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Lisa
17-03-11, 14:48
Just a pic of the stuff that's arrived so far. It's all the main bits, just waiting on the ssd and some tie wraps etc.

And, I even bought myself something!.........


Components first:

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Couldn't resist (I love Me to You stuff):

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Lisa
17-03-11, 15:30
Just had a nosey at the graphics card. It's absolutely huge! how the heck is that ever going to stay in the pci-e port?

Reading dimensions on an internet page is one thing, but seeing it in person is definately something else.

Smifis
17-03-11, 15:30
Well you do have two screws to hold it there :)

alexnifty
17-03-11, 16:20
You'll be surprised what a mobo can handle . Case should take most of the weight once you have it screwed in anyway.

Good luck, have fun, go slow, photograph everything :)

Lisa
17-03-11, 16:35
Well you do have two screws to hold it there :)

Three. It's a triple slot. :eek:

AbandonedT
17-03-11, 16:45
Just had a nosey at the graphics card. It's absolutely huge! how the heck is that ever going to stay in the pci-e port?

Reading dimensions on an internet page is one thing, but seeing it in person is definately something else.

That's a beast of a card!

Any particular reason you didn't go the route of the prebuilt o/ced mobo bundles?

slater
17-03-11, 16:49
Nice build, are you overclocking?

Lisa
17-03-11, 17:13
That's a beast of a card!

Any particular reason you didn't go the route of the prebuilt o/ced mobo bundles?

Yup, want to do it all myself so I can say to him that I did. :D


Nice build, are you overclocking?

Thanks, I'm definately considering it but will see how the build goes first.

coiler
17-03-11, 17:19
pic of the card in the flesh!

Lisa
17-03-11, 17:45
pic of the card in the flesh!

For a sense of scale I put my Dell Streak under it.

Then take into account it's a triple slot.

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blazevxi
17-03-11, 17:50
Fingerprint heaven on the streak there!

Lisa
17-03-11, 17:52
Fingerprint heaven on the streak there!

Hence the name, I think Dell knew......:p

The scary thing is I very nearly splurged on the GTX 580 version of the same card. I dread to think how big that would have been. The shroud is metal too. It's a very heavy card.

TheMadDutchDude
17-03-11, 17:52
Fingerprint heaven on the streak there!

You should see my phone. Touch screens are the way forward but they're so difficult to keep clean! You give up after a while...:rolleyes:

Lisa
17-03-11, 18:04
Just a question. If I understand it correctly psu's are earthed right? So if I...err...forgot to order an anti-static wrist strap then couldn't I just keep touching the psu as I think that will be the first thing I put in the case.

If I'm off base here could someone let me know? Thanks.:D

Pancake
17-03-11, 18:08
Anti Static wrist bands PHAIL, just dont rub a balloon on your head before you build it.

captainpsteel
17-03-11, 18:23
I don't usually find static a problem I've taken my PC apart and rebuilt it many times without a problem. If you are still worried sit with your foot against a radiator (make sure it is off)

TheMadDutchDude
17-03-11, 18:32
I don't usually find static a problem I've taken my PC apart and rebuilt it many times without a problem. If you are still worried sit with your foot against a radiator (make sure it is off)

No need really. I've never earthed myself and I've yet to have a problem. Built a PC in a room with a carpet flooring. It's still running to this day.

Smifis
17-03-11, 18:36
exactly, anti-static is over rated, it's just takes common sense.

Some (obvious) rules to follow:
- No break dancing in your wolly socks on the kitchen floor.
- dont shuffly you feet
- dont blow up ballons
- dont rub them on your head (thanks sean)
- resist the urge to lick your hardware.

Pancake
17-03-11, 18:37
exactly, anti-static is over rated, it's just takes common sense.

Some (obvious) rules to follow:
- No break dancing in your wolly socks on the kitchen floor.
- dont shuffly you feet
- dont blow up ballons
- dont rub them on your head (thanks sean)
- resist the urge to lick your hardware.

I failed then :(

enemyofsauron
17-03-11, 18:42
Ive never had a problem with static either and I never use an anti static wrist band. Beast of a card you've got there, you may have to tie it on ! :p. Seriously though, good luck with your build, Im so glad I built my own from scratch as it gives you an immense sense of accomplishment :thumb:

Lisa
17-03-11, 19:08
Ok, thanks all of you. That was my main worry. :thumb:

I've just unpacked the case. The card is going to look tiny in it! it's a really fat case isn't it.

cruciate
17-03-11, 19:14
I periodically touch a radiator, and have not had a single static episode. So don't worry.
Had to laugh at the me to you photos on a tech forum. No one else would get away with that you know. If coiler posted anything like that, or BigIan, they would lose admin status (and all respect) in seconds.
The goods look great BTW

pobbrett
17-03-11, 19:15
you could make a hat, shoes and gloves out of all the anti-static bags (reduce re-use recycle) :)

Lisa
17-03-11, 19:21
I periodically touch a radiator, and have not had a single static episode. So don't worry.
Had to laugh at the me to you photos on a tech forum. No one else would get away with that you know. If coiler posted anything like that, or BigIan, they would lose admin status (and all respect) in seconds.
The goods look great BTW

They were for a netbook though. I doubt very much if a fella calling himself 'BigIan' would ever post such a thing! Not so sure about Coiler though.......:D

I also got a pink external dvd writer and put some more me to you stickers on that! :p

Ok, thanks for all the posts folks. Just going to get the psu in the case now. I'm just selecting which cables I'll need first as I won't need them all.

Smifis
17-03-11, 19:24
BigIans a big softie! Dont let his name or size doubt that fact any second. :D

Enough with the stickers though! I'm about to cry.

So how you opened anything else up yet?

Lisa
17-03-11, 20:00
I've just noticed how tired I am so I'm going to leave the pc for tonight and just chill out.

Pretty much opened everything for a nosey now. Can't get over how big everything is.

Spaceboy
17-03-11, 20:12
See? Size is important :D

Joking aside, when building PC's I always install the PSU, plug it in to the wall and turn it off! That way, the case is grounded and just touching the case will ground you as well - greatly reducing any static risk :)

Loving the pics so far :thumb:

Lisa
17-03-11, 20:15
See? Size is important :D

Joking aside, when building PC's I always install the PSU, plug it in to the wall and turn it off! That way, the case is grounded and just touching the case will ground you as well - greatly reducing any static risk :)

Loving the pics so far :thumb:

It's not the size of the ship it's the motion of the ocean, Spaceboy;)

Thanks for the tip regarding the psu though! You look after me you lot don't you. Awesome group of people.xxxx

UrKo
17-03-11, 20:44
I've never had any static issues. Built a number of pc's and completed laptop repairs. Just use common sense Lisa. Cant wait to see the finished article.

TheMadDutchDude
17-03-11, 21:02
Cant wait to see the finished article.

+1 to that! Come on Lisa, we want PICS! :)

Pancake
17-03-11, 21:03
+1 to that! Come on Lisa, we want PICS! :)

Could do with some of the PC too!

(Sorry if that was ott)

Lisa
17-03-11, 22:58
Could do with some of the PC too!

(Sorry if that was ott)

It made me chuckle, not ott at all. xx

I have some pics. Alex told me to take pics of everything so what i've decided to do is take pics of each component when boxed, unboxed and then installed. If it gets a bit too much for you please let me know I just want to give back for the time you've given to me. Haven't got very far tonight, just the psu.

Right side panel:
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/1949/backofcase.jpg (http://img233.imageshack.us/i/backofcase.jpg/)
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Psu boxed:
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Psu open:
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/9096/psuinbox.jpg (http://img33.imageshack.us/i/psuinbox.jpg/)
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Psu out:
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Psu installed/Case inner:
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Loving the brackets that hold the psu along with rails and screws. Very secure:
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/7596/bottompsulip.jpg (http://img141.imageshack.us/i/bottompsulip.jpg/)
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Shocked by how big the case is:
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On a serious note, check the right standoff-it's fine right. But check the left standoff, it has a pin or something welded/glued in there. Is that safe to mount the motherboard on? Nothing in the manual:
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/103/standoffs.jpg (http://img218.imageshack.us/i/standoffs.jpg/)
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youngTY
17-03-11, 23:08
The graphics card is good :) I was at one point considering buying the same card, but went with a ATI XFX 6850 instead :P Good luck with the build!

Sniperdude
17-03-11, 23:11
It made me chuckle, not ott at all. xx

I have some pics. Alex told me to take pics of everything so what i've decided to do is take pics of each component when boxed, unboxed and then installed. If it gets a bit too much for you please let me know I just want to give back for the time you've given to me. Haven't got very far tonight, just the psu.

Right side panel:
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/1949/backofcase.jpg (http://img233.imageshack.us/i/backofcase.jpg/)
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Psu boxed:
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Psu open:
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/9096/psuinbox.jpg (http://img33.imageshack.us/i/psuinbox.jpg/)
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Psu out:
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Psu installed/Case inner:
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Loving the brackets that hold the psu along with rails and screws. Very secure:
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/7596/bottompsulip.jpg (http://img141.imageshack.us/i/bottompsulip.jpg/)
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Shocked by how big the case is:
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On a serious note, check the right standoff-it's fine right. But check the left standoff, it has a pin or something welded/glued in there. Is that safe to mount the motherboard on? Nothing in the manual:
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/103/standoffs.jpg (http://img218.imageshack.us/i/standoffs.jpg/)
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I would think that stand off dont need a screw and it will be fine as is.

just looked at a review with photos of a build and they used it as is

Brains1969
18-03-11, 08:09
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/103/standoffs.jpg (http://img218.imageshack.us/i/standoffs.jpg/)

It's to help align the Motherboard (like a guide). We get them in our high end Coolermaster Cases (HAF's etc) :thumb:

Lisa
18-03-11, 09:16
Thanks Sniperdude and thanks again Brains! xxxx :D

Lisa
18-03-11, 09:36
Just a quick update (again, if there's too many pics please let me know:)):

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For the hdd's as each cage fits 3 and I've bought 3 I figured I'd remove the cages from directly in front of the intake fan and just use one cage installed toward the psu. I'm going to put the ssd in the bottom slot, the 'archive' 2tb hdd in the middle slot and the 'game/applications' 1tb hdd in the top slot. I've done this because hot air rises and the 1tb will be used the most and the ssd won't get very warm regardless of usage. I realise the ssd is out of the direct airflow but it shouldn't matter methinks.

