad to even think about getting rid of Alonso, but I see a perfect replacement in Adam, as Holloway stated.
I admired what Damien Comolli did for Spurs, discovered some top class players (Bale, most noticeably) and look how well they're doing with Harry in charge.
I think ultimately, these signing will repay some of the money spent on them with good performances and a lot of development to change these good players into world class players. Fingers crossed too, as most are English.
I admired what Damien Comolli did for Spurs, discovered some top class players (Bale, most noticeably)
On that point I would argue that anyone that saw him for Southampton said he was a real talent and worth a punt.
I used to go with a friend, and we both knew he would quickly get snapped up.
However, I dont doubt he knows a player when he sees one, just that with Bale its not like he was a hidden gem that only he saw the potential of.
Fair point. Maybe the likes of Taarabt who's had a great season at QPR, Modric or even Berba were better examples. These guys were relatively unknown before they joined spurs, to myself anyway.
Fair point. Maybe the likes of Taarabt who's had a great season at QPR, Modric or even Berba were better examples. These guys were relatively unknown before they joined spurs, to myself anyway.
I think the problem is that outside of the premiership its hard to get to hear about good players unless you see them yourself, or sky show the games.
QPR arent exactly an obscure side, so its likely that other teams were watching.
However I will add that its one thing knowing talent, its another picking talent that will work within your clubs framework - for that he cant really be faulted.
Taarabt was awful at Spurs. His attitude stunk. How he is being rated at as high as £12m is unbelievable. I bet you next season he will want to move if they get relegated (or even if they don't).
My team, Gillingham, have had an awesome transfer window. It's be great fun to watch.
i doubt liverpool will make top 4, they havent been of that quality for years now
While I agree they haven't been quality for years, with the money being spent Man City style by Liverpool they may just be contenders. I stil lthink they've spent too much on Carroll and Downing & getting rid of Mereiles is not good business.
There is one caveat, if one of those annoying scousers comes out & says "this is our year" they will finish 5th or lower guaranteed.
Taarabt was awful at Spurs. His attitude stunk. How he is being rated at as high as £12m is unbelievable. I bet you next season he will want to move if they get relegated (or even if they don't).
My team, Gillingham, have had an awesome transfer window. It's be great fun to watch.
I think I've read somewhere he already wants to move, with ParisSG prepared to pay as much as £12 million for him.
At the rate it's going, Liverpool might put in a £90m bid for Nicklas Bendtner next week
niceguyrichy
17-07-11, 06:58
Davie Weir has signed a new one year contract with Rangers. legend :thumb:
Villa accepted a Gers bid for Carlos Cuellar, but i reckon he'll be heading to Spain where he'll get paid twice what we can afford :(
Corinthians have increased their bid from £35mil to £39mil for Tevez. Another £6mil and I can see them accepting this, then possibly Aguero coming to Eastlands as his replacement. I'd love to see him in the PL.
City have got to accept the bid, theres only so long he will continue to perform whilst unhappy. 39 million isnt exactly a bad deal is it!
City should accept 39million quickly. Tevez is not worth that amount. He is a gd player but hes not that good.
Hes just a sulky child who is just after payday after payday. He left utd because of greed now hes doing the same to city
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This will basically just be that Kia Jorawhatshisname buying Tevez's contract back, same as it was when he was at West Ham/Utd. If he goes back to Brazil he'll be there until Jan then that Kia will flog him for a fortune to Madrid/Inter maybe even Chelsea or someone
This will basically just be that Kia Jorawhatshisname buying Tevez's contract back, same as it was when he was at West Ham/Utd. If he goes back to Brazil he'll be there until Jan then that Kia will flog him for a fortune to Madrid/Inter maybe even Chelsea or someone
TBH, Tevez proves to be a little bit of a liability, there is only so long that a player will be able to be sold for shed loads.
Ronaldo is a case in point, while he is a talent, anyone that goes for that sort of money is going to have to go some to recoup that amount of cash.
Tevez out, Aguero in?
I think Liverpool still have one or two signings to make - particularly in defence. I wouldn't be surprised to see them get rid of a few midfielders. The link with Cattermole was laughable at the very least.
