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power fuse0
30-08-10, 13:16
Wow,
Well yesterday evidence was thrown against someone who was selling Logitech and Microsoft gaming hardware to people on a forum and there is now an open case against this person.
I thought I'd post some interesting gossip here about it.
So me and my friends all together ''bought'' somewhere around £350 worth of stuff from this person, and other people from the forum bought from him too. A month later we don't have the items, and yesterday the forum officials asked us to file police reports.
He was a trusted member with 13,000 posts and a gold account with the forum and he still turned out to be a fraudster.
So today i've been on the phone with paypal, the non emergency police and consumer direct trying to get some money back and file reports correctly.
First time for being scammed like this for me. D:.
Who else has been scammed via the internet for actual money (runescape / wow scamms don't count :P)
Ouch, I've never been scammed, never really buy 2nd hand stuff :P.
Although on a forum the majority of us used to be on, there were two scammers on there, and in one instance the police were involved. The other one, I don't know, you'll have to ask Mr. Strawberry about that one.
this thread reminds me of the guy who was selling the bike back at NT :confused:
never did get my £5 back lol
Lorem-Ipsum
30-08-10, 13:22
Never been scammed over the Internet myself.
i always make sure to have plenty details on the person I'm buying from and if possible I like to collect items in person.
power fuse0
30-08-10, 13:31
Yeah, one or two of the admin poted in his threads about it being legit aswell.
Aparently he was a re-seller.
There are claims that he got hacked, but he's had police reports and fraud reports files against him now.
So in lamens terms. He's fudged.
Personally i would burn his house down.
I got scammed £80 on fleabay but was my own fault sent a GPU 2nd class with no proof of postage (well the missus did).
GentleGiant
30-08-10, 13:37
There are claims that he got hacked, but he's had police reports and fraud reports files against him now.
So in lamens terms. He's fudged.
I would believe that; who would build up 13000 posts just to scam a few hundred pounds??
I would believe that; who would build up 13000 posts just to scam a few hundred pounds??
What and he never noticed these posts on the forum he obviously frequents on a regular basis with his name on?
I've never been scammed over the web before, but someone once tried on Steam. Unless you count the Dreamcast that I won on Cartoon Network about 10 years ago which never turned up.
O wait, I remember sending a cheque off for 75p to Beano, to be a member, yet nothing happened :(.
I would believe that; who would build up 13000 posts just to scam a few hundred pounds??
Perhaps he built up ~13000 posts and then had a reason to scam people - it might not have been their intention originally.
power fuse0
30-08-10, 14:40
he may easily have just decided not to want to be on the forum any more,a nd wanted to make some money from it, either way it was still harsh taking money from kids.
I say kids, i'm 18, and my friends are 18 and 15 and 16.
lol.
fullfatmilk
30-08-10, 14:43
got scammed out of £70 back in 03 along with a load of others on various other forums, we must have been more trusting back then as none of us had the c***s address so we couldn't do anything about it :mad:
wonderlust
30-08-10, 14:48
well sort of internet based....
someone had £500 from my Credit card and used it on a bingo site...
Plolice traced it so far then just a dead end, it wasn't a card I used very often so I knew where it had been swiped.
got a full refund btw
he may easily have just decided not to want to be on the forum any more,a nd wanted to make some money from it, either way it was still harsh taking money from kids.
I say kids, i'm 18, and my friends are 18 and 15 and 16.
lol.
How did you pay?
haven't been scammed as such, have had a couple of ebay auctions go bad with people sending back "my item" broken only the magic marker writing seemed to have disappeared ;) and oddly the serial numbers have altered - weird that :chuckle:
DT.
KarlHungus
30-08-10, 16:01
Ive been scammed a few times on ebay over the years. I purchased 2 x 6800gt's a few years ago (maybe 2005) from a seller with 100+ feedback and never received my items, at the time paypal was even worst than it is now and i was out of pocket £100 still even with a refund.
I sold my rangerover on ebay, seller left me a £250 deposit through paypal, after collecting the car and paying balance of £2800 a week later they did a chargeback through their credit card company (bit pathetic really).
There are a few other instances but ive received full refunds so not worth mentioning.
My friend sold his dell xps m1710 laptop on ebay a few weeks ago and sent it to the buyer via recorded post, seller claimed he received an empty box and paypal awarded in buyers favor and issued a refund. This is the second time in a year ive seen this happen when buyers claim all they receive is an empty box.