This sound ok?

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In the bottom pic you can see where i've removed the two cages.

Still waiting on the ssd, my brother forwarded an E-mail advising it had been despatched so hopefully today.

Lastly (sorry) The motherboard didn't come with any stand off screws so I figured they were packaged with the case. I've found some that look like they fit but i'm not sure and the instruction booklet (I say booklet but it's a folded bit of paper) is useless. Would standoff screws normally come with the case?

AbandonedT
18-03-11, 09:45
Looking good so far Lisa! Well done.

coiler
18-03-11, 09:46
monkey pic = win

Lorem-Ipsum
18-03-11, 09:57
Would standoff screws normally come with the case?

Yes usually. You normally get a few packets with screws for hard drives and cd drives etc... and they should be in one of those packets.

Lisa
18-03-11, 09:59
Looking good so far Lisa! Well done.

Thanks AbandonedT, I'm rather enjoying myself. :thumb:

Thanks Coiler, Gus (the Gorilla) is ace!! :D

Some more good news:D. Just received confirmation we've been accepted again to adopt a 3 month old puppy that was abused (:mad:).

Gonna go and get her tomorrow. Not looking forward to that in one way as I hate seeing all the pups/dogs there. I would take them all home if I could. :cryxx

We've got it all organised so she won't be left alone at all during any part of the day as this breed can suffer really badly from separation anxiety, and with this one coming from an abusive household it would probably be worse. I've got the next month off work to settle her in and socialise her with people that will be looking after her. Just hope she doesn't chew my cables!:thumb::D


Yes usually. You normally get a few packets with screws for hard drives and cd drives etc... and they should be in one of those packets.

Thank you! xx

BeeP
18-03-11, 10:10
Looking good so far, some cracking gear there.

Stand offs should come with the case, sometimes they are already installed, not often though. most times they are in a little bag along with the rest of the screws, if you don't have them COMPLAIN!!!!!!

Static, as has been said it's a bit of an overblown subject. Never have & never will use a wrist strap......Unless I fry something lol ;)

Oh nice DVD drive, just fitted one into my Raven & it's mega quiet burning CD's.

coiler
18-03-11, 10:31
i've never used a static wrist strap, used to build cheapo £200 systems, built over 300 and never had an issue with static. I just touch a radiator if i've been walking around/making a brew etc

BeeP
18-03-11, 11:10
I normally rub my hands on the carpet & do some moon walking whilst rubbing a balloon on my head , I like to live on the edge.

Lisa
18-03-11, 11:11
Thanks all.

Just installed the motherboard. :D:thumb:

It's popped right in, took about 2 minutes from start to finish including screwing.

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A bit of a worry though, in the last pic you can see the slot blanks are extremely close (if not touching) the motherboard. Should I be worried?

If you follow the end of the blanks you'll see 4 white dashes but the prongs on the blanks extend a couple of mm further in toward the motherboard. Just checked again and 2 of them are actually touching the motherboard.:confused:

I realise it's a crap photo so if you need me to try it again please let me know.xx

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Josh
18-03-11, 11:13
Can't really see anything in the last picture, sorry. :(

Lisa
18-03-11, 11:47
I've sorted it! :D

Stripped the motherboard out and had a close look and it turned out I hadn't pushed the IO backplate cover thingy far enough through on one side, it was only about a mm! The motherboard still went in like butter though:confused:

Anyway, in the following pic of the blanks you can see on the left of the pic there's a wide prong that exits out the rear of the case and it's slightly narrower than the rest of the blank. this is because there's two further, narrower, prongs that stick out inside the case toward the motherboard. 5 of the 7 blanks were touching it. The P8P67 isn't one of those 'bigger than atx but still classed as atx' boards is it?

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I've just replaced these with the blanks from the Lian Li case upstairs as these are perfectly flat the entire length and there's now a couple of mm space between them and the motherboard. Look at me! the modder!!

I realise it's something you guys would have figured out in 5 seconds but I can't help feeling quietly proud of myself.:thumb:

Josh
18-03-11, 11:48
:) Moar pics :D

Lisa
18-03-11, 12:13
:) Moar pics :D

My camera's crap. Or is it just me who can't take a decent pic? :D

Anyway

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The front and top 200mm fan's both extend the full width of the interior. So the back of the motherboard and motherboard tray is also going to be getting active cooling.

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Ram installed.

Can I install the gpu now or wait until I've installed the H70? If I'm doing the H70 first then I've gone as far as I can go because the AS5 T.I.M hasn't arrived yet.

Josh
18-03-11, 12:20
I'd do the H70 first. - You could rig up your wiring though like front panel connections etc and play around with cable management?

Brains1969
18-03-11, 12:26
:thumb:There's no need for thermal paste on the H70 as it comes pre-applied (we never remove it when building our systems) so you could install the cooler now.

Remember to apply the double sided sticky pads to the backplate before attaching to the Motherboard and only lightly attach the pump bracket as you will need to twist the pump into place later.

Looking very good so far by the way :thumb:

Lisa
18-03-11, 12:48
:thumb:There's no need for thermal paste on the H70 as it comes pre-applied (we never remove it when building our systems) so you could install the cooler now.

Remember to apply the double sided sticky pads to the backplate before attaching to the Motherboard and only lightly attach the pump bracket as you will need to twist the pump into place later.

Looking very good so far by the way :thumb:

Thanks Brains! xx

Well, thats poo. I got the AS5 because you said you used it on all your systems. Got some T.I.M remover too so i could remove the stuff pre-installed on the H70 and replace it with the AS5.

Nevermind though at least I know the stuff on the H70 is decent then.

xxxx:D

Lisa
18-03-11, 12:51
I'd do the H70 first. - You could rig up your wiring though like front panel connections etc and play around with cable management?

Nice idea Josh, just started doing that.

Not so sure about the usb 3.0 ports included on a backplate with the motherboard though, as the wire is too short to be managed. It has to be left in the front of the motherboard and looks a bit unsightly. He'll still have a couple on the IO thingy on the motherboard so I think I'm gonna leave it off.

DoubleTop
18-03-11, 13:06
Nice idea Josh, just started doing that.

Not so sure about the usb 3.0 ports included on a backplate with the motherboard though, as the wire is too short to be managed. It has to be left in the front of the motherboard and looks a bit unsightly. He'll still have a couple on the IO thingy on the motherboard so I think I'm gonna leave it off.

Picture (http://www.doubletop.org.uk/pics/aria/dt-sandybridge/thumbs/P1010187.jpg)

Seems it is missing of mine as well, about the only bad thing I can say about the board was the position of that header :(

Nixon
18-03-11, 13:09
Not so sure about the usb 3.0 ports included on a backplate with the motherboard though, as the wire is too short to be managed. It has to be left in the front of the motherboard and looks a bit unsightly. He'll still have a couple on the IO thingy on the motherboard so I think I'm gonna leave it off.

The bundled USB 3.0 back bracket is designed to go to the top expansion slot. But it looks a mess. The deluxe version gives a 3.5" front USB 3.0 block instead.

USB 3.0 is still under used, even know motherboards had been having them for more than a year now.

If you want to, you can always make a front usb 3.0 3.5" or 5.25" block for the front of the case.

It is designed for front panel header, so I would say the position is not wrong.

DoubleTop
18-03-11, 13:11
It is designed for front panel header, so I would say the position is not wrong.

if that were the case, then why provide the backplate at all, or with such a short lead :) Odd ....

Nixon
18-03-11, 13:16
if that were the case, then why provide the backplate at all, or with such a short lead :) Odd ....

It is obviously an afterthought. You should take off the back plate and drill some holes on a blank front panel slot, so you can have usb 3.0 in the front.

The new lan li cases all have usb 3.0 front panel. And I thought corsair is selling a replacement front panel which switches the usb 2.0s to 3.0s

Spaceboy
18-03-11, 13:18
Excellent pics and great work so far :thumb:

I see you've caught the building bug already with that pride and sense of achievement :D

Keep up the good work!

Brains1969
18-03-11, 13:23
http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/7346/casefrontpsuin.jpg (http://img713.imageshack.us/i/casefrontpsuin.jpg/)

I put the usb 3.0 backplate on the bottom or 7th plate nearest the PSU then run the cable under the motherboard diagonally which brings it out directly where the header is. I've not worked with the 600T before but the HAF X is a full tower and it works with that. Just a

Sniperdude
18-03-11, 13:25
Thanks Brains! xx

Well, thats poo. I got the AS5 because you said you used it on all your systems. Got some T.I.M remover too so i could remove the stuff pre-installed on the H70 and replace it with the AS5.

Nevermind though at least I know the stuff on the H70 is decent then.

xxxx:D


it really annoys me that pc builders list AS5 as part of the spec :knock:
its just thermal paste!

will come in handy if you ever need to remove the cooler anyway.

