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I just bought the Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 OEM from aria yesterday with an Abit AB9 Pro motherboard and 1Gb of OCZ PC 6400 RAM. When I try to load up the system, it goes through some checks, and then tells me: 'A Disk read error occurred.' I think this is because I need to reinstall Windows XP on the hard drive.
The hard drive is a Maxtor Diamondmax Plus 9 IDE, and I have a LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-823S as the slave on the cable.
The problem is, when I set the DVD drive as the primary boot device, and put the XP CD in the drive, it does not boot from the disk, or give me the option to.
My question is this: Is this because I have an IDE hard drive and optical drive on the same IDE cable? And if so would getting a SATA II HDD solve the problem?
If this is not the case, any help would be appreciated.
Michael.
Mighty_Jah
03-08-06, 10:40
Hi mate...I would stick 1 IDE cable on each.device..just to get the Master HD and First boot device...up n running..and attach any extra drives later...when its installed....set em all to CD/DVD on first boot...itl sort its own head out...when it comes to install.
Master HD in IDE 1 Slot
DVD in IDE 2 Slot
Jumper any other drives...accordingly when its up n running...!
Hope this helps dude... :wink:
Mighty... :wink:
[quote:da83f8e00a=\"michael\"]I just bought the Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 OEM from aria yesterday with an Abit AB9 Pro motherboard and 1Gb of OCZ PC 6400 RAM. When I try to load up the system, it goes through some checks, and then tells me: 'A Disk read error occurred.' I think this is because I need to reinstall Windows XP on the hard drive.
The hard drive is a Maxtor Diamondmax Plus 9 IDE, and I have a LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-823S as the slave on the cable.
The problem is, when I set the DVD drive as the primary boot device, and put the XP CD in the drive, it does not boot from the disk, or give me the option to.
My question is this: Is this because I have an IDE hard drive and optical drive on the same IDE cable? And if so would getting a SATA II HDD solve the problem?
If this is not the case, any help would be appreciated.
Michael.[/quote:da83f8e00a]
First of all I would always recomend that you keep Optical ATAPI Drives and PATA Drives on Separate IDE Cables, it will still work on the same cable but the performance will not be as good. Infact where posible only have one drive on each cable, in the case of two PATA drives this will improve performance when transfering files between them.
SATA drives are the way forward, they are faster and the cables are much neater. However I don't belive that this would solve your problem as the 'A Disk read error occurred.' could be due to a dirty or scratched CD.
Have a look at the CD and clean off any smudges with a damp cloth, use a bit of detergent if its not coming off easily.
if scratched and depending on how badly scratched it is
Procare CD Surface Scratch Repairer (http://www.aria.co.uk/ProductInfoComm.asp?ID=22268)
may be able to repair it
Hmm, just re-read your post, the read error is with the Hard Drive!
Make sure that all the cables are connected properly
get copies of PowerMax and Maxblast from
Maxtors Support Site (http://www.maxtor.com/portal/site/Maxtor/menuitem.8db0c3d6932ced37294198b091346068/?channelpath=%2Fen_us%2FSupport%2FSoftware+Downloa ds%2FView+By+Category%2FDesktop+Storage%2FDiamondM ax+Family)
PowerMax will test the drive, Maxblast will prep it for install
BTW Maxblast will wipe out your Data!!!
it might be worth investigating further before useing MaxBlast
Thanks for the quick replies.
@ Firerat: There is not a problem with the hard drive, as I reinstalled my old mobo/processor/ram and it loads windows up fine. No problems at all.
@Mighty_Jah: There is only 1 IDE Slot! >.<
I personally think the problem is to do with having optical drive and pata hard drive on the single IDE cable. This review ( http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2799 ) says that Abit removed PATA support, but according to the technical support guy at Aria, and the motherboards manual, i can have an IDE hdd, but the guy at Aria said IDE HDD OR Optical Drive. I think that could be where the problem lies.
There is nothing wrong with the hard drive, i think it tells me 'disk read error' because i need to reinstall windows. But with the optical drive as the slave, it isnt booting from the CD when it is set as the primary boot device. But Im not 100% sure.
I've just read a review on the Abit AB9 Pro motherboard, and it seems Abit have removed support for IDE hard drives, the IDE port is just for optical devices. The board is intended for use with SATA hard drives only.
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2789&p=2
I think you're going to have to buy another motherboard, or buy a new SATA drive.
Thanks a lot. Thats what I needed to hear =P. Im going to get a SATA HDD today, so hopefully it will work! I was planining to get a SATA HDD in the near future, but afer just spending £600 on the processor, motherboard and RAM, I'm kinda skint. SATA here I come!
I will post later on, when I get home from work and sort it out to so if it installs properly. Thanks for the help everyone.
Michael.
EDIT: I think the manual says you can have an IDE drive because it is also the manual for the AB9 too rather than just the AB9 Pro.
Hmm, Yeah reading the manual it does surgest that you can use an IDE Hard Drive
I've asked Tech if they can confirm that only Optical Drives work
Edit , DoH I hate Typos
There wouldn't be a IDE slot if you couldn't use IDE HDD.
Right... remove your hard drive and cd drive from the system.
Look on the back of your hard drive for this.
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/4159/hd21uu7.jpg
Right now you need the little plastic jumper on Cable Select.
Do exactly the same for the CD Drive.
________________________________________________
Now put everything back.
