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Just reading google news and came across the question "should parents be allowed to smack their children" :spank
I strongly believe as a parent of two that smacking is a perfectly normal and effective form of discipline as long as its used sparingly and only ever as a last resort I don't condone child abuse in any form but children today need a spanking more than ever.
It's funny how since all the discipline has been taken out of kids lifes due to the constant nagging of the leftist nanny state that society has taken a sharp turn for the worst.
GentleGiant
27-04-10, 15:02
Hi mdnw; you always hear "experts" and Gordon & Co spouting about childrens "Rights", but all rights MUST be balanced with responsibilities; so it is strange you never hear them utter a word about them.
I smacked my son on the bottom once, it was lighter than when play fighting with him, but he knew it was a "smack" and screamed blue murder.
Not that he could feel anything through his nappy!!!
That fixed the problem (until he discovered girls), and I never needed to do it again.
wonderlust
27-04-10, 15:39
Coming from a generation before the nanny state, I have one thing to say....
Never did me any harm
Coming from a generation before the nanny state, I have one thing to say....
Never did me any harm
Agreed. And TBH it's not done my kids any harm... also helps there locked in there bedroom and i have call baring on the phone to child line :eek:
Agreed. And TBH it's not done my kids any harm... also helps there locked in there bedroom and i have call baring on the phone to child line :eek:
always helps (: dont forget to soundproof the room :D
InvaderGIR
27-04-10, 16:37
Agreed. And TBH it's not done my kids any harm... also helps there locked in there bedroom and i have call baring on the phone to child line :eek:
:lol:
I have no problem with it either. I was brought up with it and a cane (:eek:), you soon learn not to be a naughty little blighter. ;)
George Agdgdgwngo
27-04-10, 16:46
Smackings in Africa are comon place, it does no harm to us.
Our Children mustbe learnings resepcts.
I'm glad to see that there are still some non pc even minded people out there.
it was always the threat of being smacked that made me learn not to put my dads ties in the toilet anymore :D
Helios1234
29-04-10, 01:21
Totally agree with what's been said. A good smacking should be a good lesson teaching kids discipline even if it's just to scare them. I hate seeing parents who don't have the guts to discipline their children and then complain about them.
Completely agree with what's been said so far, especially the bit about responsibility and the fact that actions have concequences.. Not for one moment, do I think it should be something that is prolonged pain for a child, but a quick smack is enough for a kid to learn the lesson..
Its interesting though - look at the generation that is around the 12-15 agegroup now. I'm by no means tarring them all with the same brush, as there are a lot of good kids, including a few on here.. But 10 years ago, kids of that age would never have been so lippy or disrespectful towards adults and people in authority.. There would have been one or two, but it seems to be much more the norm now - and I think that lack of concequence has a lot to do with that..
As mentioned already. Never did me any harm.
Smackings in Africa are comon place, it does no harm to us.
Our Children mustbe learnings resepcts.
^^^ This was me.
:popcorn:
EDIT: Dammit Tystar/Coiler/whover the **** it was :P
Completely agree with what's been said so far, especially the bit about responsibility and the fact that actions have concequences.. Not for one moment, do I think it should be something that is prolonged pain for a child, but a quick smack is enough for a kid to learn the lesson..
Its interesting though - look at the generation that is around the 12-15 agegroup now. I'm by no means tarring them all with the same brush, as there are a lot of good kids, including a few on here.. But 10 years ago, kids of that age would never have been so lippy or disrespectful towards adults and people in authority.. There would have been one or two, but it seems to be much more the norm now - and I think that lack of concequence has a lot to do with that..
Exactly what I was going to post, I would have never talked to an adult the way some of these kids talk to their mothers etc.
Not had to use smacking but I fully agree that sometimes they just need to know when enough is enough.
As said before, never did me any harm.......I kinda like it :D
Discipline is a good thing if used in moderation and a caring way. Never did me any harm. It should be left to the parents to decide but obviously should be taken to extremes.
I think i got smacked all of three times growing up, oh and i had a wellie/welly thrown at me.
Just my dad raising his hand to warn of an impending smack was enough for me to flee up the garden.
I agree that children need to be disciplined and smacking is an integral part of that, however its a very fine line between disciplinarian and child abuser.
Its strange but it seems to me its got really bad since labour has been in power just think about it for a moment:idea:
Ever since the "politically correct" "do gooders" started to be listened to ..................
After all it is now accepted for politicians to be "economical with the truth" or to have a "different public face" (bigoted?? incident)
Ironic isnt it... The 'politically correct' 'do gooders' have conceivably had a hand in fuelling gang culture, troubles and lack of respect that go on in our country now..
I'm 33 and my mother is 59 she still gives me a slap if i swear in front of her lol
Broadsword1976
29-04-10, 12:21
I can't see the profound lack of discipline in children today being linked specifically to a political party, more just the progression of society in general and, like it or not, technology and modern gaming culture too. People let TVs and video games babysit their kids (I remember a story about some toddler under 3 playing Goldeneye on the N64, giggling and heat-shotting away - as his parents looked proudly.) Couple that with a society that's been systematically scared off taking punitive measures when their children step over that line by Liberal Left and Right Wing media both.