Lisa
18-03-11, 13:25
The case has one USB 3.0 port on the front and the motherboard has two I think. I reckon 3 external usb 3.0 will be enough for now so I'm just going to leave it off. thanks though Nixon and Coiler.xx

Hey it's Spaceboy!! Thanks you.xx

I'm really struggling with the Backplate for the H70. I've put the screw things in the holes for 1156 but without really manipulating the shape of the bracket it wont fit.

I'll post pics in a bit.

Ps - Brains I've just seen your pic and the explanation. Thanks for that too!! xx

jointhedotz
18-03-11, 13:26
It's popped right in, took about 2 minutes from start to finish including screwing.


There's a joke in there somewhere :)

Lovely looking build though, good work you :-)

Brains1969
18-03-11, 13:33
The case has one USB 3.0 port on the front and the motherboard has two I think. I reckon 3 external usb 3.0 will be enough for now so I'm just going to leave it off. thanks though Nixon and Coiler.xx

Hey it's Spaceboy!! Thanks you.xx

I'm really struggling with the Backplate for the H70. I've put the screw things in the holes for 1156 but without really manipulating the shape of the bracket it wont fit.

I'll post pics in a bit.

It doesn't align up correctly it's just the way it fits as long as you have put the screw 'things' in the the 1156 holes don't worry about it, it will all fit together. :thumb:

Lisa
18-03-11, 13:45
There's a joke in there somewhere :)

Lovely looking build though, good work you :-)

Anyway.......

And thanks.

I've paused in my effing and blinding at the backplate to take delivery of........:D

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It doesn't align up correctly it's just the way it fits as long as you have put the screw 'things' in the the 1156 holes don't worry about it, it will all fit together. :thumb:

I know, I'm not very technical am I. :(

Thanks Brains, I'm sure I'll figure it out. It's just weird as the instructions tell you to put the.....things.....in different holes in each corner, well each pair of corners.

Sniperdude
18-03-11, 13:46
effing and blinding :chairfall: Welcome to the world of computers :cool:


once you get that cooler done ( the hardest part) you will be flying

Brains1969
18-03-11, 15:29
it really annoys me that pc builders list AS5 as part of the spec :knock:
its just thermal paste!

will come in handy if you ever need to remove the cooler anyway.

We do use AS5 with the only exceptions being the Corsair H series watercoolers because these come with the paste pre-applied and it's not advisable to remove.

When Lisa spoke of a cooler much earlier on in another thread there was no mention of a H Series cooler being used (unless i missed it somewhere which would be down to an age thing)otherwise I would have informed her earlier

Lisa
18-03-11, 15:54
It's no biggy Brains. I mentioned it in the other thread, not surprising if you missed it as it's 7 pages long now.:D

It's there if I ever need it. I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.xx

DoubleTop
18-03-11, 16:51
I put the usb 3.0 backplate on the bottom or 7th plate nearest the PSU then run the cable under the motherboard diagonally which brings it out directly where the header is. I've not worked with the 600T before but the HAF X is a full tower and it works with that. Just a

I might be tempted to give that a go, but with my case I like having the underside of the board clear due to the fan I have in my stacker.

Sorry Lisa, hijacking your thread !

jammi
18-03-11, 18:04
I find the build the best part of owning a rig.

Lisa
18-03-11, 18:15
Finally got the H70 installed. Had to take the fans and radiator out of the case on 4 occasions. Don't ask me why 'cause I ain't tellin' ya! Needless to say I messed up. :D

Just installed the GPU as well. Would you like me to post the pics or have you all had enough? xxxx

Brains1969
18-03-11, 18:31
please post :clap

cruciate
18-03-11, 18:37
:order:Pictures!!!!!!

:popcorn:

Lisa
18-03-11, 18:38
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What do you think so far? xx

cruciate
18-03-11, 18:42
Thats looking really, really good.
Much better than my first ever build.

Are you a hustler? In 2 weeks time will you lift the mask and reveal that you were an Aria system builder all along?

Seriously, its looking really sweet, and the cable tidying is going really well

Brains1969
18-03-11, 18:44
Looks great with some excellent cable management going there. Just one thing have you tried the side panel since you fitted the cooler ?

Lisa
18-03-11, 18:58
Thats looking really, really good.
Much better than my first ever build.

Are you a hustler? In 2 weeks time will you lift the mask and reveal that you were an Aria system builder all along?

Seriously, its looking really sweet, and the cable tidying is going really well

Who me? No, seriously now, I've done about 4 hours of research every single day for the past six weeks or so, from 'what is a pc?' (lol) to 'how to cable tidy' and everything inbetween.

Not joking.

As I said I looked at a ton of pics of custom builds and I looked at the one's in Aria's own thread with the pics that Brains posted.

But to be fair even a monkey could cable manage in this case. Honestly, they've thought of everything. There's easy an inch behind the tray. There's even a small hole above the H70 for the 8-pin 12v. The pump cable and the two fan cables (with 2into1 extender) are installed at the top of the motherboard. So you can't see them with a heatsink installed. I think the motherboard and case are a perfect match.


Looks great with some excellent cable management going there. Just one thing have you tried the side panel since you fitted the cooler ?

Hi Brains. Yup, the pump extends to about half a mm inside the enclosure, it just fits. But then the side panel extends that distance by a further 15mm or so. So I've got 3/4 of an inch or thereabouts.:D

I3R0K3N7FEET
18-03-11, 19:05
H70? D: prepare to take off!

looks great apart from the over indulgent corsair love... :P

not that its a bad thing <<

Lisa
18-03-11, 19:08
H70? D: prepare to take off!

looks great apart from the over indulgent corsair love... :P

not that its a bad thing <<

No! You're absolutely right, I was just sat looking at it thinking that myself.

But to be fair, each Corsair item taken in isolation scores very highly in reviews.xx

captainpsteel
18-03-11, 19:13
looking good, the cable management is neat and tidy, looking foward to seeing the finished build.

FlasH
18-03-11, 20:27
Very nice build! Good log also and am impressed with the amount of effort of research gone into this.

I see you like Me to You, had a lecture by Steven Haines - the owner of Cart Blanche just the other day. He dropped a hint that they have a new product (think tatty teddy) being released soon ;)

UrKo
18-03-11, 21:11
Looking good so far Lisa. Cant wait to see the project continue

Mr. Strawberry
19-03-11, 00:11
good build log
looking forward to seeing more pics

Zaim
19-03-11, 00:27
Excellent Build log, looks really good, makes me want to upgrade now :D

Sniperdude
19-03-11, 03:04
well done lisa it looks ace


but does it work? haha

Lisa
19-03-11, 04:14
but does it work? haha

Aw:(Don't say that. I've spent hours just installing the few bits i've installed. If anything hasn't gone in smoothly, even screws, I've backed off it and double and triple checked before carrying on.

Two of the times I took the H70 out were simply because I wasn't happy with the pump-power and fan cable's routing in the case. I've hidden them much better now.

Sniff. :cry

Sniperdude
19-03-11, 04:26
Aw:(Don't say that. I've spent hours just installing the few bits i've installed. If anything hasn't gone in smoothly, even screws, I've backed off it and double and triple checked before carrying on.

Two of the times I took the H70 out were simply because I wasn't happy with the pump-power and fan cable's routing in the case. I've hidden them much better now.

Sniff. :cry


Lisa you have done an excellent job better that most on here including my own.......the force is strong in you youngling http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo97/sniperdude_2008/smileys/starwars.gif



now get that thing fired up :clap

Lisa
19-03-11, 04:29
can't until I get the SSD. Didn't come Friday, so it'll probably be on Monday now. :thumb:

Sniperdude
19-03-11, 04:39
you could always test it with linux on a usb flash drive if you wanted if you have one.

if not you have the weekend to sort any bits your not happy with
then on with the fun stuff once the ssd comes

UrKo
19-03-11, 08:57
Yeah if not and you got a spare pc download the latest ubuntu or similar and run it as a live CD to get a feel for the system. Failing that i know a lot of PC mags with cover DVDs will have the latest iso's on there to use.

cruciate
19-03-11, 09:36
You have a mechanical hard drive though don't you?

Even so, I think I would be turning it on, getting into the bios and watching the system monitor. It will tell you if everything is working, if the H70 is properly seated and allows you that exciting "look what I made" moment. :)

Lisa
19-03-11, 09:47
Thanks boys I know you're only trying to help but my knowledge doesn't extend that far. I'm assuming these are alternate operating systems?

Doesn't matter, I've got loads of cable management to do and cable tying and a few other bits and pieces. Got to get the new LED TV all built up and connected as well as the X41's. Plus I'm going to get my new puppy in about an hour :D.

And I think I'm going to be taking tomorrow off from the world of pc's. 6 weeks of it and I need a break for some 'me' time and also to spend some quality time with the new pup.xxxx

UrKo
19-03-11, 09:55
Yes Lis alternative FREE OS' It will give you the chance to try the machine without installing it on to your HD

cruciate
19-03-11, 10:46
Im not talking about installing anything. Im talking about turning it on and seeing if it fires up.
If you connect the monitor up you will immediately be told there is no bootable drive present and it will ask to to press a key to change the settings.
From here you have access to the "bios", its like the menu page of a TV, or the settings page on your phone.
While in here you can click on the hardware monitor (or something like that) and it will tell you the temperatures of everything and check everything is working.
I always do this before installing windows. It will tell me if everything has been installed properly.

I don't make it sound simple. But it really is.

Edit - looks like this: Note the temps, voltages etc. You have this already, no drives needed. It will give you that "Ive done it" feeling!
http://www.legitreviews.com/images/reviews/1500/p8p67_deluxe_bios_1.jpg

I3R0K3N7FEET
19-03-11, 10:47
ITS LO0ooG LOOOG its big its heavy its wood

cruciate
19-03-11, 10:51
Its better than bad. Its good!!!!!