I think Spurs have some business to do as well.
The last few weeks of the Transfer Window should make for interesting viewing.
ThunderFlash
18-07-11, 12:13
City should accept 39million quickly. Tevez is not worth that amount. He is a gd player but hes not that good.
They have a while yet until the window closes.
Undoubtedly they are waiting for other clubs (eg Real) to enter a bidding war for him, upping the price.
City accepted the offer..:thumb:
They have a while yet until the window closes.
Undoubtedly they are waiting for other clubs (eg Real) to enter a bidding war for him, upping the price.
They gotta balance the books somehow once UEFA block their stadium con.
Hargreaves might turn up at West Brom next season, I hope so as he's more then deserving of a good club.
I'd be suprised to see Tevez deal done before the deadline but I hope it is so we (Citizens) can put it to bed, Aquero would be a fine replacement but even then I'm not that concerned I think Dzeko and Balotelli can do a job for us although with the latters temperament I'd prefer a couple of other options.
Looks like Arsene is digging his feet in over Nasri so I'd be suprised if he was to move this window, so we could well be back in for Snieder and maybe a Tevez swap deal with Inter may still be on the cards and with Fab looking like he'll move too, they have to be in the market for a few more.
No one elses deal are that interesting apart from Phil Jones who could well go on to be a great player, all the rest are pretty much muh and not worrying me in the slightest, I'm looking forward to another competative open season and to the victor go the spoils!
Hargreaves might turn up at West Brom next season, I hope so as he's more then deserving of a good club.
I could see West Brom compete at the top end of the PL next season, it'll be a strong squad with the addition of Hargreaves and possibly another player or two.
Maybe the Hodg pipping Liverpool to some European football?! :lol:
Hamsik seems to be the only player in CM/CAM that could fill the void left by Fab. He would be a great replacement, he just won't come cheap.
ThunderFlash
20-07-11, 02:01
Talk about Tevez in a swap with Sneijder.
Will Carlos the mercenary just go away :|
Talk about Tevez in a swap with Sneijder.
Will Carlos the mercenary just go away :|
I can see this happening. I'm now resigned to utd not signing anyone else
Have said Utd dont need Sneijder they have the Gibson aka The Irish Xavi :facepalm:
:clap
Maybe the Hodg pipping Liverpool to some European football?!
Would I be allowed to laugh if that happened? :)
In fairness I dont think it will, as thats a bloody big step for them to take.
Tevez deal fell through because Corinthians couldn't provide evidence that they had the money to fund the deal, even the first payment of £9m up-front from what I've read, so no wonder they pulled the plug.
niceguyrichy
21-07-11, 13:42
Gers agree fee for Wallace (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12874_7052069,00.html?)
good news. we should follow it up by making a proper bid for Goodwillie now, instead of chasing a striker winding down in his career..
Would I be allowed to laugh if that happened? :)
Only if there's a Liverpool fan present :lol:
The offer tabled by Corinthians did seem a bit too good to be true, but it looks like Aguero will be on his way to Eastlands regardless of Tevez.
Its worrying that clubs can be allowed to just keep buying players.
At the other end of the scale, Crawley did it lasy year in January buying players that their competition were interested in to stop them bolstering their squads.
Come the close season, some have been released!
Its worrying that clubs can be allowed to just keep buying players.
Lolwut?
So far City's(who I assume you're aluding to) transfer income has exceeded it's expenditure and is no where near what United and Liverpool have spent so far.
In other word hypocritical haters be hating.
While i do agree utd and liverpool have spent big this year over the last two or three seasons city have spent more money than some countries national debt. Not having a go krusty just fact if city want someone they can spend whatever they want but they havent because the fair trade rules kinda start this season which is why city havent spent big, they simply cannot comply with the new rules.if.they did...
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While i do agree utd and liverpool have spent big this year over the last two or three seasons city have spent more money than some countries national debt. Not having a go krusty just fact if city want someone they can spend whatever they want but they havent because the fair trade rules kinda start this season which is why city havent spent big, they simply cannot comply with the new rules.if.they did...
