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shawry
15-02-11, 01:38
Just needed to vent really.

Sick to death of the North / South divide rearing its head.

15 exchanges to be upgraded in the Yorkshire/North East area by the end of March 2012.

Thanks BT, that would almost be acceptable if one of them were mine, and the South East wasnt getting 36 upgraded by the end of March 2011.

Toonshorty
15-02-11, 07:41
Still on 8Mb here, head a mile down the road and they'll be getting infinity in Dec 2011 :mad:

No LLU either, Market 1 ADSL Max exchange :(

k3vst3r
15-02-11, 07:50
Well BT will only do where they will make money tbh, so less demand in your area means your waiting longer.

Toonshorty
15-02-11, 07:55
Well BT will only do where they will make money tbh, so less demand in your area means your waiting longer.

That's the problem, there are country areas where maybe profit couldn't be returned and are therefore left.

Which is why we've now got areas with 40-50Mb, possibly 100Mb soon contrasted against areas without a basic ADSL connection.

StuartyB33
15-02-11, 10:40
It doesnt make business sense to run cable to a country area unless there is demand not all villages are bothering to wait for BT though

Village ISP (http://www.ispreview.co.uk/story/2010/04/14/rural-uk-village-of-lyddington-deploys-own-40mbps-broadband-isp.html)

sounds good get your area together and do a petition see if you can get it sorted out?

Cosford
15-02-11, 10:42
^^ agreed.

Get a petition together and if you have enough peeps, they will come and do it for you. Id you think there's enough demand for it, proove it to them with a petition,

michaelkenward
15-02-11, 11:13
Thanks BT, that would almost be acceptable if one of them were mine, and the South East wasnt getting 36 upgraded by the end of March 2011.
These numbers mean nothing.

If anything, they could show that a disproportionate number of northern exchanges will get an upgrade.

Why? Because there may be many fewer exchanges oop north. So, it could be that 5 per cent of southern exchanges are due for an upgrade while 50 per cent of northern exchanges get the treatment.

I live in the fat-cat south, in a village where we have next to zero chance of getting anything faster than 8 Mb/s.

And unlike "poorer" regions of the country, we aren't likely to get "development money" from the EU or other agencies to support the local economy.

Aaron
15-02-11, 11:23
Also in the south here, and still limited to 8mb. Looking at the status of my exchange, there are no plans to upgrade it at all.

Mind you, when I first got broadband, I had a 1mb line which was twice as fast as anyone else I knew had. A normal broadband connection was 512k, and if you even had that it was good, as most people were still on 56k Dialup. I'm not saying that I wouldnt like a faster connection, but 8mb isnt slow..

NickCPC
15-02-11, 11:27
We're about 1.5 miles away (as the crow flies) from our exchange which is supposed to be 8Mb/s enabled... but we have never got over 1Mb/s. It's utterly painful when you're used to >17Mb/s at uni (or 100Mb/s on campus).

michaelkenward
15-02-11, 11:28
I'm not saying that I wouldnt like a faster connection, but 8mb isnt slow..
Agreed. I can stream HD from the BBC. Even on wifi I can stream regular TV.

So, it takes time to download big files. (One opera video can run to a couple of GB.) But what the heck?

Maybe the speed freaks all play on-line games, something I wouldn't know how to indulge in.

Aaron
15-02-11, 11:31
We're about 1.5 miles away (as the crow flies) from our exchange which is supposed to be 8Mb/s enabled... but we have never got over 1Mb/s. It's utterly painful when you're used to >17Mb/s at uni (or 100Mb/s on campus).
Patience is a good thing to have :D ;)

NickCPC
15-02-11, 11:45
Patience is a good thing to have :D ;)
:lol: Even our saintly neighbours have been known to have breakdowns while waiting for downloads! :P

It's ridiculous though - forget HD streaming, and even 360p youtubing needs buffering for a minute or two before you can get any kind of stream going. If I want to download a big file/ISO I effectively have to do it overnight, and srsbsns gaming is pretty hard too as my ping is usually over 60ms.