OMG I can't believe you crammed a Ren and Stimpy reference in this thread!!
(How/why did you do this?)

Lisa
19-03-11, 11:47
Won't I need to install the disc that came with the motherboard though before I get that screen?

If not, it does certainly sound easy peasy and a very good idea Cruciate. I shall be doing that methinks.

thanks you lot. :thumb:

pobbrett
19-03-11, 12:55
nah bios is hard wired in the board

Broadsword1976
19-03-11, 13:15
Sorry, only just popped my nose in...Did no one suggest quickly building outside the case?

For every major build I do I always put the mobo onto a cardboard box, attach CPU, Cooler, RAM and GFX and turn it on...just to make sure everything works by going into BIOS.

It's rare enough but chips, boards and RAM can occasionally be DOA - Dead on Arrival. The last thing we'd want to see would be all your excellent cable tidying and prep be wasted.

I'm sure you'll be fine tho' - top components and you've taken care and time so far so here's hoping when you push that button fans spin, beeps a beep and everything goes swimmingly.

Talking of your components there's a certain caped super-hero wants a word...

*Swoosh*

Sister Citizen I am PROUD of you :thumb:

*Corsair Fanboi leaves, wiping tear from eye.*

cruciate
19-03-11, 13:18
No discs needed. Its all stored on a chip on the board itself.

In the past it was a bit clunky finding your way around, but nowadays you use the mouse to move around and click on things. And the way Asus have done this on their boards is the nicest I have worked with.

Lisa
19-03-11, 14:00
Thanks people, I know I've said it before but I really do appreciate all the time and effort you're giving me.

The gpu is already sagging, even with the metal backplate over the pcb!

<<<< Orders ninja wire.

Lisa
19-03-11, 22:40
:(. I'm sad.

Firstly, it lives which I suppose is a good thing but upon going into the bios it quoted a cpu temp warning and then showed the cpu temp at 97c.

All fans are turning, the pump is plugged into a motherboard fan header, the two fans connected to the radiator are plugged into the cpu fan thingy on the motherboard. Followed the instructions regarding the h70 precisely.

Should I take the pump off the cpu and try and re-seat it? will I need to apply new T.I.M if I do this?

Bit stuck. Help?

I3R0K3N7FEET
19-03-11, 22:45
hi, you need to set the motherboard header to fun at max or 12V otherwise the pump wont work properly, it would be best to use a molex adapter, which, annoyingly, may mean the addition of a cable.

if you take it off yes you will need to replace the paste.

i would advise pulling in the pump via a molex, and the fans into the motherboard as they may be able to be controlled?

Lisa
19-03-11, 22:54
hi, you need to set the motherboard header to fun at max or 12V otherwise the pump wont work properly, it would be best to use a molex adapter, which, annoyingly, may mean the addition of a cable.

if you take it off yes you will need to replace the paste.

i would advise pulling in the pump via a molex, and the fans into the motherboard as they may be able to be controlled?

Thanks for replying so quickly:D. The instructions tell me to plug the 3pin plug attached to the pump to a 3pin header on the motherboard, doesnt mention anything else:mad:

So just to confirm I understand you correctly. Unplug the 3 pin from the motherboard, attach it to a 3pin-molex connector, then attach the molex to a molex connector on a psu cable?

I3R0K3N7FEET
19-03-11, 22:57
yup thats pretty much it. yeh if you use the 3pin header you need to set the motherboard to give full power to the fans, the h70 is pretty noisy to have the fans at fullwhack. though, you never know, maybe your fan headers are already at max and the h70 is duff?

try the molex anyway. nothing to lose atm.

Lisa
19-03-11, 23:14
Sorry, getting confused now. So I should connect both the pump and the fans via a molex or just the pump? The fans are currently plugged into the 'cpu_fan' header on the motherboard. The pump is currently plugged into another 3pin header on the motherboard.

I3R0K3N7FEET
19-03-11, 23:16
just the pump.

Lisa
19-03-11, 23:18
Thank you.:thumb:

I don't have a 3pin to molex lead. The psu only came with a 4pin to molex lead. Do Aria sell the 3pin to molex?

I3R0K3N7FEET
19-03-11, 23:21
the 4pin one should still work?

hmm i have about 15 of them lol

Lisa
19-03-11, 23:28
Actually, the one I have is a female socket and the end of the pump cable is a female too. So they're not going to work are they!

And I really don't fancy searching through the bios (which I've never done) looking for the particular header I'm currently using for the pump to see if it's set at 12v, not whilst the cpu is running at 97c.

bugger.xx

I3R0K3N7FEET
19-03-11, 23:29
:/ thats annoying...

try accessing the uefi bios and see what kinda fan controls there are and if you can set them to 12v or max

Sniperdude
19-03-11, 23:33
if its running at 90 degree all fan headers should be pumping out 12volts anyway

especially the CPU fan header

Lisa
19-03-11, 23:33
Thanks but I really don't fancy doing that as I don't know how long it will take me and the cpu is already running close to it's max.

I'll just have to find and purchase a 3pin (male) to molex connector somewhere.

If that's not the problem then I'll have a go at reseating the pump/heatsink.

xx

I3R0K3N7FEET
19-03-11, 23:37
hmm well try reseating, sometimes the corsair mounts dont apply that much pressure.

Brains1969
19-03-11, 23:39
Before you do anything like that Lisa have you checked that the pump is correctly seated in the retention bracket (look behind the board at the Screw holders and check they are all embedded into the plastic backplate evenly

The fans should be plugged into the cpu header and the pump into any other available 3 pin header

Lisa
19-03-11, 23:42
Hi Brains. Yup, they're all clipped in past the lip. All the screws are as tight at they can be without overtightening.

xx

Brains1969
19-03-11, 23:47
total noob question here did you remove the plastic cover from the pump. just trying to eliminate the obvious first

Lisa
19-03-11, 23:48
No, ask away please.

I'll just go check. I believe I did but I'll double check it now.xx

Edit: Nope, just found the plastic cover in the box.

I've looked at the backplate, I can just see the tips of the screws coming through. That sound right?

Also, I do have the fans connected to the Y cable, that is then connected to the 'cpu_fan' on the motherboard.

the pump cable is connected to another 3 pin header on the motherboard.

xx

Brains1969
19-03-11, 23:58
As long as the holders are seated inside the plate evenly (sometimes the screw can push them back out) then you have done everything right.

Oh just more thing did you hear the pump start up when you switched on ? If you can try listening in the case when you press the power button you should hear a sound of water running through

Lisa
20-03-11, 00:00
None of the holders have popped out (just triple checked). If I've done everything right then what could be wrong do you think?
xx

I3R0K3N7FEET
20-03-11, 00:02
its not getting the full 12v or its faulty :/ shame...

maybe someone from aria can send you a 3pin-molex adaptor

its worth checking at least rather than having to go through the hassle of rma.

Lisa
20-03-11, 00:02
Hold on i'll go take a pic of the backplate and show you, it'll be easier. xx

Sniperdude
20-03-11, 00:03
the mounts sound and look like a pain from install videos

Lisa
20-03-11, 00:07
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Brains1969
20-03-11, 00:09
Those temps indicate that the cpu is not getting any sort of cooling so i would lean towards a faulty pump.

Brains1969
20-03-11, 00:10
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Yep you've fitted it perfect thats how it should look :thumb:

Lisa
20-03-11, 00:13
crap. :(.

RMA it is then.

Which will more than likely put me over my time limit to get it working by the time he gets home. :cry

Gutted. All that work and it's ruined at the finish line.

Can't thank you enough though Brains and Brokenfeet.

I'm tempted to just order an air cooler but then i'll still end up with a H70 as a replacement, if they even take it back.

I knew it would come back to bite me seeing H70's on Aria AFTER i'd ordered mine.

Brains1969
20-03-11, 00:14
its not getting the full 12v or its faulty :/ shame...

maybe someone from aria can send you a 3pin-molex adaptor

its worth checking at least rather than having to go through the hassle of rma.

I've fitted lots of these and there has never been any need for a 3 pin adapter.

Lisa
20-03-11, 00:14
Yep you've fitted it perfect thats how it should look :thumb:

Thanks Brains. At least I have that consolation.

I'm crying. Stupid little girl. It means so much to me to get this done for when he comes home. Want it ready and setup, all stress tested and everything, for when he walks in the door.:(

Thanks everyone once again.xxxx

Brains1969
20-03-11, 00:16
crap. :(.

RMA it is then.

Which will more than likely put me over my time limit to get it working by the time he gets home. :cry

Gutted. All that work and it's ruined at the finish line.

Can't thank you enough though Brains and Brokenfeet.

I'm tempted to just order an air cooler but then i'll still end up with a H70 as a replacement, if they even take it back.

I knew it would come back to bite me seeing H70's on Aria AFTER i'd ordered mine.

did you manage to get close enough to try and hear anything from the pump? also try putting it on a different header

I3R0K3N7FEET
20-03-11, 00:17
if all else fails, use the stock cooler and replace it with the h70 later?

Sniperdude
20-03-11, 00:20
no crying allowed in computering ...awww

take another photo of the front of the mount/ board.

we all get dead parts now and then Lisa

Nathan94
20-03-11, 00:21
if all else fails, use the stock cooler and replace it with the h70 later?

Good point, don't think he'd notice! Just means no overlcocking, not that it really needs it! :)

Lisa
20-03-11, 00:28
did you manage to get close enough to try and hear anything from the pump? also try putting it on a different header

No, didn't think of that, just saw the temp and shut the pc down.

