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SIMON11
11-11-07, 14:26
Just fitted a new power supply Thermaltake 1000w. It fired up and ran for a couple of minutes then shut down. I have checked all connections and leads but no joy. It just flashes the fans on when pressing the button then shuts off. I have re-fitted my old one and everything is o/k. Took the old one out and re-tried new one. No joy.
It must be faulty?

Micky007
11-11-07, 14:36
I remember this happening to me once but i can not remember what i did to get it working.

what motherbard are you using?

alexnifty
11-11-07, 14:44
I remember this happening to me once but i can not remember what i did to get it working.

what motherbard are you using?

Thanks

Uh oh....

Micky007
11-11-07, 14:45
ok, If the CPU fan has come loose or is not seated correctly the PC will detect the cooling problem and shut itself down to protect the processor.

Open the machine up and verify that the fan is seated correctly, plugged in and starts when the PC is powered up.

If it still does not work then make sure the power button is not sticking in, if it is then thats your problem.

Micky007
11-11-07, 14:51
Oh and also open the case and make sure you havent fried your motherboard which will also cause that to happen.

Lynx
11-11-07, 15:04
Well it wouldnt work with the old psu aswell if the mobo was fried, i do think ur talkin bull shiz atm micky. So its nothing wrong with the mobo. Are all the power connectors fitted? eg 4 pin etc.

alexnifty
11-11-07, 15:06
Got a different PC you can try the 1000w PSU in?

Micky007
11-11-07, 15:06
oh yea i forgot about that, i do think ur talking bull shiz atm Lynx.

mac124
11-11-07, 15:12
As daft as it might sound it could be the 1000w psu needs a higher minimum load than the pc supplies, i would be a bit suprised if this was the case though. I had a seasonic psu that refused to power up after a power cut and it had a "feature" that caused it to refuse to power up under certain circumstances, i had to flick the mains switch 5 times in quick succession to "reboot" the psu, check the manual to see if yours has something like that.

It could be a faulty psu the only real way to prove it is to try it in another pc as suggested.

SIMON11
11-11-07, 17:28
As daft as it might sound it could be the 1000w psu needs a higher minimum load than the pc supplies, i would be a bit suprised if this was the case though. I had a seasonic psu that refused to power up after a power cut and it had a "feature" that caused it to refuse to power up under certain circumstances, i had to flick the mains switch 5 times in quick succession to "reboot" the psu, check the manual to see if yours has something like that.

It could be a faulty psu the only real way to prove it is to try it in another pc as suggested.

I don't have another PC to try it. Your point about minimum current may be correct? Although it did power up once for a few minutes. It is an sli power supply with four rails. At the moment I have only one 8800GTX graphics card as I haven't the money for another yet.
My computer draws about 250w on idle and 360w with high graphics use. As this is a modular supply I wouldn't have thought it necessary to use all the rails. I was upgrading the supply for when I buy another card in the future.
I feel that it is not powering one of the duo core processors as you can get the same fault on any power supply if you disconnect one of the power leads to the motherboard.
I can't mess with it other than checking the connections as it is a new supply. I think there must be a fault because my other supply works o/k.

SIMON11
11-11-07, 17:39
I remember this happening to me once but i can not remember what i did to get it working.

what motherbard are you using?

An Asus P5N-E-SLI.

There isn't much in the fault finding in the manual. It justs states that if all the leads are in firm and the right way round and it doesn't work to send it back. There isn't even a voltage selector switch it is automatic.

SIMON11
11-11-07, 17:58
Just found this on Thermaltake 600w.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16817153042&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=10&SelectedRating=-1&Page=2

Doesn't sound promising. A lot dead on arrival.

Micky007
11-11-07, 21:33
if i was you id do an RMA request and either get a replacment or your money back.

SIMON11
11-11-07, 21:48
if i was you id do an RMA request and either get a replacment or your money back.

That's what I have done. This has put me off multi-rail power supplies. I am now looking at the PCPower 750 Quad. It has good reviews has only one rail at 60amp. So all the power is usable. It is smaller also, so it will fit in the case easier. Also not modular so less chance of power loss and arcing on connections.

coiler
12-11-07, 14:40
Buy a decent OCZ. never let me down >>>

http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Power+Supplies/500w+%2B/OCZ+900W+ModXStream+Modular+PSU+?productId=29109

Micky007
12-11-07, 15:04
yea OCZ are really good for PSUs

SIMON11
12-11-07, 20:10
Have you seen any review on the Modxtreme 900w sli unit? I would like to know if this has 4 pcie connectors for 2 8800gtx cards.

I find a lot of info on the Internet about major brands of power supply arriving dead or soon going faulty. I found this out with the Thermaltake. It sems pot luck to get one that works!

coiler
13-11-07, 10:23
Google is your friend

http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/power_management/ocz_modxstream_power_supply

"Complete with 2(780W)/4(900W) PCI-Express cables" so it has 4 on the 900w version!

