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Snakedoc
16-09-10, 10:50
The nice Indian man at 3 is sending me a new phone on the 21st. It's an HTC Wildfire. I had a look around and it seems OK. Are they any good?

Spaceboy
16-09-10, 10:51
Only heard good things about it :) Not a top of the line model, but perfectly capable phone.

marsey99
16-09-10, 10:52
they aint bad, its a small one but you will get the right os and great after sales support from htc :thumb:

Snakedoc
16-09-10, 10:54
Seems like they really wanted me to stay, got a much, much cheaper contract (half price). It's my third phone with them. Perhaps I got a loyalty discount.

scrivz69
16-09-10, 10:58
Mine is up with 3 soon I hope I get a good deal aswell, let me know how it goes mate and I might have to try one.

coiler
16-09-10, 11:07
Why not get the GT-I 9000? bigger, better screen, fastest smartphone in the world!

Aaron
16-09-10, 12:05
Why not get the GT-I 9000?
That sounds like a chavved up Saab.. ;)

I'll be interested what you think of the Wildfire, SD - I'm also looking at it for my upgrade too :)

Snakedoc
16-09-10, 12:09
Hmm they dont seem to have, maybe they do. I am happy tbh with this one I think lol.

Ill let you know how it goes!

Mr. Grapes
16-09-10, 12:49
the ones i played with in best buy were a little slow on the swiping actions (a bit laggy, not too smooth) but that will probably improve with fro-yo (android 2.2) so as long as you're fine with 320x240 on an android phone (i find it a little limiting on my e71...) then it's getting great reviews and i'm sure you won't be disapointed.

24 months tho right?
They wanted to move me on to a 24 month as they've totally dropped 18 months now :( I told them where they could stick a 24 month contract and they put me on a 1 month rolling, £10 loads of mins/texts/data.
just have to get droid now...

niceguyrichy
16-09-10, 13:00
shoulda begged a little..

i phoned to see what they had, they tried to persuade me to take a wildfire, i said no.
then he tried to get me to take a wildfire with a ridiculously improved contract, but no extra money. i said no.
then i asked if i could get the awesome contract deal with a free iPhone... (i was half kidding tbh), he tapped at his keyboard for a minute, sighed deeply (really, he did) and said yes!
i've been a loyal customer for quite a few years, but really i'm not sure how much of a difference that makes these days. i reckon a lot of it is pure & simple luck-of-the-draw tbh
still, i dont care, i got iPhone and great contract :D

Aaron
16-09-10, 13:07
shoulda begged a little..

i phoned to see what they had, they tried to persuade me to take a wildfire, i said no.
then he tried to get me to take a wildfire with a ridiculously improved contract, but no extra money. i said no.
then i asked if i could get the awesome contract deal with a free iPhone... (i was half kidding tbh), he tapped at his keyboard for a minute, sighed deeply (really, he did) and said yes!
i've been a loyal customer for quite a few years, but really i'm not sure how much of a difference that makes these days. i reckon a lot of it is pure & simple luck-of-the-draw tbh
still, i dont care, i got iPhone and great contract :D
Details please... :D

Snakedoc
22-09-10, 00:20
Well I am pretty underwhelmed by it so far. It's really annoying and fiddly to use. IIRC I am always like this with a new phone lol. They annoy me until I get the hang and can use without thinking about it. Just setting my daughter's image for her contact which was imported from my sim did not work. I had to manually create the contact again. Finding stuff is pretty counter intuative as well. I have three annoying icons which tell me I have downloaded three app from the Android store but can I work out how to remove them? Nope.

Would not sync at first with PC and had to set debug mode, another annoyance. Music player is pretty crap compared to Sony's as is sound quality. I may have a better review in a few days once I have had time and can be bothered to play with it.

I'll say one thing though. DPD performed delivery and even gave me a time for delivery within an hour! Awesome sevice I would defo recommend them as Aria new Currier.

Spaceboy
22-09-10, 09:22
I have three annoying icons which tell me I have downloaded three app from the Android store but can I work out how to remove them? Nope.

