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Oli356
18-07-10, 17:16
Never changed my RAM stuff in the BIOS so could/most likely the reason for the BSODs i am getting once again

Think im on my 7th today..

Crucial 4GB (2X2GB) DDR2 800MHz/PC2-6400 Ballistix Memory CL4 2.0V

Type DRAM
Technology DDR II SDRAM
Technology DDR2 SDRAM
Form Factor DIMM 240-pin
Module Height (inch) 1.18
Memory Speed 800 MHz ( PC2-6400 )
Latency Timings CL4 ( 4-4-4-12 )
Data Integrity Check Non-ECC
RAM Features Unbuffered
Supply Voltage 2 V
Module Configuration 256 x 64
Supply Voltage 2.2 V
Don't quite understand why it has 2 supply voltages.

Anyway current my cpu-z is showing this:
http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/731/2ram.jpg
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/9800/1ram.jpg

So i need to get to 4-4-4-12 presumably. Went to look in the bios and found a part where i could change my ram timings so i should just change them to 4-4-4-12 and don't touch anything else like the voltage or?

Thanks

Oli

Snakedoc
18-07-10, 17:20
Just so you know, no competitor links please. :)

http://forums.aria.co.uk/faq.php

AaronWHUFC
18-07-10, 17:23
You set the RAM timings and voltage, the options are all in the BIOS.

Oli356
18-07-10, 17:26
Just so you know, no competitor links please. :)

http://forums.aria.co.uk/faq.php
Oops, why i did that i do not know!

Let me go fiddle again in the BIOS as its not like just 4 numbers where i can put 4-4-4-12 and then What do you want your voltage to be?

ta

Snakedoc
18-07-10, 17:30
Lol no worries, the filters removed it anyway. I, for sec thought you were a new member. I probably would have been less patronising had I realised. :D

AaronWHUFC
18-07-10, 17:30
Oops, why i did that i do not know!

Let me go fiddle again in the BIOS as its not like just 4 numbers where i can put 4-4-4-12 and then What do you want your voltage to be?

ta

You just replace your current 5-5-5-18 with 4-4-4-12.

The DRAM voltage is 2V as per the specs.

Oli356
18-07-10, 17:41
Lol no worries, the filters removed it anyway. I, for sec thought you were a new member. I probably would have been less patronising had I realised. :D
Hehe, rules are the same obviously everywhere! Just slipped the brain.. Everything does when i get these BSOD's. Built system in September, had a RMA of my RAM and got brand new sticks, had at-least 3 other times of just getting BSOD's. Never got to the bottom of it.. one MS guy on a forum after doing dump analyses says it could be the drivers (my netgear wireless adaptor ones, but im on wired now so not got them)

And i've done about 11 reinstalls of W7 on the pc already! so not very happy with the thing lol

Well i saw here that it was 1.9 something
http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/9317/originalram.jpg

Made it 4-4-4-12
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/2964/44412.jpg

And from here i made it to 2v
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/8496/68847205.jpg

Booted up had a BSOD restarted and here i am.. so if thats aright i better go take out a stick, put it in slot 1 do a memtest for ages, then put stick number 2 in slot 1. Can't remember how many passes or runs its meant to do. 10?

Oli356
18-07-10, 18:25
Can't even do a memtest as it says unexpected interrupt and stops.
Great

Snakedoc
18-07-10, 19:21
Do, not overclocked at all then? If the RAM wont run at stock settings I suggest seeing if it's still in warranty.

Oli356
18-07-10, 19:24
Do, not overclocked at all then? If the RAM wont run at stock settings I suggest seeing if it's still in warranty.
Not even sure how so no.. Just made it to the 4-4-4-12 and 2V like it says.. i'm on pc currently now..

Would help if i could do a memtest but its not working so. But i've already got new RAM once so i don't see how it could go faulty again by being on 5-5-5-16 1.8v or whatever it was on

Snakedoc
18-07-10, 19:28
If you are setting to RAM to it's rated setting and can't run Memtest on it, it does suggest a fault. Perhaps your Mobo is the cause. Do you have a friend nearby you can test the RAM in his machine?

Oli356
18-07-10, 19:32
Just looked, got my new ram 4 months ago.

Tried running it on the bios default settings. Can't see it making a difference that i only have one stick of ram in and not 2.

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/7290/failqb.jpg
Memtest problem


I can use my old computer to test the RAM. So just try and do a memorytest on that machine? I can just take out the 1 stick of 2GB RAM which is in that machine and maybe put it in this one.. The thing is i can go days sometimes without getting a BSOD its weird though like today i've had 8.

Snakedoc
18-07-10, 19:35
Well indeed if the RAM is the same sort. Have you tried the "Auto" settings?

Oli356
18-07-10, 19:36
The auto was what i have been on until today, i've made it the default settings 4-4-4-12 2V to see if that could of been the cause.