I think that's pretty bad in this day and age where websites are demanding more and more bandwidth and we KNOW we won't be getting our exchange upgraded any time soon - no way before 2013 at any rate :(

Aaron
15-02-11, 11:59
Yeah, I agree that less than 1mb is pretty bad, especially when we know that the phone networks should be capable of so much more. I actually think its a shame that BT are concentrating on Infinity, rather than improving rural areas to get everyone on an even minimum playing field.. There is a village which is 8 miles from me who don't have their own exchange, and so the run of copper to their houses comes from my town. They barely get 512k..

Having said that, I did once download a 380mb driver update on dialup :D :lol: :lol:

wuyanxu
15-02-11, 12:02
8Mbps enabled means it's ADSL1, if you can get a package that is 20Mbps enabled, you should get faster speeds.

my parents went from Tiscali to Orange, when Tiscali became TalkTalk and tried to rip them off, and going from ADSL1 to 2 meant going from 1.5Mbps to 5Mbps.

NickCPC
15-02-11, 12:15
Our neighbours have tried, they're all stuck on 1Mbps too. Hell, one of the guys in our cul-de-sac is a reasonably high up manager at BT, but it seems to make diddly squat difference. It's not LLU'd or fibre enabled either...

Was it a printer driver Aaron? ;)

Aaron
15-02-11, 12:56
No, it was a sound card driver if I remember rightly.. A monster creative one, that had LOADS of new apps and tools etc.. The drivers themselves were something like 8mb, and the new programs were the rest! :lol: :lol:

But no - HP drivers have been doing my head in recently.. They make the biggest drivers known to man, and then put them on the slowest servers in the known universe. And then when you run them, they say "would you like to download additional enhanced content for these drivers?"

Um..... NO!

Burn-IT
15-02-11, 13:26
With HP you have to do both custom download AND custom install otherwise you do get well over 100Mb of useless stuff (as well??).

Saldash
20-02-11, 11:18
I'm gonna toss a question in here just quick,

I'm on Sky's most expensive "all you can eat" package for TV and broadband, and they (and BT) confirmed that my street was due to have it's fiber enabled by last December..

..the OpenReach guys came and went several months ago, and I have not seen any noticeable difference - my router still says:

DownStream Connection Speed 2045 kbps
UpStream Connection Speed 782 kbps

So what? Do I have to remind sky that their "up to 20Mb/s" clause should now be honored since my line is now capable of 40mb/s?? (30 up / 10 down)

Toonshorty
20-02-11, 11:20
I'm gonna toss a question in here just quick,

I'm on Sky's most expensive "all you can eat" package for TV and broadband, and they (and BT) confirmed that my street was due to have it's fiber enabled by last December..

..the OpenReach guys came and went several months ago, and I have not seen any noticeable difference - my router still says:

DownStream Connection Speed 2045 kbps
UpStream Connection Speed 782 kbps

So what? Do I have to remind sky that their "up to 20Mb/s" clause should now be honored since my line is now capable of 40mb/s??

Sky don't do a FTTC package do they?

You'll need to move over to a BT Infinity package to actually get that 40Mb and you'll also need to use the VDSL modem that BT gave you.

MobiusPizza
20-02-11, 12:05
2MB down here, exchange too far, and lost the BT Infinity Postcode Lottery completely.
All nearby towns next to Coventry are getting upgrades, except Coventry, show you how much of a dump Coventry is.

NickCPC
20-02-11, 12:11
Doesn't Coventry already have 50Mb (100Mb?) cable though?

Toonshorty
20-02-11, 12:16
Doesn't Coventry already have 50Mb (100Mb?) cable though?

http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange/CMCGF

Looks like it - Available in some areas.

C&W have unbundled that exchange, XILO do a 16Mb/1Mb package with Fully Unlimited (No FUP) usage - pretty cheap too.

cruciate
20-02-11, 12:52
Bah. BT infinity.
I have it enabled here and chose to stick with O2.

