View Full Version : FA Cup - Manchester United vs Arsenal k/o 17.15 ITV
ThunderFlash
12-03-11, 12:46
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Man Utd are without Nani who suffered a gashed leg at Liverpool, but captain Nemanja Vidic returns from suspension.
Rio Ferdinand (calf) and Park Ji-sung (hamstring) will not be risked and Antonio Valencia is not yet match fit.
Cesc Fabregas misses out for Arsenal after aggravating his hamstring injury in Tuesday's defeat against Barcelona.
Robin van Persie is set to skipper the side after returning against Barcelona but Wojciech Szczesny, Theo Walcott, Alex Song and Thomas Vermaelen are out.
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watercooled
12-03-11, 12:51
cmon arsenal
ThunderFlash
12-03-11, 13:01
Can't see United winning tbf
i hope arsenal win, i hate united
I think a full strength Arsenal will beat a below strength Man U.
Terbinator
12-03-11, 13:58
Men vs boys.
We'll win. Inflict two knockout blows (us & Barca), hopefully dent their confidence in the race whilst building ours.
ThunderFlash
12-03-11, 14:01
I think a full strength Arsenal will beat a below strength Man U.
Well neither will be full strength....
cant see the gooners winning tbh
not unless they give the ref a fatter envolope than fergie does.
Also on ITV London (we have stv so i dunno whats it's like for everyone in england) tonight, so i will defo be watching :) EDIT - Woops, was in title haha
Should be a close match, i'm sure man utd won't want to lose another match so i hope to see them pushing hard for the win :)
callumburns
12-03-11, 16:20
can see it being goalless the first half then someone scoring in the second half if not being a draw and a cup replay.
Man Utd 2 - 0 Arsenal
Arsenal with lots possession but not enough cutting edge upfront and beaten by an under strength Man Utd team.
we all love United, we all love United nananana.... we do wat we want, we do wat we wanttttttt, we are united we do wat we want! :D
anyways, Arsenal had good chances. Van Der Saar was on form and Arsenal lacked the killer instinct upfront.
AaronWHUFC
12-03-11, 22:54
That's such a muggy song :p
I can see a huge overhaul at Arsenal in the summer. Money needs to be spent.
ThunderFlash
12-03-11, 23:50
Same at United tbf....
AaronWHUFC
12-03-11, 23:52
Same at United tbf....
Agreed, but it's not to urgent IMO. If United can "run away with the title" with their current squad, replacing some of the golden oldies should make them an even better side next year without spending too much. Fergie needs to hold up his hands regarding Bebe, Obertan and the like. Get a top quality CM and someome to play behind the front two and I reckon your sorted.
ThunderFlash
13-03-11, 01:12
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I'm sure this is forum safe unlike my last set of gifs :rolleyes:
Paul Scholes is a genius.
ThunderFlash
13-03-11, 11:33
Meh can't be bothered re-hosting that. You saw it or you didn't
Terbinator
13-03-11, 17:51
God-like defending from us yesterday - definitely got a gem in Chris Smalling who has established himself already and obviously will only get better.
As per my post, hopefully they will crumble now.
God-like defending from us yesterday - definitely got a gem in Chris Smalling who has established himself already and obviously will only get better.
As per my post, hopefully they will crumble now.
Not that good mate. What's with the 6 shots Man U had on target compared to Arsenals 11. Arsenal Didn't deserve to lose at all.
Terbinator
13-03-11, 18:37
Not that good mate. What's with the 6 shots Man U had on target compared to Arsenals 11. Arsenal Didn't deserve to lose at all.
Well, 11 shots no goals, at least objectively suggests a reasonable defence. OTOH the amount of times Smalling got his bullet headers on the job to clear out high balls was too many to count, him and Vidic were solid.
And if they didn't deserve to lose, they just weren't good enough against a midfield that contains O'Shea, Gibson and two brothers.
Arsenals finishing was disappointing. They had a few chances which should have been goals.
Are you saying that the Man Utd goals where good and deserved? Both where saved and landed to manchester players. Arsenal didnt have that luck.
Terbinator
13-03-11, 18:48
Arsenals finishing was disappointing. They had a few chances which should have been goals.
Are you saying that the Man Utd goals where good and deserved? Both where saved and landed to manchester players. Arsenal didnt have that luck.
If the desire is there for you to pick up a stray ball and stick it in the back of the net, yes.
If the desire is there for you to pick up a stray ball and stick it in the back of the net, yes.
There was no desire, it landed right to his feet (No need to move). Rooney's was a harder finish but still landed right onto his head.
Terbinator
13-03-11, 18:54
There was no desire, it landed right to his feet. Rooney's was a harder finish but still landed right onto his head.
He was still there before an Arsenal player.
O/T: What was Djorou's injury? I can't seem to find anything about it anywhere.
I just don't feel like Arsenal should have lost. I though they played better (I probably would though, every time) :) .
He was still there before an Arsenal player.
O/T: What was Djorou's injury? I can't seem to find anything about it anywhere.
Here you go my friend:
Click Here (http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/djourou-to-miss-rest-of-the-season)
you sound very much like arsene wenger, arsenal never deserve to lose
I don't feel arsenal deserved to lose either. They've been knocked out of 3 cups now in 2 weeks, Pretty unfair really - error in the league cup that cost them, bad referee'ing in the Barca game which changed the game completely...
