View Full Version : Ubuntu 10.04 is awesome!
Toonshorty
26-08-10, 13:12
I must say I've been mighty impressed with the Linux (Ubuntu 10.04) experience so far.
It's the first real Linux I've tried but it's simple to use, features a really nice GUI and running Firefox only uses 263MB RAM!
I've got the correct resolution set up now and dual monitors is working great.
I downloaded the 10.8 drivers for Linux and ran a simple bash command to run the installer.
If Linux had DirectX I'd use it as my 24/7 OS.
I think i tried Hardy Heron which ever ubuntu that was, but it took me hours of commands to get the wireless working.
Never bothered with Linux after that.
Glad you are enjoying it though.
It's improving with every release, less hassle to get stuff working an more stuff working right off the bat.
Toonshorty
26-08-10, 13:21
It's improving with every release, less hassle to get stuff working an more stuff working right off the bat.
Yeah, had a little problem with the display at the start.
Had to replace quiet splash with xforcevesa but it's all fine now.
El Wayno - You should give Ubuntu 10.04 a look. It feels really natural to use coming from a Windows and Mac user - it's like having them both combined. I love it!
Hardly Heron is 8.04 - A lot will have changed since then.
More and more drivers and programs are coming out for Linux - especially since netbooks took it on.
Mr. Grapes
26-08-10, 13:28
Hardy need the most amount of fiddling with of any ubuntu ver on my lappy, but it was also the last one that actually worked with my trackpad... :( 10.04 just flew out of the box, but because of a bug in what appears to be the synaptics driver, the left mouse button will frequently 'stick' down (only in software, the physical buttons are fine) but works fine in XP.
even more unfortunately, it's not just ubuntu! (which is why i think it's a driver issue) as the latest Fedora does it too :rolleyes:
maybe puppy will be the way forward with this lappy...
...coming from a Windows and Mac user - it's like having them both combined. I love it!
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I think the out of the box Gnome theme they have makes it VERY mac like. the feel of the gnome file manager is almost identical to finder. an aqua like skin and you'd be very hard pressed to tell them apart
fullfatmilk
26-08-10, 13:52
I tried ubuntu a little while back on an older laptop and after spending half an hour getting adobe flash installed decided that it was not worth it when something that should be so simple was actually a complete pain in the rear.
that and the fact it ran a lot slower than xp did, even the lighter lubuntu was still slower than xp
Yeah it's getting better but problem is windows is just easier to use.
Tried heron and really struggled getting dual monitor support AND hardware 3d support on my ATI... I could have one or the other apparently but not both lol.
Probably the fault of ATI as much as Ubuntu :D
Toonshorty
26-08-10, 14:07
I tried ubuntu a little while back on an older laptop and after spending half an hour getting adobe flash installed decided that it was not worth it when something that should be so simple was actually a complete pain in the rear.
that and the fact it ran a lot slower than xp did, even the lighter lubuntu was still slower than xp
I tried Fedora a while ago and I just couldn't get anything to work.
Ubuntu is like a totally different experience - it just works :thumb:
Yeah it's getting better but problem is windows is just easier to use.
Windows is also £120, Linux is not only free but in some aspects better.
Tried heron and really struggled getting dual monitor support AND hardware 3d support on my ATI... I could have one or the other apparently but not both lol.
Probably the fault of ATI as much as Ubuntu :D
Well I just installed Ubuntu 10.04, downloaded the 10.8 drivers, typed a line of code, restarted Linux and I've got dual monitors running instantly.
Linux is evolving quickly - I've always struggled with it but this version seems too easy to use, it's no longer got the requirements of extreme technical knowledge.
I tried Fedora a while ago and I just couldn't get anything to work.
Ubuntu is like a totally different experience - it just works :thumb:
Windows is also £120, Linux is not only free but in some aspects better.
Well I just installed Ubuntu 10.04, downloaded the 10.8 drivers, typed a line of code, restarted Linux and I've got dual monitors running instantly.