I downloaded an app called "uninstaller" which is really easy to use and does what it says on the tin ;) Otherwise I think you have to go to the market, find the app, and uninstall from there which is a real pain in the bum :rolleyes:

Hope you get the hang of it soon :)

Mr. Grapes
22-09-10, 09:34
Music player is pretty crap

I haven't heard of anyone keeping the default player. have a look on lifehacker for their android pack

Spaceboy
22-09-10, 09:41
Still using the defaul player on the desire - does everything I need it to except a graphic equaliser. I'll update it at some point when there's a clear "winner" ;)

Mr. Grapes
22-09-10, 17:23
well check this out for timely...
http://lifehacker.com/5644760/battle-of-the-android-music-players-the-best-alternative-players-compared

Naphta
22-09-10, 21:21
I'm looking for a new phone, want one free with the contract though. HTC seems top so, gogo specmeupbros.

Snakedoc
23-09-10, 02:43
Well not found a free music player yet which has a Graphic equaliser. Tried a few but they only seem to give the lyrics and then incorrectly! What is important is sound quality not rubbish like album art or lyrics.

Other than that, starting to get the hang of it now. At first it was painful to use but now I am getting used to the touchpad.

Aaron
23-09-10, 08:47
Have you had a touch screen phone before?

SENTY
23-09-10, 08:50
I'm looking for a new phone, want one free with the contract though. HTC seems top so, gogo specmeupbros.

nexus one on vodafone/.. http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/shop/mobile-phone/google-nexus-one/

the only pure google android handset, made from a solid piece of aluminium and glass not plastic like the samsung phones!

Snakedoc
23-09-10, 08:52
Have you had a touch screen phone before?

No, it's my first. Takes some getting used to.

Aaron
23-09-10, 08:54
Yeah - I just wondered if it was that, or if it was genuinely just a difficult phone to use..

El Wayneo
23-09-10, 08:55
As is would you recommend it?, as my girlfriend wants to upgrade our LG Cookies to these in 2 weeks as they are free on our call plan.

Aaron
23-09-10, 08:58
As is would you recommend it?, as my girlfriend wants to upgrade our LG Cookies to these in 2 weeks as they are free on our call plan.
Thats what we were looking at doing too, hence all the questions :lol:

SENTY
23-09-10, 08:58
wayneo get an android or an IPhone,.. and dont get a 24 month contract or an 18 month if you can

El Wayneo
23-09-10, 09:01
Well we only have £15 a month call plans so no Iphone or Galaxy S.

And the Wildfire is free.

Plus its only ever a 12 month contract.

Snakedoc
23-09-10, 09:07
Well yes I think I would. Saving me money and I am enjoying playing.

Aaron
23-09-10, 09:08
Yeah, exactly the same here... My girlfriend is on a £13/month contract.. I'm on a £19/month contract. I don't want to pay any more than that, which means ~£150 for the phone costs for a desire or galaxy. Which I'm also not going to do.

But I would quite like an android phone..

SENTY
23-09-10, 09:23
the wildfire is an excellent phone..

El Wayneo
23-09-10, 09:25
Yeah i thought it was just a cut down Desire.

Snakedoc
23-09-10, 09:28
I don't think it's cut down as such. Lower res screen is all AFAIK.

El Wayneo
23-09-10, 09:31
I meant a bit smaller in size, hence the smaller screen.

Aaron
23-09-10, 09:36
Slower & Older CPU and less ram as far as I know too..

SENTY
23-09-10, 09:38
I don't think it's cut down as such. Lower res screen is all AFAIK.

and the cpu is at 528 instead of 1ghz which is worrying when you think how much the sense UI slows the desire down...

but the camera is 5mp and its very small and light

http://www.htc.com/uk/product/wildfire/specification.html

the original 2.0 and above phones were very lavishly built my nexus is hand milled from a block of aluminium into a one piece chassis of glass and aluminium and has external mics that reduce background noise but in effect do nothing all of this isnt needed in a phone so the wildfire is all the lavishness taken out.

although the small screen would bother me!

Sniperdude
23-09-10, 09:38
must be a big learning curve for the old fella tho

going from a phone with a dial to a touch screen

Snakedoc
23-09-10, 09:39
must be a big learning curve for the old fella tho

going from a phone with a dial to a touch screen

Beaker and string is all I could manage before lol.

SENTY
23-09-10, 09:40
cold turkey is the only way

Sniperdude
23-09-10, 09:42
contract string or just pay as you sew aka cotton LOL

El Wayneo
23-09-10, 10:01
Pay as you sew.

Hahahahahahahahah

Snakedoc
30-09-10, 15:16
Bull by the horns day today I feel. Not overly happy with the Wildfire. Small screen limits which application can run on it. I am also having problems using it with fat fingers. Texting is a slow painful nightmare.