I think smacking Works. -I'd like to think it did for me.
You only do it the once, but you mean it and they know you mean it.
I'm glad that the authorities and systems are there to protect the UK's kids because there are some horrible stories and very lonely,scared children out there.
But Smacking is not abuse.
I can't see the profound lack of discipline in children today being linked specifically to a political party, more just the progression of society in general and, like it or not, technology and modern gaming culture too. People let TVs and video games babysit their kids (I remember a story about some toddler under 3 playing Goldeneye on the N64, giggling and heat-shotting away - as his parents looked proudly.) Couple that with a society that's been systematically scared off taking punitive measures when their children step over that line by Liberal Left and Right Wing media both.
I think smacking Works. -I'd like to think it did for me.
You only do it the once, but you mean it and they know you mean it.
I'm glad that the authorities and systems are there to protect the UK's kids because there are some horrible stories and very lonely,scared children out there.
But Smacking is not abuse.
So you do agree at least in part that the left have a lot to answer for
Broadsword1976
29-04-10, 12:37
yeah - though I expect the same would have happened under a Tory Govt.
callumburns
29-04-10, 12:43
my gran used to smack me about with a slipper :lol: any similarities to anyone else? :p
I blame the lack of respect / discipline from most kids nowadays down to the fact corporal punishment was banned in schools circa mid eighties.
Kids that were starting secondary school then have basically NEVER had any kind of discipline, and now they are breeding and as they were never disciplined they have no idea how to control their brats so said brats run amok.
Just look around your local super market and see the number of parents swearing at their kids. How is that kid going to grow up? Thinking that telling some one to STFU is a way of life?
As said before not ALL kids / parents today are like this, but there seems to be more and more out there.
Just my 2p.
I blame the lack of respect / discipline from most kids nowadays down to the fact corporal punishment was banned in schools circa mid eighties.
Kids that were starting secondary school then have basically NEVER had any kind of discipline, and now they are breeding and as they were never disciplined they have no idea how to control their brats so said brats run amok.
Just look around your local super market and see the number of parents swearing at their kids. How is that kid going to grow up? Thinking that telling some one to STFU is a way of life?
As said before not ALL kids / parents today are like this, but there seems to be more and more out there.
Just my 2p.
I think thats a very valid point - although smacking was still 'allowed' in the home then.. But I think its definitely a factor..
I'm 33 and my mother is 59 she still gives me a slap if i swear in front of her lol
Almost identical here although I'm 34 :(
I still watch what i say and do in front of her. Although i get away with more than i did when i was 15 lol
So most of us agree that the do gooder brigade often times don't actually good?
I never sweared infront of my parents, ever.
Mighty_Red
30-04-10, 10:04
Problem is that it has become such a taboo subject nowadays. If you stand up for this right then you are instantly seen as a monster who abuses their children.
We are not talking about savage beatings that leave children black and blue (that is assault), we are talking about the odd small smack, or clip round the ear which acts as a deterrent.
Talking should always be the first option, but there has to be a reasonable punishment to back it up. A constant stream of expletives won't help either if it is used too often. In times gone by, every kid would be scared of what their dad would do if they done something wrong.
I am not yet a parent, so I won't really know just how hard it is to handle them until it happens. I do know that if parents are unfairly stigmatised because they try to discipline their children early on, then it makes the job 10 times worse.
GentleGiant
01-05-10, 10:39
Problem is that it has become such a taboo subject nowadays. If you stand up for this right then you are instantly seen as a monster who abuses their children.
We are not talking about savage beatings that leave children black and blue (that is assault), we are talking about the odd small smack, or clip round the ear which acts as a deterrent.
Talking should always be the first option, but there has to be a reasonable punishment to back it up. A constant stream of expletives won't help either if it is used too often. In times gone by, every kid would be scared of what their dad would do if they done something wrong.
I am not yet a parent, so I won't really know just how hard it is to handle them until it happens. I do know that if parents are unfairly stigmatised because they try to discipline their children early on, then it makes the job 10 times worse.
This is exactly the reason I walked out of the "Early Years Foundation" degree course.
The "experts" in charge of childcare policy are so blinkered, the more badly children behave, the more "freedom" the "experts" insist they need to become better human beings.
Heinlein was right; if a puppy pees on the floor, you rub its nose in it.
I agree with smacking..
I am 42 & even know my mum isnt scared to give me a clip round the ear if i am out of place. She always says "you will never be to big to give you a clip round the ear i will stand on a box if i have to".
All i can say is it never harmed me i never ever got into trouble & never have. It taught me values of having a family & if you grow up proply & work hard & treat people with repect you can go a long way.. I did this with my 3 daughters & 2 of them are sucessful & my other daughter is 8 & doing very well..
It frightens me when you see parents of today who swear at there children or just shout at them or even do absolutly nothing. It makes you think what kind of country we will have in 20 years time . Does it make you want to see yourself at 70 or 80 years old & going down the street & what kind of abuse you mite get then?
The sooner we bring back disapline in school's & scrap the anti smacking stuff i think the better kids will respect others & the crime rate & valdalisum will come down ..
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