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KickButt
28-09-10, 22:31
But which ones?

i see so many of these threads lol but undecided,

either:
EVGA GeForce GTX 460 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card

http://www.aria.co.uk/dynres/cHJvZHVjdF9pbWFnZS53aWR0aD0yNTA=/bWFpbmltYWdlcy9ldmdhZ3R4NDYwXzI1MC5qcGc=.jpg

or
Asus GTX 460 ENGTX460 1GB DIRECTCU/2DI/1GD5 Voltage Tweak Edition

http://www.aria.co.uk/dynres/cHJvZHVjdF9pbWFnZS53aWR0aD0yNTA=/bWFpbmltYWdlcy9hc3VzNDYwLmpwZw==.jpg


not bothered about free games etc, what you think?

will be SLIing these two cards, and wondering what performance i could get with the 2 x 1gb models over the 2 x 768mb models and which you think is the best to use!



ta!
Jamie

callumburns
28-09-10, 23:06
more vram will give you better FPS, i think thats the way it works and both are really good cards and great makes, but for RMA wise Asus would be the way to go in my opinion. it also has the better cooling too so i would go for two Asus cards if it were me :)

edit: also have a look at TinyTomLogan's review on the EVGA SLI setup :) http://forums.aria.co.uk/showthread.php?t=32335

Pancake
28-09-10, 23:14
I would get the EVGA because i hate how the Asus looks. Cant buy something expensive that i hate.

Zaim
28-09-10, 23:17
I'd take the EVGA one :thumb:

AmdOverclocker
28-09-10, 23:28
the EVGA ones should stay cooler in SLI, because they blow the air out the case, so with the ASUS ones you will have airflow problems with one of the cards, unless you got PCI-E lanes which are futher than 3 slots apart, if so, either are good, the asus one has unlocked voltage, not sure if the EVGA ones do, as for RMA, not sure. asus has 3 year warrantys i think EVGA does aswell, im really tired now so hopefully someone can tell you all the information ive missed out :) or il edit this psot tomorrow.

Mr. Strawberry
28-09-10, 23:41
all the GTX 460s have voltage control
it is only something to do with voltage chips on the HD5000 series cards where you run itto problems like that

Terbinator
28-09-10, 23:42
Get the MSI Cyclone.

mac124
29-09-10, 07:15
more vram will give you better FPS, i think thats the way it works

Only at silly high res or VERY demanding games.

Single cards only give a few fps difference and that is probably down to the memory bus not the amount of memory.

El Wayneo
29-09-10, 07:17
The fps gain is insignificant really on the 1Gb over the 768Mb.

Get 2 x 768Mb and save some cash.

By the time they even start to struggle playing games you'll have swapped them anyway.

Martin
29-09-10, 07:48
The 1GB GTX460 offers more than just extra VRAM over the 768mb one.
The 768MB is around 5830 level (More dependant on the game than anything), the 1GB one demolishes it.

El Wayneo
29-09-10, 07:54
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-460-review/

If you call 2fps in COD and 4 fps IN BFBC2 demolishing then yes the 1GB is worth the premium.

Biggest difference between a stock 768mb and 1Gb is 7 fps, @ 1920 x 1080, when the 768Mb is getting 45 anyway.

Martin
29-09-10, 08:03
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-460-review/

If you call 2fps in COD and 4 fps IN BFBC2 demolishing then yes the 1GB is worth the premium.

Biggest difference between a stock 768mb and 1Gb is 7 fps, @ 1920 x 1080, when the 768Mb is getting 45 anyway.
Lol.
There's a review somewhere which shows the difference better,
IIRC the 768 has less ROP's, AA will affect it more than the 1GB.
But, a 7 FPS difference at 45 FPS is almost 20%.

El Wayneo
29-09-10, 08:16
Yeah average fps difference is 4.

Even 45 vs 52fps maybe close to 20% but doesn't matter anyway as 45fps is fine.

If you look, most of those games have 8 x AA and 16 x AF on, high settings.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-460-sli-review/5

Look at those fps there for sli, is another 15 or 20 fps going to matter when you get 100 anyway?

No, waste of cash, you could buy an SSD with the difference in price.

Martin
29-09-10, 08:31
Yeah average fps difference is 4.

Even 45 vs 52fps maybe close to 20% but doesn't matter anyway as 45fps is fine.

If you look, most of those games have 8 x AA and 16 x AF on, high settings.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-460-sli-review/5

Look at those fps there for sli, is another 15 or 20 fps going to matter when you get 100 anyway?

No, waste of cash, you could buy an SSD with the difference in price.

I suppose.
It's dependant on the person in question lol.