I phoned 3 and they are swapping it tomorrow for a Samsung Galaxy S i9000. These any good?

Mr. Grapes
30-09-10, 15:17
1/4 of the forum is on one (it seems). they are of the 2 best droids out there right now, the other being the desire.
(looks like just under half of all android users are on the Galaxy S.

my personal opinion is that they are too big (just) and feel cheap - which they are not
apart from that, they are top drawer

Snakedoc
30-09-10, 15:19
Hmm good then lol. I made the right choice for once today.

coiler
30-09-10, 15:25
Why not get the GT-I 9000? bigger, better screen, fastest smartphone in the world!


i did tell you :lol:

Nothing compares.

the closest to it is iphone 4, which feels heavy and cumbersome, even though smaller dimensions it feels like a brick in pocket. - suffers poor reception and the screen just feels small once youve used the galaxy for a day.

Just run Quadrant standard after the lag fix and the galaxy is way ahead of its competition. Add to that gingerbread compatible and its a no brainer!

The superamo LED is a thing of raw beauty!

Snakedoc
30-09-10, 15:27
Indeed lol I should have cancelled then really. I thought it would be OK and I could not be bothered lol. It's your fault anyway. You and that bloody Angry Birds game lol.

coiler
30-09-10, 15:28
Indeed lol I should have cancelled then really. I thought it would be OK and I could not be bothered lol. It's your fault anyway. You and that bloody Angry Birds game lol.


haha hows that? does it not work good on the HTC?

Snakedoc
30-09-10, 15:33
Does not work at all! It says no found and I discovered it was due to the screen size being too small. About half the apps I wanted would not work due to this.

tystar
30-09-10, 15:34
I'm gonna have to start asking for commission from Samsung at this rate ;) lol
Anyway for those that missed my previous post somewhere about a good site for all things Galaxy sign up here as this is where I get all my info from.

http://samsunggalaxysforums.com/forum.php

Glad to see you joining the masses SD ;)

Edit:



Does not work at all! It says no found and I discovered it was due to the screen size being too small. About half the apps I wanted would not work due to this.

At least you wont have that issue on the Galaxy :D

coiler
30-09-10, 15:37
i actually look at the galaxy on a regular basis and think what a damn fine piece of engineering! it truly impresses me everyday.

tystar
30-09-10, 15:39
LOL

So you enjoying it then ;)

Snakedoc
30-09-10, 15:39
So what does Tappa Talk actually do and how would it benefit me may I ask?

tystar
30-09-10, 15:40
See my previous thread here.... http://forums.aria.co.uk/showthread.php?t=19187

SENTY
30-09-10, 15:42
I do not have permission to view that thread!¬

tystar
30-09-10, 15:43
I do not have permission to view that thread!¬

Sorry I'd linked to my thread in the mods room :(

here you go.

http://forums.aria.co.uk/showthread.php?t=19197

SENTY
30-09-10, 15:43
I dont think tapatalk does anything! in the stock android browser i just hove no trouble with forums at all. all tapatalk does is pester your forums users to buy it, then seemingly nothing else as all its tech is already built into chrome mobile... maybe you guys use opera or something..

tystar
30-09-10, 15:46
I only use the standard browser as I dont like opera.
Tapatalk makes using the forum so much easier to use and to reply too on the move, much more easier than the browser.

try the free version to browse and see what you think honestly it's the most used app I have other than FB ;) lol

SENTY
30-09-10, 15:51
been there done it bought it and uninstalled it what a con of a program!
ther is no problem using a forum with my phone i dont need an app for that..

coiler
30-09-10, 15:53
hows it a con though? if it makes it easier to browse and reply LOL

Spaceboy
30-09-10, 15:54
I had a look but haven't played with tapa... because I have no problem at all using the default (or 3rd party) browser to view forums :)

Snakedoc
30-09-10, 15:55
I was finding it hell with the Wildfire, better than the C905 with Opera though. Very very slow to type stuff.

tystar
30-09-10, 15:59
Instead of trying to zoom in to read the forums properly or trying to press the right bit of screen to quote etc which if i must admit can be a faff and a half when on the move I just open up tapa and it's simple clicks to do what i want and it's easier to read a thread without going into it if i dont want too because it has a preview already there.