Linux is evolving quickly - I've always struggled with it but this version seems too easy to use, it's no longer got the requirements of extreme technical knowledge.
Well true windows costs money an unix is free as its open source, but it's one of those things users want simplicity, most users can't waste time trying get some easy things working which takes 20-30 mins trouble shooting on unix.
Toonshorty
26-08-10, 14:13
Well true windows costs money an unix is free as its open source, but it's one of those things users want simplicity, most users can't waste time trying get some easy things working which takes 20-30 mins trouble shooting on unix.
I just got my 5 year printer working in 5 minutes.
It took me longer to get it working in Windows :lol:
I just got my 5 year printer working in 5 minutes.
It took me longer to get it working in Windows :lol:
yep well they give an take between both sides :p
fullfatmilk
26-08-10, 14:30
I tried Fedora a while ago and I just couldn't get anything to work.
Ubuntu is like a totally different experience - it just works :thumb:
I'll agree that the core of it works great, I boot from the cd for testing all the time and apart from the wireless drivers it picks up everything else most of the time and on more recent machines runs quite nicely. But when it came to actually using it as an OS it just annoyed me with it's clumsy awkwardness regarding finding and installing software :knock:
A Ginger Sheep
26-08-10, 14:32
only reason i dont use it is because my wireless adaptor doesent work 'out of the box' and i have no idea how to go about getting it to work.
Probably have to manually hunt for the linux driver for it
Toonshorty
26-08-10, 14:36
What adapter is it, I'll have a look.
A Ginger Sheep
26-08-10, 14:47
this one
http://www.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=372137
I've used a ubuntu boot cd lots of times, and I do find it very useful. Not sure I'd use it as my 24/7 standard os. Not least because I write software for .net which is strictly (well there is mono) Microsoft.
Ah .net framework user :thumb:
Mr. Grapes
26-08-10, 15:05
same here... all my software creation is either .net (i could use mono...) or native WinAPI
and as of this week, cocoa.
I don't think visual studio and/or the debugger will run under wine...
I'm very impressed with it to.I have 7 machines here including 2 laptops and have Ubuntu 10.04 on two of them. I intend migrating to Ununtu on all of them except 2 for gaming on. It's faster than Windows, uses less HD and memory, and from now on any additional boxes/HTPCs I build will be Ubuntu.
I only wish more people would try it - I to tried it a couple of years ago and it just wan't there yet, but now I think it's time has definitely arrived.
Ubuntu like the easiest form of unix to pick up on their is :thumb: i use to use it years ago cause FAH was miles quicker on unix than windows but recent work from standford have made FAH same speed on both unix an windows, so little point for me now.
Glad to see more people converting.
The next release 10.10 is shaping up to look and work pretty awesome (already works better than 10.04 for me).
Network manager has improved A LOT since hardy, i also had no working wireless until i found drivers but nowadays it works instantly...i use ethernet now anyway.
If you didn't like Hardy try it now, you will notice a massive difference not only in look but it works way better.
Something great about Ubuntu is their "Papercuts" where they find 100 easily fixable annoyances with Linux every release (they don't always fix that many), from weird wording to changing the way you use something, it's why it's the easiest to use.
A Ginger Sheep
26-08-10, 16:45
downloading the 10.10 latest build to see if my wireless works with it
Toonshorty
26-08-10, 16:46
this one
http://www.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=372137
http://blog.delgurth.com/2008/08/17/followup-on-the-belkin-f5d8053-and-ubuntu/
Just applied for a job for Canonical - wish me luck ;)
A Ginger Sheep
26-08-10, 16:51
http://blog.delgurth.com/2008/08/17/followup-on-the-belkin-f5d8053-and-ubuntu/
thing is though i dont understand what im meant to do still, like how do i go about building a kernal module? i am a complete noob at stuff like this keep in mind
edit:
found this though http://web.ralinktech.com/ralink/Home/Support/Linux.html
anyone know how i find out which ralink part is inside my adaptor know so i can download the relevant 'driver'
Think I'll download this and give it a try.
