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moonloops
20-12-10, 10:06
Hi folks, I recently bought this PC and it is running like an absolute dog and I don't know why. I installed windows XP (with SP3) and it really struggled with more than one application running. It would often freeze for a few minutes (windows explorer).

No settings have been changed in the BIOS and I have installed all the latest drivers.

To rule out XP not having the right drivers etc as a test I installed a spare copy of vista and again windows explorer hangs randomly.

This is without any antivirus software running so I can rule that out.

Any ideas on what it could be. The base spec of the PC is an AMD II triple core running at 3.1ghz, 2GB of RAM.

Running windows update puts a 50% load on the CPU ??

regards
IanS
20-12-10, 10:28
Try running memtest, to test the RAM. Also test the hard drive, using the manufacturers diag.
Hirens Boot CD (http://www.hiren.info/pages/bootcd) or Ultimate Boot CD (http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/) will have the tools to do these tests.
Spaceboy
20-12-10, 10:40
Yeah, second IanS's suggestion :thumb:
moonloops
20-12-10, 11:30
Well memtest ran without any errors

It reported correct processor speed and also that the memory was transferring @ 4911 Mb/sec.

CAS =2.5-1-7-1

Just checking the rest out.
Pepp77
20-12-10, 11:37
Well memtest ran without any errors

It reported correct processor speed and also that the memory was transferring @ 4911 Mb/sec.

CAS =2.5-1-7-1

Just checking the rest out.

Are you sure!!!
moonloops
20-12-10, 11:44
Are you sure!!!

Yep memory timings are set to auto in the BIOS.

Just run memtest again and this is what it comes up with:

RAM: 519mhz (DDR1038) / CAS : 2.5-1-7-1 /DDR-1 (128bits)
Pepp77
20-12-10, 11:46
Im assuming this is the PC you have http://www.aria.co.uk/Systems/Home+Range/Proteus/Proteus+Flash+Triple+Core+Home+PC+?productId=41991

If so those RAM figures seem very very very wrong!!
Nifty
20-12-10, 11:49
Yeah the RAM speeds are totally wrong! Should be 9-9-9-24 running at 1333.
moonloops
20-12-10, 11:53
Im assuming this is the PC you have http://www.aria.co.uk/Systems/Home+Range/Proteus/Proteus+Flash+Triple+Core+Home+PC+?productId=41991

If so those RAM figures seem very very very wrong!!

Yes that's the one. The PC came all configured with two sticks of Mushkin Silverline 1GB

What memory timings should it be ? I'll have to set them manually in the BIOS I guess!

Added after 2 minutes:

Just checked the BIOS and the auto setting has them at 9-9-9-24 which I guess is correct?
moonloops
20-12-10, 12:07
OK just ran the version of memtest from hiren's boot CD v 4.15b and that reports 9-9-9-24 and correct speeds.

The version of memtest I used before was v3.5a and obviously duff

ps. I have also moved the RAM to the correct slots on the mobo to go dual channel.
Nifty
20-12-10, 12:11
Did you install all the latest motherboard chipset drivers?
moonloops
20-12-10, 12:48
Did you install all the latest motherboard chipset drivers?

Yes I did on XP. Not yet done on the vista install. Here's the benchmark results from novatest..

20/12/2010 12:42:42
Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate
AMD Athlon II X3 445 @ 3114 MHz
Graphics Card: Radeon X1900 Series

2044 MB System RAM (Score: 106)
- RAM Speed: 3710 MB/s

CPU Tests (Score: 312)
- Floating Point Operations/Second: 76779009
- Integer Operations/Second: 238841367
- MD5 Hashes Generated/Second: 795054

Graphics Tests (Score: 104)
- 3D Frames Per Second: 326

Hardware Tests (Score: 22)
- Primary Partition Capacity: 298 GB
- Drive Write Speed: 53 MB/s
SilveR_172
20-12-10, 21:23
Go in the bios and change from auto and set the ram to the correct timings see if that helps in anyway
moonloops
20-12-10, 21:58
Go in the bios and change from auto and set the ram to the correct timings see if that helps in anyway


Already done, it was the version of memtest that was reporting wrongly.. thanks anyways.
IanS
21-12-10, 10:04
Did you run the hard drive diagnostics?
moonloops
21-12-10, 10:19
Did you run the hard drive diagnostics?

Yes, ran the WD drive diags late yesterday - all clear no errors.

I'm leaning towards the ATI drivers, just it seems to run much better on vista than on XP which is not supposed to happen.

Likewise the realtek ethernet port doesn't work with the latest realtek drivers and so had to go back to previous version.

I think the mobo is just really fussy about drivers.

It seems to be running OK at the moment :confused:
Nifty
21-12-10, 11:35
It seems to be running OK at the moment :confused:

Don't fix it then :p
death
22-12-10, 15:28
if u probs carrie on make a post in the care part of the forums mybe they can help u since u got it from aria