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Ok so I got my computer parts from aria after a delay.
I started putting them together, power supply went in fine so did the CPU and the RAM. The motherboard fitted on in the case nicely and this is when I started to get problems :(.
The first this is wiring my case to the motherboard. The motherboard only seems to have one pin for the each of the case controls BUT my case seems to require two. E.g reset switch, motherboard only have one pin, the case wire seems to take 2.
Second I can't connect up my power supply to my motherboard. The motherboard says it needs a ATX power connector BUT my power supply doesn't seem to have anything that will attach up to it. As i'm new too this it might mean I have the wrong type of power box. I just went with the one that was recommend to me, so I don't really no :(.
Does this mean I have to get a new case and a new power supply or can I adapt the ones I've got now to save some money. If I do have to buy new things can you suggest any that will work with my motherboard? In the mean time I'm going ahead and installing the CD/DVD drive/graphics card and hard drive.
Thanks in advance. :)
Can you show us with motherboard and PSU you've bought please? :)
Sames ones as in my other thread its a
Asrock 7751945G2 Socket 775 (quick code #23722)
Akasa 400w paxpower ATX2.2 PSU (quick code #24663)
arrr that could be it come to think of it. The motherboard might be the old type of ATX, not ATX2.2?
Check the psu connector closely it should (most do nowadays anyway) have a 4 way connector on one end of the main power connector that is removable for the older style 20 way power connectors on some motherboards.
OK had a quick look at the manual from the Asrock website and i think i see where the confusion is, the manual shows a single pin for the switches but you need to put the switch connector over the corresponding pin and the one next to it marked \"GND\".
HTH 8)
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OK had a quick look at the manual from the Asrock website and i think i see where the confusion is, the manual shows a single pin for the switches but you need to put the switch connector over the corresponding pin and the one next to it marked \"GND\".
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Aye...
Errrr I can assure you the psu has nothing that will attach up to the motherboard, It has something that looks like it will but there are way to may pin for that on the mother board. Also the motherboard seems to have two power in slots. A 4 pin and a 20 pin, BUT my power supply has a 24 pin (one seems to be a dummy so 23 pin) and a 6 pin. :?
Thanks for the case advice I feel like a fool :lol:, Does my \"power switch\" go in to PWRBTN# and the GND next to it? :( And how do I know if I have them the right way around :(.
The 24 pin connector on your PSU will more than likely have 4 pins at the end that come off from the other 24. That's how the last few PSU's I've had work.
yeah, 99% of mine have been exactly that but on the last one I got it had an adaptor to convert the 24pins into a 20pin connector. Either way they should have provided a way to make it into a 20pin.
[quote:c7bb681158=\"Altrozero\"]Thanks for the case advice I feel like a fool :lol:, Does my \"power switch\" go in to PWRBTN# and the GND next to it? :( And how do I know if I have them the right way around :(.[/quote:c7bb681158]
Yup you got it and it doesn't matter which way round the switch connections go. If you get the led ones the wrong way round the just wont light up so swap them around, you wont do any damage.
As to the psu i'd be suprised if the last 4 connections weren't removable but if they arent you can get an adapter to go from 24 way to 20way. that way if you change motherboard in the future your psu should be compatible, i am suprised the one you have still only uses 20way tbh.
Thanks alot everyone you were right it does come apart :oops:. Now just to add to the problem it came apart into two things but because they are part of the same wire they won't stretch far enough for them both to be plug in :lol:. I think I'm going to have to separate them with a knife 8|.
:lol: I'll cry if the PC doesn't work in the end after all the problems I've had :lol:
NEW PROBLEM :'(
Ok nither my CD/DVD drive or my hard drive came with any cables I guessed that this would be supplied with the motherboard. The only wire I have for my CD drive is the ribbon but I'm told I need more than that and there is nothing for my hard drive at all. :shock: is this right or should they have come with something :shock:
[quote:cc8b84d082=\"Altrozero\"]Thanks alot everyone you were right it does come apart :oops:. Now just to add to the problem it came apart into two things but because they are part of the same wire they won't stretch far enough for them both to be plug in :lol:. I think I'm going to have to separate them with a knife 8|.
:lol: I'll cry if the PC doesn't work in the end after all the problems I've had :lol:[/quote:cc8b84d082]
Dont plug the 4 way bit that came off of the main connector, there should be another 4 way square connector on a seperate cable.
Motherboards normally come with SOME cables an ide and 1 or 2 sata cables if it didn't then you will need to purchse them seperately and Asrock are being cheapskates. The only other cable (apart from power) that connects to the cd/dvd drive is audio so you can play direct from cds this isn't needed to get it working.
Right last problem I promise. Everything seems ready I've plugged it in and there is a slight whisle. I turn the computer on and after 3 second it turns it's self off :lol:
I take it this could be virtually anything :lol:
Mighty_Jah
03-03-07, 19:12
As you say mate it could be anything....at the mo, this maybe a shot in the dark but, sometimes a whistling sound can be down to an ill seated graphics card, or CPU for that matter, try re-seating both plus your Ram and give it another whirl..!