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With over 120 million in losses and an inability to move along ythose highly paid mercenaries like Adebayor & Tevez they have artificially inflated the stadium naming rights deal in order to pass the Financial Fair Play rules. If UEFA don't allow the deal due to it being so close to the owner and so highly inflated (not even Man Utd/Chelsea/Liverpool could get that much) then City will not be getting into Europe when the rules hit them.
You might find this (http://swissramble.blogspot.com/2011/07/manchester-citys-incredible-deal-know.html) an interesting read, if you can look through you tinted glasses and bitterness.
Hasten to say the people in charge of my team know what there doing I have no worries about my teams ability to compete we're here to stay, get used to it.
So any new transfer news?
You might find this (http://swissramble.blogspot.com/2011/07/manchester-citys-incredible-deal-know.html) an interesting read, if you can look through you tinted glasses and bitterness.
Hasten to say the people in charge of my team know what there doing I have no worries about my teams ability to compete we're here to stay, get used to it.
“The backdrop, of course, is UEFA’s Financial Fair Play and this deal helps (us) to continue to make significant progress in that area.” Garry Cook.
so when you own chief exec admits you are flaunting the new rules how do you think uefa will feel about you taking the game into disrepute?
me i could care less about city spending big as i am more concerned about liverpool getting back on track now we are rid of those american clowns.
So any new transfer news?
nothing solid that i have seen today no :/
“The backdrop, of course, is UEFA’s Financial Fair Play and this deal helps (us) to continue to make significant progress in that area.” Garry Cook.
so when you own chief exec admits you are flaunting the new rules how do you think uefa will feel about you taking the game into disrepute?
Worried, a bit like the established elite.
Lolwut?
So far City's(who I assume you're aluding to) transfer income has exceeded it's expenditure and is no where near what United and Liverpool have spent so far.
In other word hypocritical haters be hating.
I'm a darlington fan, I have no hate for any premiership team
Worried, a bit like the established elite.
more worried that your teams inexperience, arrogance and plain stupidity is going to cost english football on the whole yes, not for liverpool. i think we are currently in the fight for 4th place now with the gunners, spurs and maybe villa or everton if they go all year without injuries while you and chelski keep trying to buy the prem and manu will be there abouts again.
more worried that your teams inexperience, arrogance and plain stupidity is going to cost english football on the whole yes, not for liverpool. i think we are currently in the fight for 4th place now with the gunners, spurs and maybe villa or everton if they go all year without injuries while you and chelski keep trying to buy the prem and manu will be there abouts again.
Btw I'm all for breaking up UEFA and FIFA and taking the clubs out of private hands and back to the local council and any money generated to the local community, wage caps, draft system, the lot.
Or shall we start talking about financial "fair play" and how far down the rabbit hole goes, Liverpool being squeaky clean of course and everythings above board throughout your history and your team in no way helped or is helping perpetrate and inflate this whole money business it is today...
Or has "King Kenny" say u jelly (http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2011/04/11/liverpool-fc-boss-kenny-dalglish-judge-man-city-on-results-not-cash-92534-28495248/)?
Edit: And apologies for derailing the thread, I find it hard to resist the snipers, guess it's something I'll get used too and in transfer news Aquero has stayed in South America and failed to meet up with his team, looks like he's sorting out a move!
Is agueuro going to city. He is a cracking player.
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I'm a darlington fan, I have no hate for any premiership team
C'mon! Not even just a little bit for Newcastle?! :D
Btw I'm all for breaking up UEFA and FIFA and taking the clubs out of private hands and back to the local council and any money generated to the local community, wage caps, draft system, the lot.
Or shall we start talking about financial "fair play" and how far down the rabbit hole goes, Liverpool being squeaky clean of course and everythings above board throughout your history and your team in no way helped or is helping perpetrate and inflate this whole money business it is today...
Or has "King Kenny" say u jelly (http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2011/04/11/liverpool-fc-boss-kenny-dalglish-judge-man-city-on-results-not-cash-92534-28495248/)?
