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Umar
28-05-10, 21:12
Took these the other day with my cheap Point and Shoot. Quick touch up with Photoshop. Feedback appretiated :)

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4332953/DSCF1516E129.png

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4332953/DSCF1510Eb1216.png

Cheers

Umar

Faz
28-05-10, 22:27
I like them!! What "cheap" camera is this!! ? ? They look very good quality!

Umar
28-05-10, 22:30
I like them!! What "cheap" camera is this!! ? ? They look very good quality!

Thanks Faz :) It's a 5MP Fujifilm F470 PnS. Took a lot of patience haha

Umar

Pancake
28-05-10, 22:47
Very nice, mind if i make one into a wallpaper?

mac124
28-05-10, 23:02
Nice pics indeed Umar, just goes to show what a half decent camera and a bit of post production can do :clap

You don't necessarily need 10's of millions of pixels to take a good pic.

Mr. Grapes
29-05-10, 00:06
Fuji's are a lot better than most people give them credit for.

both shots are really crisp. in the first one, what did you do in PP? the contrast and sharpness look spot on. nice variation in the lighting too. if some of the leaves weren't yellowing/browning it would be perfect.

love the macro and colours on the second :)

Umar
29-05-10, 00:11
Very nice, mind if i make one into a wallpaper?

Not at all :) I can link to a very high res one if you want?


Nice pics indeed Umar, just goes to show what a half decent camera and a bit of post production can do :clap

You don't necessarily need 10's of millions of pixels to take a good pic.

I think you're right. This point and shoot is actually the best camera I've ever owned, so it really is a luxury for me. I can't imagine what I'd do if I got a DSLR. Probably die :D

Umar

Koolpc
29-05-10, 00:12
Supers pics! Really like them a lot.

Mr. Grapes
29-05-10, 00:17
It's been said time and time again, anything over anything over 5-6 MP is wasted unless you're printing @ > A3 size. even then, good optics are more important...

mac124
29-05-10, 00:20
I think you're right. This point and shoot is actually the best camera I've ever owned, so it really is a luxury for me. I can't imagine what I'd do if I got a DSLR. Probably die :D

Umar

Depends what you want to do, if you like the macro type stuff stick with what you got mate, it obviously works well for you.

Me i like more wild life type photography so i need more powerful lenses which compacts / bridge cameras aren't as suited for, one of the reasons i went to DSLR.

I started with my old mans Fuji bridge camera and it was all down hill from there, i am currently saving for a 100-400mm lense, which aint cheap so stick to your little camera as DSLR's get expensive lol.

coiler
29-05-10, 00:21
what photoshop settings did you apply?

Umar
29-05-10, 00:30
Fuji's are a lot better than most people give them credit for.

both shots are really crisp. in the first one, what did you do in PP? the contrast and sharpness look spot on. nice variation in the lighting too. if some of the leaves weren't yellowing/browning it would be perfect.

love the macro and colours on the second :)


It's been said time and time again, anything over anything over 5-6 MP is wasted unless you're printing @ > A3 size. even then, good optics are more important...

Thanks Mr Grapes, I didn't see your reply in between there! Both pictures are completely real all I did was adjust the contrast/brightness and colour balance. But I did it to varying degrees to different parts of the image to highlight foreground items and darken background bits. Quite a lot of them are subtle changes.

Col
29-05-10, 00:39
I use a FujiFilm FinePix A825, and have said it before: You don't need a big, expensive camera to take good photos. All you need is the right opportunity, a keen eye, and a steady hand. And a camera, obviously.

Like so:

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs232.snc1/7930_158793735700_610780700_4191615_1219706_n.jpg

No Photoshopping applied at all.

mac124
29-05-10, 00:40
It's been said time and time again, anything over anything over 5-6 MP is wasted unless you're printing @ > A3 size. even then, good optics are more important...

True enough if using the whole pic but more pixels are useful if doing some heavy cropping if, for example, the subject is quite far away and only fill half the frame.

Mr. Grapes
29-05-10, 00:47
True enough if using the whole pic but more pixels are useful if doing some heavy cropping if, for example, the subject is quite far away and only fill half the frame.
unless the MP increase is at the expense of higher sensor noise, in which case cropping will highlight the noise... especially true in P&S's with fingernail sized sensors pushing 10-13 MP...
(does not necessarily apply to APS-C or above sized sensors natch...)

mac124
29-05-10, 01:09
Again what you say is very true but then you have to look at what the user is trying to use the camera for, as a dslr user, rightly or wrongly, i tend to "think" with dslr in mind, its been quite some time since i used a true point and shoot and then it was quite a cheap one.

Mr. Grapes
29-05-10, 01:41
I am considering a P&S for when i don't have the DSLR, (whic is most of the time) but i think the things that annoyed me about my bridge camera (slow startup time, lag etc) would probably wind me up even more now...

but all i was saying is that MP isn't the be all and end all of picture quality that most people believe. not saying that more MP's aren't great, just sometimes not the benefit it seems if that's the only thing you consider.

at the end of the day, the camera is just a tool, and a picture is not just about image quality. it's the device behind the lens that makes the biggest difference, and until that's fully sorted, no amount of pixels is going to make me take a better picture, only practice and criticism will

callumburns
29-05-10, 03:56
very very nice pictures mate :D, what model of camera did you use i think i might buy one myself :)

mac124
29-05-10, 09:08
I am considering a P&S for when i don't have the DSLR, (whic is most of the time) but i think the things that annoyed me about my bridge camera (slow startup time, lag etc) would probably wind me up even more now...

but all i was saying is that MP isn't the be all and end all of picture quality that most people believe. not saying that more MP's aren't great, just sometimes not the benefit it seems if that's the only thing you consider.