£8 per month for 9MB vs £24.99 for 31MB.

Now I know simple maths says that is an OK markup, but seriously, how often do you NEED that sort of download?
It makes no difference to web browsing, no difference to gaming, and only really makes a difference when downloading huge files. And that is rare.

I reackon the £204 saved per year sticking with O2 would buy me a GTX 560Ti and would give me more pleasure than saving a few minutes a couple of times a month

Mr. Strawberry
20-02-11, 12:58
i currently get around 6Mbps
no plans on our exchange being updated to fibre either :(

Krusty
20-02-11, 13:44
Don't, I live in Cheetham in Manchester, but no I'm not on the Cheetham hill exchange that's just be enabled nah I'm on Collyhurst one, that's not even on the list, an exchange 1 mile from the city centre and no plans for upgrade, yeah good bye BT, hello Virgin.

And the get you exchange enabled vote they had was a total waste of time too, where the winners with highest percentage of votes to the size of the exchange won. My exchange has 15,000k users on it, one horse exchange has 1050 people, hmm I wonder which will be that harderst to get people to sign up.

If my exchange had around 1k people on it, I would have visited very single one of em to vote.

Aaron
20-02-11, 14:04
2MB down here, exchange too far, and lost the BT Infinity Postcode Lottery completely.
All nearby towns next to Coventry are getting upgrades, except Coventry, show you how much of a dump Coventry is.
I remember when I was in Coventry - it was the 3rd place in the country to get upgraded to a theoretical 8mb, with Bulldog. The rest of the country was still on a max of a 1mb connection. We ended up with 4mb, and it was REALLY fast for the time! :)

andyn
20-02-11, 14:35
Quite happy with Infinity, apart from the homehub router which I'll be replacing soon.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1165899889.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

I'm reasonably close to the Manchester East exchange, and more importantly only about 50 meters or so from the nearest cabinet.

It's probably not the best value-for-money service out there, but since the whole family tend to hammer the internet constantly (even the 2-year-old with cbeebies iplayer :P) and we spend far more time on the internet generally than watching regular TV etc, I don't mind paying a little extra for a nice connection.

It is all a bit of a 'postcode lottery' really.

Aaron
20-02-11, 16:28
No lottery for me. My postcode just isnt getting it :lol:

Mr. Strawberry
20-02-11, 17:06
No lottery for me. My postcode just isnt getting it :lol:
same
BT have no plans to update our exchange

Saldash
21-02-11, 03:10
Sky don't do a FTTC package do they?

You'll need to move over to a BT Infinity package to actually get that 40Mb and you'll also need to use the VDSL modem that BT gave you.

As far as I know, they should. They were advertising it october-ish last year.
I've also had a look at BTs offerings, but they don't offer it until march earliest
and no telling what the price is going to be - shouldnt be much more than sky's £30 broadband package?

StuartyB33
22-02-11, 17:29
sky are trialing Fibre at the moment

http://skyhispeedbb.com/

Toonshorty
22-02-11, 17:36
sky are trialing Fibre at the moment

http://skyhispeedbb.com/

This is interesting, since TalkTalk are planning fibre too.

Except, it's on a resale of BT's FTTC - it's their own network, almost like FTTC LLU.

Safinn
22-02-11, 19:18
I really want fibre-optic!
Signed up for the sky trial even though we cannot get access to it but they are doing work changing my area digital. Hope it means we can get fibre-optic!

ArthurHucksake
23-02-11, 15:25
Glad everyone finally realises Fibre optics are the way forward.

Got a 22MBit down / 1.3Mbit up line atm with Be. Fantastic, but got to move shortly and most likely have to go for Infinity even with their 300GB cap and network managing drivel.

Brutos
27-02-11, 00:49
i live in east london and my exchange has been enable already but it is still unavailable...due then not upgrading the PCP yet ...its not all that rosy down south

Toonshorty
27-02-11, 01:08
From what I've heard BT have only upgraded 40% of some street cabinets for each exchange they upgrade.

