Motherboard

[PeterStoba]

Abit AB9 (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard (http://www.********************/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-106-AB)

Is it the same as

Foxconn 945G7MD-8EKRS2H


(http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Motherboards/Socket+775+%28Intel%29/Foxconn+945G7MD-8EKRS2H?productId=28765 (http://www.aria.co.uk/forums/../Products/Components/Motherboards/Socket+775+%28Intel%29/Foxconn+945G7MD-8EKRS2H?productId=28765))

[PeterStoba]

Ohh, i didn't realise there were word filters

The first link is " - Intel® P4 LGA775 Conroe, Pentium D, Pentium EE
- P965/ICH8
- 4 x 240-pin DIMM DDR2 800/667/533 up to max. 8GB
- 1 PCI-E X 16, 2 PCI-E x1, 2 PCI
- 8 x SATA 3G, 1 x IDE
- PCI E GbE LAN
- 2 1394 IEEE a
- 10 USB2.0
- 7.1-CH HD 882D S/PDIF In/OutDolby Digital Live
- Silent OTES
- µGuru, Support Guru Clock

from Over Clock er s"

[Micky007]

The Abit has 8GB MAX Memory and the Foxcom only has 4GB MAX. Also the Abit has 8 Sata Ports, the Foxcom only has 5.

But that doesnt really matter to be honest unless you going to put more than 5 hard drive in the pc. Also the Foxcom is cheaper but out of stock, but should be instock again soon.

[Lynx]

You have the cheek to use **** and ask for support from aria? Fair enough if you dont like aria, but dont use their stuff if your not gonna buy, thats just cheap..

[Micky007]

You have the cheek to use **** and ask for support from aria? Fair enough if you dont like aria, but dont use their stuff if your not gonna buy, thats just cheap..

He hasnt decided which mobo to go for, so he might go for Aria's modo. If you think out it he would probley get the same reaction if he posted on OC as it contains an Aria link so just calm down a little bit.

[mac124]

the abit is a better chipset 965 as apposed to the 945 on the foxconn. I was under the impression 945 only supported upto 800mhz fsb chips but it would seem that is no longer the case, according to the specs on Arias webby anyway. I would appear to only support 667mhz memory though compared to the Abits 800mhz.

The Abit is by far the superior board, even though im not a fan of Abits mobo's.

[PeterStoba]

You have the cheek to use **** and ask for support from aria? Fair enough if you dont like aria, but dont use their stuff if your not gonna buy, thats just cheap..
I'm comparing between alot of websites, narrowed it down to those two, and i am going to go for the aria one, as i will only be using 2HDDs and 2-4GB RAM, but, is the foxconn compatable with http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/CPUs+%2F+Processors/Intel/Core+2+Duo/Intel+Core+2+Duo+E6850+3.00GHz+%28775%29+?productI d=27973 first anyone, if so i will be buying the aria one?

[mac124]

Linky isn't working Peter :(

What item is it?

[PeterStoba]

Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 3.00GHz (775) Quickcode: #27973 Quickcode:

[Micky007]

yes that will work fine with the motherboard

[mac124]

Yes the foxconn would be compatible with that cpu, however it only runs at slow memory speeds bottle necking the fast cpu you chose and leaves no scope for upgrading should you decide to go quad core or upgrade to a new 1333fsb cpu in the future as it is a very low end motherboard. Personally i would pay a little more and get a better motherboard, something like http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Motherboards/Socket+775+%28Intel%29/Asus+P5KPL-VM%2C+iG31+LGA775+Core2+Quad+%2F+Extreme+%2F+Core2 +Duo+?productId=28610

Asus P5KPL-VM, iG31 LGA775 Core2 Quad / Extreme / Core2 Duo Quickcode: #28610 if the linky doesn't work which is a shade over £50, also the Foxconn doesn't appear to be in stock at the mo.

[Micky007]

I agree, thats no point in buying a motherboard that doesnt allow you to upgrade your system in the future when new stuff come out.

[PeterStoba]

Thanks for the help so far, i am now going to purchase the ASUS mobo

Now i need compatable RAM, 2GB, in a bundle or 2single 1GB, whatever is cheapest, and good performance :)

[mac124]

Good idea i just checked and the 6850 IS 1333fsb so wouldn't work in the foxconn anyway, sorry for the misinformation. :redface:

[PeterStoba]

Good idea i just checked and the 6850 IS 1333fsb so wouldn't work in the foxconn anyway, sorry for the misinformation. :redface:
It's ok, we are all human and make mistakes.