SIMON11
13-11-07, 21:19
Thanks! It has four pci express connectors but only four 4 pin connectors. Meaning I would need a few splitters for fans etc. No big deal I suppose.

coiler
14-11-07, 09:44
3-5 of your fans should be able to be connected direct to the motherboard itself!

Or buy a 3.5" fan controller which needs one x4 pin molex connector to power 6 fans usually. and gives you speed control etc etc


for example >>>

http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Fans%2C+Heatsinks%2C+Coolers/Accessories/Zalman+ZM-MFC1+Plus+Black+Multi+Fan+Controller?productId=280 20

SIMON11
14-11-07, 20:34
3-5 of your fans should be able to be connected direct to the motherboard itself!

Or buy a 3.5" fan controller which needs one x4 pin molex connector to power 6 fans usually. and gives you speed control etc etc


for example >>>

http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Fans%2C+Heatsinks%2C+Coolers/Accessories/Zalman+ZM-MFC1+Plus+Black+Multi+Fan+Controller?productId=280 20

How can you connect the fans to the motherboard? I have an Asus P5N-E SLI motherboard. I can't see anything in the manual about connecting fans?


Just found in the spec that there is 2 chassis fan connectors on the motherboard. The blokes that built the computer wired them straight into the harness even though my case Has a fan speed selector and indicator in the front panel. ????
I should have built it myself but as I was getting new everything I had it built. They haven't even given me the SLI bridge connector.

coiler
15-11-07, 09:23
Harness?

Not sure what you mean. On my mobo I have 3 fan headers, running 3 case fans, simply plug them in!

I would contact your builder re SLI connector and Harness?!

SIMON11
15-11-07, 15:48
What I mean is they have cut the plugs off the fan leads and crimped the bare wires into the 4pin molex plugs in the harness. So I have to remove the fans as part of the harness. I have bought new fans to go with my new power supply when I get one that works!
I can eitherplug them into to the motherboard as you say or to my variable fan controller built into the case. I can't see why the builders did not do this? I have E-mailed them about the SLI bridge and they say take it as in the post.

SIMON11
16-11-07, 16:35
Just been notified that my power supply has been accepted as faulty and I will get a refund. Also it looks like I will get my return postage back. Good efficient service!
Now I need to decide on another power supply which might be more reliable. I am trying to find one less than 170mm in length as this will mean that I do not have to take out my top case fan as I did with the Thermaltake. I don't know how important it is to leave this in but the case was designed with this fan installed. I dont want to upset the cooling if not necessary.
Still searching!

Micky007
16-11-07, 17:11
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Power+Supplies/500w+%2B/Corsair+750W+TX+Series+PSU+?productId=29100

Sl4x0r
16-11-07, 17:15
What about a 27967 i've got one and it's surprisingly small and very potent...

SIMON11
16-11-07, 18:55
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Power+Supplies/500w+%2B/Corsair+750W+TX+Series+PSU+?productId=29100


Thanks
This appears to only have two pcie conectors. I need four to drive two 8800gtx cards comfortably. There are a couple of nvidia certified ones.

SIMON11
16-11-07, 18:59
What about a 27967 i've got one and it's surprisingly small and very potent...

Thanks this could do the job and it is Nvidea certified for twin 8800GTX. I will have a good look at this.


ps. Appears to be 180mm long which means removing my top fan. I think I may have to do this as I can't find a standard size supply that is powerful enough.

SIMON11
10-12-07, 19:38
Ended up with a Tagan 900w sli power supply. It is switchable from six seperate 20amp rails to one 70 amp 12v rail if required. I have had it a few weeks now and it is rock solid and superb. Standard ATX size as well.
Well pleased!!!

SIMON11
14-03-08, 18:10
Had it a while now. I repeat this is a great power supply.

Skinner
24-04-08, 10:32
Just bought one of these as well - wish I'd researched a bit better before hand lol because mine doesn't work either. Should have read these forums better :mrgreen:. Press the power button and get a brief flash of power, enough to spin the fans for half a second and thats it. An old psu I have works fine so know the motherboard etc are ok. Perhaps interestingly though it does actually work on my old moterboard - thats for an amd athlon 3200 which only requires a 20 pin connection from the psu and nothing else. So presumably its something to with the 4/8-pin connection my new Asus Striker needs. Arranging to have it returned so I can get something different.

Pretty poor from thermaltake really. I won't be buying from them again :cry:. Nothing against aria though I love this place and wouldn't shop for componants anywhere else 8).

SIMON11
23-10-08, 18:30
Just an update that my 900w Tagan power supply that I was so chuffed with, wouldn't run two 8800GTX cards. As soon as I tried to run a game it shut down. Yet another supply works. It is back on RMA at the moment.

mac124
24-10-08, 07:27
DOH tagan are usually rock solid, ah well goes to show even reliable manufacturers make the odd lemon.