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inspirevideo
28-03-11, 01:22
I am about to build a new system for editing and have been looking at P67 mobo with an overclocked i7 2600k. Other retailers I have noticed use this option for their systems built for editing but the Gladiator Motion NLE which is around the budget I'm looking uses H67.
I know P67 is for overclocking and H67 uses i7 integrated graphics so which is better for editing? I edit mainly AVCHD in Adobe Premiere and use Nvidia GPU for their mercury playback engine.
Overclock vs integrated graphics?
Although I don't have any great experience in video editing, I would say the H67 chipset is the one for you.
I know the H67 board features the HD3000 graphics, which is optimised for decoding/encoding video using what Intel call Quick Sync.
Quick Sync Benchmark Link (http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/sandy-bridge-core-i7-2600k-core-i5-2500k,review-32090-5.html)
And for reference, here's what overclocking did to transcoding times:
Sandy Bridge Video Transcoding (3rd diagram down AVC/HD) (http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/sandy-bridge-overclocking-efficiency,review-32107-6.html)
If I was in your shoes I'd got for the H67 board. 1080i into H.264 in half the time an expensive dedicated graphics can do? Yes please.
redrooster303
28-03-11, 03:14
Although I don't have any great experience in video editing, I would say the H67 chipset is the one for you.
I know the H67 board features the HD3000 graphics, which is optimised for decoding/encoding video using what Intel call Quick Sync.
Quick Sync Benchmark Link (http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/sandy-bridge-core-i7-2600k-core-i5-2500k,review-32090-5.html)
And for reference, here's what overclocking did to transcoding times:
Sandy Bridge Video Transcoding (3rd diagram down AVC/HD) (http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/sandy-bridge-overclocking-efficiency,review-32107-6.html)
If I was in your shoes I'd got for the H67 board. 1080i into H.264 in half the time an expensive dedicated graphics can do? Yes please.
The H67 board doesn't feature the HD3000 graphics it only uses the HD3000 graphics chip (found on the Sandy Bridge CPUs) whereas p67 doesn't.
P67 is for overclocking and doesn't let you use the integrated graphics chips. H67 doesn't let you overclock but does let you use the integrated graphics chip and quick sync.
The graphics chips are on the cpu and depending on which chip you buy there are two versions of integrated chip on the sandy bridge platform.
The i7 2600k and i5 2500k chips feature the HD3000 iGPU which has double the power of the HD2000 which is found on the non K versions of the i5 and i7.
I know very little about editing but do know that quick sync is good at it so if you were buying now you should either go:
H67 with either a i7 2600k or an i5 2500k (the i7 2600k has hyper threading which makes four more virtual cores/threads so its abit like it has 8 cores instead of four)
Or
P67 with an i7 2600k or i5 2500k and overclock it and then get another gpu to go with it.
Or
Wait for Z68 which will allow you to overclock and use the integrated graphics. It won't be out for a couple of months though.
There are certain Nvidia cards that are designed for editing and use the adobe premiere editing suite/app very well (I think its the GTX470 and a few more cards).
Someone that knows more about editing software will probably post sooner or later that can tell you exactly which cards chips are best.:)
I linked some comparisons in your original thread http://forums.aria.co.uk/showthread.php?t=55513
Were these not conclusive ?
inspirevideo
28-03-11, 12:05
Sorry spcaeboy I hope I didn't offend you! The links were great but one thing that wasn't properly answered was overclock i7 vs integrated graphics i7, the fact that some companies use just p67 for their editing builds but aria use just h67 on the non extreme cpu builds just made me more confused!
Thanks redrooster303 for throwing the Z68 into the mix, if it were out now without a doubt that is what I would go for and get all the benefits sandybridge has to offer. I really wanted to get this built before may as I have 5 weddings to shoot that month and it would have been great to fire through editing and exporting them much faster. I just finished a wedding and will be exporting it for a third time now with some minor changes the couple requested (second time was because of mistake I made knocking 4 tiny clips out of sync and didn't notice) they each take over 18 hours. Every clip has colour correction to lift the contrast and almost all the later stuff has a video noise reduction filter applied which really grinds things to a halt but is well worth it for the results).
So basically I think it would make most sense to wait a month or so until May when it seems the Z68 will be released.
Thanks everyone for your help and sorry for posting so much about it, its so important to me that I do it right and get the best performance possible as my work speed depends on it! Time = money!
Themanhunt
28-03-11, 13:35
The 2500k has HD3000
The 2600k has HD2000
The 2600k has HD3000, at least every review/statistic ive read states 2500k and 2600k have HD3000 and everything else has HD2000
The 2500k has HD3000
The 2600k has HD2000
Overclocked i7 > Onboard decoder,
I dont even have to think about this, and since premiere wont even use the onboard graphics decoding, it would be a waste of a potential overclock and power boost.
2600K has 2000
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2011/01/03/intel-sandy-bridge-review/4
The Intel HD Graphics 2000 has six execution units while the HD Graphics 3000 unit of K-series CPUs has 12 execution units. You have to use an H67 motherboard to activate the PG of a Sandy Bridge CPU.2600K definitely has HD3000 :thumb:
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