at the end of the day, the camera is just a tool, and a picture is not just about image quality. it's the device behind the lens that makes the biggest difference, and until that's fully sorted, no amount of pixels is going to make me take a better picture, only practice and criticism will

Yeah i'm not sure i could go back to a point and click, other than, and this is going to sound daft, maybe a half decent camera phone for things like a lads night out when i wouldn't dream of taking my DSLR. For more serious pictures i would have to have a very VERY good point and click. That said from Umars pictures they seem to have come a long way since my old one. A point and click would be handy to have in the glove box on the car i suppose or if its a real tiny one to keep on you at all times for those moments when you think "oh thats a great kodak moment"

My DSLR is really a beginners one (EOS1000D) and is "only" 10MP and the first real upgrade i am going to make is some good L glass. It takes a reasonable picture with the cheap glass i have so i am hoping it will allow me to improve with a better lense. I have no intentions of swapping out the body for quite some time yet, when (if?) i do i no doubt will get something with more pixels, i'll probably have no choice in that tbh. I am still playing around with the semi auto settings and for what i use it for i think fully manual is probably not really an option for quite some time, wild life rarely gives you the luxury of messing with settings whilst taking several pictures.

Avatar
29-05-10, 09:59
Took these the other day with my cheap Point and Shoot. Quick touch up with Photoshop. Feedback appretiated :)

Cheers

Umar

I like them a lot umar, thanks for sharing those.:thumb::p

What I like is the framing and focusing of the plants (is the first one a strawberry or a geranium?).

Your photos show what I've always believed: that the camera is a tool (like a paint brush for a painter) and the outcome depends on the person using it.;)

Avatar
29-05-10, 10:09
Depends what you want to do, if you like the macro type stuff stick with what you got mate, it obviously works well for you.

Me i like more wild life type photography so i need more powerful lenses which compacts / bridge cameras aren't as suited for, one of the reasons i went to DSLR.

I started with my old mans Fuji bridge camera and it was all down hill from there, i am currently saving for a 100-400mm lense, which aint cheap so stick to your little camera as DSLR's get expensive lol.

I agree that for shots like wild life a DSLR is very desirable as it allows one to change lenses and capture the action from a distance.:thumb::p

In fact I often wish I had a 400mm lens for taking wild life shots (who knows, this wish may come true one day).

The P&S camera I have (Vivitar vivicam 6330s) is very good generally, but even with its 3x optical zoom I feel restricted when taking long distance shots.:(

Umar
29-05-10, 12:20
I like them a lot umar, thanks for sharing those.:thumb::p

What I like is the framing and focusing of the plants (is the first one a strawberry or a geranium?).

Your photos show what I've always believed: that the camera is a tool (like a paint brush for a painter) and the outcome depends on the person using it.;)

Thanks for all the feedback everyone! :) I have some more that I've just uploaded. The themes are a little different though ...

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4332953/DSCF1155E1216.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4332953/DSCF1375E1216.jpg

Avatar
29-05-10, 13:04
Thanks for all the feedback everyone! :) I have some more that I've just uploaded. The themes are a little different though ...



Yes, I like those too. :p

What I like is the composition which makes an otherwise uninteresting subject (in my opinion) very interesting and pleasant to look at. :)

Deserving to be in a photo gallery.:thumb:

mac124
29-05-10, 13:26
Some more good shots Umar keep it up mate :thumb:, my only minor critisism (and it really is nit picking) is your partial reflection on the flying lady but that would be difficult to avoid.

I take it you went to a wedding or did you just happen across one??

Umar
29-05-10, 14:24
Yes, I like those too. :p

What I like is the composition which makes an otherwise uninteresting subject (in my opinion) very interesting and pleasant to look at. :)

Deserving to be in a photo gallery.:thumb:

Thanks again, I've not actually uploaded any of my stuff before, I think I might start if people like it haha.


Some more good shots Umar keep it up mate :thumb:, my only minor critisism (and it really is nit picking) is your partial reflection on the flying lady but that would be difficult to avoid.

I take it you went to a wedding or did you just happen across one??

Thanks mac :) yeah that really annoyed me too but there was no way to get around in short of covering myself in tinfoil :D. You can see the reflection of the surroundings in the second image too, only just noticed that! Yeah it was my cousins wedding a few weeks ago. I wanted to take avantage of what a sunny day it was as the higher light levels reduces noise.

Umar

Faz
29-05-10, 15:11
Not at all :) I can link to a very high res one if you want?


Yeah yeah yeaaaah!! 1680x1050 for me!! Prefer the first as well.

Thankyouuuu !! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

Umar
29-05-10, 16:47
Yeah yeah yeaaaah!! 1680x1050 for me!! Prefer the first as well.

Thankyouuuu !! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4332953/DSCF1516E.png

There you go mate :) 2816x2112 8.8mb PNG. Enjoy ;)

oxy
29-05-10, 19:25
Fuji's are a lot better than most people give them credit for.

both shots are really crisp. in the first one, what did you do in PP? the contrast and sharpness look spot on. nice variation in the lighting too. if some of the leaves weren't yellowing/browning it would be perfect.

love the macro and colours on the second :)

I like the yellow/brown leaves, makes it more interesting.

AaronWHUFC
29-05-10, 20:13
Very nice pictures!

I need to get myself off the computer and out there!:(

Smifis
30-05-10, 12:33
Fujifilm = Ace :)

Umar
30-05-10, 15:20
Last one's now, I promise!

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4332953/DSCF1489E1216.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4332953/DSCF0551E1216.jpg

Col
30-05-10, 17:45
That last one is awesome! But I don't know why!

Mr. Grapes
01-06-10, 11:17
That last one is awesome! But I don't know why!

me too.

the hearts shot, I've done an almost identical one, playing with depth of field at a wedding...
:thumb: