View Full Version : Vultures at the pumps for the sake of £1.75!
Every petrol station i've drove past today has had cars queueing out onto the road, i'd reckon 15-30 minute waits for fuel.
All to save 3.5p a litre before the VAT hike, on an average 50 litre fill up thats approx £1.75 saving.
Personally I wouldn't say a 30 minute queue is worth wasting personal time over to save £1.75!
VULTURES :lol:
100% with you on this one.
Lets remember that they all had their engines running for 30 mins too, burning off £2 worth of petrol to save £1.75
LOL this is funny, like when people drive to a petrol station like 1/2 mile away to save 2p per litre!! :confused:
Yeah but fuel duty went up yesterday did it not? All those people trying to save money by beating VAT could have saved so much more! ;)
hahaha sooo true..
whats gonna be fun is the petrol station we got at work closed at 6pm today for about 6 weeks I think as they build a new one, so they will either have to use the shell across road or texaco around the corner
I drive past a few patrol stations on th way home and noticed unusually large queues too, though until know i didnt think it would be down to the VAT increase
Toonshorty
03-01-11, 20:47
128p a litre at my local garage :eek:
same here, 1.28
Glad i only have to fill up my bike once a month :)
I'm glad I dont pay for petrol :D
watercooled
03-01-11, 21:10
its shocking the price of petrol but we got no choice but to pay it
I'm glad I dont pay for petrol :D
Great Yarmouth has amenities though, and good links to other places. Where I live, you NEED to drive, and hence petrol prices should be lower.
128p a litre at my local garage :eek:
Wish it was that cheep :( 130p at mine :mad:
no idea what v power is going to be next time I fill up
Think thats bad!.. it cost me £25 for 1 us gallon of nitro fuel for my rc cars.. :eek:
http://www.modelsport.co.uk/index.php?product_id=29618
I hear its cheaper in wales
hire a tanker and fill er up completely
then pump it into a handily emptied swimming pool or several bath tubes, then cover :)
Randomly, my basic unleaded at Tesco was 125p before Christmas. Went and stuck £15 in there this afternoon and its now at 123p! :lol:
My local Maxol, etc are all charging 130.9 for a litre of Diesel. It was 126.9 this time two weeks ago.
Is it really worth a couple of quid saving for all that time it took to queue? I don't know about anyone else but I avoid wasting time on things if I am not going to save at least my hourly rate.
I'm so glad I don't drive and have to pay these sort of prices to fill a car up. I'm guessing public transport will carry over the price increase as well :(. Ah well, guess I'll just stick to the old shoelace express.
Mr. Grapes
04-01-11, 12:00
well i happened to be at the supermarket last night, saw the petrol queues and thought "Oh yeah, VAT..." did a quick calc of how much i'd save by getting it then (had about 30 litres of space in the tank) saw the size of the queue (was only about 3 cars between 10 pumps if i went in from the right way) and decided to go for it. only waited about 5 mins which you can do anyway around here.
diesel was 1.26 last night, and i put in 36 litres. so saved a whopping £1.13 (well i needed to fill anyway!) or just under a litre which in my case is about 10 miles of travel.
so that's one day's worth of commute for me.
TBH I'm just glad I'm not doing 40 mile commutes (each way) anymore, as the current prices would be seriously crippling now
I'm so glad I don't drive and have to pay these sort of prices to fill a car up. I'm guessing public transport will carry over the price increase as well :(. Ah well, guess I'll just stick to the old shoelace express.
EVERYTHING is going up and everybody is expected to pay it. Everything except the wages that we get into our bank accounts, that is.
I know everything is going up but filling up a car is way too expensive, even before the vat increase. That's why I haven't learned to drive, way too expensive.
I remember a few years ago before I could drive, bus tickets to Norwich were £2.40 for a 7-mile, 30 minute ride on the bus. When I got my car, I would just drive in. 10 minutes, and it really doesn't cost that much to drive that distance.
That was a few years ago though. Now, I wouldn't be surprised of that trip is around £3.50 or something. The first time the ticket prices went up, there was a notice on the inside of the bus about the rising cost of oil being the cause of the higher ticket price. Then I think the cost of oil fell, ut the ticket price didn't. Then it rose again, and without taking into account the dip in price, the ticket price rose "in conjunction" with the second rise.