[mac124]

OCZ 2GB PC2-6400 Platinum Rev 2.0 (2x1GB) Quickcode: #26605

Would be ideal :D

[Micky007]

or what about Patriot 4GB PC2-6400 Extreme Performance (2x2GB), you wont find these anywhere else as cheap as this. Quickcode: #26803

[PeterStoba]

Thanks guys, gone for the 2GB, not going to be using my pc for much, besides photoshop and indesign, 2GB will be sufficent

[PeterStoba]

Asus P5KPL-VM, iG31 LGA775 I can't find if that has onboard graphics, if not i need a half decent >50 graphics card, as i won't be playing games, just need to look good basically, nothing 8800GTS

[PeterStoba]

I'm not Micky, i am buying the one you recommended, from Aria.

[Micky007]

Aha, i apologize about that, the motherboard does have on board graphics and im going to post a full list of specs the motherboard has for you.

http://www.asus.com/999/images/products/1772/1772_m.jpg


CPU
LGA775 socket for Intel® Core™2 Quad / Core™2 Extreme / Core™2 Duo / Pentium® D / Pentium® 4 / Celeron® Processors
Compatible with Intel® 05B/05A/06 processors
Support Intel next generation 45nm CPU
Intel® Hyper-Threading Technology ready
* Refer to www.asus.com (http://www.asus.com/) for Intel CPU support list


Chipset
Intel® G31 / ICH7
Front Side Bus
1333/1066/800 MHz


Memory
2 x DIMM, max. 4GB, DDR2 800/667 MHz, non-ECC, un-buffered memory
Dual channel memory architecture
* Refer to www.asus.com (http://www.asus.com/) or user manual for Memory QVL (Qualify Vendor List)


Expansion Slots
1 x PCI-E x16
1 x PCI-E x1
2 x PCI


VGA (GRAPHICS)
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator (Intel® GMA 3100) integrated
Max. resolution:2048x1536X32bpp, Horizontal:127.5KHz Vertical:85Hz


Storage Southbridge:
- 1 x UltraDMA 100/66/33
- 4 x Serial ATA 3Gb/s


LAN
PCIe Gb LAN


Audio
Realtek ALC662, 6-CH High-Definition Audio CODEC


USB
8 x USB 2.0 ports (4 ports at mid-board, 4 ports at back panel)


Special Features
ASUS CrashFree BIOS 3
ASUS Q-Fan
ASUS EZ Flash 2
ASUS MyLogo 2


Back Panel I/O Ports
1 x PS/2 Keyboard
1 x PS/2 Mouse
1 x VGA
1 x COM
1 x Parallel port
1 x LAN (RJ45) port
4 x USB 2.0
6 Channel Audio I/O


Internal I/O Connectors
2 x USB connectors support additional 4 USB ports
1 x internal speaker connector
1 x CPU/ Chassis/Power Fan connector
Front panel High Definition audio connector
1 x S/PDIF Out connector
Chassis Intrusion connector
CD audio in
24-pin EPS 12V Power connector
4-pin ATX 12V Power connector
System Panel


BIOS
8Mb Flash ROM, AMI BIOS, PnP, DMI2.0, WfM2.0, SM BIOS 2.5


Manageability
WOL,PXE,RPL,WOR by Ring,PME Wake Up


O/S Compatibility
Windows XP / Vista


Accessories
1 x UltraDMA 100/66/33 cable
1 x Floppy disk drive cable
1 x SATA cable
1 x SATA Power cable
I/O Shield
User's manual


Support Disc
Drivers
ASUS PC Probe II
ASUS Update
Anti-virus software


Form Factor
uATX Form Factor, 9.6" x 8" (24.5cm x 20.3cm)

[PeterStoba]

Thanks alot, that will do me, as i am not using it for any games, just some photoshop and web browsing, and a few other various things. Sorry if i seem a pain but, is an Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 3.00GHz too much for what i need, and could i just get, a dual core 2.6GHz? and overclock?

[Micky007]

Hi,

Yes, i have a E6600 which is 2.8 and i use Photoshop *alot* and its completly fine. You can even overclock the 2.8 to 3.2 !

[mac124]

If you are a hardcore user of Photoshop then you might want to consider the q6600 quadcore. I'm not a photoshopper myself but i believe it makes use of quad cores, and if you can up it to similar speeds to the 6850, which shouldn't be impossible with the right cooling, you will have double the cores at a similar speed for the same £££.

[PeterStoba]

Well, i only really use photoshop, cinema 4d and visual basic.
I think the quad core 2.4GHz delivers 40% more power than the single cores, so i, in theory, should be getting 3.4GHz, for £7 more, but that may be too much for what i need, i am thinking a dual core 2.8GHz? Aria don't seem to stock them, not sure if they exist?

[mac124]

Well the Q6600 whilst it is a few mhz slower 2.4ghz compared to 3ghz of the 6850 imho for the money it would be the better choice for your applications, especially if you don't mind overclocking. If you were a gamer i would say get the 6850 as not many games (if any) really make use of quad core at the mo so the extra speed of the individual cores would be better.