Pointless if you ask me.

BT need to get their finger out and actually get something done.

I think there should be a broadband tax that works like this:

50p a month for an 8Mb connection.
75p a month for a 24Mb connection.
£1 a month for a fibre (40Mb+) connection.

That way those that get fibre, help put some money towards those that are less fortunate.

I'd happily pay £1 a month to help smaller communities like my own get better broadband.

Mr. Lime
27-02-11, 01:18
i get 3.2 on a speed test on a line thats supposedly good for up to 20

*sigh* i hate my phone line

no plans for any upgrades of any kind from any company what so ever

gbh4
27-02-11, 08:01
i get 3.2 on a speed test on a line thats supposedly good for up to 20

*sigh* i hate my phone line

no plans for any upgrades of any kind from any company what so ever

Have you run a test from the likes of samknows to find out what speed you should be getting?

Toonshorty
27-02-11, 10:33
i get 3.2 on a speed test on a line thats supposedly good for up to 20

*sigh* i hate my phone line

no plans for any upgrades of any kind from any company what so ever

You want to firstly check your router stats and post 'em here.

My line at 15dB Noise Margin syncs at 4500Kb, with a few SNR hacks I've got that up to 8128Kb.

If you get me your router stats I can tell you if you can boost that speed.

cinek
27-02-11, 10:51
snr hacks? i get 7.5mb/s on a line that also supposed to be good for up to 20mb lol but I'm paying for 8mb :P

Toonshorty
27-02-11, 11:03
snr hacks? i get 7.5mb/s on a line that also supposed to be good for up to 20mb lol but I'm paying for 8mb :P

Again, post your routers line stats (Sync speed, attenuation, noise margin) and I'll tell you what you could get on a 24Mb connection.

cinek
27-02-11, 11:24
Modulation: G.992.1 annex A
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 448 / 7,040
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12.0 / 19.5
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 20.0 / 32.0
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 22.0 / 12.0
Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / TSTC
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Link (Remote): 0
Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
FEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 4,576
CRC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 10
HEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 10

Toonshorty
27-02-11, 11:29
32dB is pretty decent.

You'd get ~11Mb I would think with the noise margin you get now.

Get that down to 3/6dB you could pull towards 14Mb and maybe higher I reckon.

Enter your exchange into this:

http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange_search

See what comes up, if there are any LLU suppliers (list on the right) then tell me who they are.

cinek
27-02-11, 11:30
AOL:
Enabled
O2 / Be:
Enabled
C&W / Bulldog:
Enabled as of 20/05/2005
Orange:
Enabled as of 15/05/2006
Sky / Easynet:
Enabled as of 27/05/2006
TalkTalk (CPW):
Enabled
Tiscali:
Enabled as of 01/12/2006
Tiscali TV:
Enabled as of 01/12/2006

Toonshorty
27-02-11, 11:36
Spoiled for choice ;) - I can only get 8Mb where I live.

My ISP (XILO) offer a brilliant service, they're currenly rated second in ISP Review's Top 50 with an average score of 9.5/10.

http://www.ispreview.co.uk/review/top50.php

I use them for my Home 50 package and I'm really impressed so far. My typical support response time is 4 minutes, yes, minutes!

They do a great package on the C&W/Bulldog LLU.

16Mb Download
1Mb Upload
Unlimited Usage (They don't monitor it, no FUP)

£17.99 a month.

Can't really argue with that can you.

cinek
27-02-11, 11:39
sounds good - but I'm waiting to get fibre optic - another 3 months ;/

Toonshorty
27-02-11, 11:41
sounds good - but I'm waiting to get fibre optic - another 3 months ;/

Ah, you're getting Fibre.

Well, if you get fed up with BT then XILO do a FTTC package too.

Quite pricey though:

http://community.xilo.net/threads/fttc-pricing-initial-launch.1072/

cinek
27-02-11, 11:46
wow that's expensive - might go with either bt or vm

Toonshorty
27-02-11, 11:48
wow that's expensive - might go with either bt or vm

Yeah, although BT aren't much cheaper.

FTTC is generally an expensive product.

ArthurHucksake
27-02-11, 12:15
300GB monthly cap, and you go over that you get stuck on 5MB for 31 days? WTF

When I move, how am I meant to download my Steam library again onto my new machine? Won't be able to. DOH!

According to BT and samknows, expected download is 31MBit. Usually can add a few more onto that, as i've found in the past.

Mr. Strawberry
27-02-11, 12:32
back up your steam library

ArthurHucksake
27-02-11, 13:48
back up your steam library

I can't. It's on the hard drive of the PC that got destroyed, insurance company have scrapped the lot. :cry

Saying that, if I get the new machine before we move I will download absolutely everything on my current line. Be don't seem to care how much I download or ever bother me.

Mr. Lime
27-02-11, 15:22
You want to firstly check your router stats and post 'em here.

My line at 15dB Noise Margin syncs at 4500Kb, with a few SNR hacks I've got that up to 8128Kb.

If you get me your router stats I can tell you if you can boost that speed.

im on a netgear router,

this (http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange/STFERND) is my exchange

this them?

DSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 1531 kbps 605 kbps
Line Attenuation 50.3 db 15.7 db
Noise Margin 7.9 db 15.7 db

Toonshorty
27-02-11, 15:28
im on a netgear router,

where do i find the info

this (http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange/STFERND) is my exchange

According to that you'll be able to get that 16Mb package I was talking about tomorrow :thumb:

*Edit* You got it.

50dB is a long way from the exchange. You could get around 5Mb on ADSL2 and 4Mb on ADSL1.

Still, even at 50dB 1531Kb/s is a little low.

How many phones do you have in the house (landline) and are the connected through other BT sockets around the house?

Mr. Lime
27-02-11, 15:35
According to that you'll be able to get that 16Mb package I was talking about tomorrow :thumb:

*Edit* You got it.

50dB is a long way from the exchange. You could get around 5Mb on ADSL2 and 4Mb on ADSL1.

Still, even at 50dB 1531Kb/s is a little low.

How many phones do you have in the house (landline) and are the connected through other BT sockets around the house?

we have one wall socket connected to a phone, theres another phone but it isnt plugged in to a socket, my best guess is a wireless connection between them

but before we had these and had just the one phone it was no better

so this package thing here?

C&W / Bulldog:
RFS date set : 28/02/2011

Added after 2 minutes:

it says bulldog re part of talktalk and they are horrendous where we are

Toonshorty
27-02-11, 15:36
we have one wall socket connected to a phone, theres another phone but it isnt plugged in to a socket, my best guess is a wireless connection between them

but before we had these and had just the one phone it was no better

Right, you know your BT master socket?

Usually near the front door, looks like this:

http://www.relay-rutlandtelecom.co.uk/images/NTE5/bt_master_socket_2.jpg

MUST HAVE THE LINE DOWN THE MIDDLE

Unscrew it so that it looks like this:

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/images/faq/faceplates/IMG_1346-crop.jpg

Then plug the ADSL filter into the new socket now revealed by removing the faceplate. This will stop any other phones working but means that the loop around your house is no longer used and if you notice a large increase in speed then buy either this:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Brand-New-BT-I-Plate-Interstitial/dp/B002QAO1GQ

or

http://www.adslnation.com/products/xte2005.php

I got the latter but both will do the job.

Took my sync speed from ~4000Kb to ~7000Kb.

*EDIT*

It's Bulldog's equipment in the exchange, but the ISP is XILO - really good ISP.
Always top or second in ISP review's Top 50 and Top 10.

Mr. Strawberry
27-02-11, 15:40
mine looks nothing like that lol

Mr. Lime
27-02-11, 15:41
Right, you know your BT master socket?

Usually near the front door, looks like this:

snip

MUST HAVE THE LINE DOWN THE MIDDLE

Unscrew it so that it looks like this:

snip

Then plug the ADSL filter into the new socket now revealed by removing the faceplate. This will stop any other phones working but means that the loop around your house is no longer used and if you notice a large increase in speed then buy either this:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Brand-New-BT-I-Plate-Interstitial/dp/B002QAO1GQ

or

http://www.adslnation.com/products/xte2005.php

I got the latter but both will do the job.

Took my sync speed from ~4000Kb to ~7000Kb.

*EDIT*

It's Bulldog's equipment in the exchange, but the ISP is XILO - really good ISP.
Always top or second in ISP review's Top 50 and Top 10.

it does look like that but im not sure i want to be going round unscrewing things

when i go to the bulldog website and click on their packages i get redirected to the talk talk website

Toonshorty
27-02-11, 15:42
mine looks nothing like that lol

You either have a very old or new filter.

The old ones are too old to do anything with, the new ones are already fixed from this issue.

Mr. Strawberry
27-02-11, 15:43
most likely a really old one lol

Toonshorty
27-02-11, 15:44
it does look like that but im not sure i want to be going round unscrewing things

when i go to the bulldog website and click on their packages i get redirected to the talk talk website

It's not a problem, it's simply like taking the side panel off your PC.

It's VERY hard to do something wrong, I've done it many times - and I'm 15.

Also, like I said - it'll be Bulldog supplying the cable to support 24Mb so to speak but the actual broadband will have nothing to do with Bulldog/TalkTalk.

Mr. Lime
27-02-11, 15:45
It's not a problem, it's simply like taking the side panel off your PC.

It's VERY hard to do something wrong, I've done it many times - and I'm 15.

Also, like I said - it'll be Bulldog supplying the cable to support 24Mb so to speak but the actual broadband will have nothing to do with Bulldog/TalkTalk.

looking up xilo with my number i get this

We are currently not able to deliver any results on the number entered. This could be because it is a new number, not an active BT Wholesale service or one that is incompatible with broadband.

Toonshorty
27-02-11, 15:47
looking up xilo with my number i get this

We are currently not able to deliver any results on the number entered. This could be because it is a new number, not an active BT Wholesale service or one that is incompatible with broadband.

Who's your current ISP?

Generally unless you pay BT line rental your number doesn't work on that checker.

Post on their forums, Matt (CEO of XILO? Broadband Tech Support King?) will be with you in under 10 minutes I can guarantee, well, within a few hours anyway.

Mr. Lime
27-02-11, 15:51
Who's your current ISP?

Generally unless you pay BT line rental your number doesn't work on that checker.

Post on their forums, Matt (CEO of XILO? Broadband Tech Support King?) will be with you in under 10 minutes I can guarantee, well, within a few hours anyway.

Sky atm

Toonshorty
27-02-11, 15:53
Sky atm

Could be why.

If you ask XILO themselves they should be able to tell you.

Mr. Lime
27-02-11, 15:56
Could be why.

If you ask XILO themselves they should be able to tell you.

so just whack my postcode up and ask what they could do for me? :L

Toonshorty
27-02-11, 15:59
That would work.

Just say I'm looking at your Pro 16 package.

My exchange is: xxx
My postcode is: xxx

Due to go live tomorrow, ask them some questions about the package if you have any.

Boom, sorted.

You could ask about the TalkTalk/Bulldog thing, they'll clear that up for you too.

Mr. Strawberry
02-03-11, 19:29
going to bump this up
just checked this site
http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange/SDCWS
last checked it last night and since then it has changed to saying

FTTC status: Available in some areas
just checked my phone number on BT and says infinity isnt in my area :/
so is it one of the sites lieing or is BT not supplying it but another ISP is and if so what other ones could supply it

BTW i am 802 metres away from the exchange so i would be suprised if i am not in the areas it is in

Toonshorty
02-03-11, 19:35
going to bump this up
just checked this site
http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange/SDCWS
last checked it last night and since then it has changed to saying

just checked my phone number on BT and says infinity isnt in my area :/
so is it one of the sites lieing or is BT not supplying it but another ISP is and if so what other ones could supply it

BTW i am 802 metres away from the exchange so i would be suprised if i am not in the areas it is in

You can either get it but BT haven't updated their systems.

OR

BT haven't bothered upgrading your street cabinet - in some cases they only do 40% of the cabinets to an exchange. Which in my opinion is just stupid - if you're going to start a job, at least finish it.

Mr. Strawberry
02-03-11, 19:38
if it is BT then it is mighty strange because we only got 30 votes for our exchange so that will prove that entire race to infinity a load of rubbish and a waste of everyones time :/

will keep you guys updated

cinek
02-03-11, 20:10
I got the same thing :O

http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange/LSFOR

it was showing 1st june few days ago

Toonshorty
02-03-11, 20:13
What the...

Not my exchange, but the one near me had a date set for 1/12/2011 - that's December!

http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange/NEPH

I think there's a problem with Sam Knows.

cinek
02-03-11, 20:15
agree - I even tried to check for fibre optic from both vm and bt for the exchanges post code - still showing that it's not available

Mr. Strawberry
02-03-11, 20:18
done some asking around and it seems out local ISP wight cable are going to start to offer it some when this month so deffo not a problem with Sam Knows for me

Toonshorty
02-03-11, 20:40
Sam Knows has totally glitched.

The other day Sam Knows had an RFS for FTTC of 1/12/2011.

It also had the following LLU providers: AOL, O2, Orange and TalkTalk.

It now has FTTC in some areas and TalKTalk is no longer an LLU provider there however their TalkTalk members status list shows it as live.

Weird stuff.

Aaron
02-03-11, 21:10
I also think there is something wrong.... Its showing lots of random things, including:

The following services are available in your location:


BT Wholesale ADSL
BT Wholesale ADSL Max
BT FTTC

Which is definitely not available in my area! Well, it shouldnt be anyway! :lol:

Toonshorty
02-03-11, 21:14
I also think there is something wrong.... Its showing lots of random things, including:

The following services are available in your location:


BT Wholesale ADSL
BT Wholesale ADSL Max
BT FTTC

Which is definitely not available in my area! Well, it shouldnt be anyway! :lol:

http://www.ispreview.co.uk/story/2010/09/30/bt-details-159-new-uk-locations-for-its-next-gen-fibre-optic-broadband-rollout.html

See if you're on that list.

So far I've only noticed exchanges with a FTTC RFS date set suddenly go live. The ones that said they weren't getting anything seem to have stayed that way.

Also, has anyone noticed TalkTalk (CPW) suddenly dropping out of the LLU list?

cinek
02-03-11, 21:38
http://www.ispreview.co.uk/story/2010/09/30/bt-details-159-new-uk-locations-for-its-next-gen-fibre-optic-broadband-rollout.html

See if you're on that list.

So far I've only noticed exchanges with a FTTC RFS date set suddenly go live. The ones that said they weren't getting anything seem to have stayed that way.

Also, has anyone noticed TalkTalk (CPW) suddenly dropping out of the LLU list?

not sure if that's reliable - my exchange is on the "Previous BT-FTTC UK Exchange Rollout Updates" but I cable is still not available

Aaron
02-03-11, 21:40
http://www.ispreview.co.uk/story/2010/09/30/bt-details-159-new-uk-locations-for-its-next-gen-fibre-optic-broadband-rollout.html

See if you're on that list.

So far I've only noticed exchanges with a FTTC RFS date set suddenly go live. The ones that said they weren't getting anything seem to have stayed that way.

Also, has anyone noticed TalkTalk (CPW) suddenly dropping out of the LLU list?
Nope not on there..!

Toonshorty
02-03-11, 21:41
Nope not on there..!