Now though, if I'm going to use public transport, I'll use the park and ride. Takes just as long as the buses do, but is only £2 for all day parking and bus travel, or £1.70 if you buy the ticket after 12:30. Cheekily enough though, I noticed one day that the clocks on the ticket machines there are set a few minutes slow though, probably to milk that extra bit of money out of last minute arrivals. I would just stand at the machine and wait for the clock to show 12:30, then buy my ticket.
I remember a few years ago before I could drive, bus tickets to Norwich were £2.40 for a 7-mile, 30 minute ride on the bus. When I got my car, I would just drive in. 10 minutes, and it really doesn't cost that much to drive that distance.
That was a few years ago though. Now, I wouldn't be surprised of that trip is around £3.50 or something. The first time the ticket prices went up, there was a notice on the inside of the bus about the rising cost of oil being the cause of the higher ticket price. Then I think the cost of oil fell, ut the ticket price didn't. Then it rose again, and without taking into account the dip in price, the ticket price rose "in conjunction" with the second rise.
Now though, if I'm going to use public transport, I'll use the park and ride. Takes just as long as the buses do, but is only £2 for all day parking and bus travel, or £1.70 if you buy the ticket after 12:30. Cheekily enough though, I noticed one day that the clocks on the ticket machines there are set a few minutes slow though, probably to milk that extra bit of money out of last minute arrivals. I would just stand at the machine and wait for the clock to show 12:30, then buy my ticket.
I think it all depends on where you live and how much miles you have to travel. I Know for me it's definitely cheaper to commute by train. The price of fuel isn't the only factor in car expenses. There's road tax, insurance, MOT and the price of the car itself.
Saw on news today, season rail ticket was something like £2492 2010, now 2011 it's £2798.
Saw on news today, season rail ticket was something like £2492 2010, now 2011 it's £2798.
£53 a week for train travel, I think i'll stick to the car!
That is just shocking.. And they wonder why people don't use public transport! £53 a week to stand on a cold, uncovered platform in the rain, waiting for a delayed train to maybe turn up at some point.. No thanks..
I blame the short-sighted politicians who destroyed our rail infrastructure all those years ago.
I think last time i worked it out in commute traffic it costs me approx 0.14p a mile, so 12miles round trip £1.68 a day to get to work. insurance about £0.72p a day, road tax £0.44p day, service and MOT about £0.41 a day.
£3.25 a day to avoid the peasant wagon! :D
I think last time i worked it out in commute traffic it costs me approx 0.14p a mile, so 12miles round trip £1.68 a day to get to work. insurance about £0.72p a day, road tax £0.44p day, service and MOT about £0.41 a day.
£3.25 a day to avoid the peasant wagon! :D
What is it if you factor in the cost of the car over it's lifetime?
Are we saying that it's roughly 200 days of commuting a year?
My bicycle comes out at 50p a day. Bit more if you factor in food (fuel). :p
My bicycle comes out at 50p a day.
And you come into work dripping wet. I'll take the engine and roof, thanks ;) :lol: :lol:
And you come into work dripping wet. I'll take the engine and roof, thanks ;) :lol: :lol:
Usually dry with waterproofs, and my work has showers. I'll admit that recently there has been some days where I wished I was in a car (particularly the day I was hit by one). But the bicycle pays for itself within a year. Can't say that if I bought a car for the same commute.
Just a shame that it's not easy for people to live near to where they work. I don't know if I would ever want to work more than a cycle ride from where I lived. If I did then I would probably learn to ride a motorbike to save money.
What is it if you factor in the cost of the car over it's lifetime?
Are we saying that it's roughly 200 days of commuting a year?
My bicycle comes out at 50p a day. Bit more if you factor in food (fuel). :p
Plan to keep car for another 8 years i think, once its got to 150k miles i'll sell so £5k car costs about £1.71 a day as such. So about £5 a day all in including cost of car.
I'm sure a daily train ticket would cost more than that, and i'd need to get a bus too, and commute would go from 30 mins in car, to 2 hours of public transport (including walking to bus/train/cold - rain - fail) i'd also put a cost on the extra 1:30 of personal time (3 hours including commute home wasted time!)
