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wonderlust
24-06-08, 11:28
Well there's an interesting question...
Answered my Tomshardware yesterday! :D
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/computer-price-performance,1956.html
In the conclusion they sum up that 2 x gx2s aren't successfull at this time
Well there's an interesting question...
Answered my Tomshardware yesterday! :D
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/computer-price-performance,1956.html
In the conclusion they sum up that 2 x gx2s aren't successfull at this time
Eh?
wonderlust
24-06-08, 15:12
it would appear that I miss read the question :redface:
Been looking at some benchies and it appears x1 4850 which is £300 cheaper can almost compete with a gtx 280.
imagine x2 4850's!! oooooooooooooh, or even a 4870!!!
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/amdradeonhd4850preview_061908005229/17119.png
wonderlust
24-06-08, 17:18
Apparently ATI has removed the restrictions and you will start to see some 3850 OC cards coming out very soon
Been looking at some benchies and it appears x1 4850 which is £300 cheaper can almost compete with a gtx 280.
imagine x2 4850's!! oooooooooooooh, or even a 4870!!!
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/amdradeonhd4850preview_061908005229/17119.png
going off the scores on that chart the 4850x2 will be about the same as the gtx260 :D
going off the scores on that chart the 4850x2 will be about the same as the gtx260 :D
You mean 280?
Just a little off topic, Lynx explained to me that the 4850 is cheaper and better than the 9800gtx...
What would you people recommend?
PeterStoba
01-07-08, 16:21
LOL
You just said Lynx explained the 4850 is cheaper and better then asked what to get...
Think he is after a 2nd opinion. If I had a crossfire mobo then I would look at two 4850's over a 9800GTX.
LOL
You just said Lynx explained the 4850 is cheaper and better then asked what to get...
Fool, like i said... "What do you people recommend?"
I wanna know is it really faster? And are the visuals better?
Bearing in mind i design games
I do think that the graphic quality is higher on ATI cards, but they are closer lately. I do still think ATI have the edge though, with more performance.
Hmmmm....
Does everyone agree that the 4850 out performs the 9800gtx?
Answer yay or nay
PeterStoba
01-07-08, 18:00
Fool, like i said... "What do you people recommend?"
I wanna know is it really faster? And are the visuals better?
Bearing in mind i design games
Google is your friend.
You design games? flash games?
yeah i design flash games.... :|
No im actually working on a game a little like gta, but in an rpg style
I use 3ds max
A3D studio
AI implant
photoshop
oh and notepad
PeterStoba
01-07-08, 19:03
So your creating a game, but don't know about new hardware? that's not very clever
But yeah, read some reviews and you will see the 4850 wins
i know about hardware, i was just asking opinions
Ive not built a pc in about 3 years so i dont know loads about new hardware
yea, shocker that the brand new ati card beats the 10 month old nvidia 1 isnt it.
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=580&type=expert&pid=3
that shows about how close these cards (88gt/gts 98gtx/+ 4850) really are, price is the thing you want to watch for as you will find them all on offer somewhere. what that doesnt say is about folding tho, nvidia has the lead in this market by quiet some way, like priced nv cards are doing about twice as much as the ati equivalent.
lynx stop being such a fanboi ffs, its looking like another round where ati will need 2 gpu cores on 1 board to compete/beat nvidias 1 fast core again, its not a great time to be ati m8
Two cores scale better than one big core, two cooler cores are smaller than one big core. The yields on the GTX are 40%, yup 40% thats terrible. Its worse to be a nvidia guy considering how much amd cut into their margins with fast cheap gpus. IM not a fanboi, and i will recomend a better card if thats case, but a HD 4850 is cheaper and faster its just math.
It doesn't matter that the HD 4800's perform how they do when they are priced like they are. Fact of the matter is, a single HD 4870 is generally on par with the more expensive GTX 260 and two HD 4870's in Crossfire will perform as well as a GTX 280 for less. Of course, Crossfire scaling will depend on the game but if it works on the games that I play, I honestly couldn't care that I'm using two cards to get the same framerates as one faster card so long as it costed me less.
There's still no disputing that the GTX 260 and 280 are priced ludicrously for what they are.
