View Full Version : Anyone drive a Freelander 2?
Just stumbled across this part of the forum, and seeing as I'm looking at new cars, I wondered if anyone has a Freelander 2? Good? Bad?
Whilst I'm here, this is my current car. I love it but I need something bigger. VW Golf GT Sport 2.0 TDI 170 bhp :cool:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v642/antsmith/golf3-1.jpg
How about a Passat? Same basic layout, just a bit bigger.
Good suggestion jbromley, but I've had 2 Passat's in my time. I fancy something with a higher driving position and Land Rover are the best, aren't they - or so I've heard :confused:
Well, ybh I have to take issue with the Freelander - pretty poor cars from what I can tell from reading reviews etc. The Mk1s were truly poorly built, possibly they got it right with the Mk2.
Alternatively, how about a Tiguan? Keep it in the family ;)
I'd read that the current version is a lot better - I agree with you, the original ones got a hard time review wise.
A Tiguan you say? I hadn't thought of that. I shall go and build one on the VW website and see what it comes to. Thanks for the idea!
old freelanders were pants with the K series engine but the freelander 2 is a good car and much easier to park than the bigger 4x4's
I'd read that the current version is a lot better - I agree with you, the original ones got a hard time review wise.
A Tiguan you say? I hadn't thought of that. I shall go and build one on the VW website and see what it comes to. Thanks for the idea!
Tiguan vote here, Or even a Touareg:thumb:
I dove an MK1 freelander the other day and kept hitting my head on the roof!:confused:
K series engine
Did someone say head gasket?:lol:
hoave you seen the new freelander wow what a well designed car!
http://www.carbodydesign.com/archive/2007/12/15-land-rover-lrx-concept/_Land-Rover-LRX-Concept-1-lg.jpg
I really disliked the Freelander when I had one for a couple of weeks last year in Africa... Not tried a MK2 though..
are you concerned about MPG?
Toonshorty
16-09-10, 16:31
hoave you seen the new freelander wow what a well designed car!
[SNIP]
All aboard the posh **** mobile...
+1 for the Tiguan - We had two but had to sell one for finance reasons.
Excellent car, well built and supposedly lovely to drive. I'm 15 so I couldn't tell you.
all Land Rovers are the same, they give you as much enjoyment in driving them as you put in loving them :lol:
You need to look after them and not be scared with a spanner. The Freelander2 would be my choice of car with a lottery win :lol: I take them where they are at the best, off road though so my usage pattern is very different.
I'm 6foot4 and I'm fine in my Freelander1, and I have the 1.8K series engine and it's a great unit, once you have the modded kit done, it left the factory with a poor setup, but the new HG, oil rail and thermo sorted it. So much that MG owners etc all 'upgrade' by using LandRover parts.
Back to Freelander2, if buying new, watch for the option packs, there are some that really should be there by default. The stop start option is clever and works in the drive I had really well. Take a test drive in one for sure.
DT.
Mr. Grapes
16-09-10, 16:55
old freelanders were pants with the K series engine
except the diesels... which are nothing to write home about performance wise, are the same 2.0 113 BHP units that are in my car, and they are pretty bomb proof
(just done over 120K over 6 1/2 years and not had a single problem with it, and it's not showing any signs of slowing down either. if anything it's improved as the gearbox seems to have finally worn in! :eek: )
@DT, what's this thermo kit you speak of? my wife's MGF could probably do with that as we're constantly petrified of HGF
Interesting comments people, thank you.
So... it's between the Freelander 2 and the Tiguan now. I think I need to test drive both of them - that should help. I like the build of VW's and I'm familiar with them, and Land Rovers are completely new to me.
Pricing them up on manufacturers websites is one thing, but getting behind the wheel and actually talking to someone who can (hopefully) discount the price is the next step :)
EDIT: @ coiler: MPG? Well, yes and no. It's a company vehicle so I'll be taxed to death on it anyway. I do little personal mileage to account for as it is and what I do can be *cough* adjusted accordingly*
*Apparently. So I've been told. I'd never do a thing like that ;)
Toonshorty
16-09-10, 17:14
Interesting comments people, thank you.
So... it's between the Freelander 2 and the Tiguan now. I think I need to test drive both of them - that should help. I like the build of VW's and I'm familiar with them, and Land Rovers are completely new to me.
Pricing them up on manufacturers websites is one thing, but getting behind the wheel and actually talking to someone who can (hopefully) discount the price is the next step :)
EDIT: @ coiler: MPG? Well, yes and no. It's a company vehicle so I'll be taxed to death on it anyway. I do little personal mileage to account for as it is and what I do can be *cough* adjusted accordingly*
*Apparently. So I've been told. I'd never do a thing like that ;)
Well the land rover does about 0.1 mpg and the Tiguan does 60 mpg.