I don't view the car as an outlay though, as its a luxury I couldn't be without, use it at weekends, after work every night, roadtrips, gym, stables, food shop, visiting friends etc etc
Yeah £5 a day is what I was thinking. A lot of money, but when you look at public transport you see it is obviously the only option.
Even if public transport were cheaper you wouldn't have all the other benefits you mentioned. Not to mention reliability. Buses are notoriously bad up and down the country and trains cease to function for days at a time if it snows, of if there are leaves. Such a joke.
Mr. Grapes
04-01-11, 15:11
The first time the ticket prices went up, there was a notice on the inside of the bus about the rising cost of oil being the cause of the higher ticket price. Then I think the cost of oil fell, ut the ticket price didn't. Then it rose again, and without taking into account the dip in price, the ticket price rose "in conjunction" with the second rise.
welcome to the world.
rises in costs almost always get passed on to the consumer, while drops rarely do...
take when VAT dropped to 15% a few years ago... a fair few places claimed it was too much cost to change the shelf prices so just pocketed the difference.
also how many banks have passed on the reduced interest rates of the last couple of years on to mortgages and other loans? barely any, but have trimmed interest rates on savings to pretty much zilch...
OK, now quite a few big retailers are saying they'll eat the cost of the VAT rise in the short term, but in fact quite a few places are rolling out price rises as well (and blaming it on increased VAT)
Mr. Grapes
04-01-11, 15:47
Plan to keep car for another 8 years i think, once its got to 150k miles i'll sell so £5k car costs about £1.71 a day as such. So about £5 a day all in including cost of car.
how old and what is it?
mine cost ~13K new (mostly paid for by my job at the time...) and is now 7 years old with 124K on it.
It's regularly serviced and still runs pretty much as well as the day i bought it.
reckon i'll change it this year depending on a few things, but i'll be lucky to get 1K for it unless i can get a particularly desperate salesman to give me PX against it.
it's had a service every 12K on average of about £350 a time, so add in an extra 3.5K and a typical tank average of 45 MPG (10 miles per litre)
so i've burned 12.5K litres of diesel ranging from about 85p/l to the current 127p/l with the average of about £1.06 per litre costing roughly 13.5K in fuel over 125K miles (7 and a bit years)
purchase cost - probable sale cost(£12K) + maintenance (£3.5K - more like 4K since there have been extra consumables like brake discs and the like too) + fuel (13.5K) and insurance (between 350 and 500 per year so another £3K)
so lets say £32K/125K miles = 27.2p/mile*.
since the sale value has pretty much bottomed out (well as far as makes any difference to the total cost of running anyway) the longer i keep, it the more the purchase price part is spread out, but the purchase price is now dwarfed by the rest of the running costs which will only get higher as parts start wearing out and need replacing (and i mean major ones like alternators and such) so i think now probably is the right time to get rid since the most major part that i've had to replace is the clutch and a starter motor solenoid.
(*lol... I didn't factor in road tax or MOT's... ~£120 per year tax (has been less, is currently more i think) so about £850 and about £60 per MOT (never failed one for more than a wiper blade or lightbulb) - £240 for 4 (doesn't need one for first 3 years)
so there you have it young'uns... the true cost of car ownership :eek:
of course if you're 18, you're probably doing less miles and paying WAAAAAAAY more in insurance ;)
I think I would have to move into a hovel to afford a car based on those calculations! Either that or get a better job...
Mr. Grapes
04-01-11, 15:59
i got a job closer to home and got a payrise at the same time :D
Anyone own a motorbike for commuting? Be interested to see how much it costs to run one. It's my plan B if I was forced to get a job out of bicycle range.