I'll try a different header then the stock cooler. xx

Sorry, just my deadline is very very tight. As I've got a desk and chair from Ikea coming that I have to build for him as well. Got to set up the x41's and the monitor. Install everything etc.

Just going to try a different header now but it'll mean unmounting the radiator and fans as i'm using the top left header behind the radiator, so it'll take me a while. You lot go get some sleep as its gone midnight. don't just sit waiting in the thread for me to reply although it is appreciated muchly.xxxxxxxx

Right, i've just unclipped all my cable routing, took the gpu, ram, and motherboard (with H70 attached) out of the case.

Re-installed everything exactly how I did before (except the cable tidying) and i'm now seeing a temp of 49c, which gradually crept up from 44c, with the backplate side panel off.

So I have to assume that I plugged something in incorrectly. Look how quick I did it though!

Does the TIM on the H70 have to cure? frankly I was expecting lower temps than that.

The ram is showing as 1333mhz but I assume I just set that in the bios?

Anyway, it's working now. I'm just leaving it running in the bios for a while.

The fans and pump are loud Brokenfeet! you were right. But that's only with the side panel off. When I have the side panel on I can hardly hear them and that's with a 200m exhaust fan and huge vent in the top of the case. This case is epic.

Also, shouldn't there be a fan header attached to the psu for it's fan? I couldn't find one. :confused:

Sniperdude
20-03-11, 01:17
lisa I have just looked at the manual for you motherboard and there are tons of setting for the fans and different profiles and such that could effect the performance of the h70
I suggest you go into the monitor part of the bios and get the manual out and have a play you should be able to get it better and possibly use the first fan header you used


the psu fan head isn't needed

Lisa
20-03-11, 01:19
Best have a play then hadn't I.

Sorry (again) I'm just still a bit panicy after that 97c reading.

I'll stop posting now and do some more reading.

Thanks everyone.xx

Just incase anyone's interested here's a pic. (Note the H70 fans are at a constant 2000rpm +/- 50 rpm.

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Sniperdude
20-03-11, 01:40
lol thats one dirty screen you have there lol think i have just been sick a bit in my own mouth

thats just the min settings page it does give you more detailed settings but i don't know how to get in to it cos i haven't used the new bios yet

Lisa
20-03-11, 01:45
lol thats one dirty screen you have there lol think i have just been sick a bit in my own mouth

thats just the min settings page i does give you more detailed settings but i dont knoe how to get in to it cos i haven't used the new bios yet

I know, it's his old screen that has been sat idle now for over 3 months. :D

I'm just so glad it's working. I can play about with it. But for now, it's an acceptable temp and all the fans are working and the bios see's everything that's installed. Yay :clapSo I'm patting myself, lightly, on the back. xx

jammi
20-03-11, 02:28
very nice build here these all in one water blocks seem to be growing on me keeps the internal setup very clean.

...the little one here makes all the screens in the house look way worse then that iv got sticky little finger prints on my new plasma and its only a week old.

UrKo
20-03-11, 08:18
I know what your saying about little ones jammi, My 2 yr old is into everything. Ended up wall mounting the main TV...

Lisa going well like you said you can begin tweaking things now you now its all working. well Done

cruciate
20-03-11, 08:50
I am so pleased you decided to delve in the bios. If you hadn't you wouldn't have known that something was wrong.
Top effort on getting it sorted. TIM needs a few heat cycles to get to it's maximum efficiency.


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f12f12
20-03-11, 09:02
if the fans work and you can hear them, then we can say they are on full speed.

plug the pump in to that header. and plug the fan in to the other (old pump) header.

Lisa
20-03-11, 13:51
if the fans work and you can hear them, then we can say they are on full speed.

plug the pump in to that header. and plug the fan in to the other (old pump) header.

Sorry, so if I can hear a fan running that automatically means it's running on full speed? Wouldn't that be fan dependent and where it's receiving it's power from? And only monitoring software can tell if it's running at full (or lower) rpm can't it?

:confused::confused:

The fans have to be plugged into the cpu fan header so their rpm can be managed otherwise they would definately be running at the full 2000rpm all the time, even if they didn't need to be.


I am so pleased you decided to delve in the bios. If you hadn't you wouldn't have known that something was wrong.
Top effort on getting it sorted. TIM needs a few heat cycles to get to it's maximum efficiency.


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You're not wrong! Thank you so very much for talking me through it Cruciate.xxxx

I3R0K3N7FEET
20-03-11, 13:56
is this a bad time to point out that Aria can do custom builds including overclocks for like £50ish

.........

Pancake
20-03-11, 13:56
is this a bad time to point out that Aria can do custom builds including overclocks for like £50ish

.........

That would be no fun, mgiht as well learn to do it yourself man

Lisa
20-03-11, 13:57
is this a bad time to point out that Aria can do custom builds including overclocks for like £50ish

.........

I know they do but I was really keen to build it all myself, from spec to completion. That way when he's home I can surprise him by saying I built it.

A couple of months ago I knew absolutely nothing about computers. I'm not exaggerating.

Right, so now I know everything is receiving power and is working I can sort most of the cables out to get them tidy.

Then just waiting on the ssd so I can install the o.s.

cruciate
20-03-11, 14:03
I think he is saying that since you know that fan header is working, you can try the pump attached to it. And if the CPU is getting hot it will put the power to 100%.

Personally I think its pretty much under control now and you should be OK.

What WILL probably be happening, is the standard BIOS settings seem to be to have the motherboard control the fan speeds automatically. So the hotter things get the faster the fans spin.

This is great. But with your setup, if you for example connected the pump to the "system fan" header, your motherboard will say that the temperature inside your case isn't that hot, so it can have 50% power, but the CPU is toasty, so that can have 100% power.
Then the pump might not be starting up.
I THINK you already understand this bit any way.
The trick IMO would be to get into the advanced settings of the motherboard and turn off the "auto manage system temps" (but leave the auto on the CPU temps).
Then you could turn the system fan header up to 100% and give the pump all the juice it needs!

Lisa
20-03-11, 14:10
I think he is saying that since you know that fan header is working, you can try the pump attached to it. And if the CPU is getting hot it will put the power to 100%.

Personally I think its pretty much under control now and you should be OK.

What WILL probably be happening, is the standard BIOS settings seem to be to have the motherboard control the fan speeds automatically. So the hotter things get the faster the fans spin.

This is great. But with your setup, if you for example connected the pump to the "system fan" header, your motherboard will say that the temperature inside your case isn't that hot, so it can have 50% power, but the CPU is toasty, so that can have 100% power.
Then the pump might not be starting up.
I THINK you already understand this bit any way.
The trick IMO would be to get into the advanced settings of the motherboard and turn off the "auto manage system temps" (but leave the auto on the CPU temps).
Then you could turn the system fan header up to 100% and give the pump all the juice it needs!

Ah, right. I did kind of already know that but you've just explained it so much better than I did to myself.

Okey doke, so pump header to 100% cpu header to system managed.

The system fans attached to the case are managed manually by the fan controller built in to the case so doing this won't alter them at all.

Thanks again! xxxx

cruciate
20-03-11, 14:12
Okey doke, so pump header to 100% cpu header to system managed.

The system fans attached to the case are managed manually by the fan controller built in to the case so doing this won't alter them at all.
Absolutely spot on.
You're learning faster than most of the people I know. :)

Brains1969
20-03-11, 14:14
I take it the temps are ok now Lisa ?
Did you have to try a different header for the pump ?

Lisa
20-03-11, 14:22
I take it the temps are ok now Lisa ?
Did you have to try a different header for the pump ?

I went stomping upstairs with my 'determined' walk and stripped everything out of the case Brains. Then re-installed everthing and it worked fine.

So I can only assume I didn't plug something in correctly the first time around.

The cpu is currently around 49c and holding. I've had it running all night. And i've been sat in front of it for the past 4 hours keeping my beady eye on the temps shown in the bios.

cruciate
20-03-11, 14:33
Been back to your post with the bios pic in it.
the motherboard/system temps were 28c and I believe you had the side panel off.

So, and my question is to Brains, (or anyone else) is a delta-t of 21c about right with this cooler, while in the bios (Therefore at idle?)
Seems a teeny bit high still......
My i5 750 sits at 34c with my Fenrir - (delta-t of around 15c)
(ignore that last bit Lisa, I don't want you worrying)

I3R0K3N7FEET
20-03-11, 14:49
that temp was mobo temp not cpu temp, the cpu was 49 degrees?

cruciate
20-03-11, 15:44
that temp was mobo temp not cpu temp, the cpu was 49 degrees?

I'm talking about delta temps. I.e. The temperature above ambient. If the system sensor is reading 28c then the CPU is 21 above ambient. My CPU which is slightly less efficient sits at around 13c above ambient


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I3R0K3N7FEET
20-03-11, 17:22
ahh fair point.

Lisa
20-03-11, 20:19
Hello everyone had a fair old play today

Set cpu fan control to enabled.
set cpu fan profile to standard

set chassis fan control to enabled
set chassis fan profile to turbo.

then

set chassis fan control to off
set chassis fan to manual

No difference in temps no matter what I select. I've left the pc running for half an hour between setting changes. Both side panels have been on throughout. The case fans have been at full rpm for all settings.

The motherboard temp is 27c, the cpu temp is still 49c. So the Delta has actually increased by 1c

The fans on the h70 run at 2000rpm (max) regardless of settings selected.

I realise it's a safe temp but there's also turbo mode and overclocking to take into account.

Anybody wanna buy a H70? One careful lady owner who just hates it. Have to be an Intel buyer as I can't find the 4 plastic inserts for the amd frontplate.

Shouldn've listened to Brains and got the Dark Rock Pro. If I can get a buyer for the H70 I'm gonna buy it.

El Wayneo
20-03-11, 20:20
YOu need to make a for sale thread then.


Can't just offer stuff for sale in random threads.

Lisa
20-03-11, 20:23
YOu need to make a for sale thread then.


Can't just offer stuff for sale in random threads.

Oh, I'm so sorry Mr Forum Policeman. You know, you make a lot of abrupt posts like this Wayne. Tell you what why don't you and I just not speak. How would that be?

f12f12
20-03-11, 20:28
sorry i do agree with Lisa here.

at the end of the day if you are scarring off new users of the forums then the mods aren't going to look kindly on you.

remember its your choice to post in a thread you have no obligation.

El Wayneo
20-03-11, 20:28
Oh whatever lets all just flaunt the rules then.

El Wayneo
20-03-11, 20:29
Rules are rules, new user or not.

cruciate
20-03-11, 20:30
Lisa, before being hasty, lets see if anyone else can come up with ideas.
I'll admit to being out of ideas. My only other thought would be to install the stock cooler that came with the CPU and see if the temps are any different. But thats a bit of a ball-ache.

Wait and see what others say.

Lisa
20-03-11, 20:35
Rules are rules, new user or not.

Wayne YOU need to take this discussion elsewhere.

Can't just hijack someone's thread for your own amusement

And, not that I have to justify myself to someone who isn't a mod (if the mod's have an issue with what I've said I'm sure I'll hear from them), but if you'd bother to read the post correctly you'll have quite clearly seen it was borne from frustration not a definate need to sell the thing.

And if you'd bothered to read my reply correctly you'll have seen it wasn't what you said it was how you said it.

Anyway. Thanks Cruciate. I dunno. I just saw the reviews saying it was great and quiet when not overclocked and not too loud when it was. Bit disappointed with it at the mo.xx

El Wayneo
20-03-11, 20:40
I don't have to go anywhere.

I'm not thread hhijacking i merely commented on a breach of rules as lots of others do here as the Mods can't be everywhere all the time.


Anyway




Have you remounted the H70 to check if its secure or not?


Did you have any problems putting it on? they come with thermal paste already on it so did it smudge and is uneven?


Have you go the fans pulling air into the case? or pulling hot air form in the case at the RAD.


Whats the pump plugged into? It should be a 12V supply and not recommended on a 3 pin header if you control the fans via the motherboard.

cruciate
20-03-11, 20:40
I feel there is something not quite right. It maybe the sensor on the motherboard thats wrong. It might be a fault with the cooler.
It certainly sounds like you have done everyting right, lisa

Of course, I might be wrong entirely. 49c might be spot on for that CPU in the bios. It just doesn't feel right to me.

And lets keep the thread on track people please. If someone wants a bicker, leave them to it and don't get dragged in. If something has upset you, report the post, let the mods decide whose right. Don't let a disagreement spoil what is a really interesting build log.

Aaron
20-03-11, 20:44
Right, lets try and keep it nice in here!!

Looking at the posts, if that was a serious offer of a sale, then El_Wayneo is actually 100% right, and there does need to be a For Sale thread created - we are pretty laid back on the forum rules here, but on the issue of buying and selling, we have to be completely strict on the rules for 2 reasons - 1, to protect the users and keep everything where it should be, and 2, because at the end of the day, this forum is hosted by a company who makes their money by buying and selling PC bits! :lol:

However, to keep things happy, lets try and leave the modding to the mods - thats what the Report Post button is for :)

Also, I think its important that people remember that things always come across worse when written down. When I read EW's initial post, I see it as a reminder what the rules are, and as a helpful comment to prevent someone getting in trouble - but also easily interpreted as having a go. I think all of the replies from EW's initial post were pretty out of order and sparked an issue that didnt need to happen.

Lets keep it nice from now on, please, and get back to whats being discussed. :)

Aaron
20-03-11, 20:52
Just as a quick note - I've deleted a few posts that followed on from the original issue which were evidently posted as I was also writing mine as well.. Just incase anyone wonders where things have gone :) :lol:

UrKo
20-03-11, 20:53
Ahh I had wondered.

Spaceboy
20-03-11, 21:20
Feel your frustration there Lisa... 49 does just seem too high, although as Cruciate mentioned it could be a faulty sensor also.

I would be tempted to try the stock cooler and if the idle temp is lower with that (and tbh it should be in the region of 5-10 degrees above ambient when the cpu is idle) then I would be RMA'ing / returning / selling the H70 as well and replacing it with a reasonable air cooler as it certainly looks like you've tried everything including ripping the whole thing apart and re-fitting :(

On the plus side you should take stock from the fact you've gone from knowing next to nothing, to building an awesome performance rig (temp issues aside) with just the right components! :thumb:

God knows I'd love to have a rig like that, let alone have it built for me, and as a surprise! :D

Really do hope you get it sorted, although like cruciate, I'm out of ideas regarding the H70 temps :(

Lisa
20-03-11, 21:57
Thanks people.

Faulty sensor? Excuse my ignorance but would that be built into the cpu?

A funny thing actually in the screenshot I posted with the dirty screen it shows as 49c but in the advanced part of the bios it shows as 45c.

Also, I'm concerned that even when the cpu is idle the cpu fans (pwm controlled obviously) are still running at 2000rpm when they can throttle down to 1600rpm. Is that suggestive of something?

So, install the stock cpu cooler and have a look at temps and then post back?

What would be the best thing cloth thingy to clean the tim off with?

Wow, look at me, more questions. Sorry.xx

UrKo
20-03-11, 22:00
Nothing to be sorry for lisa. Whether or not its right to do so i use kitchen roll to remove the TIM. Then use a very soft cloth to finish. Prob will get corrected.

Smifis
20-03-11, 22:01
kitchen roll to get the bulk and nail varnish remover to get the rest off.

has your other tim arrived yet?

Zaim
20-03-11, 22:03
Hi lisa, you said you set the following:
"Set cpu fan control to enabled.
set cpu fan profile to standard"

have you tried disabling cpu fan control? that should allow what ever is connected to that header to run at full speed.

Lisa
20-03-11, 22:08
Hi lisa, you said you set the following:
"Set cpu fan control to enabled.
set cpu fan profile to standard"

have you tried disabling cpu fan control? that should allow what ever is connected to that header to run at full speed.


Hi Zaim, the fans attached to the radiator are plugged in there. And they're already running at full speed (2000rpm). That's one of my concerns. If the cpu is at stock speed and idle why on earth are the funs running full tilt when they're being controlled by the bios. It does make me wonder.

For giggles I turned cpu fan profile to turbo (runs the fans at 100% on the bios) but as they were already running at 2000rpm it made no difference whatsoever.


kitchen roll to get the bulk and nail varnish remover to get the rest off.

has your other tim arrived yet?

Thanks Smifis, yup got the tim remover and tim through the post.xx

Smifis
20-03-11, 22:22
Tim remover, now that's fancy, I just bought some boots nail varnish remover :L

Spaceboy
20-03-11, 22:28
Tim remover, now that's fancy, I just bought some boots nail varnish remover :L

Lol, I use baby-wipes... :o

seriously awesome things though, really :D

I3R0K3N7FEET
20-03-11, 22:33
i like to use them anyway. leaves my bot nice and moisturised

UrKo
20-03-11, 22:35
Never thought of baby wipes :( got loads of them here with a 2 year old

captainpsteel
20-03-11, 22:51
I have a stash of isopropyl wipes for this (don't ask me were they came from. :ninja: thanks work, got way too many at work so asked nicely) great for cleaning anything.:thumb:
Sorry I've not been able to help with your issues during the build as I don't have the level of expertise required.
Hope the rest of the build goes easier.

cruciate
20-03-11, 22:58
Lisa, the CPU does have temp sensors, one for each core, but the motherboard has one too; within the socket; and that's what the bios is reporting.
If you try the stock cooler it will let us know what, if anything us faulty


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Lisa
21-03-11, 07:50
Morning all. Bleary eyed and grumpy before your first coffee of the day I hope. :thumb:

My brother has just dropped off the ssd (yay) so before I do anything with the h70 and intel heatsink would it be a good idea to install the ssd, then install windows/motherboard disc and then download realtemp so see if the cpu temperature is being mis-reported by the motherboard?

Lisa
21-03-11, 08:16
And ten minutes later this arrived:

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Here's the ssd:

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UrKo
21-03-11, 08:19
Nice start to a dreary Monday

Brains1969
21-03-11, 09:19
Good Morning Lisa I've been having a chat with the guys who do the testing here and both of them have confirmed what I have been thinking. The temps you are seeing at the moment in Bios (49) for your CPU are about right as the Bios does exert a small amount of load on the CPU. Once you are in Windows your temps should read around the 35 mark.

Hope this helps :)

Lisa
21-03-11, 09:35
Good Morning Lisa I've been having a chat with the guys who do the testing here and both of them have confirmed what I have been thinking. The temps you are seeing at the moment in Bios (49) for your CPU are about right as the Bios does exert a small amount of load on the CPU. Once you are in Windows your temps should read around the 35 mark.

Hope this helps :)

Aw, thanks for doing that Brains. Going the extra mile there.

But I've literally just removed the H70. Even got pics!

I wasn't too happy with the way the radiator was orientated anyway so it's not a wasted exercise. Plus when he comes to replace the tim in a year or so I can show him how! xx

Ps. Another good thing is that it shows I installed it correctly.