Edit: And apologies for derailing the thread, I find it hard to resist the snipers, guess it's something I'll get used too and in transfer news Aquero has stayed in South America and failed to meet up with his team, looks like he's sorting out a move!
gotta talk about something, i mean theres no new news is there :P
kenny did, i mean he was bought in to buy the prem the first time by blackburn way back when but afaik liverpool aint using companies that the owner pretty much runs to "pay" silly amounts so they can claim to be living within their own means likr some :|
a very quiet big transfers summer so far :( Utd bought a couple of youngsters but still no central midfielders :( and gibson stilll there :mad:
Wherever City got the money from its going to be great for the local area the huge complex they are looking to build will generate a lot of jobs and maybe even more local investment.
Its not long to go now folks and football season will be back again :weeee
Its not long to go now folks and football season will be back again :weeee
I know, I can't wait :D
Apparently Villa have agreed a £9.5million fee with Wigan for N'Zogbia. Liverpool should have saved some cash and bought him instead of Downing.
niceguyrichy
25-07-11, 11:09
Dorin Goian 'on verge' of signing for Rangers (http://www.scotsman.com/rangersfc/Dorin-Goian-39on-verge39-of.6807277.jp?)
no idea who he is tbh, but any strengthening of our defence atm is welcome :)
although this quote from BBC is almost a worry:
But Goian might still not be eligible to face Malmo at Ibrox on Tuesday.
A Scottish Football Association spokesman said: "He would require a work permit. There has been no contact from Rangers."
Different regulations apply to Romanian and Bulgarian nationals who desire to live and work in the UK, compared to other EU countries.
:|
My team, Leeds United look like they're closing in on keeper Andy Lonergan as Everton couldn't reach an agreement with Preston.
Awesome news, I just hope I haven't jinxed the situation now!
C'mon! Not even just a little bit for Newcastle?! :D
Nope :) though after the friendly and then hearing idiots defend the actions trying to blame police and stewards I have a lot less respect for them (yup I know its a minority)
I know, I can't wait :D
Apparently Villa have agreed a £9.5million fee with Wigan for N'Zogbia. Liverpool should have saved some cash and bought him instead of Downing.
Yeah Downing was expensive really.
But i dont think N'Zogbia will do well at Villa though, he'll have to do everything himself then set Bent up.
They've sold all there good players, just left with average now really.
They were 9th last season and will be about that again i reckon.
silly amounts :|
Take it you've not seen your recent transfer acquisitions?...That'll be our fault I guess, inflating the market and all?...:rolleyes:
In other transfer news Stoke looking to sign Crouchy, having recently signed Woodgate on a free, they'll have some aerial threat next season if they pull that one of!
crouch and jones upfront for Stoke so even more assists in the fantasy football for the delap long throw aka the delapidator :chuckle:
I think crouchy would be a good addition for stoke, probs cheap for around £12 million or something as well.
Nope :) though after the friendly and then hearing idiots defend the actions trying to blame police and stewards I have a lot less respect for them (yup I know its a minority)
Yeah, there's no need for that. Someone told me they were chanting that they were gonna invade the pitch if Sammy Ameobi scored. Then unfortunately, he did.
But i dont think N'Zogbia will do well at Villa though, he'll have to do everything himself then set Bent up.
They've sold all there good players, just left with average now really.
I think N'Zogbia will do alright at Villa, Wigan are a very average squad and he did well for them last season. Villa still have some VERY talented footballers in Albrighton/Delph/Bannan/Ireland and could possibly fill the void left by Young.
Alex Mcleish can spot a good, talented player and I think Randy Lerner will let him spend the money they've accumulated through sales and then maybe even spend some more.
Delap will be bouncing them balls of Crouchies head haha
Lolwut?
So far City's(who I assume you're aluding to) transfer income has exceeded it's expenditure and is no where near what United and Liverpool have spent so far.
In other word hypocritical haters be hating.
I'm not sure how accurate this is, however I did find it quite interesting reading.
Not being a supporter of a premiership side I cant really say how true this is, as tbh, I dont tend to pay that much attention to most of the clubs, however it shows an awful lot of money spent by City (if its true)
My comment that you responded too wasnt aimed at just City, and certainly not for just this years expenditure, its for the constant spending over a sustained period, without appearing to recoup much of that expenditure.
http://www.transferleague.co.uk/league-tables/2006-2011.html
Anyway, as I said, it was just an interesting read for me :)
AaronWHUFC
26-07-11, 23:55
Yeah Downing was expensive really.