Anyone own a motorbike for commuting? Be interested to see how much it costs to run one. It's my plan B if I was forced to get a job out of bicycle range.
think bigian does
Mr. Grapes
04-01-11, 16:12
if you look at it per year rather than per mile, that's 5K PA
i now do about 10K miles PA with one service, tax and insurance being unavoidable
my tax band has been relatively stable, only going up by about a fiver here and there, my insurance is probably going to go up this year since i was involved in a non-fault accident (even if it's not your fault they still put up the base premium... :( f******) so lets say 450 next renewal
i'm guessing fuel will hit 1.35-1.40 by the end of the year so on average lets say £1300,
MOT, well it's due this month but i'm hoping there won't be any surprises but i'll factor £100
1300 + 450 + 120 + 100 + 350 = 2.3K
so I'm still well under the annual average for the car, if I get more than about 1K's worth of surprises this year, I'll definitely chop it in
Anyone own a motorbike for commuting? Be interested to see how much it costs to run one
In my son's case it literally very very nearly cost a leg and was close to costing him his life when a Range Rover ran into the side of him. As it is he decided to keep the leg, but it still and always will give him a lot of pain. He often says he would have been better off if he had it removed. And sports are out. I have some photos, but they are not very nice and really not suitable for a public forum.
Yes motorbikes aren't without their drawbacks that's for sure. Not much safer on a bicycle sometimes. Sounds like your son was a lucky chap to get away with what he did.
how old and what is it?
;)
Passat TDi 2004 plate, 70k on the clock.
10k a year mileage.
£100 a year for full service (ex VW mechanic :) )
Think thats bad!.. it cost me £25 for 1 us gallon of nitro fuel for my rc cars.. :eek:
http://www.modelsport.co.uk/index.php?product_id=29618
I've not bought any for a while (Infact thats the stuff i buy!) but knew it was getting expensive.
I need to use mine more!:(
I was thinking about filling up the track car but it would mean putting it on the trailer and im also welding in it at the moment. Dont really want to do that with a full tank!:eek:
Great Yarmouth has amenities though, and good links to other places. Where I live, you NEED to drive, and hence petrol prices should be lower.
Oh how I wish it was still so, They've messed about with the roads so much, it's an absolute nightmare with the new bus routs, none of which goes near my house in Gorleston, I have to either walk up from the high street or get on the hopton bus and get of at the college, Mayhem.
Oh, and it's £3.60 for a 2 mile journey from gorleston high street to market gates. Thats why I'm learning to drive.
Anyone own a motorbike for commuting? Be interested to see how much it costs to run one. It's my plan B if I was forced to get a job out of bicycle range.
I'll ask the boss on Saturday if I remember.
Mr. Grapes
04-01-11, 20:23
Passat TDi 2004 plate, 70k on the clock.
10k a year mileage.
£100 a year for full service (ex VW mechanic :) )
nice motor that :) you the ex VW mechanic, or a family member?
heavywater
04-01-11, 20:27
Oh, and it's £3.60 for a 2 mile journey from gorleston high street to market gates. Thats why I'm learning to drive.
Why not walk? :confused:
Oh how I wish it was still so, They've messed about with the roads so much, it's an absolute nightmare with the new bus routs, none of which goes near my house in Gorleston, I have to either walk up from the high street or get on the hopton bus and get of at the college, Mayhem.
Oh, and it's £3.60 for a 2 mile journey from gorleston high street to market gates. Thats why I'm learning to drive.
I'll ask the boss on Saturday if I remember.
£3.60 for a fixed route short journey, which stops every few minutes, stinks, steamed up windows, chavs playing music, public transport needs banning! :lol:
Added after 7 minutes:
nice motor that :) you the ex VW mechanic, or a family member?
its a friend who started his own business when he left VW, he does better for himself than working for VW, and customers save £200+ per service!
Couldn't find many better cars for £5k, needed a ride that would fit a full mountain bike in the back without hassle of taking wheels off etc
Had to give good mpg (600 miles per tank)
Wanted air conditioning (climatronic very nice indeed)
and at only 70k miles with full service history and cambelt changed, with heated leather seats, rear parking sensors, dimming rear view mirror, rain sensing wipers, projector headlights to fit HIDS directly, 130 horses under the bonnet, 285 nm torque at 1750 revs a lot of car for the money :clap
I do, but when It's snowy/cold/raining, you get that feeling of ''can't be arseness'' and get the buss
ThunderFlash
04-01-11, 23:17
Petrol prices-up
Train prices-up
Bus prices- up
Soon:
Walking prices- up
Mr. Grapes
04-01-11, 23:33
its a friend who started his own business when he left VW, he does better for himself than working for VW, and customers save £200+ per service!
there was a place near here that was similar. the owner was ex VAG and the service was excellent. well respected VW specialist in the area. when i had my A4 it always went there.
not long after i got my current car, they sold the biz and the new owners ran it into the ground, with loads of dodgy staff etc...