Enter the bios and have the 1st boot device set to CDROM
The enter your Windows Disc. Lemme know if that works.
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Goodluck 8)
[quote:5453a277ff=\"Belso\"]There wouldn't be a IDE slot if you couldn't use IDE HDD.
Right... remove your hard drive and cd drive from the system.
Look on the back of your hard drive for this.
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/4159/hd21uu7.jpg
Right now you need the little plastic jumper on Cable Select.
Do exactly the same for the CD Drive.
________________________________________________
Now put everything back.
Enter the bios and have the 1st boot device set to CDROM
The enter your Windows Disc. Lemme know if that works.
________________________________________________
Goodluck 8)[/quote:5453a277ff]
The Problem is that Intels ICH8R Chipset does not support PATA, Optical Drives may work as the are a kind of SCSI Emulation ( ATAPI )
From the board layout in the Manual I can't see a separate IDE Contoller
I'm pretty sure the board doesn't support IDE hard drives. In the review I was reading, they specifically commented that Abit had dropped IDE support, and they thought maybe Abit had made the decision a generation too early and should have waited until their next generation of boards were released.
[quote:3e1edb2946=\"Barley\"]I'm pretty sure the board doesn't support IDE hard drives. In the review I was reading, they specifically commented that Abit had dropped IDE support, and they thought maybe Abit had made the decision a generation too early and should have waited until their next generation of boards were released.[/quote:3e1edb2946]
I think when you say Abit you actually mean Intel, as it is Intel that make the ICH8R Chipset which dosn't support PATA nativly
Only one way to find out 8)
[quote:f644eab724=\"Belso\"]Only one way to find out 8)[/quote:f644eab724]
Yeap
Suck it
[quote:f30775e648=\"Firerat\"][quote:f30775e648=\"Belso\"]Only one way to find out 8)[/quote:f30775e648]
Suck it[/quote:f30775e648]
8)
Ok, I have now bought a SATA II HDD; I was going to get one soon anyway. I will try with the jumpers like you said Belso, but at least it should work with the SATA HDD if that fails. I will post back later.
Thanks again.
[quote:b6e3c34d5f=\"Firerat\"][quote:b6e3c34d5f=\"Barley\"]I'm pretty sure the board doesn't support IDE hard drives. In the review I was reading, they specifically commented that Abit had dropped IDE support, and they thought maybe Abit had made the decision a generation too early and should have waited until their next generation of boards were released.[/quote:b6e3c34d5f]
I think when you say Abit you actually mean Intel, as it is Intel that make the ICH8R Chipset which dosn't support PATA nativly[/quote:b6e3c34d5f]
Potayto potato...
So I'm home, Ive installed my Seagate Barracuda 160GB SATA II HDD. Everything's going nicely, windows install boots from the CD, then BAM! Blue screen saying 'A problem has been detected and windows hasshut down to protect your computer.'!! Any ideas?!
EDIT: I have got round the blue screen of death. I needed to load the AHCI drivers from the floppy disk. But now the windows install hangs on Setup is starting up windows. HELP!
EDIT2: ARG! BSOD is back, I might cry if this doesnt work soon!
EDIT3: Finally! I am please to announce it is working! Thank you all so much for your help. I think I would have gone insane if I didnt get it sorted soon. Thanks again.
Michael
Right, here is what happened.
Basically, I kept getting the BSOD because the XP install didnt have SATA RAID drivers. Me being so naive, didnt think to install these using the F6 function because I dont have a RAID array set up. So basically I tried, after a period of desperation and guessing that this may be the problem, so first I tried the Intel SATA RAID AHCI driver. Slight avail - lack of BSOD, however the install hung. Then after a few more goes, I finally got round to the JMicron SATA RAID drivers, this let me do the install successfully. I was right in originally thinking that my IDE HDD was the problem, as evidently it was.
I hope other people who have this same kind of problem can search forums and find this, because it can be very, very frustrating, and it is upsetting to see £600 worth of hardware sitting on a table doing nothing. So if you get a BSOD with an 0x0000007B windows stop message on trying to install windows on a SATA hdd use the driver floppies. If you get an Abit AB9 Pro motherboard, make sure you have a SATA HDD.
Thank you all again for being very helpful! You are a great community.
Michael.
Respect to you Michael,
a lot of people would have simply given up and decided that it was all faulty and demand RMAs and explanations as to why they had been sold faulty goods.
I hope to follow this up and make it clear on our web site that the IDE on boards with Intel's ICH8R chipset only support Optical ( ATAPI ) drives.
Many thanks for the feedback, I have learnt something today :)
I fancy getting one of these boards myself now :o
I've had an itch this past week to upgrade from my ageing Abit IC7 / P4 Canterwood 2.4
its over 3 years old now,
Think I'll underclock it and stick it under the telly soon ;)
I would recommend this board to anyone who asks. It is really good. Quite an odd deisgn but quite novel really. It may just seem brilliant to me because I just upgraded to a Core 2 Duo E6700 from a 2.8 Ghz P4 =P.
Also, I dont like giving up. Well, not on computers anyway =P
I'm really glad you got it sorted in the end, and I'm glad we could all offer our assistance :)
Did u try my idea? I failed :(
[quote:9913580a25=\"Barley\"]I think you're going to have to buy another motherboard, or buy a new SATA drive.[/quote:9913580a25]
Or a PCI PATA card would do the trick, too.
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