Auto being the 5-5-5-16 1.8V

mark22
18-07-10, 19:45
It looks like you're running quite hot for idle temps there. Might be causing issues?

Oli356
18-07-10, 19:49
42c currently reporting in HWmonitor same with coretemp.

mark22
18-07-10, 19:53
Oh right, that sounds better,

Oli356
18-07-10, 20:03
Had higher in the past and no problems so.

Think ill go dig out my old pc after top gear and throw in a stick to test

though what makes me then wonder is why im getting random errors in windows [quote]the procedure entry point rtlansistringtounicodestring could not be located in the dynamic link libary ntdll.dll[/code] preventing me from loading chrome, msn and maybe a few other things.. skype etc
So i will need a OS reinstall again i guess

marsey99
18-07-10, 20:17
are they not 4s 12 on 2.2v?

Oli356
18-07-10, 20:19
pardon?

4s 12 on 2.2v? what :p

marsey99
18-07-10, 20:35
4-4-4 12 on 2.2v

i know what the eep says but im a tad confused by it saying this in the op

Supply Voltage 2.2 V

Oli356
18-07-10, 20:43
Oh right yer

Well product name has 2v in it aswell as one bit of description so mm

marsey99
18-07-10, 20:56
hmmm :|

i would try setting it to 2.1v first so the power management screen shows they are getting at least the 2.0v after that im not sure tbh, maybe chipset/imc setting or limitations.

which board and cpu are you running?

mark22
18-07-10, 21:00
As above, have you got imc or equivalent on auto? It probably needs a bit more juice.

Oli356
18-07-10, 21:05
As i'm sure you have figured out i'm no good at this stuff so im not to sure! Ill look in a minute see if i can see anything about that.

Ill also set to 2.1V,

Gigabyte MA790x-UD3p and the AMD 955 BE @ stock

Oli356
18-07-10, 22:01
Not to sure what to do now..
Got RAM Stick 2 to work on my other pc - not changed any bios settings on this pc.
Not sure if RAM Stick 2 lets memtest run on the main pc as i only tried with RAM stick 1 in.

So i will leave RAM Stick 2 do memtest over night and see the outcome in the morning and let my PC run to see if any BSOD's appear over night.

Then i will be swapping RAM sticks in the PC to see if RAM stick 1 has errors on old pc and see if RAM Stick 2 works on memtest on main pc

Hope that makes some sense

EDIT; 1 hour 10minutes into the memtest and it hasn't even passed or failed one yet!

Oli356
19-07-10, 14:15
Well i've figured out one problem atleast. Not to sure if any more are around..

The one stick of RAM which wasn't running the memtest, also failed with 1983 fails within 30seconds on my old computer so i have just set up an RMA now. So i'll be using a 2GB stick from my old machine while that gets proceed so i can atleast use the machine.

I'll also do a reinstall of windows to hopefuly resolve a few other problems.

The weird thing is i was using that faulty stick for a few hours last night without any BSOD's.

mark22
19-07-10, 16:46
Good to see you're getting there, some new ram and some more testing should hopefully do the trick.

Snakedoc
19-07-10, 16:48
So my suggestion from 21 hours ago was correct? I am shocked :D

Oli356
19-07-10, 16:54
Good to see you're getting there, some new ram and some more testing should hopefully do the trick.
Yer, well hopefuly no problems with this old RAM in. I put the voltage back to auto and the timings as well as i have no clue what its meant to be at..

So my suggestion from 21 hours ago was correct? I am shocked :D
Yes :thumb:

I either have really bad luck as i will be getting my 3rd set of RAM in less then a year! Or my mobo is destroying it! :rolleyes:

Quick Q, obvious but not to sure. If i reinstall windows and when im in the setup if i format the current W7 parition and leave the other 2 alone and then just install to the formatted old OS partition will everything be ok?
Like the other partition files have NO chance of going missing etc? Got the main things backed up anyway

EDIT: Umm think im just going to delete all the partitions actually.. and start over AGAIN. Need to go and try find my GTA/Just cause 2 game saves then, probably c/users/oli/my doc/

mark22
19-07-10, 16:57
That will work fine as long as you have nothing important on the windows partition, reinstalling won't touch the others.

Oli356
20-07-10, 12:15
All went fine, just got iTunes set up. Computer went extremely slowly using 70-80% of RAM usage when doing it. Importing 1k+ songs and it organising them into folders..had a few crashes but was ok.. thank god i had a massive clear out of songs and went from 4k to 1k ;)

iTunes downloads are so slow :( 1MB/s-2.5MB/s on 50meg broadband =/

They should receive RAM today or tomorrow so hopefully can have new RAM by early next week if not Friday this week :D

ty for help

Oli356
23-07-10, 11:44
Ok RAM received.

So if i make the timings to the
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/2964/44412.jpg
4-4-4-12 like they should be (product description)

and then the voltage to +200 so its 2V ish or 0.300 so its 2.1? http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/8496/68847205.jpg

On the RAM it says 2V so.