Lisa
21-03-11, 09:49
In the first two pics it, to me, looks like the cpu wasn't mounted with the pressure equalized across the heatsink. Have a nosey at the tim itself.

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In the next two pics it shows the heatsink and cpu after cleaning. The tim around the edges of the heatsink was solid but the tim in the middle was much softer.

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coiler
21-03-11, 10:10
last pic has some very nice detail :+1

redrooster303
21-03-11, 10:25
Few!, just finished reading all the thread. Gotta say this is one lucky guy to have a computer (and a woman who builds and suprises you with it) like that.
I have an asus deluxe board so I will have a look in the bios for the temps I get (bios temps).
Also when you get into windows you can download the asus control panel which has really good controls/settings for fans, you'll see when its installed (basically a table where you can make your own profile by moving some points).

You can also OC in the control panel from within windows, you may need to reapply the settings in the bios when you find a stable OC but its a good way to find the stable OC without having to constantly reboot etc. Didn't use it as the first settings in the bios I input worked straight away (and I'm an OC noob) SB for you.

The sandy chips are easy to OC though and with a bit of help you'll manage it.
If you want to know what ahy settings are in the bios/control panel just ask and I'll try my best to tell you.:)

MoonPig
21-03-11, 10:30
Gunna say, i looked at the first post, saw all that high end kit and no SSD. Then this page has it, good lad :)

Looking good matey :)

Lisa
21-03-11, 10:31
Few!, just finished reading all the thread. Gotta say this is one lucky guy to have a computer (and a woman who builds and suprises you with it) like that.
I have an asus deluxe board so I will have a look in the bios for the temps I get (bios temps).
Also when you get into windows you can download the asus control panel which has really good controls/settings for fans, you'll see when its installed (basically a table where you can make your own profile by moving some points).

You can also OC in the control panel from within windows, you may need to reapply the settings in the bios when you find a stable OC but its a good way to find the stable OC without having to constantly reboot etc. Didn't use it as the first settings in the bios I input worked straight away (and I'm an OC noob) SB for you.

The sandy chips are easy to OC though and with a bit of help you'll manage it.
If you want to know what ahy settings are in the bios/control panel just ask and I'll try my best to tell you.:)

Didn't know any of that, thanks RedRooster! xxxx


Gunna say, i looked at the first post, saw all that high end kit and no SSD. Then this page has it, good lad :)

Looking good matey :)

Thanks!

But, erm, I'm a woman.xx:D

redrooster303
21-03-11, 10:39
Didn't know any of that, thanks RedRooster! xxxx

Right Lisa I've just looked in the bios on mine (just about identical board/bios) and the temp for my cpu it says is 47c. Now when I get into windows and run core temp its at about 27c~ and thats at idle with a 4.5ghz OC (downclocks itself to 1600mhz automatically).
This is with a noctua so it means your temps were spot on all along. Like what brains said the EFI bios' (correct apostrophe usage,just for thunderflash:D) must use abit of juice to get up n running compared to the old bios.:)

Also, and you may already know this, when you install the SSD make sure you set AHCI in the bios, somewhere in the storage/hdd settings bit. You'll have issues if you don't.:)

MoonPig
21-03-11, 10:39
Kinda noticed after i posted. I'll amend that.

"Then this page has it, nice one honey" :)

alexnifty
21-03-11, 10:56
Looks good so far apart from that one minor hitch. There's always a hitch so it's good we have that out of the way early.

About the temps, from what people are saying I think it is down to what that sensor actually is. I might have missed in the thread if it has deffo been identified but my suspicion would be that the sensor is the CPU socket and not the actual CPU core temperature.
Generally in my experience the socket runs warmer than the CPU because there's nothing directly cooling it.

If it is the actual CPU Core temp then it has to be that BIOS is putting a load on the CPU. Doesn't take a huge amount of load to up the temps by 10c.

coiler
21-03-11, 10:56
Few!, just finished reading all the thread. Gotta say this is one lucky guy to have a computer (and a woman who builds and suprises you with it) like that.
I have an asus deluxe board so I will have a look in the bios for the temps I get (bios temps).
Also when you get into windows you can download the asus control panel which has really good controls/settings for fans, you'll see when its installed (basically a table where you can make your own profile by moving some points).

You can also OC in the control panel from within windows, you may need to reapply the settings in the bios when you find a stable OC but its a good way to find the stable OC without having to constantly reboot etc. Didn't use it as the first settings in the bios I input worked straight away (and I'm an OC noob) SB for you.

The sandy chips are easy to OC though and with a bit of help you'll manage it.
If you want to know what ahy settings are in the bios/control panel just ask and I'll try my best to tell you.:)

I have Asus 6engine on my board, probably the same idea but different name. Tis great, lowers fan speeds and clock when browsing net, fires up fans and clocks when gaming.

cruciate
21-03-11, 11:05
I'm really pleased that others are getting similar temps. I have to say that I'm surprised how much juice the bios is asking for. My non-EFI bios keeps my CPU at around 32c.

I'm also really sad that you've gone to all this trouble when it might've been ok all along.
I'll get my coat


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Spaceboy
21-03-11, 11:07
Right Lisa I've just looked in the bios on mine (just about identical board/bios) and the temp for my cpu it says is 47c. Now when I get into windows and run core temp its at about 27c~ and thats at idle with a 4.5ghz OC (downclocks itself to 1600mhz automatically).
This is with a noctua so it means your temps were spot on all along. Like what brains said the EFI bios' (correct apostrophe usage,just for thunderflash:D) must use abit of juice to get up n running compared to the old bios.:)


That's a relief to know mate! :thumb:

At least Lisa's getting some good practice with the hardware :rolleyes:

redrooster303
21-03-11, 11:14
That's a relief to know mate! :thumb:

At least Lisa's getting some good practice with the hardware :rolleyes:



When I was reading it I was all happy for her managing to do her first build without a hiccup and then when this problem came up it was abit of a downer lol. Its all ok now though because those were definately the correct temps she was getting so she can chill out now knowing its ok.


Then comes the overclocking but its not that hard on SB so she should be ok.:)

jointhedotz
21-03-11, 11:31
I wish my postie brought exciting things like this every day :(

Awesome work and perseverence Lisa, can't wait to see the pics once the ssd's in and OS is loaded, which I guess won't be long given your rate of progress so far.

I think i speak for everyone when I say you're doing a fantastic job, to go from knowing nothing about pc's to this in a matter of weeks is amazing :-)

alexnifty
21-03-11, 11:46
I think i speak for everyone when I say you're doing a fantastic job, to go from knowing nothing about pc's to this in a matter of weeks is amazing :-)

And it's a testament to how chuffing easy it is to build a computer from scratch if you do a little bit of research and ask a few questions. Most people just see a magic mystery box and dismiss it as something they will never understand. Such a shame that people don't have the self confidence to learn about such things.
Then again, I guess Helpdesks would go out of business overnight if everyone was fixing things for themselves :p

BeeP
21-03-11, 11:52
And it's a testament to how chuffing easy it is to build a computer from scratch if you do a little bit of research and ask a few questions. Most people just see a magic mystery box and dismiss it as something they will never understand. Such a shame that people don't have the self confidence to learn about such things.
Then again, I guess Helpdesks would go out of business overnight if everyone was fixing things for themselves :p

So true, so many people used to nag me about PC bits & for help because PC building is a "black art".

I normally say "if you can do lego you can build a PC"......apart from the cost & maybe frying something/someone it is similarish lol.

Lisa
21-03-11, 12:57
I'm really pleased that others are getting similar temps. I have to say that I'm surprised how much juice the bios is asking for. My non-EFI bios keeps my CPU at around 32c.

I'm also really sad that you've gone to all this trouble when it might've been ok all along.
I'll get my coat


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Don't be silly Cruciate, you've been brilliant and for all you knew at the time it was an issue. Mwa.xxxx

Lisa
21-03-11, 12:58
Just re-installed the H70.

Pics in a few mins, just got to optimise the Jpeg's. Hark at me!

(Been reading Paint Shop Pro instructions).

Sniperdude
21-03-11, 12:58
Get your SSD yet Lisa ?

Lisa
21-03-11, 13:09
H70 Re-installation

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Not tidied up yet

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Look at me planning ahead:

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I've put the two resistors on the H70s fans to allow them to run at 1600rpm. I've then routed them out the back of the case so if he ever needs them to run at the full 2000rpm it's just a case of opening the side panel and removing them when otherwise he'd have to unmount the H70. 5 Second job instead of a 5 minute job. :thumb:

MoonPig
21-03-11, 13:10
Lisa, West Yorkshire aye?

Where abouts, i'm in Crofton.

On topic, I've always wondered what a H70 would look like with the PULL fan on the outside of the case.

Lisa
21-03-11, 13:13
I wish my postie brought exciting things like this every day :(

Awesome work and perseverence Lisa, can't wait to see the pics once the ssd's in and OS is loaded, which I guess won't be long given your rate of progress so far.

I think i speak for everyone when I say you're doing a fantastic job, to go from knowing nothing about pc's to this in a matter of weeks is amazing :-)

I've ran out of thanks to give so Thanks very much for saying that! xxxx:D


Get your SSD yet Lisa ?

Yup, got it. There's pics earlier in the thread.xx

Sniperdude
21-03-11, 13:29
is right.

I probably wouldn't have bothered with resistor cables on the cpu fans

I would have done what brains said plug the cpu fans into the cpu fans head and
let the motherboard control them

once your in windows the temps will drop from what you see in the bios
and so would your cpu fan speeds as a result = silence

Lisa
21-03-11, 13:35
is right.

