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JoeJones
01-04-10, 10:18
Just a heads up that rumours abound are that DDR2 and DDR3 prices are expected to take a hike in April despite already being increased these past couple of months.

NANYA reported that the markets have shown "much stength" over the past couple of months compared to the same period last year and as a result is raising contract prices...go figure.



Get your RAM sooner than later!

Gibbo
01-04-10, 10:47
Hi there

An example, 3 weeks ago 2GB 800MHz Modules were costing £21-£24 for us to buy for major 3rd or branded.

Now they are costing £33-£38 for the same thing just 3 weeks later with more price increases expected.

Memory is essentially gonna double from what it was a month ago essentially, especially on DDR3.

El Wayneo
01-04-10, 10:48
So 6GB of RAM is gonna cost near £200?

Gibbo
01-04-10, 11:02
So 6GB of RAM is gonna cost near £200?

Hi there

DDR3 is not as heavily affected, but wheras a month ago I was selling Patriot 6GB kits for around £85+VAT, they will most likely soon reach £150+VAT for the same kit.

4GB Kits were around £55+VAT, these will now be pushing beyond £80+VAT.

See it every year, it just happens at different times just how memory is, which is very volatile.

This will obviously have an affect on SSD's and Graphics as well because they all use RAM/NAND.

tystar
01-04-10, 11:07
Damn.....

Still need to get another 2gb ddr2 for my lappy :(

Gibbo
01-04-10, 11:17
Damn.....

Still need to get another 2gb ddr2 for my lappy :(

Hi m8

A month ago I was buying 2GB SO-Dimms for around £10, now they are above £16 and set to hit £20 soon supposedly, thats TRADE cost.

tystar
01-04-10, 11:19
I know i bought some last year and cost me something like £15 a stick. now it's £35 at best.

:(

Typical now i need some for myself.

Terbinator
01-04-10, 11:21
This thread
Now check the date ;)

tystar
01-04-10, 11:23
The ironic thing is the prices will be going up and have been for a while :(

Funlester
01-04-10, 11:25
Might sound a daft question but is this the same for laptop memory??
As I need to get some 2GB DDR2 stuff for my notebook.

Gibbo
01-04-10, 11:35
Might sound a daft question but is this the same for laptop memory??
As I need to get some 2GB DDR2 stuff for my notebook.

Hi there

Yep, DDR2 worse effected, then DDR3.

Old DDR has not been affected so bad.

El Wayneo
01-04-10, 11:35
Well i suppose it was impossibly cheap for such alongtime.

Will have to adjust my prices slightly then.

Umar
01-04-10, 11:38
Hi m8

A month ago I was buying 2GB SO-Dimms for around £10, now they are above £16 and set to hit £20 soon supposedly, thats TRADE cost.

I rather regret selling my 2x1GB DDR2 Laptop ram for £8 last year now ...:knock:

JoeJones
01-04-10, 12:14
I rather regret selling my 2x1GB DDR2 Laptop ram for £8 last year now ...:knock:


DoH!

Got some RAM in the house....probably just DDR but will hold onto it for another month before it goes on sale.


NAND is being used in so many different things now that the supply chain just isn't productive enough and hence they can push prices up.....which sucks.

Aaron
01-04-10, 12:25
I'm ok for ram at the moment.. Laptop is fine with 2gb and desktop is good with 4gb. The only thing that I might like to upgrade sometime is the ram in my A64 3000+ laptop and my XP2400+ and XP2700+ systems, but its not vital as they are only used for internet/emails/invoicing and all have at least 1gb..

Although an extra couple of gig in the C2D laptop would go down nicely :D

Mighty_Red
01-04-10, 12:51
Great that's all we need :( Really does halt the progress at the moment, since ideally we want 4GB DIMMs to be appearing in greater numbers, but I think that is a long way off (in the consumer space anyway)

RDRUNR
01-04-10, 14:25
Sounds like the manufacturers are padding their bank accounts (or paying off debt). I've seen so many ram price ebb and flows over the years. Back in the 90's EDO ram doubled in price for just 6 months before falling back down again.

wizard
01-04-10, 19:05
Sounds like the manufacturers are padding their bank accounts (or paying off debt). I've seen so many ram price ebb and flows over the years. Back in the 90's EDO ram doubled in price for just 6 months before falling back down again.

Not really, a big factor is currency fluctuations, now were looking at $1.47/£1.00.

