MSI K8NGM2-FID sff mobo & loooong cat 5.

[pepsi_max2k]

Hey, finally got my mum to agree to buy a new pc this morning, and minutes later you'd sold out of the msi K8NGM2-FID socket 939 motherboard I was gonna get.

Any idea if these will be coming back in stock soon / at all? The only other place I can find with some is Dabs and a) they're more expensive, b) i just like aria better 8)

Oh and, you should really start selling bulk cat 5 cable without the rj45 connectors installed. I've been looking everywhere for some 80 to 100 meter length stuff, and few places have it. I mean, you've already got the cheapest price for RJ45 plugs and crimpers, and that includes ebay. Just need the cable :(

[Barley]

Any idea what lengh Cat5 can stretch to until you run the risk of lossing signal quality? I thought it was around 100m, not sure though.

If so, you could just pop a hub between two 50m bits of cable :P

[pepsi_max2k]

I think it's 90m for cat 5, 5e might be different, and i'm not really sure about either...

And even 50m ain't available anywhere, longest i've seen for sale (other than the ccl cable only stuff) is 30m. But I really wanted some long stuff to make a load of shorter 20m - 35m ones, figured buying a load of really long stuff and crimping rj45 connectors onto it would be cheaper than anything else.

[Belso]

[quote:af11fd29fc=\"pepsi_max2k\"]figured buying a load of really long stuff and crimping rj45 connectors onto it would be cheaper than anything else.[/quote:af11fd29fc]

That the way we do it at work mate. Can get a little fustrating though

[pepsi_max2k]

[quote:ca5d704fbd=\"Belso\"]That the way we do it at work mate. Can get a little fustrating though[/quote:ca5d704fbd]

where do you get your cable from?

[David]

Until recently we had 300m rolls of CAT5e but it didn't exactly fly off the shelves...

[Belso]

[quote:9282a29755=\"pepsi_max2k\"][quote:9282a29755=\"Belso\"]That the way we do it at work mate. Can get a little fustrating though[/quote:9282a29755]

where do you get your cable from?[/quote:9282a29755]

A competitor, so i best pm you it :wink:

[matt_2k34]

Making your own cables is the easiest way - might be worth investing in a cable tester- makes it much easier as the plugs can be abit fiddly...

and sat with a metre on each end is abit tedious at the best of times, with a designated tester you know the contacts are all touching ;)


yes i think the maximum range on the cabling is 100m, but i think it depends on the quality of the cable your using..


most ive ever seen sold is 100m, but it was very expensive :) the rolls and crimps were cheaper :)


and aria - if you had some and it sold just not fast- why didnt you sell it with a \"Lead time\" like you do the most expensive products ????

this way your not losing customers OR leaving money stored away in stock.


dont bother with cat 6 - waste of time, :) cat5e runs gigalan fine and the length shouldnt really matter- unless your house is the size of a football pitch :)


*edit* if you dont want to make it yourself - (can take a while to get them working properly ;) ) you can buy little boxes that let you \"patch\" more than one cable together... each end just plugs into this little cube- no \"significant\" loss as its just copper wires \"crossing over\"... best thing i bought for £1 :p

[m0nk3y]

Hi All,

Matt is right... the thing used to join two network cables together is called a coupler, you can buy one here...

http://www.aria.co.uk/ProductsList.asp?Name=CON-RJ45C

Always useful to have in the bottom of yer rucksack if you work with networks or go to LAN parties.

As for the Network cable, we used to sell 306m of Cat5e for £29.95 very well, but with the soaring price of metals recently, they have become very difficult to source in such lengths and we decided not to sell until the prices are stable, sorry :(

The MSI K8NGM2-FID Socket 939 is on back order with a supplier, will push hard to get them in stock for tomorrow/Thursday :)

[Firerat]

[quote:30c8b276be=\"matt_2k34\"]if you dont want to make it yourself - (can take a while to get them working properly ;) ) you can buy little boxes that let you \"patch\" more than one cable together... each end just plugs into this little cube- no \"significant\" loss as its just copper wires \"crossing over\"... best thing i bought for £1 :p[/quote:30c8b276be]

I think they are called Keystone Jacks, they come as part of the Home Network Cabling Kit, we errm used to stock , not sure why we don't stock that anymore !


RJ45 WALL SOCKET cat 5E (SINGLE) (http://www.aria.co.uk/ProductInfoComm.asp?ID=539)
Keeps it nice and Simple, just need short Patch Cable at each end

[pepsi_max2k]

>>will push hard to get [K8NGM2-FID] in stock for tomorrow/Thursday

i LOVE aria :D :D

>>306m of Cat5e for £29.95

yep. i deffinately love love love you guys. that is some cheap cat5. shame you ain't got any anymore, i'd snap that up right away.


and yes, i know about couplers, plan on getting a couple from you lot along with the mobo, it's just buying two middleish pre-crimped cables and joining em together is still more expensive than some really long stuff and cutting it to the right length in the long term. i'd mainly use them just to combine any random cables i find lying around to get a bit more reach from them.

@firerat, i ain't planning on re-wiring any houses or anything :lol: just sorting out a parent who's paranoid about wireless connections being packet sniffed (unfortunately she don't actually know what that is so it's hard to explain how unlikely it is...) :roll:

[matt_2k34]

not very pepsi :) wep isnt that great keeps your average joe out tho :)

but if you dont have it on you dont want to live on a street with lots of traffic- you might find people outside on PSPs or laptops in their car :)



who would do that tho - its theft :roll: :D still gotta give em credit for tryin eh?

:wink: also wired is alot more stable i find :) and no bottlenecks over the network :) each computer is the bottleneck :wink:

[pepsi_max2k]

@ someone from aria -

any clue on what's up with the K8NGM2-FID in the bargain basement? it just says \"refurbished, incomplete\" - if it was just the box that'd been opened or a few ide cables missing then i'd be interested...

[m0nk3y]

ee, Bargain Basement going though a bit of a re-shuffle... Cant really take a look.

New stock is due in today though! Not sure how busy warehouse is though, can take a day for them to book a days deliverys in on some occasions :cry: busy busy busy

[pepsi_max2k]

cheers aria, just ordered one + everything to make some network cables - the actual cable (found somewhere else with 100m for not too much, and a cheap BenQ DW1650, which i would also put on a wishlist if it wasn't gonna be much more expensive than the Pioneer DVR-111D (or a DW1655, either's good).

and there's already only 3 of the K8NGM2-FID boards left, so if anyone else wants one, hurry up and buy it, i can virtually guarantee you wont find it cheaper in the uk 8)

[pepsi_max2k]

just wanted to thankyou for getting everything to me in good time / condition. built the system a couple weeks ago and it's running great. i'm currently trying to troublshoot the dw1650 dvdrw drive i got elsewhere as it intermittently refuses to read dvds. note to self, always shop at aria 8)

oh, and if anyone wants a long length of cat 5 (anything up to 80m, crimped or uncrimped) then lemme know as i've got plenty left :roll: