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Mother in law help required!
Need a new and cheapish 939 board, to go with:
Ath64 3200
2x512MB elixir (so I'm looking for dual chan)
200GB Maxtor 9 (ide - but might buy a new sata, so recomms for that too?)
Would like firewire port for dig camcorder.
Upgrading not important.
Game play isn't required, but graphics is my main issue with choosing!
Previously had onboard, and would prefer a graphics card. Upgrading not an issue so agp is fine, but pci-e ok, just would be more expensive.
Like the asrock dual board but no firewire, and then could have agp or pci-e. Could get a firewire pci card, but she also has a pci modem, so that's both pci slots used.
There is a nice gigabyte one that has firewire and onboard, with room for pci-e - are they seen as a budget brand?
Previously had eqs m56kp which had everything! - but had lots and lots of problems, so I'm going to rma it to them, after extensive support through their forums. I've always liked abit boards before, but haven't been keeping up to date lately, so feel out of touch.
So to summarise, could anyone make suggestions for a 939 board, with firewire, and some kind of graphics solution. Nothing fancy, just reliable, and proven.
TIA,
J
Mighty_Jah
10-08-06, 13:14
http://www.aria.co.uk/ProductInfoComm.asp?ID=19591
http://www.aria.co.uk/ProductInfoComm.asp?ID=22326
http://www.aria.co.uk/ProductInfoComm.asp?ID=19138
All the 939 Boards Here >> http://www.aria.co.uk/ProductsList.asp?Category=282&SubCat=MBD-939
Pci-e Gfx >> http://www.aria.co.uk/ProductInfoComm.asp?ID=23814
http://www.aria.co.uk/ProductInfoComm.asp?ID=20453
Hope Mother-in-law approves
Personally I'd just chop her up and dispose of her discreetly in black bin bags...!... :lol:
Hope this helps mate..!
Greetz...Mighty... :wink:
Thanks, that Abit looks good, although the customer comment put me off initially, but that was a few months ago, so hopefully the current stock have an up to date bios?
I suppose the cheapest pcie card will do, so jobs a gooden at about £80-90 combined?
Cheers
Edit: Yeah, mother in laws can be like that, but in this case it's my mother that's the real problem :shock:
Edit2: Do you have a preference between the two, they look very similar?
Budget?
And Gigabytes boards are known to be very solid. Anything but Budget 8)
Gigabyte K8N51GMF-9 Socket 939 was the one I saw, as a complete package, onboard and firewire etc - but at only £41 I was scared it was too cheap!
Don't want to spend over £100 on board and graphics together, as it's unlikely to be upgraded or used for games. As I say the main scare I have on the Gigabyte above, would be on bad onboard graphics experiences previously. you have reassured me of their quality though, thanks.
So choices so far seem to be:
Asrock dual + cheap agp/pcie + firewire card - £95ish
Abit board (above) and pci-e - £90ish
This Gigabyte board - £41
I've heard lots of good things about the asrock board but mainly on the upgrade options...
I would go with Gigabyte K8N51GMF-9 Socket 939 .
Use the onboard for now. (Onboard does suck though) And if you ever need better graphics you have the choice to upgrade :D
Thanks guys, much appreciated.
No probs mate. Just lemme know how you get on with that board.
i certainly will, no probs.
However, on deeper investigation I've now been tempted by MSI RS482M4-ILD RS482 Socket 939, at about £45 a similar board to the Gigabyte. Now I'm torn again - time for me to search for some reviews. I'll let you know how I get on. Thanks again for all replies...
J
I recently got an Asus A8N VM CSM and its a cracking little board, emphasis on little as it's matx. Its got onboard nvidia 6150 graphics so its a steup from normal onboard graphics as it has \"some\" 3d capabilities and is pcie so you can fit a better graphics card at a later date.
Also don't count on agp graphics cards being cheaper than pcie anymore
Club 3D Nvidia Geforce 6600GT 128MB agp £100+
Aria Forsa GeForce 6600GT 128 PCI-E £79
XFX 6600GT PCIE 128MB DDR3 EXTREMEG £90 (and as 6600gts go they don't get much better than xfx's)
Just as an example. :wink:
Thanks for replies, if I've now decided to go a different way to your advice, my apologies, I have valued your opinions, but in the see-saw worl of my brain, I've now ended up with this proposal. Gone for Abit in the end, and a budget pci-e card... just to avoid onboard graphics, just feel more assured as I've got Abit at the moment I suppose, and the EQS board I used last has had so many probs (that might not be its fault even).
I've also decided to go SATA for the first time, hope I've remembered every thing.
Abit AX8 v2
Asus 128mb n6600le pcie
Ath64 3200 venice ret
samsung 18x DL dvdrw blk
2x512mb elixir ddr pc3200
250gb maxtor sata2 16mb
4pin molex to sata pwr connector
arianet midi tower2 blk/silv 460w
(plus dodgy blk mse/kbd, floppy, winxp home, no monitor/spkrs needed)
£368inc vat, then postage, about £10?
Any observations? Glaring omissions? Things to watch out for? (I've done 6 'family' builds before, but not an expert by any means) In essence this is a cheap PC, which won't be used for gaming (except solitaire :roll: ), has room for some expansion in the future, although this is rather unlikely. Currently this will be a far too powerful internet, email, dig cam storage/viewing device! But the mother-in-law knows what she wants :wink:
No floppy Disk? :P
I know alot of people dont bother anymore, but i do just incase.
If its only for Solitaire then IMO. Money wasted on a GCard.
But for around £400 Not bad
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Yep, floppy included (but added the list of boring bits in brackets at bottom of spec) - I too can't quite get rid of them yet.
Crazy how under used some of todays PCs are, but some family like new PCs in the same way people do new cars! Which at least keeps me in with a hobby, without spending my own money!!!
Good idea for memory card reader, thanks. I know they have a docking station which connect so to usb, so they never remove card. And the firewire was for dig camcorder footage, into Pinnacle. Actually for oldies they don't do too bad.
Agreed graphics is far too good, but it's my stubborn nature, once bitten by onboard graphics, I'll struggle to go back. I suppose if they get onto this college course for oldies for graphic work, then the pcie card won't go to waste. Sorry, I'd forgotten to mention that!
Apart from that then, looking OK I suppose. Just waiting for the credit card statement to come, then it's buy buy buy.
Ready other threads about Maxtors, I might invest a little more to change to Seagate, but I've always been happy in the past.
Cheers guys,
OK guys, I really appreciated your help. I ordered the Gigabyte K8N51GMF-9 in the end, and I can't get in to POST at all!!!!
Should really start a new thread, but as you are already up to speed, thought I 'd carry on here.
Switch on, and psu fan and cpu fan kick in, plus optical mouse light, power light, then it turns itself off after 3 secs. No post beeps.
I have tried:
-removing all components, and replacing one by one, so its not ram, or power drain from opticals etc
-tried adding a pcie graphics card, instead of onbaord
-removed from case, and connected up on a static free bag, in case the case was shorting somehow.
-cleared cmos (woth shorting header and by removing battery for 10mins)
-checked cpu for bent pins, but seems ok, and only fits one way, and retail heatskin/fan is so easy to fit too, it can't be that.
sure I've tried other things, has taken FOREVER! What else can I try? I've googled and found lots of sob stories, hope I don't have to rma this, as it was bought as a replacement for a eqs mobo system not booting correctly!
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
J
As you have already tried pretty much everything i can think of the not posting sounds like a mobo problem to me, the only other option you can try, assuming you have access to another compatible pc, is to try the cpu in that or the known working cpu in your new setup.
Failing that it might be RMA time :cry:
Keep us updated on how it goes and hope you get it sorted asap.
Thanks Mac, I was afraid you might say that. I don't have any other system at hand to test with, but I'm pretty confident it is the board. I hate rma-ing things. I always worry that companies will claim that the product is fine, and then it starts to egt costly with postage, and testing fees. With so many reviews I;ve now read, I wish I'd gone for the Abit 3rd eye instead (but they were out of stock at the time). I wonder if they will replace with an alternative board of my choice, and bill me the difference?
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Cheers,
It was of course our favourite company, I've asked Lucy whether or not she thinks an alterantive swap is possible. If not I'll try a second Gigabyte... but I've now read reviewers who have had it die after a few months , on their third board etc etc...
Is there any socket 939 with no poor reviews? (Ans: No, probably - the joy of the 'net - too miuch info!)
J
Guys,
Now looking at the msi board above, looks to be a much better spec, only £12 more, Lucy is looking into the possiblity of me having an alternative board (and pay the diff) when I rma the gigabyte. So that's great, if that can happen. You just have to ask, I suppose. I've read lots of good customer reviews on it, which has reassured me. I only managed to find 3 ppl criticise it out of nearly 300 reviewers - that's good enough for me.
When I eventually get this all together, I'll let you guys kno. Just wish I could offer my help, in the same way you have. All I can offer is tips on tiling and grouting! Don't do it when you're 1) Tired 2)Pist and also 3)Make sure you put the lid back on the tub of grout, so when you realise the hash you've made of it in the mornin', you can still do something about it.
Not PC related - but might just help, one day!
Hi again, long time no chat,
Good news or bad news first?
Good news, the MSI board I bought as a replacement is really very good. Easy to set up, and the manual was the best I've seen. Love the live update feature for all drivers, bios etc. One very happy customer!
Bad news, still have the gigabyte board, waiting to rma it! I can't automatically rma to aria, as the form says I must go to Gigabyte. After monaing to them, they agree the board is bad, and should send back to Aria. I can't get through by phone, and no luck with emails! So stuck with a board, and had to pay postage for the replacement (whereas rma replacement would be free) but at least the mother in law can be happy with a beautifully running PC - at last! I'm just £50/60 out of pocket!
Thanks for advice, over and out!
John
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Well eventually got through to Shaun at CServ, who was very helpful, board has been RMA'd for 3 weeks, but now can't get any one to answer the phone or emails, so I can get my money back! Tried PMing Lucy, but can't seem to send them, they all go in my outbox, and never leave! Something strange going on there. Whilst I always delighted with Aria's prices, and delivery, and this forum is great - when will they ever get CServ sorted? This is the worst experience I've had, previously I've recommended them hands down - now I'm not so sure.
However these LCD TV's might just tempt me back? Mmmm
If they are still in your out box it means the person you pm'ed just hasnt received / read them.
I am on a rollercoaster of aria emotions. My PMs have surprisingly not been answered and any attempt to contact Cserv through phone or web have been ignored so many times.
As I see it I'm owed money, and this lack of communication means I have no option to now investigate my options with regard to Watchdog/CAB etc.
Simply unacceptable - and I ask why for so many years I've praised Aria, and reccommended them to so many friends, family and colleagues. I would now be frankly embarrassed to do so.
Low prices and a friendly forum, isn't enough to ensure custom.
I am officially psd off.
Edit: just looked back to PrivatePyles comments:
damn, you really have tried everything.. like macca says, perhaps it is RMA time. if you bought from a reputable retailer, hopefully they aren't going to muck around with claims that it works for them etc etc.. short of testing the CPU in another functioning system, you've pretty much proven that there is a fault.
...and I thought i was dealing with such a company!
Thanks for your help guys, mother in law loves the second PC that I built her, to replace this disaster.
Over and out
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It's all sorted!
Yippeee!!
Thanks to Firerat, for kickin' some butt! Just one of those things I suppose.
Now the question is have I burnt my fingers, or do I really want one of those 200GB Aria Media Centre little boxes...?
Mmm, I might just loiter around the lair a bit longer... :wink:
thanks guys
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