Odd.

I've had one (Sam Knows) say fibre is enabled.
I've had another say it's been live since 1/1/1970 :eek:
and another that said it wasn't there at all.

ArthurHucksake
05-03-11, 13:13
Just ordered BT Infinity for the new house, they have increased the FUP to 600GB. Very happy with that. Projected speed is 31MB down / 5MB up.

Perfect!

cinek
05-03-11, 13:39
FTTC status changed for my exchange to RFS date set : 11/06/2011 lol

Toonshorty
05-03-11, 13:42
FTTC status changed for my exchange to RFS date set : 11/06/2011 lol

Yeah, the one near me has
gone up 10 days to 11/12/2011.

I'm not sure they'll mind though since they're on the list of FTTP exchanges and will get 110Mb download and 30Mb upload.

If anyone comes up to me in school and goes "U jelly?" I will actually nerd rage on them.

I get 4Mb download and 0.3Mb upload and 2 miles away they're getting 110Mb download and 30Mb upload.

Life's just not fair.

EDIT: Cinek, looks like you're on the FTTP rollout too!

http://www.ispreview.co.uk/story/2011/03/04/bt-uk-targets-270k-homes-for-110mbps-fttp-fibre-optic-broadband-by-sept-2011.html

cinek
05-03-11, 14:12
wow that's awesome :D hopefully it won't be delayed

gbh4
10-03-11, 14:03
City/town living sods! :p

I think hell will freeze over before BT get to my little village to upgrade it.

joker3327
10-03-11, 14:12
Just read that BT have removed the fair use policy for Infinity

http://www.uswitch.com/news/communications/bt-scraps-fair-use-and-allows-downloads-without-restrictions-800453877/

ArthurHucksake
10-03-11, 18:19
Just read that BT have removed the fair use policy for Infinity

http://www.uswitch.com/news/communications/bt-scraps-fair-use-and-allows-downloads-without-restrictions-800453877/

Weird. I was told the limit was 600GB a week ago. This is great news.

Toonshorty
10-03-11, 18:23
Weird. I was told the limit was 600GB a week ago. This is great news.

It was.

They changed it from 300GB to 600GB, then decided it would be easier to remove the FUP so that they comply with possible ASA rules coming through.

Now all I need to do is buy my own street cabinet and fibre cables :lol:

Josh
10-03-11, 20:32
Only just seen the bit about fair usage. That's awesome :D

duongnt
14-03-11, 14:23
Me too, just seen this and got my upgrade last week, 32 down 8 up. so happy now that the limit is no longer :)

ArthurHucksake
14-03-11, 18:28
Only have to wait till 5th April now. Somehow they are relying on Royal Mail to deliver the kit the same day the Open Fail guy turns up. Yeeeeeah right.

Just activate the line and let me install the stuff so you don't mess up my wiring dammit.

shawry
16-03-11, 16:55
Well BT will only do where they will make money tbh, so less demand in your area means your waiting longer.

My exchange is Catterick Camp, tbh I would of hoped that being the largest Garrison the forces may of pushed for faster speeds as they became available.

But its apparent that I'll be lucky to get any improvement on my existing line.

Cant even take advantage of the decent offers that LLU offers, as the only one in my region is Talk Talk, and I dont like them :(

jamsand
16-03-11, 19:57
We were on a 20mb package with o2 who told us the line only supported 8(after milking us for money for 3 months) and then down graded us when we only got 4 still phoned them up bt came out looked at they're exchange cables and went well will you look at that they're rotten....and then left you know what screw you BT screw you.

monkey_d
22-03-11, 15:55
Still no news for swansea lol, we are always left in the dark XD

AbandonedT
22-03-11, 16:25
I'm stuck with normal BT getting about 6.5Mbs at the moment which isn't bad, what is annoying is my parents who don't need the speed have access to Infinity :(

Mr. Strawberry
22-03-11, 18:32
Want to swap parents
my parents want it but dont have access