Now the PC is freezing :(

[williamsc47]

Hi all,

Me again :(

Well finally got the monitor I ordered today from aria to go with my new PC (should have arrived together but never mind :evil: ) so I finally had a chance to sepnd a bit of time with it, and one of the first things I notice is that it keeps freezing, twice when when I was loading E-mule, which I then un-installed and re-installed and it hasnt done it with that since, but now it simply stops responding and locks up when I try to install office 2003, thats just a couple of the times :(

As many of you have probably noticed, I am having endless amounts of trouble with all this at the moment and I just can't seem to see an end in sight :( anybody got any ideas on what this could be?

Currently I have been religated to a very old Pentium 233mhz PC lol, it's very slow but at least it's reliable :)

Cheers, Craig

[Micky007]

Hi Craig,

Have you tried Reinstalling XP?

Thanks

[williamsc47]

Hi,

Thanks for the responses

No, I haven't tried re-installing XP yet, that could be a next step I suppose, but as it was freshly installed by aria and has only been in my possession for 4 days, it seem unlikely to be the problem? May well try it though if no other ideas work.

As for RAM, sadly not, I have nothing that will fit this board other than whats in it. I have to say that a RAM problem was my first thought, especially as the Asus P5N32-E/680i chipset is very picky about compatible RAM?

Cheers, Craig

[Micky007]

[quote:2434b1fa18=\"ÈL ® ö B ì Ñ\"]Got any spare ram you could try?

Could be faulty ram.[/quote:2434b1fa18]

If i remember right Craig has a pc built with Aria and doing this may void his warranty. But it can also be that problem but i dont know if it can be.

Because with all PCs Aria build they test everything out before they ship it out. But because of all the problems Aria are currently facing they might have skipped that process to get orders out quicker or somthing.

But i dont think they would have done that to be honest. So erm...... id try reinstalling XP first.

If the problem is still there then contact Aria Tech (pm me for a direct number instead of ringing an 09 number ;) )

Thanks

[williamsc47]

Yeah ur right, which is another reason I wouldn't want to to try using different RAM, as it might void warranty :(

OK, well in that case I probably will try re-installing XP then I guess, unless anybody else can come up with some more software realted ideas?

Cheers, Craig

[Cheule]

[quote:c0f38e6bc1=\"williamsc47\"]OK, well in that case I probably will try re-installing XP then I guess, unless anybody else can come up with some more software realted ideas?[/quote:c0f38e6bc1]

Have you run memtest86?

[djdaface]

[quote:56618cea39=\"Micky007\"][quote:56618cea39=\"ÈL ® ö B ì Ñ\"]Got any spare ram you could try?

Could be faulty ram.[/quote:56618cea39]

If i remember right Craig has a pc built with Aria and doing this may void his warranty. But it can also be that problem but i dont know if it can be.

Because with all PCs Aria build they test everything out before they ship it out. But because of all the problems Aria are currently facing they might have skipped that process to get orders out quicker or somthing.

But i dont think they would have done that to be honest. So erm...... id try reinstalling XP first.

If the problem is still there then contact Aria Tech (pm me for a direct number instead of ringing an 09 number ;) )

Thanks[/quote:56618cea39]

Changing your ram does not effect your warrranty.

Have you checked your fan temps in your bios, to check your machine isnt running too hot, could be a fan failure.

Also check eventviewer this might tell you what the problem is when the pc is failing, although usually you see a blue screen when its an event problem, but it does help to diagnose.

Let us know if you find anything

[Belso]

Full computer spec please. :?:

[williamsc47]

Full Specs as follows:

Case: Coolermaster Wavemaster (Black)
Mobo: ASUS P5N32-E SLI
CPU: INTEL Core 2 Duo E6600
HDD: 400GB Seagate ST3400620A (IDE although advertised as SATA :evil: )
Graphics: Albatron GeForce 7900GS 256MB PCI-E
RAM: 2GB Corsair DDR2 667 PC5300
Optical Drive: LG GSA-H12NBAL (Black)
Floppy/Card reader: Mitsumi Floppy and card reader (Black)
PSU: Hiper Modular 530W True Power PSU (Black)
CPU Fan: Zalman CNP59700 Super Aero Flower cooler
OS: Microsoft Windows XP pro
Monitor: ASUS VW1925 19\" TFT Widescreen (It did arrive eventually :twisted: )

[williamsc47]

[quote:dffb473eb1=\"djdaface\"]

Changing your ram does not effect your warrranty.