Gunslinger
02-04-10, 13:09
:( this is not good news as i am about to do an upgrade on my dads machine, and dont know what i will need yet ... it is also likely to have a knock on affect right through many ranges, SSD's, GPU's and Pen Drives too i expect

NickCPC
09-04-10, 00:50
I blame Apple for the most recent increases (not the coming ones) - they literally stockpiled insane amounts for the Xmas period, meaning that all the other companies wanting NAND for SSDs/GPUs/RAM/USB Keys etc etc were paying through the roof for it as supply was so thin.

But yeah, this sucks.

sibeer
09-04-10, 09:18
RAM prices have always been a bugbear for the average IT enthusiast. One week you got a great deal, then two weeks later it is half the price, then it creeps up again. Must be like gambling for IT Buyers though, keeps you guys in your toes :ninja:

zaz
09-04-10, 09:56
I dont follow the news much as its mostly the same stuff week in week out but that big earthquake that hit Asia a few months ago knocked out the worlds largest copper mine and it was predicted to take months to re-establish transport networks.

Thats bound to have a knock-on affect on prices aswell.

RDRUNR
09-04-10, 10:24
As long as we don't go back to £50 per megabyte of ram, I think we are ok. :D

JoeJones
09-04-10, 16:42
As long as we don't go back to £50 per megabyte of ram, I think we are ok. :D


Haha....I remember upgrading my Atari 520ST by half a meg for £80....gosh..musta been early 90's

wonderlust
09-04-10, 19:42
Snap and paying £440 for a 100Mb external hard drive :redface:

Gunslinger
09-04-10, 21:11
Snap and paying £440 for a 100Mb external hard drive :redface:

bleh... not even one HD tv show rip would fit on that :lol:

RDRUNR
09-04-10, 21:28
Haha....I remember upgrading my Atari 520ST by half a meg for £80....gosh..musta been early 90's

My friend had the Atari 520ST and I the Amiga 500, what a competition! :D I also upgraded my Amiga 500 to 1 MB and it was around £160 at the time. Looks like the 520ST had the better deal going then.

wonderlust
10-04-10, 09:04
bleh... not even one HD tv show rip would fit on that :lol:

Not even an SD one lol

Umar
10-04-10, 09:29
Not even an SD one lol

Maybe a low quality flv! :D

RDRUNR
12-04-10, 13:32
Nothing I can do about the price increases here as I'm ordering my ram in May. :(

NickCPC
12-04-10, 14:32
Planning ahead hey ;D

scottmac
12-04-10, 14:39
I've seen this happen so many times before and have noticed the recent increase

@Gibbo - I supply quite a lot of 'cheap and cheerful' basic spec units to various places every month. Usually the RAM is just something like this

http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Memory/DDR2/DDR2+667+(PC5300/5400)/Hypertec+Hyperam+1GB+(1x1GB)+DDR2+PC2-5300C5+667MHz+Single+Channel+Memory+Module+?produc tId=37347

I've noticed a recent increase but do you think it is worth stoking up a little right now, how much would you expect the above to increase in the next month or two ?

RDRUNR
12-04-10, 15:45
I've noticed a recent increase but do you think it is worth stoking up a little right now, how much would you expect the above to increase in the next month or two ?

That would be like "timing the market", if you can do that, buy stocks instead. :D

scottmac
12-04-10, 15:50
That would be like "timing the market", if you can do that, buy stocks instead. :D

I know, I've seen this happen so often I remember the price of EDO going crazy years ago. Have always though about buying up tons of RAM and waiting for this to happen. Time it right and it would be a better investment than property, land or gold !

Not gonna re-mortgage just yet though

RDRUNR
13-04-10, 07:57
I know, I've seen this happen so often I remember the price of EDO going crazy years ago. Have always though about buying up tons of RAM and waiting for this to happen. Time it right and it would be a better investment than property, land or gold !

Not gonna re-mortgage just yet though


:)

It's easy to hind-sight things and have regrets about buying anything or investing in this or that. With ram we are lucky enough really to just need up to 6GB of it and you are done for years. Now if ram doubles in price I guess in the future and you want to speculate on that I'm sure Aria would give you a bulk deal if you ordered a few thousand pounds worth of DDR2 or DDR3... :thumb:

scottmac
13-04-10, 09:42
:)

It's easy to hind-sight things and have regrets about buying anything or investing in this or that. With ram we are lucky enough really to just need up to 6GB of it and you are done for years. Now if ram doubles in price I guess in the future and you want to speculate on that I'm sure Aria would give you a bulk deal if you ordered a few thousand pounds worth of DDR2 or DDR3... :thumb:

Don't reckon the missus would be too happy with me though, maybe when if I'm ever a millionaire I might just do it to see if it works

RDRUNR
13-04-10, 16:24
Don't reckon the missus would be too happy with me though, maybe when if I'm ever a millionaire I might just do it to see if it works

Well, then you'd be a small distributor :D Which is fun. But I'd go for the gusto and be a big distributor then you can supply aria. :D

sibeer
13-04-10, 18:12
Best profit rates are distributing to end users. Margins for bulk distribution of pretty much anything are rubbish.