Toonshorty
26-08-10, 16:56
thing is though i dont understand what im meant to do still, like how do i go about building a kernal module? i am a complete noob at stuff like this keep in mind
So am I.
I've only started today - I just follow the instructions.
If it asks you to run a command just type what they tell you to into Terminal.
If you get stuck make a post in the forums and we'll do our best to help :rolleyes:
iv been using 10.04 for a couple of months now and love it - really great OS, i see it as definately comparible to OSX/windows.
Terbinator
26-08-10, 17:00
Tried the last 3 revisions including 10.4.
It's clearly the best one they've launched and user friendliness is top notch compared to some of the other releases.
However, theres absolutely no use for it to me personally. You can't play games, i can't sync to my Zune, Skype is awful on it (like a lot of things) and for someone even more of a *Nix n00b than me - hunting for packages etc can be a bit of a testes ache (this are has improved a lot with 10.4 though, i tip my hat to them).
After a good few weeks usage you realise that unless your running on a laptop(or indeed PC) with 1GB of RAM, Windows is fine.
Conversely maybe you work in a *nix environment in which case it probably is viable option too OSX/7.
A Ginger Sheep
26-08-10, 17:22
http://blog.delgurth.com/2008/08/17/followup-on-the-belkin-f5d8053-and-ubuntu/
man all the links in that article are broken so its useless unfortunately
AmdOverclocker
26-08-10, 18:43
It's the first real Linux I've tried but it's simple to use, features a really nice GUI and running Firefox only uses 263MB RAM!
ONLY! in windows mine uses 150 MB :/
I think he means Linux OS + Firefox = total 263MB ;)
Toonshorty
26-08-10, 18:46
ONLY! in windows mine uses 150 MB :/
No, the whole system uses that.
In windows firefox might use 150MB but the OS is using a hell'ova lot more.
That was the OS, Firefox and anything else only using 250MB RAM!
Mr. Grapes
26-08-10, 19:54
Hmmm 10.10 Maverick....
how does it compare to 10.04? :p
I think I'm going to VM it
Lucid Lynx is an excellent O/S, especially for first time Linux users. I find everything very intuitve. In fact, I rarely use Windows PC's these days other than for serious gaming.
Also have my home server running on Lucid Lynx server and have no problem with it at all. Makes a nice change to be able to run such an effective server on such a low-spec system.
I have even managed to get COD Modern Warfare 2 to run on Linux (through Wine) with impressive results
haven't used Ubuntu in a while might have to start again
Lorem-Ipsum
27-08-10, 11:15
I like ubuntu for some aspects but they do change a lot of the standard linux releases so sometimes it can take a long time for a fix to be released.
Personally I am an arch linux fan.
Mr. Grapes
27-08-10, 11:21
ahhhh might have to try arch on the lappy...
any game iv tried to play in wine has failed miserably. but that was always going to happen, poor linux guys are trying to reverse engineer windows, which i cant imagine is easy! i am constantly impressed wi ubunutu, very user friendly, and not a drain on resources - i guess if anyone is eco-friendly minded out there, the lower power consumption is a good thing.
I think the games available for Linux (Nexuiz, Warsow etc.) are good enough for the casual gamer... just wish there were some options not based on Quake (yes, because i'm rubbish at fast paced stuff :p ).
Lorem-Ipsum
28-08-10, 17:17
ahhhh might have to try arch on the lappy...
Takes some time to set up and get used to. Just follow the arch beginners guide in their wiki. Arch does require more manual configuration than other distros but their config files are second to none.
Well i'm currently using Maverick (the dev release) and it's looking so good.
Software Centre has a much nicer look and feel to it now :)
Got latest 64bit Ubuntu up, hosted on VirtualBox. Looks tidy, only problem is its windowed and i cant use fullscreen for Ubuntu, even selecting fullscreen leaves a small screen to work on, not ideal.
VB allows only 128mb video mem, could that be the issue ?
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