Seriously Senty have we got outta bed the wrong side today as a couple of your posts seem to be argumentative :D

Mr. Grapes
30-09-10, 15:59
i think the problem with the small android phones (like the wildfire and x-10 mini) is the screen is too small to use as a keyboard. this is where the x-10 mini pro comes in as it has a physical keyboard, about the same size as my e71, and you can type pretty quickly on those...

callumburns
30-09-10, 16:00
http://www.phones4u.co.uk/shop/shop_contract_details.asp?ItemKey=426540&intcid=ComingSoon_Position%201

looks amazing and comes out on the 9th of october apparently :thumb: think thats the phone i will be getting!

tystar
30-09-10, 16:05
http://www.phones4u.co.uk/shop/shop_contract_details.asp?ItemKey=426540&intcid=ComingSoon_Position%201

looks amazing and comes out on the 9th of october apparently :thumb: think thats the phone i will be getting!

If due a upgrade soon, that will be the phone to get. :thumb:

SENTY
30-09-10, 16:05
yeah its a great phone its called the EVO in america and its an awesome phone but its not new its only new to the UK. HTC brilliant build quality and updated specs from the snapdragon CPU based generations (nexus, desire etc..) IM already looking at when my contract runs out and what i want next its either another HTC or ill import a motorola depending on whats new out at the time.

We really need to sort our mobile companies out as we are at least a year behind on android handsets, no motorolas, old HTC's and only one samsumg galaxy s when the USA has all those and much more... and they have a much older tech network to run them on..


If due a upgrade soon, that will be the phone to get. :thumb:

EH didnt you get your galaxy last month?

tystar
30-09-10, 16:07
about 2months now.

And happy as anything with it too. :D

Mr. Grapes
30-09-10, 16:09
is there any difference in specs between the desire HD and the current desire? apart from the screen size?

AFAICT the resolution is the same WVGA 480x800, just physically bigger, and the CPU is the same 1GHz. or am i missing something?

Snakedoc
30-09-10, 16:10
Is it a better camera too?

callumburns
30-09-10, 16:11
Camera
720p Video recording
LED Flash
Automatic location tagging (Geotagging) of images and videos
Face Detection
Connectivity
HSDPA capabilities
Wi-Fi (802.11b/g)
Push Email
Messaging
Multimedia Messaging (MMS)
Instant Messaging
Memory
4GB Internal Memory
Entertainment
Youtube Viewer
Google Search, Maps, Gmail
MP3/AAC+/WAV/WMA9 player
MP4/H.263/H.264/WMV9 player
Screen
480 x 800 pixel resolution
4.3 inch AMOLED Touchscreen
Multi-touch input method
Accelerometer sensor for auto-rotate
Organiser
Sense User Interface
Other
Android OS 2.2
Proximity sensor
Digital Compass
Optical Trackpad

PeterStoba
30-09-10, 16:13
Bull by the horns day today I feel. Not overly happy with the Wildfire. Small screen limits which application can run on it. I am also having problems using it with fat fingers. Texting is a slow painful nightmare.

I phoned 3 and they are swapping it tomorrow for a Samsung Galaxy S i9000. These any good?
Arguably the best android phone out there, miles ahead of the wildfire! :D

Free upgrade?

Spaceboy
30-09-10, 16:13
8MP camera is def better, HD video should be better (although I heard that 2.2 brings HD vid to the current desire - still waiting on Orange for my update :mad: )

Slightly bigger screen, otherwise much the same.

SENTY
30-09-10, 16:14
is there any difference in specs between the desire HD and the current desire? apart from the screen size?

AFAICT the resolution is the same WVGA 480x800, just physically bigger, and the CPU is the same 1GHz. or am i missing something?

CPU is different, snapdragon in the desire and scorpion in the HD which has a graphics core that performs much better, the DPI on the screen is a huge increase but the power it draws is less, camera much better more internal storage.. its hard to remember off the top of my head but it is a lot more phone ..

tystar
30-09-10, 16:17
From the looks then pretty much on a par then with the galaxy but larger screen led flash and the better build materials then.

callumburns
30-09-10, 16:19
dont know about the wildfire and that but the desire HD also has dolby mobile too.

heres a video on it anyway
RUZ-pfJUbYI

coiler
30-09-10, 16:22
8mp is uneeded i feel and will just use up more memory.

5mp is more than ample for majority.

El Wayneo
30-09-10, 16:22
14mp would be awesome.

SENTY
30-09-10, 16:28
8mp is uneeded i feel and will just use up more memory.