RDRUNR
14-04-10, 11:19
Best profit rates are distributing to end users. Margins for bulk distribution of pretty much anything are rubbish.

There was a time in the early 90's and late 80's you could mark up computer parts by 20% (or more), that was quite common back then. When I had my store I remember in 1996 I was selling for 4-5% markup.

kristoficus
14-04-10, 15:48
RAM prices are getting insane... I remember in June '08 I got 2x2GB DDR800 GeiL Black Dragons for £38 delivered. Nowadays the same kit costs about £80-90.

I don't think I've actually seen consumer RAM prices drop at all in the past year to year and a half. I have seen trade prices fluctuate a little but this never seems to have reflected on buyer prices. RAM has been due a price drop for a while now so this NEW price hike comes as a little of a shock. Hopefully we'll see them drop to the 2008 levels by end of the year.

Tolmandary
20-04-10, 10:32
Best wait a while for my next big upgrade then. At least it shows the computer industry is recovering well.

scottmac
20-04-10, 11:18
There was a time in the early 90's and late 80's you could mark up computer parts by 20% (or more), that was quite common back then. When I had my store I remember in 1996 I was selling for 4-5% markup.

Spot on that, when the average price for a PC was £800-£1000 there was good money to be made, then in the mid-90's as they became more popular and companies like Time, Tiny etc. came about the £499, £399 and £299 systems came around and with all the competition the profit just disappeared to the point where you would maybe get a labour charge for putting a system together.

Oli356
20-04-10, 12:01
ANOTHER rise.... OUCH... they've already nearly doubled in the last few months..

My 4GB was £40-50 in September (IIRC) now its like £85 =/... way to expensive to upgrade :(

kristoficus
20-04-10, 12:48
I'm scouring eB@y daily in the hope to find a super cheap DDR3 SODIMM module for my Compaq mini 311c netbook but even eB@y is suffering the price rises compare to just 2-3 months ago.

RDRUNR
20-04-10, 17:44
Spot on that, when the average price for a PC was £800-£1000 there was good money to be made, then in the mid-90's as they became more popular and companies like Time, Tiny etc. came about the £499, £399 and £299 systems came around and with all the competition the profit just disappeared to the point where you would maybe get a labour charge for putting a system together.

Anyone remember (or did you have in the UK) eMachines? The eSystems really killed the market (for markup).

http://thefuntimesguide.com/images/blogs/emachine-computer-from-best-buy.jpg

Like look at this.. You just could not compete anymore as a store!

CMDR Furries
21-04-10, 08:46
I remember buying 8GB (4x2GB ) Corsair PC-8500 for £70 towards the end of 2008. Last time i looked, 4GB was around £80.

Maybe its time to sell this 8GB for a profit :)

RDRUNR
21-04-10, 11:21
I remember buying 8GB (4x2GB ) Corsair PC-8500 for £70 towards the end of 2008. Last time i looked, 4GB was around £80.

Maybe its time to sell this 8GB for a profit :)

You could make a tenner, not bad on used hardware. :D

Just check out the prices of DDR1 and I have 3 GB of it here I'll have to sell in a month or so. :D

Aaron
21-04-10, 13:47
How high are the 2nd hand? I've got 12x 1Gb sticks which I've just got from replacing a few computers, plus quite a few assorted 512/256mb sticks too!

Aaron
21-04-10, 13:49
Bliiimey - I just looked.. Its going for between £15 and £30 per stick!

El Wayneo
21-04-10, 13:50
Between £10 and £25 a stick.

For people who refuse to upgrade their whole machine and just want RAM/HDD and a clean, i pay around £28 - £30 for 2 x 1GB DDR.

Depending on how many i get at a time.

RDRUNR
21-04-10, 16:15
Yup, surprizing how much that DDR1 is when you can't get it anymore. Just think what DDR2 will be worth! :D

Gunslinger
21-04-10, 23:43
LOL ... i've got 7GB of DDR1 ... no you can't have it :P

RDRUNR
22-04-10, 08:15
LOL ... i've got 7GB of DDR1 ... no you can't have it :P

7GB, **** would love you to put it up (not that **** wants the DDR, they want the listing and selling fees.)

