19" or 22"?

[CallumRogan]

Hey!

I cant decide whether its worth spending an extra £40-£50 on a 22" monitor, if i baught the 19" i would be able to buy slightly better components for my box and the 22" is stretching my budget massively!

Dimensions (roughly viewable display)

19" - 25cm Height, 41cm Width
22" - 30cm Height, 47cm Width


is it worth the extra?

Callum

[PeterStoba]

How much are they and which ones? and what components are you buying so we can recommend buying a cheaper monitor and a better cpu or something...

[CallumRogan]

im looking at the 19" Hanton H310 LCD Monitor - Black - #28993 £103
and the cibox 22" monitor £150

Parts List:

Intel Pentium Dual Core E2140 1.6GHz (Retail 775) (to be OC'd)
Thermaltake Soprano - Black, Window Side Panel
LG GSA-H66NBAL 20x DVDRW/RAM Black - SATA
OCZ Vanquisher CPU Cooler
nVidia GeForce 8400GS 256MB PCI-E
250Gb Western Digital Caviar SE SATA 8MB
Patriot 2GB PC2-5300 Extreme Performance (2x1GB)
Asus P5ND2-SE Intel LGA 775 nForce 570
TP-Link 108M Wireless PCI Adaptor
Logitech Cordless Desktop EX 110
OCZ 500W StealthXstream Power Supply

Those parts come to £325

and i didnt really want to go above £450 including a monitor

[PeterStoba]

It's only £25 over, and you'll see a good imporovement, i take it you will be gaming?

[Amie]

Bare in mind that when you use a 22" monitor you will need to change the resolution in your games, make sure that your games can run smoothly at that resolution.

Amie x

[CallumRogan]

no i dont game that much but i will be using the monitor to watch dvd's etc from 7feet away

[PeterStoba]

22" then, if you can afford, it has a better response time

[dpkyle]

22>19 :lol:

[cleggypdc]

indeed, 22" > 19"

But please dont get the cibox one!

get this one

28878

or

26131

These ASUS monitors are a little more expensive, but they have a 2ms response rate and are basically...

http://static.flickr.com/50/153999819_b9fc02afe4.jpg
(the bee's knees)

[CallumRogan]

those asus are way outta my price range

[cleggypdc]

The iiyama 22" would probably be the next one i.m.o

28349

[CallumRogan]

whats wrong with the cibox?

[mac124]

If you aren't gaming then i would suggest the bigger monitor, i would also suggest the patriot 6400 memory, £5 more but will increase performance and will be better for overclocking (which you say you want to do).

If you want to save a few pounds go for the Akasa Zen case, not quite as "pretty" as the Soprano but still a very very good case for the price.

[cleggypdc]

theres nothing 'wrong' with the cibox, i'm just recommending better monitors for gaming

[Micky007]

22" all the way

[CallumRogan]

Im gna go for 22" monitor

and ive decided to save myself £10 and go for a 160GB HD, as im not going to fill that much in a long time anyway, ill get a bigger one, when needs be! As its much cheaper to upgrade HD than monitor.

[Amie]

Ahh! confuzzlement, i read that wrong, cheaper to upgrade HD (as in HDTV) than monitor lol, i'm used to HDD :P

[CallumRogan]

ha sorry :P i always you HD because hard disk drive always sounds wierd to me :P!

just to check, the mobo i have chosen is good for OC'ing that processor right? as ive never OC'd before im not definately sure!

[mac124]

Hmm i have just checked and that mobo doesn't seem to be C2D compatible....:(

I'll have look see whats what with another, hopefully similarly priced mobo.

Well i think you are going to have to up the price on the mobo a tad, the XFX is about the cheapest i can recommend that offers decent overclocking capabilities. It works out about £15 more than the one you chose so its not a buget busting change.

XFX MB-N650-IUL9 NF650i http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Motherboards/Socket+775+%28Intel%29/XFX+MB-N650-IUL9+NF650i+Ultra+Socket+775+Motherboard+?productI d=28093

[CallumRogan]

that mobo is c2d compatible it says so on the asus and another retailers website that it is compatible, is it not a good OCing bored then or did you was your previous post based on that it wouldnt be compatible with my processor?

[mac124]

I think you may have been looking at the wrong mobo, do a search for the EXACT mobo on asus's website and it says its only compatible with

- Socket 775 for Intel Pentium D / Pentium 4 / Celeron (same as is listed on Arias website too)

http://www.asus.com/search.aspx?searchitem=1&searchkey=p5nd2+se << check here.

[CallumRogan]

yes it does then below it says

LGA775 Intel Core™2 Processor Ready
This motherboard supports the latest Intel® Core™2 processors in LGA775 package. With new Intel® Core™ microarchitecture technology and 1066 / 800 MHz FSB, Intel® Core™2 processor is one of the most powerful and energy efficient CPU in the world.

[mac124]

Have you got a link? Because nowhere under the specs on Asus's website can i see anything along those lines.

[CallumRogan]

http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=479&l4=0&model=1497&modelmenu=1

it says there, also if it turns out this isnt a good choice, how about this one


Asus P5KPL-VM, iG31 LGA775 Core2 Quad / Extreme / Core2 Duo (https://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Motherboards/Socket+775+(Intel)/Asus+P5KPL-VM%2C+iG31+LGA775+Core2+Quad+%2F+Extreme+%2F+Core2 +Duo+?productId=28610)

[PeterStoba]

I have the P5KPL-VM, looks good, supports quad and core 2 duo, and the new Penryn range, PCI-e x16, SATA, i'd go with that

[mac124]

The p5k would certainly be more future proof than the p5nd as it supports 1333 cpu's. Still not 100% sure if the original mobo supports c2d, one page says it does another doesn't list C"D???

The XFX would still be better than the p5k though for overclocking as micro axt mobo's aren't usually that good where overclocking is concerned.

[CallumRogan]

hmm, so the the i cant really spend any more than £45 on the mobo, as long as it supports the items that are in post #2 and i can OC (id like to get the e2140 to around 2.4Ghz?) on it, i dnt really care how future proof it is, so any ideas

[PeterStoba]

P5KPL-VM

[CallumRogan]

Peter, mac said it woudnt be good for OCing

[PeterStoba]

Nobody mentioned that to me when i asked for advice :|

[CallumRogan]

well have you tried OC'ing on it?

[PeterStoba]

Not built the system yet, but i can't see how the mobo wouldn't allow you to overclock, all you need to do it edit FSB and voltages?

[CallumRogan]

Well ive never OC'd before so i dont actually know what to do, im just going on what people have told me

[mac124]

The micro atx boards tend to be poorer overclockers than their full size counter parts there are 1 or 2 that are almost as good BUT they are way out of your price range.

I have had a look around and i can't find a decent review of the Asus P5KPL-VM anywhere as it is still a relatively new board.

The XFX is only a few pounds more i would SERIOUSLY consider that if i were you as i KNOW it is a decent overclocker. http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1106 review here.

[PeterStoba]

Does that fit in a standard case, mac?

[mac124]

The XFX? yes its a standard ATX size. So if your case takes ATX mobo's it will fit perfectly.

[coiler]

Well ive never OC'd before so i dont actually know what to do, im just going on what people have told me


Callum if your not gaming there really is no point OC'ing. The spec your looking at will more than easily play a DVD and browse net, photo editing etc at stock speeds. 8)

[tystar]

I've got this screen and it's great for gaming and dvd's

http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Displays/Monitors/TFT+20+-+23/22%22+CiBox+Widescreen+TFT+-+DVI+-+Black+?productId=27976

[Lynx]

I have that exact board, its running my E4500 at 2.7 I havent fiddled to make it run stable at higher clocks, but sometime when im not doing exams i will organise that and do some super pi benchies.

[mac124]

You have the XFX right?

[CallumRogan]

I just went for it and ordered my parts last night!

http://scupe.net/images/parts.jpg

Picked them up earlier and heres a (**** quality) picture!

[PeterStoba]

Looks good, hope to see it in the show off section with a specs list :)

[mac124]

nice, now stop mesing about taking piccys and get it together.

[CallumRogan]

i cant until friday, i have exams all week until thursday, and im off all day friday, so i put it all together on friday, so you'l have to wait till then :P

[mac124]

BOOOO

I finish work friday till the new year \o/

[Micky007]

lol

[CallumRogan]

BOOOO HOOOOO

:D

[Aaron]

BOOOO

I finish work friday till the new year \o/
I finish work on weds till the 8th :D

[coiler]

That pic is amazing, looks like a showroom LOL