AGP Graphics card

[Koolpc]

http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Graphics+Cards/ATI+AGP+Series/Gigabyte+ATI+Radeon+HD+4650+1024MB+DDR2+AGP+Graphi cs+Card+?productId=39302

Will that one play all modern PC games ok? Ta

[Ice Tea]

Didn't know they still made AGP cards and pretty amazed it has HDMI too :P

[Koolpc]

Didn't know they still made AGP cards and pretty amazed it has HDMI too :P

Thanks for your help! :rolleyes:

[AaronWHUFC]

What res are you gaming at?

[Iaink]

should do, the PCI-e version is about 80-90% as fast as a 9600gt (which is as fast as an 8800gts 320) so it should be okay, don't know the the AGP interface will bottleneck it though, and it also depends on the rest of teh system

[Ice Tea]

Thanks for your help! :rolleyes:

With that attitude i shant bother to post what i've just been researching for you. :rolleyes:

[Koolpc]

With that attitude i shant bother to post what i've just been researching for you. :rolleyes:

Lol. Why not post what you were researching instead of posting a non-helpful post in the first place!!? :rolleyes:

[Koolpc]

Mate has an athlon 3200, 3gig ram

[El Wayneo]

It will play all new games, on low/med at low enough res, 1440 x 900 etc, his Rig won't bottleneck it at all.

Edit: Although its a waste of £65.

Get him to sell off what he has and build an AMD AM3 x3 PC on the cheap and get a better PCI-E GPU for his cash.

[Koolpc]

Told him that but he wants to keep his present PC.

[Tolmandary]

It will run modern games, however bear in mind that because the bus speed of AGP is so much slower than PCI-X that 4650 will perform far worse than an effectively identical PCI-X version.

[ro888]

It's absolutely fine as long as you don't turn on AA, AF or set the resolution up to 1080P. The bandwidth of AGP should be more than enough for such card cos it isn't any bandwidth monster like HD4870x2

[ro888]

If you look back to the X850XT PE GDDR3 age (The last AGP from ATI probably), 37.76GB Bandwidth in comparing to HD4650 DDR2, 16GB Bandwidth. It should be a bottleneck. Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units

[Mr. Strawberry]

i have used that card before on my old P4 setup and it played crysis fine on the middle settings :D
and maxed COD4 but all that is at 1280x1024

[El Wayneo]

If you look back to the X850XT PE GDDR3 age (The last AGP from ATI probably), 37.76GB Bandwidth in comparing to HD4650 DDR2, 16GB Bandwidth. It should be a bottleneck. Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units

If you look at any Crossfire benchmarks that uses 2 x 8 lanes then you would see it doesn't impact performance on a HD4870 let alone this card.

I think the last AGP card was the HD4670 form ATi.

[Gunslinger]

this is always a problem, graphics cards are moving along and the socket revisions are being made far too early in many cases, AGP hand not been fully utilised yet they moved on to PCIe ... then along came PCIe 2.0 each time users are told to get the new bus type or version to be able to get the best out of games... if you want to just play games on your pc, buy a d*m games console :lol:

what they forget, is that a pc has many many different uses outside of gaming, and people simply do not want to be constantly changing the entire setup just to accommodate their latest over priced GPU ! especially if the current machine was based on expensive good quality and spec'd components in the first place.

Anyway... i diversify, tell your mate to look for one of these... HIS HD 4670 IceQ 1GB DDR3 Native HDMI DVI VGA Out AGP (Manufacturer No: H467Q1GHDAP) that will probably be the very last and fastest card for AGP

[RDRUNR]

Should be ok. But why not upgrade the motherboard to a PCIe one, keep the CPU (or find an faster old one) and go for a PCIe card?

[Gunslinger]

maybe everything else does what he needs, and windows is installed and tweaked how he likes and all the apps he wants are installed customised and setings how he likes them.... or maybe he can't afford to change 80% of the PC !

I know i just rebuilt mine, using the same CPU and switched to a PCIe GPU, but to be honest, i had most of the parts already so cost was minimal (new case and GPU and associated odds and sods)

I've just finished grabbing all the parts to rebuild my dads machine (actually replace it) utilising a number of bits i already had (case, PSU, Drives, HDD, floppy/card reader) and it's come to £340 so far for the remaining parts (just need a cordless mouse now)... so if a newer AGP GPU will do what he needs, then he'll be saving a fair bit