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Oscar99
24-08-10, 08:57
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Craig-Smallwood-Lawsuit-Lineage-II-Law,11139.html#xtor=RSS-998



it seems you can sue almost anyone for almost anything nowadays - it's a joke :rolleyes:

sb89
24-08-10, 09:12
unable to function independently in usual daily activities such as getting up, getting dressed, bathing or communicating with family and friends.This guy is so messed up. Not just for the fact that he is trying to sue them but also that a video games gives him difficulty getting dressed, having a shower and getting up. :|

SENTY
24-08-10, 09:13
I agree with the guy, Just because something is electronic doesnt mean it cannot be addictive and damaging. Its obvious games like WoW and starcraft and more and more FPS games like BC2 are deliberatly made to be as addictive as possible. They do cause damage, the link between Video games and depression is well documented. On the same subject some new medication has been developed in Korea to treat "video game depression"

I dont think it a joke, Everyone knows someone who is a video game addict. Ive lost a few friends to wow and starcraft and ive never seen them since..



All the things he describes as his symptoms are the symptoms of depression

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/08/20/south-korean-psychiatrists-treating-starcraft-addiction-with-dru/

In some asian countries video games are restricted i.e. you can only play them for a few hours a day.

wonderlust
24-08-10, 09:14
Perhaps I should sue Aria for having an adictive forum ;)

Oscar99
24-08-10, 09:16
Perhaps I should sue Aria for having an adictive forum ;)

completely agree haha !

& Senty, no i don't agree with that - it's impossible to get addicted a game xD

I Loveeeee Counter Strike : Source however i don't play it to the point where i have difficulty dressing myself lol.

If your friends would rather play WoW & than talk/see you then perhaps they're not "Friends" lol - just :censored:

NickCPC
24-08-10, 09:22
I agree with the guy, Just because something is electronic doesnt mean it cannot be addictive and damaging. Its obvious games like WoW and starcraft and more and more FPS games like BC2 are deliberatly made to be as addictive as possible. They do cause damage, the link between Video games and depression is well documented. On the same subject some new medication has been developed in Korea to treat "video game depression"

I dont think it a joke, Everyone knows someone who is a video game addict. Ive lost a few friends to wow and starcraft and ive never seen them since..



All the things he describes as his symptoms are the symptoms of depression

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/08/20/south-korean-psychiatrists-treating-starcraft-addiction-with-dru/
Yeah, but you'd be a stark-raving mad lunatic to go and sue a drug baron because he's sold you heroin. I'm not saying that gaming can't be addictive, but it's beyond absurd to suggest he can win a court case against them. What next, someone will sue God because they've got addicted to breathing air? I mean, come on.

IMO People in today's society can't take responsibility for their own actions... a sane and normal person would realise something was wrong if they aren't able to stop. Chances are someone else has pointed out he won't be fit for work for ages, and he's probably running out of money, and if he wants to sort his life out he's going to need psychotherapy which is obviously expensive in the States. How would he get money? Sue.

Hope he loses.

Spaceboy
24-08-10, 09:22
I think you can get addicted to computer games, even to the detriment of some real life activities (it's always nicer to play games than do chores ;) )... but that isn't the fault or responsibility of the game company.

I myself became somewhat addicted to WoW over the past few years, then I had kids and so my priorities changed. It's a question of self-control, and clearly this guy has none whatsoever. Who's fault is that? If he wasn't addicted to a computer game he'd find something else to be addicted to - It could be Sudoku, or jigsaws, or collecting model aircraft... there will always be people that try and blame their own problems on other people *sigh*.

I don't deny he needs help, but suing the maker of your own self-inflicted addiction is wrong. Get counselling ;)

SENTY
24-08-10, 09:24
& Senty, no i don't agree with that - it's impossible to get addicted a game xD


The addiction is a medical fact, its just wether that caused those symptoms that is in question. I would google video game addiction if i were you. Its medical fact in china and korea where laws prevent games from being played.

The koreans have even made drugs to cure game addiction

the gaming depression is also pretty common

there is even a clinic in the UK to treat it http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/5191678.stm

wonderlust
24-08-10, 09:26
Wasn't there a PC game that was supposed to release endorphins?

Can't for the life of me what it was called.

Oscar99
24-08-10, 09:27
hmm God help me when i become depressed when the new Bad Company comes out, might sue Dice & EA

SENTY
24-08-10, 09:31
Yeah, but you'd be a stark-raving mad lunatic to go and sue a drug baron because he's sold you heroin. I'm not saying that gaming can't be addictive, but it's beyond absurd to suggest he can win a court case against them. What next, someone will sue God because they've got addicted to breathing air? I mean, come on.

IMO People in today's society can't take responsibility for their own actions... a sane and normal person would realise something was wrong if they aren't able to stop. Chances are someone else has pointed out he won't be fit for work for ages, and he's probably running out of money, and if he wants to sort his life out he's going to need psychotherapy which is obviously expensive in the States. How would he get money? Sue.