5mp is more than ample for majority.

I totally agree! there are some new 14mp LG phones but time has proved that cameras are not good or bad by the amount of pixels in the picture, did anyone see the gadget show when they took picture with all phones and then got pro judges from photography companies to judge them and the winner was a 3.2 mp sony w750i or something and today its generally accepted that the Iphone 4 is the best camera phone despite it being 5mp which is brilliant for apple to join the rest of us at 5mp but i cant see the need for more than that.. MP if after all the size of the picture not the quality

Spaceboy
30-09-10, 16:29
Camera phones are for taking photos on the move, or impromptu photos.
For "proper" photos, or photos where you're really worried about quality, use a "camera" ;)

imo ;)

don't get me wrong, I love having a camera on my phone, because it means I've always got it with me :thumb:

Mr. Grapes
30-09-10, 17:18
what happens with cam phone pics... they all get resized down to 'web' size anyway.

high MP on tiny sensors just makes more noise, and use more storage space per pic. phone cams, aren't for photography, but for snaps. anyone who 'needs' more than 5MP on a camera phone is just doing it for e-peen.

what are you going to do with your 14MP cam phone image? print it out at A0 size? I doubt it... it'll still look awful due to the sensor noise...
[/soapbox]

coiler
30-09-10, 17:20
How does the HTC HD processor etc compare to galaxy S?

as on Quadrant benchmark the HTC desire scores terribly VS the lagfixed Galaxy.

SENTY
30-09-10, 17:21
well i dont shrink anything nobody mms's anymore! but i agree about cameras above 10mp's just sucking..

Spaceboy
30-09-10, 19:07
I still mms :p

SENTY
30-09-10, 19:19
actually now ive thought about it i do a few a month when i wanna send a pic to someone not on facebook DOH!.. but i dont shrink it i think a phone i had in the past shrunk it that bad that ive always just turned it off..

Mr. Grapes
01-10-10, 10:12
Hey Snake... it turns out the reason you couldn't get angry birds wasn't *just* the screen size...
i couldn't get it either so i looked around:
http://www.talkandroid.com/13583-cant-get-angry-birds-lite-on-the-market-download-the-apk/

coiler
01-10-10, 10:45
Hey Snake... it turns out the reason you couldn't get angry birds wasn't *just* the screen size...
i couldn't get it either so i looked around:
http://www.talkandroid.com/13583-cant-get-angry-birds-lite-on-the-market-download-the-apk/


whats the other reason?

Snakedoc
01-10-10, 10:47
it's only availible in the US. :(

Mr. Grapes
01-10-10, 10:48
but you can just download the apk from that site, as i have done :)

coiler
01-10-10, 10:52
it's only availible in the US. :(

how comes it shows in my app store then?

Snakedoc
01-10-10, 10:55
It shows for me but cant get it says not found when you try to install. Also it does not work on my current phone saying it stopped unexpectedly.

Spaceboy
01-10-10, 10:56
how comes it shows in my app store then?

Mine too.

coiler
01-10-10, 11:00
interestingly on the paid for apps, my app store has some apps which have $ sign and some which have £ sign. i guess I have the "international" app store somehow LOL

Mr. Grapes
01-10-10, 11:03
how comes it shows in my app store then?
good question... maybe phone dependant too...
well i got the apk and it installed fine, won't get to play it til lunchtime tho...

tystar
01-10-10, 18:23
Bull by the horns day today I feel. Not overly happy with the Wildfire. Small screen limits which application can run on it. I am also having problems using it with fat fingers. Texting is a slow painful nightmare.

I phoned 3 and they are swapping it tomorrow for a Samsung Galaxy S i9000. These any good?

Well SD has this turned up today and if so what do you think?

Snakedoc
01-10-10, 18:26
Of course it did. City link had nothing to do with it! Love it. Cant put it down.

tystar
01-10-10, 18:29
Lol

You'll end up with it permanently on charge if you dont put it down.. Like i do lol

You rooted it yet? Appliex lagfix or flashed it too froyo ;)

Snakedoc
01-10-10, 18:50
At the mo thats greek to me. No doubt i will read up and do it.

DoubleTop
01-10-10, 19:11
my new phone turned up today as well, also from three and DPD courier was bang on the money with the texted hourly time slot. Nokia E63 so not quite the same, but £13 a month and does all I need - see the Spotify thread, the E63 has a 3.5mm headphone jack :D

Gadget city this week for me :)

DT.