Have you checked your fan temps in your bios, to check your machine isnt running too hot, could be a fan failure.

Also check eventviewer this might tell you what the problem is when the pc is failing, although usually you see a blue screen when its an event problem, but it does help to diagnose.

Let us know if you find anything[/quote:dffb473eb1]

Sorry, totally missed your post

Well I have checked temperatures as discussed in this thread:

http://www.lucyslair.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=1928

So I think they are ok, although the bios temps still show as fairly high? I will give them another check tonight.

will take a look at eventviewer tonight, thanks :)

Cheers, Craig

[Micky007]

[quote:4d276283c9=\"djdaface\"][quote:4d276283c9=\"Micky007\"][quote:4d276283c9=\"ÈL ® ö B ì Ñ\"]Got any spare ram you could try?

Could be faulty ram.[/quote:4d276283c9]

If i remember right Craig has a pc built with Aria and doing this may void his warranty. But it can also be that problem but i dont know if it can be.

Because with all PCs Aria build they test everything out before they ship it out. But because of all the problems Aria are currently facing they might have skipped that process to get orders out quicker or somthing.

But i dont think they would have done that to be honest. So erm...... id try reinstalling XP first.

If the problem is still there then contact Aria Tech (pm me for a direct number instead of ringing an 09 number ;) )

Thanks[/quote:4d276283c9]

Changing your ram does not effect your warrranty.

Have you checked your fan temps in your bios, to check your machine isnt running too hot, could be a fan failure.

Also check eventviewer this might tell you what the problem is when the pc is failing, although usually you see a blue screen when its an event problem, but it does help to diagnose.

Let us know if you find anything[/quote:4d276283c9]

Doesnt it?

I always thought it would, like say you rerplace the ram and you grab hold of the ram by its circuit board and you scrath it or somthing happens then it doesnt work.

You wouldnt be insured then??

Thanks

[Belso]

So lemme get this right, Brand new spanking PC?

Start having a play around with it, install Emule and some other programs.

PC Starts freezing every now and then?

CHKDSK that HDD dude!

[Aaron]

yeah, id go for the chkdsk or maybe temps too to begin with.. are you doing anything that could be CPU intensive when it freezes?

[williamsc47]

[quote:28e8780e69=\"Belso\"]So lemme get this right, Brand new spanking PC?

Start having a play around with it, install Emule and some other programs.

PC Starts freezing every now and then?

CHKDSK that HDD dude![/quote:28e8780e69]

Yeah, that more or less sounds about right, just generally un-reliable, I actually had every intention of setting everything up on the PC last night, you know get it how I wanted it basically, install various software etc, but after installing a few things and seeming to have endless freezing issues I decided to give up and post this thread :(

will do a CHKDSK this evening when I get home :)

[Anonymous]

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[Biodoid]

maybe a cable or something worked loose during shipping :?

[williamsc47]

Hi all,

OK, well I did a CHKDSK last night and that seemed to go ok, didnt do a full surface test as that would have taken forver, but I could do that if you think its needed. I think it did bring up at least one problem but it dissapeared too quikly to see, but think it was a disc space reading error (the classic one) :)

I then ran Memtes-86 didn't realise how long this took, after 3 and a half hours I turned it off, by this time it had passed 8 tests with no errors (apparently) gonna run it again today so that it can hopefully finish this time.

So, what next?

[Cheule]

Memtest doesn't finish, it loops. Basically you leave it running for x amount of hours (until you are happy it's stable) and then you reset the computer.

Seeing as that passed 8 loops with no issues, you might want to look at the CHKDSK with the full berries.

[williamsc47]

[quote:1eae0ca353=\"Cheule\"]Memtest doesn't finish, it loops. Basically you leave it running for x amount of hours (until you are happy it's stable) and then you reset the computer.

Seeing as that passed 8 loops with no issues, you might want to look at the CHKDSK with the full berries.[/quote:1eae0ca353]

OK, will take a look later..I hate running full disc scan disk..lol

[williamsc47]

Hi all:

ok, I have now run the memtest for an extra 4 1/2 hours and it passed 10 tests, no errors so that 18 tests total.