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3341
Is one review to consider. No review is gospel but anandtech are more thorough than most and are rarely proven to be biased.
4850/4870 far less heat than a GTX260/280, FAR better priced. Performance on par, some better some worse depending on benchmarks.
For the first time ever i'm considering an ATI card!! :)
psychochief
04-07-08, 18:00
DAMMIT is gonna kick nvidia all over the block, its common knowledge (no thanks to graphzilla) that, the money cow affectionately known as nvidia has been useing tweeked beta drivers to use the physix engine to offload work to the CPU in GPU only benches, thats why Vantage wont authenticate graphzilla's scores until they use certified drivers :eek: apart from having to remortgauge to buy um and pay the extra leccy bill ;)
/psychochief legs it whilst trying to put on his foil suit and hat :rolleyes:
Things however have got a little more interesting now that nVidia has sacked the price skimming and have gone for a more sensible set of prices with the GTX 260 at around £205 and the GTX 280 at £300. Certain brands have appeared at this price right away while others will fall to a similar region in the next month or so. ATi's pricing is still competitive though but now it isn't all that stupid to consider a GTX 200 card.
psychochief
05-07-08, 11:32
there ya go folks, hot off the press, you saw it here first lol :- http://tinyurl.com/69kklm :mrgreen:
it makes very interesting reading :cool:
Good find Psychochief. Shows that for most of the part, the HD 4870 is a tad quicker or at least par, with a few cases in super high reso's where it loses out by a fair amount. The GTX 260's recent price drop makes it a reasonable purchase at around £205-220 but really, the HD 4870 still gets the value for money crown where it's priced at around £175.
Lee Van Cleef
05-07-08, 13:32
That's it, I'm going 4870.
Good choice, seems ATI is getting back in the game!
Sim
my 9800gtx cost £100 :lol: so i think i got a great deal on price/performance
PeterStoba
05-07-08, 21:52
Zotac stock clock one?
my 9800gtx cost £100 :lol: so i think i got a great deal on price/performance
£100 sounds about right for the 9800GTX in my opinion, when the Radeon HD 4850 is around £115 now and generally is a tad quicker.
PeterStoba
06-07-08, 11:10
He got it from the US
I couldn't ignore the performance of the 9800GX2 when I went for my upgrade.
I paid ~£250 for my BFG 9800GX2 - it's absolutely awesome!
If your budget is a little tigher the ATi's are definitely an awesome option.
Sean actually has a point. While the 9800GX2 relies on an internal SLI connection so performance isn't as consistent as a GTX 2xx card throughout the board for example, it actually keeps up very well and they're beginning to drop towards the £220-230 mark.
PeterStoba
06-07-08, 12:53
I'd go for a 260 over a 9800GX2 any day
I'd go for a 260 over a 9800GX2 any day
Why!
At the lower resolutions, the SLi of the 9800GX2 will suffer more but if I rememeber rightly still beats the 260.
The only real advantage you would gain would be that games unoptimised for SLi (older or poorly developed games) would run faster.
PeterStoba
06-07-08, 13:08
Bragging rights :P
If I were to be honest, I still struggle to consider the GTX 260 a good card. Well, it's good but it doesn't stand out at all to me. The locked down ROP's/Streams and a cut down Memory interface really seems to make it a considerably slower card than the 280. Meanwhile the HD 4870 generally competes with it and is even faster in some cases despite having less available Vram and to top it off, the HD 4870 is a fair amount cheaper.
The 9800GX2 performs surprisingly well against the GTX 280, if I recall correctly from reviews and they are getting cheaper. Can't say I'd buy one but it's still a worthy card.
The 9800GX2 performs surprisingly well against the GTX 280, if I recall correctly from reviews and they are getting cheaper. Can't say I'd buy one but it's still a worthy card.
In the majority of cases the 9800GX2 wipes the floor with the 280.
I really can't see a case for anyone buying a 280, the exception being those who have 17"-19" monitors where SLi would just be foolish.
Yeah, it would appear as though the 9800GX2 does pull ahead in higher resolutions. Quite rightfully so considering this generation isn't anywhere near the 2x performance jump we saw from the GeForce 7900GTX to the 8800GTX.
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