Regards Mighty... :wink:
I've taken them all out and put them all back in and nothing.
It must be a faulty part, when taking my heat sink of the CPU I noticed a blue substance had formed is this normal??
Blue usually indicates burning :(
The high-pitched shrill could be your graphics card trying to tell you it needs more power. My 6800GX frightened the life out of me when I first powered it up without the molex connector in :0
Oh crap does that mean I need a new CPU?? :shock:
And I am pretty sure the sound is coming from the power supply.
[quote:472af18bc0=\"Altrozero\"]Oh crap does that mean I need a new CPU?? :shock:
And I am pretty sure the sound is coming from the power supply.[/quote:472af18bc0]
Your CPU may still be ok, first thing to try is a different PSU, or check that the motherboard is not shorted.
Ok apparently that blue stuff is a protective plastic layer. I've taken it off like I was told to and now the computer starts up stays on for 1 minute before turning off. :shock: There is still nothing on the screen :shock:
Powering down after a certain amount of time is generally self preservation mode for some reason, does the pc shut down completely? As your not getting anything on the screen you can't check the tempertures.
When you assembled it did you fit the little spacers that came with the case? Usueally a goldy / brassy colour. Did you check you only fitted the necessary ones by lining the motherboard up with the holes in the mounting plate in the case?
Sounds like a silly question and NOI but it might be easily overlooked by someone new to building pc's. Also make sure you have all the necessary power connectors plugged into the motherboard and graphics card (as mentioned before)
I think your right. If I start it back up straight away it turns off quicker but if I give it ten mins it goes back to the way it was before. :?, yeah I did fit those things if you mean the things like washers.
I get nothing on the screen and I've tried it in both of the monitor slots.
I think I might take the CPU out and have a look at it. :?
They are a bit bigger than washers usually 5mm to 10mm long.
You could remove the motherboard from the case (and anything else if needed) and power it up outside the case. If it powers up like this then you know something on the motherboard is shorting out on the case somewhere. If it still doesn't power up then i am afraid you will need to start swapping things out if you are sure everything is plugged in ok.
Yeah those things were already on the case so there is no problem there. Yeah I build it outside the case last night to check and it seemed the same.
Now a few questions am I right in thinking a computer can run without a graphics card as my computer already has a slot for the monitor? Second there are only two cables that go in to the hard drive, the data cable and the power cable? Third could it be the motherboard it's self?
I know it's not the ram, cd/dvd drive or hard drive. I don't think it's the graphics card which means it's either the motherboard or the CPU. I'm not sure which to try first and is there anyway of checking if the cpu without buying a new one? It's just £100 is alot to waste if it's not that. :oops:
At the last try literally 15 minutes ago the computer stayed on for 10 minutes 28 seconds before turning it self off. The temperature in the case is almost the same as outside the case, and it is a very cold day. I am still not getting a picture on screen :'(
Try booting it up with the bare minimum possible. So, leave in a CPU, 1 stick of RAM, use the onboard video card instead of the extra one, and a hard drive.
If it is stable like that, then start adding bits in one at a time, and eventually you will come across the problem part.
If it isnt stable, then you know you have definately narrowed it down to the CPU/Mobo/PSU.
Definately try it without your graphics card fitted, you may need to select an option in the bios to use that, this wouldn't explain why it switches off though but you might be able to see whats going on.
It does the same thing with out the graphics card.
So I think it must be either the motherboard or the cpu. and I have no idea which :? This could be an expensive mistake.
Have you reset the CMOS? Try looking in your mobo manual for the location of the CMOS jumper and move the jumper over the correct 2 pins for about 2 mins, ensuring the power lead is unplugged from the case. Replace the jumper when done, plug in and see if anything appears on the screen.
After that, I would use the onboard graphics first to see if anything appears on the screen. If you can see text starting to appear, hit the Delete button on your keyboard to enter the BIOS screen. Use the arrow keys, navigate to \"Load Optimised Defaults\" or \"Load Default Settings\" or whatever you see displayed. While in the BIOS, you could also take a look in \"Standard CMOS Features\" to see if all of your drives, HDD & CD etc, are showing up.
Restart the PC and see what happens.
Best of luck!
Still doesn't work :(. I think it might be the CPU :(
Sounds like your going to have to start swapping things out or sending stuff back.
Not a good introduction into building pc's :(
Ok I don't know if this is good or bad but the computer isn't turning off now but I still don't get a picture on screen :x I think it's the motherboard that's being a.... well you know... I think i'll try that first.
[quote:e05dd2b3ea=\"mac124\"]Not a good introduction into building pc's :([/quote:e05dd2b3ea]
nothing like a steep learning curve to get you into something! ;)
It was the CPU that was creating the problem :(
Have you got it sorted now then mate?
RMA the cpu if it is faulty.
To be honest I'm not sure if it was my fault or not :oops:.
Yep just installing Windows now :D.
Thanks everyone who helped I owe you all a lot ::oops:
Just happy to help, and good to hear is working now :D
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