I have also now run a full CHKDSK, or at least I assume so, I did the following:

Start - Run - typed and entered \"cmd\" - typed \"chkdsk/r\" at prompt - restarted and let it run

That ran for about 2 hours I guess and sadly I missed the end so did not see if there were any errors, the freezing problem still remains just as bad, maybe worse....froze for over a minute just loading up IE7 :(

Updated temperatures (all just after 4 1/2hrs of Memtest-86):

CORE TEMP BETA results:

Core #0: 41c
Core #1: 36c

MOBO Bios results:

CPU: 52c
Motherboard temp: 38c

and some extra :)

FAN speeds (readings from mobo/bios):

CPU: 1979rpm
Cha_Fan1: 1638rpm (which fan is this anyway?)

OK, so any other suggestion?

[Anonymous]

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[williamsc47]

Yeah pretty much, theres no real pattern at all to the freezing :(

As for checking the RAM, I tried to find the QVL before buying but could track it down anywhere, so to be honest I really don't know on that, but I wouldn't be at all suprised as its a bit dodgy when it comes to RAM compatability apparently :(

[Biodoid]

just a thought did the freezing start to happen after you installed core temp? Reason I ask is because that's what happened to me random lockups, power offs etc..bought new psu and new ram (over £200 worth) and it still happened even with different bios updates. Then I removed core temp and system was fine after that no freezing or anything

[williamsc47]

[quote:abec488148=\"Biodoid\"]just a thought did the freezing start to happen after you installed core temp? Reason I ask is because that's what happened to me random lockups, power offs etc..bought new psu and new ram (over £200 worth) and it still happened even with different bios updates. Then I removed core temp and system was fine after that no freezing or anything[/quote:abec488148]

Ouch, thats an annoyin experience :(

However, the version I am using doesnt actually install, its just a stand alone executable file, so I wouldnt think that would be the case?

[Biodoid]

I think thats the one I was using as well..I had it starting auto when xp started..give it a try without it running..it's worth a gamble

[williamsc47]

well unless its been hiding somewhere when I boot up it hasnt been running most of the time, i only load it up to check the temps and only done that about 4 times the whole time, but I will try removing it entirely anyway when I next use the machine, which will be tomorrow now I expect, I am not moving my keyboard and mouse over anymore tonight...lmao :D

[Anonymous]

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[williamsc47]

OK, well just looked at removing it using regcleaner and its not even listed, but to be honest, why would it be as its not actually installed it works independently? Anyway I removed that and speedfan, speedfan I was also sable to remove using regcleaner, got rid of that just in case...we'll see if it makes any difference :)

[williamsc47]

OK, well removing those two made no difference (tested my attempting to install Office 2003), however I have just removed Zonealarm...sorry forgot to mention this...and was able to install office, without a freeze :) Watch this space?

[Biodoid]

so......does it still freeze?

[williamsc47]

Oh yeah, sorry forgot to update this thread.

Well I had a few other problems after that (not freezing) so I ended up decided to reformat entirely and start a fresh..after all, you only really know you have it installed as you want it by installing it yourself anyway don't you? :)

Anyway, did that reset everything up and then tried zonealarm again, and it started acting up again almost instantly...so removed it and all was well again...sor for some reason Zonealarm seems to disagree with my hard/software setup..anybody got any ideas on why this could be?

Doesn't matter too much, as I now have AVG Internet security instead, which seems to be working fine and not causing any problems, but it would stil be interesting to know why zonealarm just won't work with my machine...so any thoughts on that?

Anyway, thank you very very much to everyone who helped me out with this...very much appreciated...I'm sure there will be more to come...just take a look at the E6600 temperature thread...lol and try to help me solve another problem :D

Cheers, Craig

[Anonymous]

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[williamsc47]

Yeah I did have an issue with Nvidia firewall (half hardware firewall or something) when I first installed E-mule, told me that it was very buggy and can cause the memory to fill up and crash the system, so anyway I removed that entirely and that made no difference and of course I have since completely re-installed windows and never had it installed at all...I suppose it could still be soemthing to do with the hardware side of the firewall though I guess?