KickButt
29-09-10, 10:10
I suppose.
It's dependant on the person in question lol.

as a note i already have a ssd, and i dont want to save the cash i'd rather spend £20 quid more and get something better, plus i will be overclocking and 10fps higher for £20 quid is worth it to me.



the EVGA ones should stay cooler in SLI, because they blow the air out the case, so with the ASUS ones you will have airflow problems with one of the cards, unless you got PCI-E lanes which are futher than 3 slots apart, if so, either are good, the asus one has unlocked voltage, not sure if the EVGA ones do, as for RMA, not sure. asus has 3 year warrantys i think EVGA does aswell, im really tired now so hopefully someone can tell you all the information ive missed out :) or il edit this psot tomorrow.

you mean the EVGA blow the air out of the PCI ? instead of upwards?
im confused.

mac124
29-09-10, 10:15
The way i see it is the 1gb card really comes into its own at REALLY high res / multi screen set ups, neither of which i am likely to use any time soon, which is why i personally went for a couple of 768mb versions.

El Wayneo
29-09-10, 10:18
Yeah if you shop around as well you can get the ASUS Top for £123, so two of them for less than £250 or an EVGA 1Gb for £170 Hmmmmmmm.

Zaim
29-09-10, 11:32
Yeah if you shop around as well you can get the ASUS Top for £123, so two of them for less than £250 or an EVGA 1Gb for £170 Hmmmmmmm.

Two 768mb :thumb:

Mr. Strawberry
29-09-10, 14:32
Yeah if you shop around as well you can get the ASUS Top for £123, so two of them for less than £250 or an EVGA 1Gb for £170 Hmmmmmmm.
thats the ones i am going for one got shipped today and another when i have sold my motherboard :D

Terbinator
29-09-10, 14:36
I think this was a discussion the other day in regards too splashing near £200. Personally, i would just lay out £210 and get a GTX 470/5850.

A Ginger Sheep
29-09-10, 14:51
for a single card setup playing at 1920 x 1080 which would be best to go for? as my board is crossfire only :(, dont think i will be thinking upgrading until christmas though so i can see how my card performs with the newer games.

Terbinator
29-09-10, 14:58
well i think unless your bothered about the heat/power requirements the GTX 470 is the card to have ?

A Ginger Sheep
29-09-10, 15:08
well i think unless your bothered about the heat/power requirements the GTX 470 is the card to have ?

i wouldnt be bothered about heat and power that much but its the financial requirements so i would rather buy a gtx460 if it would be suitable for my needs, just wondering how the 768mb version compares to the 1gb version at 1920 x 1080.

Terbinator
29-09-10, 15:12
i wouldnt be bothered about heat and power that much but its the financial requirements so i would rather buy a gtx460 if it would be suitable for my needs, just wondering how the 768mb version compares to the 1gb version at 1920 x 1080.

About 5FPS IIRC.

ThunderFlash
14-10-10, 12:52
Two 768mb :thumb:


Correct answer.

SLI reviews show the 460 is mega and you won't need the 1gb in SLI

Nomad2k3
15-10-10, 14:16
I would get the EVGA because i hate how the Asus looks. Cant buy something expensive that i hate.

Aww i Have the Asus I think it looks great, like a Dung beetle with go faster stripes on it :P

Tbh though I would go for the EVGA for Sli just because they pump the heat out of the case, where as the Asus will spread it about the inside of the case.

Saying that I have the Asus and am planning on a second :o :thumb:

Mr. Strawberry
15-10-10, 14:24
i have 2 of the 768mb versions in sli and even with i 120mm fan blowing air directly on the cards the top card still gets 15C warmer than the bottom and very loud

Nomad2k3
15-10-10, 14:38
I guess that sounds about right, im sure the top card works a little harder?
Do you have much space between the cards?

I only have a little MSI P55-GD65 so will only be able to run 2 in 8x/8x Sli but will be the 1Gb ones so will prolly get even hotter?

I better get more fans I guess.

Mr. Strawberry
15-10-10, 14:41
the cards are right next to each other
the cooler for the top card touches the screws for the bottom card

Terbinator
15-10-10, 18:45
I guess that sounds about right, im sure the top card works a little harder?
Do you have much space between the cards?

I only have a little MSI P55-GD65 so will only be able to run 2 in 8x/8x Sli but will be the 1Gb ones so will prolly get even hotter?

I better get more fans I guess.

I had two GPU's on my GD-65 the other day and there was around 2cm gap between the MSI cyclone and the back plate of the GTX 260 underneath - enough room for your finger to squeeze down and undo the PCI-e clip holding the card in anyway.

Mr. Strawberry
15-10-10, 18:48
i stand corrected
forgot there is a 2 lot gap between the x16 slots

SilveR_172
15-10-10, 19:54
Nither go for the MSI Cyclone Series coolers =) lol

Nomad2k3
15-10-10, 20:18
Looking at my board (MSI P55-GD65) it seems theres a 3 slot gap between the 2 PCI-E slots, whether that would help with cooling I dunno,

But yeah the Cyclone coolers would help with getting air to the cards, but they still pump heat into the case :D

Mr. Strawberry
15-10-10, 20:30
http://eu.msi.com/uploads/5_pictures/five_pictures1_20100318104333.jpg
looks like 2 to me
the more space between the cards the better the cooling is going to be
i personly would only choose cards that exhust out the back
after having these asus ones