And whats with Man United starting with 7 defenders... absolute joke.
Made it pretty obvious they were just going to count on counter attacking football, and made Arsenal pay.
Man United, arguable the best team in the country at this moment, its a joke to go out and play football with the approach they did yesterday.
ThunderFlash
13-03-11, 23:38
Thing is though, United have been doing that against Arsenal for years now.
Wenger has failed to find a way to counter it. Why should Fergie change that?
Thing is though, United have been doing that against Arsenal for years now.
Wenger has failed to find a way to counter it. Why should Fergie change that?
He doesn't have to.
But Man United could try and show abit of class, and try and outplay and outperform arsenal, and actually deservedly win for once.
All they are doing is running scared of Arsenal, so playing a really defensive, tight, aggresive and counter-attacking game.
I just think for a team of uniteds calibre could come up with something better than that..
Terbinator
13-03-11, 23:57
He doesn't have to.
But Man United could try and show abit of class, and try and outplay and outperform arsenal, and actually deservedly win for once.
All they are doing is running scared of Arsenal, so playing a really defensive, tight, aggresive and counter-attacking game.
I just think for a team of uniteds calibre could come up with something better than that..
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Slight contradiction? or not..
I meant running scared of trying to outperform arsenal. Didn't necessarily mean running scared physically.
And can't blame United, they used a tactic which was tried and tested against Arsenal, and works. Can't argue with that.
Im just saying that for one of the worlds best teams, starting a match with 7 defenders is... well.. just pathetic.
Terbinator
14-03-11, 00:13
Slight contradiction? or not..
I meant running scared of trying to outperform arsenal. Didn't necessarily mean running scared physically.
And can't blame United, they used a tactic which was tried and tested against Arsenal, and works. Can't argue with that.
Im just saying that for one of the worlds best teams, starting a match with 7 defenders is... well.. just pathetic.
Thats more a case of needs must, given our midfield is essentially dead and we have a CL game on Tuesday.
ThunderFlash
14-03-11, 00:25
Terb is right, United have a shed load of injuries at the moment
Anyone see Arsene Wenger on celebrity Mastermind?
0 points but 34 passes
:coat
I don't really see where the 7 defenders come from. Fabio and Rafael are basically wingers playing as full backs like most top full backs in the world (Dani Alves, Maicon etc).
When a defender is versatile and can play multiple positions doesn't mean he is playing his usual role whatever position he may play.
Only matters whats on the scoreboard though really.
Doesn't really matter how you play.
Wish i'd had a bet on Arsenal to not win anything 20/1 most places.
ThunderFlash
14-03-11, 12:28
I bet as soon as Brum beat them that went to odds on!
Most likely.
I don't really bet on things like that but it would've been worth a go.
They can still win the league though but i fancy chelsea have more of a chance tbh.
Enjoyed the game (must admit I'd had several pints and can't remember that much), thought the twins on the wings were great and was a bit gutted they went of. Could be saving them for champs league though. Also think UTD look much more dangerous with Hernandez on the pitch, cracking little player
I don't really see where the 7 defenders come from. Fabio and Rafael are basically wingers playing as full backs like most top full backs in the world (Dani Alves, Maicon etc).
When a defender is versatile and can play multiple positions doesn't mean he is playing his usual role whatever position he may play.
I never said they were all playing in a defensive position, I was just referring to a starting lineup of 11, which included a goalkeeper and 7 defenders. Still stick by my guns and say it was a very defensive strategy, playing a very deep defensive line.
And in responce to Terb, didn't realise you had quite so many midfielders out at the moment, my bad.
I didn't watch the game (just looked at the teamsheets to see who was playing) so I can't comment on how each team played. At the end of the day United went through.
What I find a bit odd is that even though Arsene must know by now that Fergie knows exactly how to counter Arsenals tactics and the way they play, Arsene still doesn't try to adjust his team for it.
I didn't watch the game (just looked at the teamsheets to see who was playing) so I can't comment on how each team played. At the end of the day United went through.
What I find a bit odd is that even though Arsene must know by now that Fergie knows exactly how to counter Arsenals tactics and the way they play, Arsene still doesn't try to adjust his team for it.
Arsene always does, he never changes.
He's very stubborn, and gets Arsenal to play the beautiful game with the approach he believes in.
Whilst I agree that its a great way to play, and is excellent to watch - Wouldn't harm him to have abit of versatility, and alter his tactics once in a while!
Arsene always does, he never changes.
He's very stubborn, and gets Arsenal to play the beautiful game with the approach he believes in.
Whilst I agree that its a great way to play, and is excellent to watch - Wouldn't harm him to have abit of versatility, and alter his tactics once in a while!
Yeah, I agree. It does look great to watch (I love watching Barca play) but if Wenger wants to win something he'll need to adapt his tactics for the bigger teams.
ThunderFlash
14-03-11, 14:02
It's no coincidence that the only time Wenger has played a flexible 4-5-1 in Europe, that was the only time they got to the final
Terbinator
14-03-11, 14:21
Arsene always does, he never changes.
He's very stubborn, and gets Arsenal to play the beautiful game with the approach he believes in.
Whilst I agree that its a great way to play, and is excellent to watch - Wouldn't harm him to have abit of versatility, and alter his tactics once in a while!
Finaly, someone who doesn't just think 'herp derp' this is how football should be played.
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