But i dont think N'Zogbia will do well at Villa though, he'll have to do everything himself then set Bent up.
They've sold all there good players, just left with average now really.
They were 9th last season and will be about that again i reckon.
That's pretty much what he's been doing at Wigan for the past however many years.
Young going shouldn't affect him or Albrighton at all to be honest.
City agree fee of £35m for Aguero, he's due in today for talks.
Liverpool close to getting Alvaro Perreira from Porto (fee supposed to be around £17m)
Nzogbia to sign for Villa within next 48hrs
Birmingham looking like they could go into Administration. If so, they'll sell their best players and lose Europa League spot which would then go to Liverpool - a bit down the line yet, but you never know. Same thing happened to Mallorca last season when they went bust.
There's still some big business to be done in the coming weeks. I think Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs, the scum and Liverpool have still to do some wheeling and dealing before the window closes.
Its worrying that clubs can be allowed to just keep buying players.
At the other end of the scale, Crawley did it lasy year in January buying players that their competition were interested in to stop them bolstering their squads.
Come the close season, some have been released!
Spot on. Fleetwood did it the year they went up also. Anyone a rival was interested in, they snapped up, and they got splinters in their arses. Doesn't seem to be happening thus far this season though (thankfully!).
Liverpool close to getting Alvaro Perreira from Porto (fee supposed to be around £17m)
Liverpool need a good, natural left back. When Hull turned them over last week Insua played and looked woeful at times, unfortunately I think he's the only natural player in that position.
He's also put on some weight, probably too many Turkish delights...
Liverpool need a good, natural left back. When Hull turned them over last week Insua played and looked woeful at times, unfortunately I think he's the only natural player in that position.
He's also put on some weight, probably too many Turkish delights...
I've never been overly convinced with Insua, even when he had a run in the team a few seasons back under Benitez.
I'd love to see them go for someone like Baines or Cissokho, but the rumours of those two coming in have fizzled out recently, so I'm not too sure where we're heading now with the LB situation. We need to strengthen our defence. There's no doubt about that.
Be interesting to see how Aguero works out for City. Class player no doubt. If Tevez stays then the pair of them is a bit scary, if Tevez leaves the he has big boots to fill.
Hate to say it but I really see City mounting a challenge this season
niceguyrichy
27-07-11, 10:50
City agree fee of £35m for Aguero, he's due in today for talks
thought the release clause was fixed at £40m ?? :confused:
I'd love to see them go for someone like Baines or Cissokho
I doubt Baines would join Liverpool, being from Everton and all. But he is an exciting player to watch when he's on form.
niceguyrichy
27-07-11, 10:56
I doubt Baines would join Liverpool, being from Everton and all
i remember a balding Evertonian who swore blind that he'd never leave for one of their bitter rivals too...
can't put my finger on a name just now though
:P
i remember a balding Evertonian who swore blind that he'd never leave for one of their bitter rivals too...
can't put my finger on a name just now though
:P
I was thinking of someone but he has a full head of very natural hair :scratch
must be someone else :chuckle:
i remember a balding Evertonian who swore blind that he'd never leave for one of their bitter rivals too...
can't put my finger on a name just now though
:P
Ahah. Rooney's a :censored: though :D Moyes and Ferguson seem to have a good relationship and they're always trading players. The rivalry between Man U and Everton doesn't seem to be as raw as it is between the two Merseyside clubs.
niceguyrichy
27-07-11, 11:14
I was thinking of someone but he has a full head of very natural hair :scratch
must be someone else :chuckle:
:lol:
I doubt Baines would join Liverpool, being from Everton and all. But he is an exciting player to watch when he's on form.
He started off at Liverpool as a Youth Player, so it wouldn't be such a transition for him...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leighton_Baines
He started off at Liverpool as a Youth Player, so it wouldn't be such a transition for him...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leighton_Baines
I didn't know that. Most of Liverpools greatest have been Evertonian fans (Fowler/Owen/Carragher/Rush/McManaman) so I guess this could work both ways?!