On a forum community when people have thousands of posts and are regular visitors i suppose its not something you'd expect but indeed it does happen.
My friend sold his dell xps m1710 laptop on ebay a few weeks ago and sent it to the buyer via recorded post, seller claimed he received an empty box and paypal awarded in buyers favor and issued a refund. This is the second time in a year ive seen this happen when buyers claim all they receive is an empty box.
Surely thats easily dismissed as bull**** as the weight would be nowhere near that of a laptop and would cost a lot less to post.
power fuse0
30-08-10, 16:06
How did you pay?
paypal. via gift.
paypal. via gift.
And is it his paypal account that you sent the money too?
AmdOverclocker
30-08-10, 16:15
Ive been scammed a few times on ebay over the years. I purchased 2 x 6800gt's a few years ago (maybe 2005) from a seller with 100+ feedback and never received my items, at the time paypal was even worst than it is now and i was out of pocket £100 still even with a refund.
I sold my rangerover on ebay, seller left me a £250 deposit through paypal, after collecting the car and paying balance of £2800 a week later they did a chargeback through their credit card company (bit pathetic really).
There are a few other instances but ive received full refunds so not worth mentioning.
My friend sold his dell xps m1710 laptop on ebay a few weeks ago and sent it to the buyer via recorded post, seller claimed he received an empty box and paypal awarded in buyers favor and issued a refund. This is the second time in a year ive seen this happen when buyers claim all they receive is an empty box.
On a forum community when people have thousands of posts and are regular visitors i suppose its not something you'd expect but indeed it does happen.
sorry but thats the silliest thing ive heard, how could paypal do that? you should go to his house and kill him with a shotgun (or get a air rifle if you dont have a gun license and shoot him in each eye 20 times until he dies)
paypal. via gift.
Ouch bad move, can't claim anything back through paypal when sent as gift.
But if it was this guys Paypal that the money went to then how can he claim he's been hacked?
But if it was this guys Paypal that the money went to then how can he claim he's been hacked?
Believe it or not, some people have the same password for certain other sites?
KarlHungus
30-08-10, 19:04
sorry but thats the silliest thing ive heard, how could paypal do that? you should go to his house and kill him with a shotgun (or get a air rifle if you dont have a gun license and shoot him in each eye 20 times until he dies)
It happens, paypal dont contact the shipping carrier or something is what my mate said, he had to do the investigation from his end he was able to supply the full receipt with weight on it and a proof of signature but paypal still awarded in favor of buyer.
This is why i never sell anything expensive through ebay unless its a collection where the buyer has to pay cash.
It happens, paypal dont contact the shipping carrier or something is what my mate said, he had to do the investigation from his end he was able to supply the full receipt with weight on it and a proof of signature but paypal still awarded in favor of buyer.
This is why i never sell anything expensive through ebay unless its a collection where the buyer has to pay cash.
Then i would have taken them to court, Paypal aren't a legal authority.
KarlHungus
30-08-10, 19:11
My mates old paypal account is still -£340 or so, he was able to block the direct debit before paypal could take it as a takes a few days for it to be debited.
He has had a few threatning letters from paypal but he opens them and bins them, he has opened a new paypal account now but said he will only buy stuff now one bay and not sell anything ever again.
He did consult a solicitor about it but as i remember it would have had to go through the county court and in the long run wasnt worthwhile.
power fuse0
30-08-10, 19:45
Then i would have taken them to court, Paypal aren't a legal authority.
yes it is
Why?
A Ginger Sheep
30-08-10, 20:28
yes it is
Why?
lol no its not. its a business. businesses dont have any legal authority, thats what the judiciary is for
paypal isn't covered by the FSA either .....
GentleGiant
30-08-10, 20:34
What and he never noticed these posts on the forum he obviously frequents on a regular basis with his name on?
I dont know the forum or the details but perhaps he was away on a regular basis and some scammer noticed the pattern??
It might even be someone he knew, who would know when it would be safe to hijack his account.
As I said 13 THOUSAND posts for a £350 scam?? Not likely!!!
Mr. Strawberry
30-08-10, 20:39
indeed i have been scammed out of £150 on the old forum
still have the scammers bank account details that i want to use in some very inventive way to :censored: him off and make my money back
just havent thought of how yet
Paypal is a financier at best.
They have no legal right to direct funds to one party or another over claims of fraud or theft.
Actual banks find it very difficult to do this without the result of a Police Investigation.
power fuse0
31-08-10, 01:48
i quoted the wrong thing.
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