I probably wouldn't have bothered with resistor cables on the cpu fans

I would have done what brains said plug the cpu fans into the cpu fans head and
let the motherboard control them

once your in windows the temps will drop from what you see in the bios
and so would your cpu fan speeds as a result = silence

They are plugged into the cpu fan header. I had them this way before but they ran at 2000rpm regardless of bios settings. They aren't too loud with the side panels on but if I can get them quieter without affecting temps too much then I'll be doing that. No harm in trying it I guess. xx

Smifis
21-03-11, 13:42
3 pin fans are normally full speed without a fan controller. if you get a pwm fan then the motherboard will be abel to control it's speeds.

Lisa
21-03-11, 13:43
Some more pics. I know it's a Monday and you're all hating the week right now so thought I'd post some. :D

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Biodoid
21-03-11, 13:43
looking good though :thumb:

Lisa
21-03-11, 13:46
3 pin fans are normally full speed without a fan controller. if you get a pwm fan then the motherboard will be abel to control it's speeds.

Ah, so the fan has to be a pwm model to enable the bios to control the rpm? Didn't know that thought the bios would just control it anyway.

I don't even know if the fans on the H70 are pwm fans or not, the specs of these fans appear to be a secret over at Corsair.

Smifis
21-03-11, 13:47
pwm fans have 4 pins.

Lisa
21-03-11, 13:49
pwm fans have 4 pins.

Thanks Smifis, I really don't know too much do I. :(

But I will! :D

alexnifty
21-03-11, 13:50
If you put a 3-pin fan into a 4-pin header then the mobo probably won't be able to control it's speed. If you put a 3-pin fan into a 3-pin header then the mobo should be able to.

Smifis
21-03-11, 13:51
indeed but aren't 100% of cpu headers these days pwm?

Lisa
21-03-11, 13:51
Slightly off subject but are the pictures I'm posting ok for everyone?

Not too big or to bandwidth intensive?

If so, please let me know. I'm optimising them at around the 300kb mark.


If you put a 3-pin fan into a 4-pin header then the mobo probably won't be able to control it's speed. If you put a 3-pin fan into a 3-pin header then the mobo should be able to.

Okey doke, that's how I had it set but the rpm on the fan never changed.

Smifis
21-03-11, 13:54
Slightly off subject but are the pictures I'm posting ok for everyone?

Not too big or to bandwidth intensive?

If so, please let me know. I'm optimising them at around the 300kb mark.
they're nice, not too big, not tiny. loads up quick too so the file size must be pretty small.

You're putting a lot of effort into this :D very impressive and stop worrying. :lol:

Sniperdude
21-03-11, 14:00
in the bios advanced monitor section is CPU Q fan enabled

Lisa
21-03-11, 14:14
in the bios advanced monitor section is CPU Q fan enabled

Yup.xx

captainpsteel
21-03-11, 16:26
Slightly off subject but are the pictures I'm posting ok for everyone?

Not too big or to bandwidth intensive?

If so, please let me know. I'm optimising them at around the 300kb mark.
no they are even loading on py phone which is only receving low speed connection at the moment so hopefully no one should have any problems loading the photos
The photos look good looks like the build is going well hope everything else goes well in the build.
You sound like me needing to have everthing perfect before moving on to the next step can't wait to see the finished build.

AbandonedT
21-03-11, 16:46
Can't believe how well this is coming along, bet you will be glad once it's up and running fully though!

Josh
21-03-11, 16:50
Pictures are fine, Lisa. :) It really is starting to look awesome. Can't wait to see the finished product.

UrKo
21-03-11, 16:57
Your an inspiration Lisa way to go. When I do my next build this thread will be used as reference. Cannot wait for finished article.

I3R0K3N7FEET
21-03-11, 16:59
CORSASUS build LOG
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hP0kWqJJZa4)

radial
21-03-11, 17:42
Way to go Lisa, very impressed! If only I could get my missus that enthusiastic ;)

Sniperdude
21-03-11, 17:57
this thread has been invaded by Americanisms not even good ones at that

Way to go.....WTF? I'll tell you the way to go.


{EXIT} <----- :coat

I3R0K3N7FEET
21-03-11, 18:21
hahaha lets leave the thread for computer hardware..

radial
21-03-11, 18:27
was only meant in jest, made me roar when I saw it ;)

Lisa
21-03-11, 20:23
Woohoo!!!!!!:D

Remember how the cpu temp was 49c and the motherboard temp was 27c?

Well look what it is after I re-installed the H70 using AS5 T.I.M

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/2733/newcputemp.jpg (http://img34.imageshack.us/i/newcputemp.jpg/)
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UrKo
21-03-11, 20:24
Thats a bit of a difference.

El Wayneo
21-03-11, 20:25
Well done. was probably just a bad mount as the TIM they use is pretty much the same as AS5.


I've had to remount plenty of H50 and Coolit Eco's before to get it right, many on here as well.

Zaim
21-03-11, 20:36
Woohoo!!!!!!:D

Remember how the cpu temp was 49c and the motherboard temp was 27c?

Well look what it is after I re-installed the H70 using AS5 T.I.M

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/2733/newcputemp.jpg (http://img34.imageshack.us/i/newcputemp.jpg/)
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Excellent, looks like the re-installation worked :thumb:

Lisa
21-03-11, 20:39
Yeah, as I mentioned in an earlier post with the re-installation pics it looked, to me, as if the pressure wasn't the same across the whole surface of the cpu.

Glad I re-installed it now and the orientation is much more pleasing as well as the radiator is further away from the side panel.

Oh, and this lower temp was also achieved with the fans running at 1600rpm rather than the 2000rpm they were running at before. So it's both quieter and cooler. Thanks Zaim.xxxx

Spaceboy
21-03-11, 20:42
Awesome! Now there's something else to be proud of :thumb:

Are you addicted to building and fiddling yet ? :D

Lisa
21-03-11, 21:10
Awesome! Now there's something else to be proud of :thumb:

Are you addicted to building and fiddling yet ? :D


I'm getting there Spaceboy, actually looking at a build for a htpc. But I think I'll get this out of the way first.

Found a properly cute case, it's made by Oregin and it has a 7" touchscreen but just the case is very expensive.

Sniperdude
21-03-11, 21:37
Woohoo!!!!!!:D

Remember how the cpu temp was 49c and the motherboard temp was 27c?

Well look what it is after I re-installed the H70 using AS5 T.I.M

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/2733/newcputemp.jpg (http://img34.imageshack.us/i/newcputemp.jpg/)
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Lisa thats great am glad its all working out for you

that temp might drop even more in windows if EIST is enabled in the BIOS
normally is by default

post your temps from hardware monitor in windows

http://www.cpuid.com/downloads/hwmonitor/1.17-setup.exe

I3R0K3N7FEET
21-03-11, 21:38
someones got the builder bug :P

Lisa
21-03-11, 21:48
Yup, i've got EIST enabled in the bios Snipercooldude. :thumb:

Thanks for the link too.xx

MoonPig
21-03-11, 22:11
Nice temps. Look what a little re-seating can do, lol.

cruciate
21-03-11, 22:18
Phew http://i.pbase.com/o6/61/114161/1/86440058.7L5LRh9N.phew.gif

I got out of jail free there.



Told you your temps could be better. :ninja:

:o

Sniperdude
21-03-11, 22:30
just goes to show its always best to scrape off the TIM and use your own regardless of brand of cooler

I3R0K3N7FEET
21-03-11, 22:31
i prefer to have my coolers without any pre applied annyway. of all the pastes i have used (being most of them) i still stick to my guns with Mx-3

Sniperdude
21-03-11, 22:33
I like diamond AS5 or mx3

Lisa
21-03-11, 22:37
Phew http://i.pbase.com/o6/61/114161/1/86440058.7L5LRh9N.phew.gif

I got out of jail free there.



Told you your temps could be better. :ninja:

:o

You never need to apologise to me Cruciate. As far as everyone was concerned, not just you, it looked like an issue.

I aspire to have as much knowledge and savvy regarding computers as you do (and some others on here) and I can't thank you enough.xx

Lisa
21-03-11, 22:38
Nice temps. Look what a little re-seating can do, lol.

Yup, gotta say I was rather iffy before began it because the H70 isn't the easiest item to mount if you take into account the radiator and fans.

But it all went smoothly.xx

Sniperdude
21-03-11, 22:39
yeah one day you will trade you gucci handbags and false nails for glasses and upgrades



































And so will Lisa :chairfall:

Lisa
21-03-11, 22:39
I like diamond AS5 or mx3

I just went with AS5 because Brains the monster said he used it on all the high-end builds he creates.:D

Lisa
21-03-11, 22:50
Right, a couple more pics.

Also, the motherboard has 4xsata 3gb/s ports and 4xsata 6gb/s ports.

two of each are, by default, AHCI enabled. (So no messing in the bios).

So what I was thinking was install the ssd due to it's read speed in one of the AHCI 6gb/s ports.

The Samsung F3 in one of the Sata 3gb/s AHCI ports.

The Samsung F4 and the optical drive in the 'normal' sata 3gb/s ports.

This sound ok?

Can't install yet as the angled ended sata cables that came with the board are just too tight on the angled ends to squeeze comfortably into the motherboard ports and I'd hate to snap one on either the motherboard or one of the drives.

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Smifis
21-03-11, 23:01
the right angled end goes into the hard drive lisa...

Lisa
21-03-11, 23:08
the right angled end goes into the hard drive lisa...

Sorry, didn't explain that very well.

For the optical drive it won't as the bay is longer than it. And it's too tight on the motherboard, it also blocks the port beneath it as it simply won't fit on the bottom port.

But now I've just had a brain fart and told myself to move the optical drive to a higher bay.....

Oh dear.

Live and learn. :o