There is a 2.66ghz cpu (6700) but again it is around the same price as the others so again imho the quad would be the better buy.

[PeterStoba]

I'm going with the quad core, but i need to know how to over clock, know any good guides?

[cleggypdc]

My suggestions are that you read the following wiki articles if you want to be able to do it properly (without a guide)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overclocking

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Front_side_bus

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CPU_locking

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SuperPi

And here are some guides :P

http://www.compunamics.com/overclocking.htm

http://www.wikihow.com/Overclock-a-PC

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/newbie-oc-guide.html

[PeterStoba]

Thanks, i currently have a 250W PSU, surelt i will need a better one?

[PeterStoba]

And IF i overclocked the quad, would stock cooling be ok, if it was only going up to 2.5??

[cleggypdc]

yes, you are definately going to need a new PSU :)

I recommend modular ones, as they leave room for future expansion plus any cables you don't use you can take off to keep your case tidy.

something like this should suffice:

http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Power+Supplies/500w+%2B/Xilence+750W+Redwing+Modular+PSU+?productId=27461

[PeterStoba]

I've decided a 450W will be ok, as i am not overclocking

[cleggypdc]

Branded or come with case?

[PeterStoba]

This is basically a new build, started off as updates, but i have completely overhauled my rig, well i should do, when it comes.

I've got a budget of £500, and already spent £460.37, so i've got £39.63 for a PSU :)

[PeterStoba]

I'm keepning current case, HD & Drives, so it'll be branded

[PeterStoba]

I've found two possible contenders, Aria quickcode : 19868 or Aria Quickcode : 24511

[cleggypdc]

Is this spec correct

CPU - Intel Dual Core 3.0GHz
Motherboard - Asus P5KPL-VM
RAM - 2x DDR2 PC26400 1GB
Graphics Card - Onboard
HD - 2x500GB SATAII 8mb, 40GB backup & 320GB External
Drive - 1x LiteOn DVD-RW 20x & 1x Emprex DVD-RW 8x
Display - 22" Hyundai Widescreen

or are you getting the quad-core?

[mac124]

I've found two possible contenders, Aria quickcode : 19868 or Aria Quickcode : 24511


As you're not running a chunky gfx card either of those should be ok. If you did want a modular psu as suggested by Cleggy then you might want to consider the Thermaltake TR2 RX W0146 450W Modular PSU Quickcode: #28847

[cleggypdc]

i agree, this should be fine.

[PeterStoba]

Getting the quad core now, will update sig soon.

So, the Xilence 420W is enough :) Thanks guys

[Micky007]

:D

[PeterStoba]

One last question

Will the Intel Quad Core 2.4GHz, Asus P5KPL-VM and the 2 500GB HD (Not sure what model yet) be ok temperature, in a plain case with just 2front fans?

[Micky007]

yes, aslong as you dont overclock its fine.

[PeterStoba]

Can you recommend some 120mm fans for my case too, 2 or 3, just to keep the thing cool, quiet ones.

I need a case window, Aria don't stock though :sad: Could i cut out a shape, insert perspex, and stick on with some high adesive glue perhaps? not done much case modding before, done the odd build of a computer, but i'm still fairly new, only being 13.

Also, does anyone know if the case soundproofing foam works?

[Micky007]

you making this to complicated, if you want a window then why not just buy a case with a window?

[PeterStoba]

Suppose so, thanks for the help.

[Biodoid]

antec 900 for case lol has a window 3 x 120mm fans and a 200mm fan :P

[coiler]

Just buy a case with a window such as the Antec nine hundred as per above ^^^^^^ :P

[PeterStoba]

Is it possible to add extra fans or lights to my case, with a non modular 420W PSU, Aria Quickcode : 19868

[alexnifty]

There should be enough connectors free to add a couple more fans.

I have the 700W version and theres several spares.

[Micky007]

omg, what are there soooooo many questions

[mac124]

Is it possible to add extra fans or lights to my case, with a non modular 420W PSU, Aria Quickcode : 19868




For fans and stuff like that i tend to either get a Zalman multi fan adapter which allows the connection of upto 4x 3pin fans (2 at 12v and 2 at 7v iirc) Zalman 4X3Pin Multi-fan Connector Quickcode: #6623

Or some Y splitter cables for things like lights etc if you need more molex connectors.

5.25 to 2x 5.25 POWER SPLITTER Quickcode: #86

[PeterStoba]

omg, what are there soooooo many questions
All done now

[Micky007]

All done now

lol, well its better to be sure with what your buying works together than buying it and it not working :D

[PeterStoba]

lol, well its better to be sure with what your buying works together than buying it and it not working :D

Yep, especially with this only being my second build.

I've posted this on 2 forums, and this has gave me the better response, on the other forum, i got hardly anything, on this, i got everything, and more.

Great forum, especially with so few active members

[mac124]

We aim to please :D