Koolpc
22-04-10, 08:59
Things do go up in price and down! Noticed quite a few price hikes lately on a selection of things.

kristoficus
22-04-10, 11:28
I'm a little concerned about it though as with the current climate of things I can't help but think that manufacturers/sellers are getting used to selling 4GB @ £80, that when DRAM prices drop in half in 'x' months time, RAM will continue selling at the high prices just to keep a huge markup.

Plus with RAM prices being at an increasinly high price which has been going on for quite a while now, i'm a little concerned about how much longer it will take for RAM to drop again.

scottmac
22-04-10, 12:46
I'm a little concerned about it though as with the current climate of things I can't help but think that manufacturers/sellers are getting used to selling 4GB @ £80, that when DRAM prices drop in half in 'x' months time, RAM will continue selling at the high prices just to keep a huge markup.

Plus with RAM prices being at an increasinly high price which has been going on for quite a while now, i'm a little concerned about how much longer it will take for RAM to drop again.

I know what you mean but it doesn't usually happen because one will see the opportunity of reducing the markup and selling more. Isn't it illegal for sellers to price set, a cartel or something ?

kristoficus
22-04-10, 13:16
According to DRAMExchange, seems this upward pricing trend will continue through to September. So really if you need RAM, buy now unless you don't mind waiting until Christmas!

I've always known RAM prices have been volatile and prices dip and climb, but it seems more out of place with the current trend than previous ones. in the past when i've seen RAM increases it's climbed up and up for 3-6 months and then sharply drops over the space of ~2 months. Currently though RAM prices have been increasing since about Q4-2008 - month after month, higher prices. Just seems to be going on a lot longer than in the past.

Ice Tea
23-04-10, 06:57
About time gigabyte upgraded the I-RAM and I-RAM BOX as that still uses standard DDR and just 4GB of the standard DDR if you can find it is now more expensive than a large SDD drive.

Gunslinger
23-04-10, 13:46
tell me about it... i was lucky and RMA'd 4GB of the stuff to patriot so i have 4GB nice new stuff in my i-Ram

Ice Tea
24-04-10, 08:22
It's rare now to even see 4GB of standard DDR being sold now second hand.

dtc
24-04-10, 10:57
Not only RAM but the price of mobo as well... up recently

Gunslinger
26-04-10, 03:06
It's rare now to even see 4GB of standard DDR being sold now second hand.

Try finding 2GB sticks of the stuff !!

99.9% of that is ECC Registered stuff for servers, and wont run in the i-Ram .... someone did make 2GB non-ECC sticks, but it was like rocking horse ***.

I theory, the -iRam will support 8GB if only you could find it !

Ice Tea
26-04-10, 06:29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-RAM

Intresting read 2/3rds down

Gunslinger
26-04-10, 10:47
Yes, it was planned for DDR2 and a better interface... but then the bean counters got a hold of it and it got reigned back, now it's not a feasible business plan as there are other options available (see below)... and they only state 4GB as the max, because 2GB DDR400 non-ecc sticks are stupidly rare, but it should work if you could find any

It is possible to have a 4-5GB RAM Drive on a 32bit machine by doing nothing more than installing 8GB of RAM on a compatible motherboard, and then running a RAM drive which can see/use and address the 4.5(ish)GB the OS ignores and put the page file in there

El Wayneo
26-04-10, 11:49
I heard RAM prices are supposed to have levelled out now and DDR3 is going to get cheaper.

Ice Tea
26-04-10, 13:03
Wonder how long it will be before DDR4 :)

butcherbird
26-04-10, 13:13
Even during a recession the Chinese economy grew some 9% and there are alot of inhabitants just itching for ram intensive kit. Plus in that economy there is no hesitation to shut down production facilities if the demand (abroad) is not there.

There is always a time lag between new demand and new supply so we end up living with it. Plus the weakness of the £ does not help. I recall buying trays of the stuff end of the 90's early 2000 when it was cheap and having whip rounds with mates building machines then.

Butcherbird

kristoficus
26-04-10, 14:43
I heard RAM prices are supposed to have levelled out now and DDR3 is going to get cheaper.

Not right now... RAM is still bumping up in price, has been for AGES, so nobody can really accurately predict prices will drop, at least anytime soon. DDR3 will get cheaper, but not until DRAM prices start to fall, which it aint doing and has no early signs of doing anytime soon...

RDRUNR
27-04-10, 15:56
I heard RAM prices are supposed to have levelled out now and DDR3 is going to get cheaper.

That would be nice, I'd like 12GB of it. :D