Hope he loses.

I agree that we are responsible for ourselves but we have no way of knowing the effects of something we buy, we are not scientists, so we are entitled to have a clear explanation of what we are buying and what it will do.

We do live in a a nanny state where you can sue people for making a product that harms yo Unless that harm is documented on the product

where does it say on the game box that it will suck up your life and cause you to be an addict with depression ? thats why i think he might have a case and that IF he won then there would then be labelling on games to warn about the addictive nature of the game. Not that that would change much

sb89
24-08-10, 09:33
It is possible to be addicted to games but I don't think you can sue the game company. If people are addicted to games then it's self inflicted. Can't blame the game company for lack of their own self control.

SENTY
24-08-10, 09:34
Wasn't there a PC game that was supposed to release endorphins?

Can't for the life of me what it was called.

ALL video games release endorphins that's how they are addictive. YOu play and you feel good when you do well and achieve something that good feeling is because endorphins are released. But all endorphine releasing events are addictive whether its heroin or winning an online game.

sb98 its not the addictive part that they could be sued over its the causing depression which is actual damage to your body and can kill you.
IF this guy proved his depression was caused by that game then he will be entitled to lots of compensation as he has been harmed by a product that caries no warning of that harm.

Oscar99
24-08-10, 09:37
to be perfectly honest, what is the addiction with these games? WoW is incredibly dull & boring , i don't understand how so many people play it.

I've got to the stage where i dont play games to complete levels etc - i just play them for the Community Banter, nothing better than hopping onto CSS & hearing someone shout abuse down the mic at another player lol.


That aside, the guy buying the game sealed his fate when he paid for the game, any form of "Entertainment" can be addictive , it's all about Self Control as previously mentioned.

NickCPC
24-08-10, 09:38
I agree that we are responsible for ourselves but we have no way of knowing the effects of something we buy, we are not scientists, so we are entitled to have a clear explanation of what we are buying and what it will do.

We do live in a a nanny state where you can sue people for making a product that harms yo Unless that harm is documented on the product

where does it say on the game box that it will suck up your life and cause you to be an addict with depression ? thats why i think he might have a case and that IF he won then there would then be labelling on games to warn about the addictive nature of the game. Not that that would change much
But again, where does it stop? Are pets I want to buy going to have to have a label stuck to them because I might love them too much and I'll be sad when it dies? I see where you're coming from and the closest thing I can think of that's similar is labelling on food where you might have an allergic reaction, but I'm hoping common sense will kick in. Besides, it's not a guaranteed reaction - if you buy a game, you aren't automatically going to become addicted... it's an extreme case that most people will never have to deal with.

But yeah, I can't see him winning. It goes back to my point of people taking responsibility for their own actions.

Ninjacat
24-08-10, 09:39
the funny thing is ive played Lineage 2 but on the private servers. True it can be addictive but thats why god created the OFF SWITCH :P

:chairfall:

Spaceboy
24-08-10, 09:40
ALL video games release endorphins that's how they are addictive.

So what you're saying is ALL computer game makers should be sued for making their games fun ? :P

Col
24-08-10, 09:43
20,000 hours over five years? You call that addiction?!

wonderlust
24-08-10, 09:43
I remember now...

Endorfun

Oscar99
24-08-10, 09:45
I remember now...

Endorfun

Those of you that want to try it - heres a link

http://www.hotud.org/component/content/article/41-puzzle/41/23892



Disclaimer: try not to get addicted.

k3vst3r
24-08-10, 09:48
Its like a heroin addict trying sue his crack dealer.

Snakedoc
24-08-10, 09:52
How completely preposterous the whole thing is. "Could not bathe." "Could not function." It's the little nerds own fault for being so sad. Everything in moderation and you are fine. I blame the child and his parents for not being responsible and ensuring he had a balanced lifestyle.

Honestly, I assume this is in America? Hmm yes.

Oscar99
24-08-10, 09:54
It's the little nerds own fault for being so sad.


Lol - couldn't have said it any better myself.

Sigma
24-08-10, 11:49
Well it's America, that land the let's you sue anyone for just about anything. As such it's not surprising to hear about someone suing a game company in such a fashion :)

zaz
24-08-10, 13:39
Im gonna sue Andrex for my addiction to their velvety soft soft soft tissue paper and my inabilty to function in the smallest room without it.

Ninjacat
24-08-10, 13:43
well im going to sue god for making air

its so addictive, im forced to live off it :rolleyes:

SENTY
24-08-10, 15:14
you cant sue because of addiction but you can because something makes you sick.. the game game this guy depression which is well documented as a side effect of gaming and a serious illness.

Sniperdude
24-08-10, 15:40
you cant sue because of addiction but you can because something makes you sick.. the game game this guy depression which is well documented as a side effect of gaming and a serious illness.



I get the same side effect when reading your posts, maybe i should sue you :chairfall:

Skywalker
24-08-10, 15:43
I tend to chew and swallow most the time