Aren't Everton a bit skint ? I think if a decent offer came in for Baines they would have to listen, probably would prefer it not to come from the red scouse though
Aren't Everton a bit skint ? I think if a decent offer came in for Baines they would have to listen, probably would prefer it not to come from the red scouse though
Nooooooo!
From what I have read Everton have spent the summer securing the contracts of all the players they want currently at Everton rather than buying anyone. Although it would have been nice to see at least one new player, a striker perhaps... :(
I think Rodwell will be going, Man U seem to want a defensive midfielder.
I think Rodwell will be going, Man U seem to want a defensive midfielder.
for 20mill, i wouldn't say no to that, might give us enough to buy 2 decent players
for 20mill, i wouldn't say no to that, might give us enough to buy 2 decent players
He's worth every penny too. With all the inflated business going on everywhere else I think that'd be a great deal for Man U.
Didnt fergie say his spending was done now?
Cue a big spend, but you know what I mean :)
A Ginger Sheep
29-07-11, 03:28
unlikely utd are finished when this has come from the very top
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14285602.stm
Yeah, they're after a creative midfield player too so I think it'll be "one more signing" at least.
Looks like Liverpools awful pre-season continues with Baros getting 2 goals against his former club with Elmander on the score sheet too.
3 goals conceded in every game so far, a cheeky £1 on liverpool going down at 500/1 worth it? :p
3 goals conceded in every game so far, a cheeky £1 on liverpool going down at 500/1 worth it? :p
they are the shadow of the team they were when they won their last champions league
they wont be top 4, i think their current signings will take 1-2 years to develop, probably a lifetime to be value for money also
watch Carroll get injured and be out for the majority of the season.
unlikely utd are finished when this has come from the very top
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14285602.stm
I think Fergie wants Sneijder but I doubt utd can afford him, expect Bebe mark II
3 goals conceded in every game so far, a cheeky £1 on liverpool going down at 500/1 worth it? :p
Ahah, I might just have a punt!
they are the shadow of the team they were when they won their last champions league
they wont be top 4, i think their current signings will take 1-2 years to develop, probably a lifetime to be value for money also
watch Carroll get injured and be out for the majority of the season.
Liverpool are fast becoming the new Newcastle - 'We're a big club, we are!' ;)
Liverpool are fast becoming the new Newcastle - 'We're a big club, we are!' ;)
haha your quite right!!!
joey barton to join Liverpool to be with his bezzie mate carroll, worth a punt!
A Ginger Sheep
29-07-11, 15:03
facepalm at these remarks based on liverpool getting beat with a majority reserve team on :rolleyes:
It hit home for me really when for ages they have been baiting Man Utd about the number of league titles they had won, but as soon as Utd did that it suddenly became European titles.
I wonder what will happen if Utd surpass that total? Number of wins against Burnley away? Most goals scored against Wrexham at home? :)
A Ginger Sheep
29-07-11, 15:06
im not feeding the troll there so i have to say, "i'm out"
im not feeding the troll there so i have to say, "i'm out"
Liverpool fan? haha sorry, Im not trying to slate the club or the majority of fans, however as a Darlo fan who rarely wins a game, let alone a trophy, I have experienced too many years of hearing Toon fans stating how big a club they are based on their support, thats lucky as at least its not their achievements.
Liverpool have won loads, but all too often now fans are quick to refer arguments to their history, but surely when you are talking to a supporter of Man Utd & Chelsea their recent history is enough to overshadow Liverpools history from 25 years ago.
Now, if you are talking to an Arsenal fan I could agree that comparing histories is fair enough as neither seems capable of winning something atm.
Ultimately, Ask a Liverpool fan if they would rather the history records were reversed if it meant they had the momentum Utd have and the majority would snap your hand off to seal the deal.
AaronWHUFC
29-07-11, 16:49
facepalm at these remarks based on liverpool getting beat with a majority reserve team on :rolleyes:
Against Hull?
Doni
Robinson
Carragher
Sánchez Ayala
Kelly
Rodríguez
Aquilani
Poulsen
Coady
Cole
Ngog
Was a pretty strong team :confused:
Against Hull?