Well, I'm not sure about the LR but the Tiggy does 55-60 mpg - I'd know because I owned one :P
except the diesels... which are nothing to write home about performance wise, are the same 2.0 113 BHP units that are in my car, and they are pretty bomb proof
(just done over 120K over 6 1/2 years and not had a single problem with it, and it's not showing any signs of slowing down either. if anything it's improved as the gearbox seems to have finally worn in! :eek: )
@DT, what's this thermo kit you speak of? my wife's MGF could probably do with that as we're constantly petrified of HGF
it moves the sensor and gate essentially, difficuly in a MGF due to the available space, http://www.mgfcar.de/thermostat/Water_System_Mods.htm
Well the land rover does about 0.1 mpg and the Tiguan does 60 mpg.
Well, I'm not sure about the LR but the Tiggy does 55-60 mpg - I'd know because I owned one :P
Yet earlier you were 15 and now you have personally owned a car that does 55-60 mpg, and those figures, imo, are at the top end of real life driving. That must have been nowhere near Reading with the average speed of less than 10mph :lol:
DT.
Yet earlier you were 15 and now you have personally owned a car that does 55-60 mpg, and those figures, imo, are at the top end of real life driving. That must have been nowhere near Reading with the average speed of less than 10mph :lol:
DT.
TBH - the figures for the Tiguan don't really surprise me, and are not beyond the realms of fact.
I currently have an '02 Passat Estate (certainly heavier than a Tiguan), with the older PD130 Diesel engine, which surely is less efficient, and it's Automatic which loses about 5-10% mpg'ability. I currently get 45 - 50 (45 around town, 55 on a long run) and the car's done 217k miles, I am thinking of replacing with a Tiggy for improved fuel economy, but a bit more "upright" space (although the "Head" (and Mrs') say a Touran would be more sensible) ;)
The last Land Rover I had did between 8 and 12 mpg... admittedly it was a V8 3.5L Carb Range Rover, with serious issues, but hey :)
you managed 8mpg :weeee
My V8 was more like gallons per mile ;)
you managed 8mpg :weeee
My V8 was more like gallons per mile ;)
The Series III 88" was a little better, I was actually quite proud of that - managed to get that to do 22 mpg, after fitting free-wheeling hubs.
NB It probably used 1 litre of Oil per mile though...
A Ginger Sheep
16-09-10, 19:02
well built
and you are qualified how??
and you are qualified how??
he's the one that sits in the back, picking at the plastic asking "are we nearly there yet" :chuckle:
DT.
Toonshorty
16-09-10, 19:26
it moves the sensor and gate essentially, difficuly in a MGF due to the available space, http://www.mgfcar.de/thermostat/Water_System_Mods.htm
Yet earlier you were 15 and now you have personally owned a car that does 55-60 mpg, and those figures, imo, are at the top end of real life driving. That must have been nowhere near Reading with the average speed of less than 10mph :lol:
DT.
Well I don't own it but I ride in it every day and I see the MPG figure every day too :P
It does 55-60 mpg at 70mph on a motorway.
Well I don't own it but I ride in it every day and I see the MPG figure every day too :P
It does 55-60 mpg at 70mph on a motorway.
what's the combined cycle though, that's the more important figure as there are sweet few of us that do 70mph on the motorway all day ... maybe if you worked in a service station? Real day to day driving over a tank of fuel, my little town car will make 74.8mpg according to the onboard thing, not a hope it'll make that over a full tank of fuel though.
DT.
Mr. Grapes
17-09-10, 12:22
oh yeah, i just remembered, somewhere on my engine (the alternator IIRC) it's badged LR ;)
Just because it looks good doesn't make it well designed.
Honestly the original Freelander was a death trap so that has tainted the model for me.
BurningFeetMan
21-09-10, 08:13
Have you considered a Honda cr-v or a Toyota rav4? Both good quality cars.
Freelanders (like any Land/Range Rover) have a reputation of falling to bits. If you are buying a new one and planning to keep about 3 years then the residuals aren't the worst around and the quality isn't really your problem. I would avoid owning one out of warranty completely though. Likes of the CR-V, X-Trail and RAV4 offer a far better built equivalent. Alternatively consider things like the Quasquai if you just want a bit of height.
Well, thank you for all the suggestions - I've found a stipulation in my employers car policy that states the CO2 emmisions must be no more than 160g/kg. The Freelander model I wanted came in at 165g/kg, with the eD4 model which isn't available until next year, at 'possibly' 158g/kg. The Tiguan model I liked coughs out too much at 164g/kg.
Thanks again good people, looks like I'll keep looking :)
Mr. Grapes
24-09-10, 13:30
you might find that you could be granted a little leeway (unless the tax differential is massive above and below that band), one place where i worked specified a minimum of 4 doors and 5 seats, yet there were plenty of people running 2 door, 2 seat convertible or coupe's
Good point, Mr. Grapes - That's worth investigating - cheers :)
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