Snakedoc
01-10-10, 19:34
Dpd ftw. Same here. Brilliant service.

Just got my Galaxy after have a HTC Wildfire for a week or so and hated it. I love this phone! Quite simply the best "phone" I have ever owned! The built in media player and supplied headphones produce a brilliant sound unlike the Wildfire. All the functions are smooth and snappy to use. One major problem I had with the Wildfire was screen size. Fatish finger pressing wrong keys all the time. Texting was painful to say the least. Not so with the full screen of the Galaxy. Can't praise it enough and am listening to music on it now as I can't stop playing lol.

SENTY
03-10-10, 15:39
good stuff glad your happy.

Naphta
03-10-10, 17:18
Mine was due on Friday, but orange decided it was out of stock on Thurs and then on Friday said it was out for testing? :| So I'm going to have a moan on the phone after dinner, as they said they'd call over the weekend and they still haven't

Mr. Grapes
05-10-10, 22:32
yeah, i've been playing non stop with my new droid. in under a week i've unlocked it, rooted it and flashed it to a new (clean) ROM.

It'll definitely tide me over til the next gen

Snakedoc
05-10-10, 22:33
So I do get a bit of a delay sometimes. What's this I hear about a lag fix?

tystar
05-10-10, 23:45
here you go .

http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?cht=qr&chs=135x135&chl=market%3a%2f%2fdetails%3fid%3dcom.rc.QuickFixL agFix%26referrer%3dutm_source%253DAndrolib%2526utm _medium%253DPage%2526utm_campaign%253DAndrolib%252 0Page

This app will root your phone and lag fix it too.

Snakedoc
06-10-10, 00:07
Awesome thank you sire,

says I need to access recovery console or something. The lag fix is unavailible.

sneeker
06-10-10, 00:40
Hang on.. so 3 upgraded your from a wildfire (cheapest droid phone we do at work) to the Galaxy S (dearest phone bar a blackberry torch and the iphones) and didnt charge you anything?
How much is your contract and length? a tenner a month and a 24 month contract doesnt cover the handset costs alone...

Snakedoc
06-10-10, 00:47
They did indeed upgrade me and I am paying less than I was with my c905. £30 pm. 500 texts and mins and 512 of data. Trouble is my ex likes to talk a lot on the phone to me and uses up my credit!

Love the weather thingy. It just started raining here and i refreshed the weather and it reflected it! So much better with the lag fix!

tystar
06-10-10, 08:11
Glad your sorted.

coiler
06-10-10, 09:28
Mine was due on Friday, but orange decided it was out of stock on Thurs and then on Friday said it was out for testing? :| So I'm going to have a moan on the phone after dinner, as they said they'd call over the weekend and they still haven't



my Mum has ordered a Galaxy she's that impressed with mine!

She's got some old samsung that lags like a 56k dialup when browsing through pics.

Orange did her a retention deal when she quoted my tmob deal,

for £22 a month, 1300 x net mins, free landline, 1000 text, unlimited internet (500gb cap, low but enough for her) free phone, but out of stock till later this week.
:knock:


They did indeed upgrade me and I am paying less than I was with my c905. £30 pm. 500 texts and mins and 512 of data. Trouble is my ex likes to talk a lot on the phone to me and uses up my credit!

Love the weather thingy. It just started raining here and i refreshed the weather and it reflected it! So much better with the lag fix!


download quadrant snakey from the app store. Run the benchmark and post your lagfixed scores :D

Spaceboy
06-10-10, 09:32
download quadrant snakey from the app store. Run the benchmark and post your lagfixed scores :D

he already did, reading fail :D

coiler
06-10-10, 09:45
he already did, reading fail :D


In this post?


presuming i've read everyother forum post fail ;) :D

Snakedoc
06-10-10, 09:48
Erm it was 2173 IIRC.

tystar
06-10-10, 12:56
In this post?


presuming i've read everyother forum post fail ;) :D

He has now but it was in the Quadrant thread. IDIOT ;) lol cmon keep up.

coiler
06-10-10, 13:10
He has now but it was in the Quadrant thread. IDIOT ;) lol cmon keep up.


Like I said, i don't have time to read every other forum post! i've not even looked at the quadrant thread as of late (IDIOT) ;) :chairfall:

tystar
06-10-10, 23:46
Better get checking then ;)