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I3R0K3N7FEET

13-09-10, 21:22

this is a post on behalf of my friend:)

ok a little while ago i posted a question about a samsung led tv not taking up the fullscreen when in 1080p.

ive looked into it a LOT and it can be changed in CCC or whatever..

new LED samsung monitor.. DOES THE SAME!!!

why are they doing this? WHY WHY WHY WHY i dont care if it can be changed but on start up i have to open CCC to full screen it every time and it is beyond a joke!! monitor only has hdmi and vga!!! WTF really annoying

do all LED monitors do this?

Pullen

13-09-10, 21:41

HDMI isn't fully compatible with PC's I believe, haven't tried with my led monitor, only used dvi.

Aaron

13-09-10, 21:53

At the moment, LED is just the backlighting technology and has nothing to do with the way the image is displayed.

I'll see if I can give it a go on my monitor with HDMI if I get a chance. You're definitely running at 1920x1080? And the monitor can definitely take that natively?

Pancake

13-09-10, 21:54

Works for me on the monitor downstairs, Nvidia here :lol:

Ali_G

13-09-10, 22:06

HDMI is apparently a bit hit and miss with PCs. Although PC display is part of the HDMI spec, it was a bit of an afterthought, as HD video players (and copy protection) were far higher up in the designers mind. Some manufacturers kit seems to work fine, soem struggle (Samsung and LG seem to be offenders based on the number of forum posts google turns up). I've been doing some research on this as I'm planning a monitor purchase soon. I'd be interested to know which monitors people have had sucess with?

I3R0K3N7FEET

13-09-10, 22:40

well on my own pc i am running 1200p with HDMI no problems.

my mates tv and his monitor are both samsung LED and both HDMI and both are 1080p and both will not fullscreen unless i alter the gpu scaling in CCC...

take the mick having to constantly open CCC just to run the monitor properly

thanks for the replies :D

callumburns

13-09-10, 22:43

im using my telly currently for a monitor and its native 1080p obviously, im using a DVI to HDMI cable but yeah i still have to open CCC every time i turn my pc on to get it full screen :lol:, doesnt bother me that much but its a bit annoying. dont know why it doesnt just save and automatically scan out?

I3R0K3N7FEET

13-09-10, 22:44

i dont understand why it simply doesnt display its native resolution like my monitor does.

Aaron

13-09-10, 22:45

Just out of interest, what happens if you give it a 1920x1080 res through the vga port?

callumburns

13-09-10, 22:48

i tried that with a vga cable and could only get 1680x1050

I3R0K3N7FEET

13-09-10, 22:48

im not sure will have to test it

will get back to you on that.

wonderlust

14-09-10, 10:28

Hmmm any one else see a common denominator here?

It's ATI, My Dell has worked perfectly using HDMI from both an 8800GT (native) and a GTX260 (adaptor).

My 2 ATI cards connected to my LG monitor need CCC to adjust, but in fairness LG do advise (in the manual) that the HDMI port is not PC compatible.

I friend is using a Nvidia IGP connected to a JVC TV via HDMI and has no issues.

Ali_G

14-09-10, 12:43

Excellent spot wonderlust. Anyone tried Nvidia to a Samsung or LG and had it just work?

I3R0K3N7FEET

14-09-10, 12:48

i used ati and no problems :/

will test it out with an nvidia card.

tis pretty crap if its an ati problem :/

Bigian88

14-09-10, 13:11

I have my card set up with dual screens (1 LED monitor and 1 LCD TV) and they both come up fine?

Im using 10.5 drivers if that matters atall

Zaim

14-09-10, 18:35

hmm, i connect my sony KDL52W4000 via laptop with onboard vga (ati) hdmi out, i set the gpu scaling so that it's full screen and it saves it. when ever i connect the tv up it remembers the settings.

Pepp77

14-09-10, 18:45

I have connected a Sapphire 2600XT to a 1080p TV and apart from having to change the overscan when first installed it always stays at full screen - this is using DVI-HDMI.

I have also used the onboard HDMI port on a GA-MA78GM-S2H with the same TV and again no issues after first setup - this same connection to a 720p LG TV also had no issues.

I have also used an XFX 5450 via DVI-HDMI with the exact same result - ie no problems.

Common denominator they are all ATI GPUS :)

Gav

14-09-10, 19:32

My ATI 3870 did this when I first hooked it up to my 1080p TV. I changed the scaling options in the CCC and it's never done it again though, even after several reboots.

HecklerUK

17-09-10, 10:46

I think this is an ATI thing. Didn't have the problem with my nvidia 9600GT via DVI to HDMI but when I first setup the ATI card after building a new media centre (pure HDMI), the first time I booted up the screen was 15% smaller. Adjusted it in CCC and it never happened again.

When I swapped the onboard ATI 3200 for a dedicated ATI 4350 the same thing happened again the first time I booted... but after being adjusted in CCC it never came back.