Doni - Reina
Robinson - Johnson
Carragher - Carra
Sánchez Ayala - Skrtel
Kelly - Kelly
Rodríguez - Kuyt
Aquilani - Downing
Poulsen - Henderson/Meireles/Lucas
Coady - Gerrard
Cole - Suaraz
Ngog - Carroll
Was a pretty strong team :confused:
Red = A strong team.
:)
Red = A strong team.
:)
Yes, but that the team that played should still of been plenty strong enough to beat Hull.
AaronWHUFC
29-07-11, 18:46
Red = A strong team.
:)
Red = a stronger team.
The team that lined up against Hull were strong, no doubt about it.
facepalm at these remarks based on liverpool getting beat with a majority reserve team on :rolleyes:
Some of these "Red" players/first team players did line up against Hull. Carroll played 45 mins, as did Kuyt, Downing and Henderson.
i love Liverpool fans, they cant just accept they were beaten :P
you dont see us Everton fans complaining ;)
its not about the team your club puts out, its about the score at the end of the match, what ifs, and buts dont produce victories :)
i love Liverpool fans, they cant just accept they were beaten :P
you dont see us Everton fans complaining ;)
its not about the team your club puts out, its about the score at the end of the match, what ifs, and buts dont produce victories :)
Aye, Boro seemed to do the same the other day when Darlo beat them 4-2, when Sheffield FC (fantastic little club btw) beat us though we just said well done, they played really well, despite the fact we had a few youth players in the team.
Aye, Boro seemed to do the same the other day when Darlo beat them 4-2, when Sheffield FC (fantastic little club btw) beat us though we just said well done, they played really well, despite the fact we had a few youth players in the team.
itll be different in the Prem league....after all they are just pre season warm ups :D
itll be different in the Prem league....after all they are just pre season warm ups :D
Yeah, it's all about fitness.
I also found it amusing listening to people saying its all about getting their fitness up so the result was irrelevant, but then failing to mention that they started their pre-season a fortnight before us :)
We all know the result doesnt matter in the grand scheme of things, but its disrespectful to basically just make excuses.
A Ginger Sheep
30-07-11, 13:56
anyone who has played football manager will know a poor pre season = guaranteed title success :D
anyone who has played football manager will know a poor pre season = guaranteed title success :D
LOL :)
I also found it amusing listening to people saying its all about getting their fitness up so the result was irrelevant, but then failing to mention that they started their pre-season a fortnight before us :)
We all know the result doesnt matter in the grand scheme of things, but its disrespectful to basically just make excuses.
Yeah, I'll still be rubbing my mates face in it if we turn Newcastle over today... if it's a loss then it's definitely all about fitness :D
Cant see Liverpool in the top half let alone top four. Gerrard out as well.
Cant belueve Torres scored yesterday after malouda miss hit his shot.
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Cant see Liverpool in the top half let alone top four. Gerrard out as well.
Cant belueve Torres scored yesterday after malouda miss hit his shot.
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Someone told me it only took Torres 15 seconds to score?!
It did he was running towards goal and it sorta hit him and wrong footed keeper.
To be fair he did move his foot towards the ball.....
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We all know Torres is awesome, just took him a while is all.
Torres can be a very good player his downside is when things are going bad, it takes him so long to get going again. The season he left liverpool he was garbage this continued for chelsea.
If he plays properly this year he will be close to top scorer. He is a player i would not bet on cause of his incinsistencies.
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Definately mate. He wasnt worth the wages increase last year. One cracking goal against city and i think that was it. Would never put money on Rooney either.
Hernandes in the other hand is one to watch. I'm hoping that Rooney will look at Hernandes and take notes.
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Hopefully.
Should a good season.
Hoping for a gd season. Wasnt bad last year mind. Liverpools shocking start cost them. Chelsea stuttered after buying Torres.
Think City. Chelsea and utd will finish top just not sure what order lil
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A Ginger Sheep
31-07-11, 16:33
Cant see Liverpool in the top half let alone top four. Gerrard out as well.
you can be a utd fan without being retarded in what you say mate :rolleyes:
Just expressing an opinion based on results and performance. Are opinions not allowed?
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