brothers damb pc, boot mbr, ntldr - wow im filling up the forums today :)

[stephen0205]

hi guys again, sorry most of u must be sick of my problems on the forums these last few days.

anyhowwwws.

my brother got his motherboard back from overclockers, finally.

so he gave me a call said he got my dad to fit it, so straigh off i knew he was gonna say it wasnt working.

for a surprise he said, it now shows on screen, and the pc boots fine, he formatted his hard drive in my dads pc and did not put a partition on it.

he was going to do that with the windows disk, so as the story goes, disaster has struck.

he cant get it to instal windows, so its now sitting here with me.

ok to start with, it was giving this boot mbr corrupt or missing, after doing some searching it seed as if it was an easy enuff fix.


WRONG ! - all the guides and tips online go for using the windows disk or a recovery disk, both of whichi have and booting them to get into the recovery console or using the start up fixes.

and then copy over 2 files to fix the problem. Well i cant get to the console, because after every windows disk i thow at this thing i have problems.

windows xp ones, it does a blue screen just before it gets to the partitions section.

windows vista tells me a problem and to reboot with the windows disk and use the start up repair, which is all good and dandy cause every time i try that i end up with that message.

the same happened with windows 7 disks.

its a different blue screen with the windows xp disks every time, its always something different.

now it randomly gets a ntldr missing or corrup error as well.

i thought maybe he was a tool, so i put the hard drive in mine and formated it again.

Even tried the hiren boot cd to try fix it, and nowt.

so now im at a loss once again. So any help would be greatly apreciated.






extra comment : (not related to the problem)

felt pure bad lately, im not a pc expert but i know a significant bit, but lately i just cant seem to fix some of the systems i receive. Feel as if im somewhat useless. Glad that when this crap happens u have good communities like aria to come to, and people help and offer advice.

i feel welcomed

[marsey99]

did the cable get damaged? if swapping that leaves it the same try something like @killdisk to really format the drive.

[HecklerUK]

Formatting the disk in windows isn't gonna fix it, the mbr is corrupt and you need to repair it from dos

http://www.fileguru.com/apps/mbr_repair_dos

Something there might be able to help with that... not used any of them before so use at your own risk.

Have you tested the drive to make sure it's not failed in some way?

[alexnifty]

killdisk will work from a self booting floppy.

[Iaink]

also just make sure you add some volts to the RAM and CPU just to make sure they're not messing up on you, sometimes the bios defaults aren't stable (my board doesn't give the RAM enough volts so it crashes when loading windows and even crashes loading windows off a disk to re-install

[Aaron]

If the suggestions above don't work, I would try just making sure the ram settings are good, and try installing on one stick of ram only. If it doesnt work, swap the sticks over. I had an almost identical problem and it turned out that a stick of the RAM had died, and was causing every single disc I tried to produce an error :)

[Iaink]

so did I a few days ago, turned out resetting the bios had set the ram down to 1.8V... It needs 2.1V ideally :)

[stephen0205]

pc all fixed now, i ran memtest, was a faulty ram chip, once it was out, i had windows 7 installed and the whole thing running within an hour.

thank you for all your helps

[Iaink]

was it running at recommended voltage? it may not be faulty, just not getting enough juice

[Aaron]

pc all fixed now, i ran memtest, was a faulty ram chip, once it was out, i had windows 7 installed and the whole thing running within an hour.

thank you for all your helps
Glad you got it sorted :)

[stephen0205]

the voltage count be the problem, the other stick works fine, there both vdata and the other ones fine

[Aaron]

Might be worth trying a bit of extra voltage... You might just have a set of ram that works fine under a lower voltage purely by fluke, but one of the sticks might have one chip that needs the rated voltage through it.. Give it a go and see what happens - it can't hurt to try :)

[stephen0205]

put it back in and the pc wouldnt boot properly, soo i upped the voltage like u said, only a little tho, restarted and nowt, tried a little higher and nothing, i think it is dead

[Aaron]

Put what back in the PC, and upped the voltage on what?

If you're talking about the ram, it sounds pretty much like it was on its way out before any of this :)