View Full Version : To Overclock P45, You'll Need an Engineering Degree
PeterStoba
18-05-08, 20:16
Before Intel kills overclocking completely, it seems they want to make it as difficult as possible. According to knowledgeable sources inside MSI and OCZ, gone are the golden days of upping the FSB, tweaking the memory, and adding voltage (http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/05/12/will-you-overclock-intel-s-p45/1) - to overclock on a P45 board, you'll allegedly need to understand - and know how to properly adjust - GTL Reference Voltage, CPU VTT in relation to GTL's, Clock Skews, and CPU PLL Voltages. While some current higher-end DFI, Asus, and MSI boards allow for these settings to be adjusted, leaving them on "Auto" is an oft-used and effective option; soon, among other things, it may be a necessity that we actually measure voltages on the motherboard, because the readings found in the BIOS are too coarse. Because of the highly individualized nature of these advanced settings, we may find ourselves spending hours or days solidifying a stable overclock, and being unable to provide friends even general OC-ing parameters for their rigs.
Yay, the days of pansy overclocking are over. No fun in just increasing the fsb, memory speed and cpu voltage.
That being said, GTL Refs, CPU VTT have been around for quite a while. In anycase, this is what CPU Overclocking is meant to be.
on another note - Some of the stuff you're posting is useful but on which side of the fine line are your recent threads in regards to SPAM?
PeterStoba
18-05-08, 20:21
No fun in just increasing the fsb, memory speed and cpu voltage.
There is!
It's easy but it's hardly an accomplishment. Simply adjusting these won't get you the highest possible overclock for your system anyway. That being said, like most boards nowadays, most of those settings can be left on [AUTO] and people shouldn't have any trouble overclocking without adjusting them.
Essentially, all this article is saying is that the upcoming P45 boards (and the BIOS' designed by mobo brands) will feature BIOS settings that have been around in higher end board BIOS' for a long time anyway.
its not the doing thats the hard part of ocing, and it never really has been, its finding that sweet spot where all the clocks work together seemlessly.
I agree with the stobaspam comment. At least use the occasional paragraph :| :P
I think the beauty with the current boards is that anyone can spend a bit of time researching and then begin overclocking. The learning curve isn't too steep.
So for people already on the overclocking learning curve this new set of required knowledge isn't going to be too much problem.
The real issue would be new people getting into it and finding a learning curve so steep you could hang a picture on it and call it a wall!
How is this going to help mobo manufacturers sell more of their premium high end 'enthusiast' boards? Well it isnt in my opinion because your cutting off the client base at the roots.
Same goes for Intel's processors, except that we wont use intel, we will use amd if amd keep things easy.
thats where software ocing comes in, teaches the basics and never needs a cmos clear.
I could never get on with software overclocking, always seemed to lock up my computer.
Having said that GPU overclocking with ATI tool and Rivatuner is great, but I still flashed the cards bios.
Also I rarely have to clear cmos with my board, even when it hangs.
its the cpr on asus boards thats great, even if you would need to clear the cmos you can hit reset a few times during a failed post and it will do it for you :D
Yeah it certainly saves a lot of time messing about inside the case. Just reboot and away you go again.
But I guess that wont matter if I have to fish about inside my case with a voltmeter! Yikes.
tbh m8 you should be doing that now just to check if your software is reporting you volts correctly anyway.
The volts I enter in bios never match the volts I get in software! I kinda just 'know' my board and what works etc. I dont need no voltmeter, I have an 'understanding' with my mobo.
Ok so why are you guys posting 'lol' and 'rofl' in all these threads?
I didn't do it!
*runsoff*
LOL
Ok so why are you guys posting 'lol' and 'rofl' in all these threads?
see here ;) lol
http://forums.aria.co.uk/showthread.php?t=5326
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Dammit :P
don't report posts just report the stobabot ;)
I think its mean to pick on stoba. He only spammed a bit yesterday, Im sure it wont happen again.
PeterStoba
19-05-08, 16:04
Some of it was spam, i will admit, like in the sidelines it could have all been on topic. But the rest, IMO, was fine.
thats where software ocing comes in, teaches the basics and never needs a cmos clear.
That's a tricky one. Other than AMD's Overdrive tool I'm yet to find a board that comes with a half decent software overclocking tool. Either way, all the lock ups involved in software overclocking just makes the process very painful for little return in my opinion. Then again, it's only orientated to beginners. It does however open a large can of worms arguing that beginners shouldn't be overclocking to start off with if they havn't gone out of their way to just read how it's done.
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