This was on a 32" Samsung TV.

Whilst the nvida got the screen res right first time, the image especially for video and media centre is not as good as that of ATI and the settings available through nvidia control panel is pathetic in comparison to ATI.

I'd still prefer an ATI card for this than any nvidia one.

Bigian88

17-09-10, 12:24

All it took was ONE change on the control centre on display 2 set at 1080p and that was it, never had to change it again since and im running on a 5770!

Anti-ATI bashing comment there ;)

I3R0K3N7FEET

18-09-10, 06:21

Pepp77

18-09-10, 07:50

well i had a mess around yesterday and he has to constantly change settings in CCC everytime he opens a game it resets to 'default' IE not fullscreen and he has to open CCC to reset it pretty much every time. every start up etc etc really frustrating

Although it shouldnt do that (I would guess as it doesnt do it on mine0 the best solution would be to create a hotkey that changes the overscan setting. Then he doesnt have to open CCC but just press the hotkey.

Cutshaw

23-10-10, 18:49

I just tried HDMI on my LED for the first time last night. Right enough, first boot I had borders, so I googled 5870+hdmi+borders. Found a post on a forum on the first page of results that said I had to push the scaling slider to 0%. It fixed it right away, and I've not had to do it again.

I've no idea why you would have to do it every time, but it's not supposed to be like that. Maybe try a clean install of the drivers?

I3R0K3N7FEET

23-10-10, 18:53

tried clean install several times it still does it

FWIW its connected to two screens.. and it had the same prob on both, but after adjusting one has saved the setting the other (main monitor) constantly needs CCC opened and closed

HecklerUK

23-10-10, 19:28

Sounds like a corrupt driver install or there's a setting that's not being adjusted correctly.

It's got to be one or the other... bad install or user error. :)

wonderlust

23-10-10, 19:32

My second system HTPC system (HD4670) I had to adjust the scaling slider once, but it has stayed there. BTW using cat 10.5.

monitor aspect ratio is set to "just scan"

I3R0K3N7FEET

23-10-10, 19:54

Sounds like a corrupt driver install or there's a setting that's not being adjusted correctly.

It's got to be one or the other... bad install or user error. :)

err yeh because im a ****ing numpty....

stfu how is it user error or bad install when this problem has spanned from windows vista 3x windows 7 installs and several clean driver installs and several different graphics cards?

it seems to be a more localised issue with the AMD drivers and having more than one screen (not eyefinity)

HecklerUK

23-10-10, 21:28

I3R0K3N7FEET

23-10-10, 22:11

I assume that you've tried this?

http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/GPU82-Over-UnderscanSettings.aspx

Took me all of 2 seconds to search that up.

Can I also suggest getting a sense of humour, :)

take what i say with a grain of humour and shove it up your *** beeeatch...

just dont crap yourself when you strain a little.

thanks for the link but it didnt help much.

though it would have done.. just updated the drivers from 10.9-10.10 and all is fine ;)

Terbinator

23-10-10, 22:11

For what its worth i can't get any signal over HDMI via the 785G(4200 IGP) based build in the house - have to use DVI/VGA.

Edit: Haven't tried the latest drivers, if they do fix the problem they're about a year too fudgin' late.

I3R0K3N7FEET

23-10-10, 22:14

never had a problem on my 785g mobo, maybe the hdmi port is dead?

hope the latest drivers do something though!

Aaron

23-10-10, 22:17

Just chill a little guys.. The swear filter is there for a reason, but it doesnt mean you should still use the words, even if they are starred out....

Plus it'll run out of stars one day, and so we'll just have to ban you instead, for breaking the filter! ;) :lol:

I3R0K3N7FEET

23-10-10, 22:18

Aaron

23-10-10, 22:20

ok - I was having a bit of fun with a gentle reminder. Now this is me saying, dont push it.

:)

Terbinator

23-10-10, 22:20

never had a problem on my 785g mobo, maybe the hdmi port is dead?

hope the latest drivers do something though!

While i personally can't see it, i think its a driver issue as its only ever been tried on a 1080p screen and I've noticed on the motherboard disk there is a HDMI driver thats independent of the GPU drivers.

I3R0K3N7FEET

23-10-10, 22:22

While i personally can't see it, i think its a driver issue as its only ever been tried on a 1080p screen and I've noticed on the motherboard disk there is a HDMI driver thats independent of the GPU drivers.

do you not install CCC? the hdmi driver is included with that?

@Aaron

see above<<

Aaron

23-10-10, 22:24

do you not install CCC? the hdmi driver is included with that?

@Aaron

see above<<
Ninja edit! :lol:

Terbinator

23-10-10, 22:30

do you not install CCC? the hdmi driver is included with that?

@Aaron

see above<<

After it didn't work the first time I've just used DVI, so i couldn't tell you if the problem has been rectified in later drivers, seeing as its AMD i have little faith.