I do, but when It's snowy/cold/raining, you get that feeling of ''can't be arseness'' and get the buss
Yeah, that's how it is with me. My house to the post office is just under 1 mile; that's a 10-15 minute walk. Then if I'm walking home again, that adds up to 20-30 mins. Not to mention in snowy/icy conditions, the footbridge over the Bure is simply impassable on foot, as is the footpath at the bottom of my hill.
I'll happily walk that route in the summer though!
heavywater
04-01-11, 23:43
the owner was ex VAG
But they're a dude now?
Indeed, I'll walk to Yarmouth train station in the summer any day of the week to get to norwich during the summer, hey, it may take me 40 mins, bit's a luurrvley day! :D
Yeah, that's how it is with me. My house to the post office is just under 1 mile; that's a 10-15 minute walk. Then if I'm walking home again, that adds up to 20-30 mins. Not to mention in snowy/icy conditions, the footbridge over the Bure is simply impassable on foot, as is the footpath at the bottom of my hill.
I'll happily walk that route in the summer though!
When your older you might see it as a good thing living out in the sticks! away from the rat-race and all that :+1
there was a place near here that was similar. the owner was ex VAG and the service was excellent. well respected VW specialist in the area. when i had my A4 it always went there.
not long after i got my current car, they sold the biz and the new owners ran it into the ground, with loads of dodgy staff etc...
Thats a shame, this guy does audi/seat/skoda too, all vag group.
He fitted a re-con engine to my old passat for £900 inc labour! VW wanted £2500 just for the engine :lol:
My commute is only 3miles so i use the peasant wagon its £11 for a weekly ticket but noticed yesterday the now advertise it as no price rise since 2009 in other words its going up soon folks!
Soon as the weather gets better its back on my bike :weeee
Mr. Grapes
05-01-11, 10:18
i'd love to take my bike to work for the 4 miles that it is, but unfortunately, there's a huge valley just before i get to the office, (with a junction at the bottom, so no fast-down roll-up...) and no showers in the office, so can't really pull that one off without getting lynched by my co workers...
coiler, what part of the country are you in?
My commute is only 3miles so i use the peasant wagon its £11 for a weekly ticket but noticed yesterday the now advertise it as no price rise since 2009 in other words its going up soon folks!
Soon as the weather gets better its back on my bike :weeee
i like it, they pre-empt you in an almost subliminal way :lol:
i'd love to take my bike to work for the 4 miles that it is, but unfortunately, there's a huge valley just before i get to the office, (with a junction at the bottom, so no fast-down roll-up...) and no showers in the office, so can't really pull that one off without getting lynched by my co workers...
coiler, what part of the country are you in?
manchester :D
Mr. Grapes
05-01-11, 16:59
manchester :D
poo.
am considering a VW product again for my next motah and the main thing putting me off is high cost of stealer servicing and lack of a specialist that i trust anymore...:rolleyes:
The stealership service pricing is truly disgusting!
It's a lot of money for a stamp really isn't it, not even like you get it back in the long run is it.
Locals for me, used the same family run garage for about 20 years.
BurningFeetMan
06-01-11, 10:23
£2 a litre by Xmas I reckon, over £100 to fill up will bring a tear to my eye!
Prices are stupid. Government are greedy gits
I paid £15 for 14.58 litres.
Thats VERY good?! Where was that from?! :lol:
Mr. Grapes
14-01-11, 12:47
a farm perhaps?
not red diesel by any chance? :ninja:
Checkers Xpress. :thumb: And a free car wash with £12 or more fuel.
Ah yeah course.. You don't count.. :lol:
Mr. Grapes
14-01-11, 13:30
doh, should've looked at location...
Ha. :D There was one guy who was selling petrol at (I think) 86p per litre.
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