help needed - possibly too much paste

[randomowner]

hi,

i just installed my mux-120 cpu cooler onto my i5 and i think i may have put on too much paste (3 lines)

im getting min temps of 26 - 30 degrees and load of 45 -48

is this normal?

btw this is with the i5 at stock settings, no overclocking

EDIT - Load temps are 57 degrees

[mac124]

What you using to measure the temps, core temp or similar?

Assuning it is and if thats 100% load across 4 cores using something like prime95 / intel burn test etc then thats fine, good in fact.

[randomowner]

using realtemp

just used intel burn test and am gettin 57 degrees at load :eek:

thats wayyyy to much right? cos when im going to oc it i was planning to keep it at around 60 degrees load

[DoubleTop]

57 is still fine, imo.

DT.

[randomowner]

what sort of tems should i expect at 4.0 ghz when i oc.

i was hoping to stay below 65 at max

[AaronWHUFC]

57 degrees is good. I'd take of all the old TIM, put a pea sized amount of TIM on and then see what temps are like. It's the most accepted way of applying TIM now.

[randomowner]

57 degrees is good. I'd take of all the old TIM, put a rice grain sized amount of TIM on and then see what temps are like. It's the most accepted way of applying TIM now.


how much difference would i see in temps? currently i did 3 lines accross the cpu

reason for asking rather than just trying it out is because im not sure how much paste i have left

[AaronWHUFC]

how much difference would i see in temps? currently i did 3 lines accross the cpu

reason for asking rather than just trying it out is because im not sure how much paste i have left

IMO, You've overdone it. There's only one sure way to find out it will make a difference, do it!. If your worries about how much you have left, all that's needed is a pea sized grain, not sure why i said rice before:confused:

[randomowner]

IMO, You've overdone it. There's only one sure way to find out it will make a difference, do it!. If your worries about how much you have left, all that's needed is a pea sized grain, not sure why i said rice before:confused:

yeah i think i probably will do it again, just done a quick overclock with oc tuner to 3.5ghz and getting load temps of 70 degrees just by running intel burn test just on with stress levels on standard

using a pea sized amount shall i just do it in the middle or a straight line as that is what is recommended by the guide on the arctic silver website

[AaronWHUFC]

yeah i think i probably will do it again, just done a quick overclock with oc tuner to 3.5ghz and getting load temps of 70 degrees just by running intel burn test just on with stress levels on standard

using a pea sized amount shall i just do it in the middle or a straight line as that is what is recommended by the guide on the arctic silver website

In the middle, then allow the pressure of the CPU Cooler to give the CPU an even convering:thumb:

[randomowner]

In the middle, then allow the pressure of the CPU Cooler to give the CPU an even convering:thumb:

ok will do that - thanks for ur help :P

will post back if i end up doing it today

[Col]

This topic reminds me of my grudge against Arctic Silver 5. Maybe I put the wrong amount on the last few times. Although both times I just followed the instructions: a small ball-bearing sized blob in the middle, then sspread it across the headspreader using a bit of card, covering the heatspreader.

Currently on my new 965 though, it's using the thermal paste that was already applied. Getting idle temps of about 30-38, load temps of 52-58, on SpeedFan.

[Iaink]

I do a single vertical line normally, about the thickness of a grain of rice and about 50% of the length of the CPU, if you tighten the HSF down enough that should be more than enough (any extra just splodges out of the side, does no harm and can be cleaned up easily)

[.Alan.]

I'd never apply paste in more than one place i.e. several blobs or lines as you could end up trapping air in there when the heatsink is seated.

[mac124]

I don't think there are any hard and fast rules, a lot depends on the cpu and cooler being used.

For example the direct contact heatpipes, it is recommended you use quite a lot of paste on these to get the best results as they have gaps between the heat pipes and mounting plate, basically apply to the individual heat pipes in the middle half to two thirds which will be in contact with the cpu. Seems to work for me anyway on my Sunbeam core contact. Years ago they used to recommend applying paste to the base of the heatsink and rubbing it in then wiping it off to fill any tiny imperfections.

At the end of the day you need to experiment with your own particular cooler and cpu to find what works best on YOUR setup. No cpu's / heatsinks are identical so what works for one might not work for another.

My 2p :D.

[randomowner]

mac124, i see from your sig u got a i5 at 4 ghz, what sort of temps do you get?

[randomowner]

overnight the temps seem to have dropped a few degrees due to the paste setting, also found out fan was wrong way around - fixed this now.

Overall temps have dropped by 7 degrees

will probably try re-applying paste as well when i get the time

[mac124]

last time i checked it was about 70ish under afew hours of prime95, though this is using a thermaltake SpinQVT which was one of the very few non standard coolers available at the time the 1156 was released, which was when i got mine.

I might be trying another cooler very soon so this might well improve.

[randomowner]

do you remember what your temps were with same cooler but cpu at stock settings?

would just like to know so that i could also use that for comparison

[mac124]

Sorry, no idea, it wasn't at stock for very long :D once i had windows etc on i overclocked it :lol:

[randomowner]

lol no prob

maybe this a question for another thread but being so new to overclocking and stuff i cant make sense of the bios for some stuff, for example i have no idea were the settings are for changing ram multiplier

im using a asus p7p55d mobo

if anyone knows of any sites were the bios for this mobo is broken down into detail please do let me know :)

[marsey99]

http://www.innovationcooling.com/applicationinstructions.htm

thats has some of the best img i have seen on the do's and dont's of slapping on tim.

personally i go with a more oval bead than a pea sized blob/grain of rice these days, and its either up/down a bit on a duo or side to side on a quad, use the writing on the cpu to see which is the top.

[randomowner]

thanks for that link :D just had a quick look and it realy does seem useful

[marsey99]

one of the guys on here has a good review of your board up here (http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/reviews/24295-asus-p7p55d-deluxe-living-review.html) im sure he will help if he sees this thread :D

[ZodiarK]

All you need is one small blob in the middle that it wiggle the heatsink around get it seated pushing out any trapped air.
Trust me im a professional :P well i get paid for that anyway..

[.Alan.]

I'd never apply paste in more than one place i.e. several blobs or lines as you could end up trapping air in there when the heatsink is seated.


All you need is one small blob in the middle that it wiggle the heatsink around get it seated pushing out any trapped air.
Trust me im a professional :P well i get paid for that anyway..

Damn, we're good.:D

[ZodiarK]

ahaa

[arknor]

http://www.innovationcooling.com/applicationinstructions.htm

thats has some of the best img i have seen on the do's and dont's of slapping on tim.

personally i go with a more oval bead than a pea sized blob/grain of rice these days, and its either up/down a bit on a duo or side to side on a quad, use the writing on the cpu to see which is the top.

intresting link that ive never saw before, not sure i agree with them on the single line method though.

[DoubleTop]

I follow the method that Artic Silver recommended years ago, a bit of plastic of somekind over a finger, a small blob of paste and then rub it onto the heatsink to make sure any imperfections in the heatisnk are covered. I then place a blob in the middle of the core transfer and use a spreader in a outwards movement from the centre to the edges. When placing the heatsink onto the chip, do everything possible to not move too much, apart from a tiny twist left then right, this has kept all my cpus in the past clean and at good temps. I'm not one for the expensive paste either, I've a load of coolermaster tubes that I brought in bulk years back. I've also got some proper paste removal fluids as well. You can gain much more in cooling terms from well placed case fans over the tiny fraction you gain from the expensive pastes.

DT.

[Ropster]

http://www.innovationcooling.com/applicationinstructions.htm

thats has some of the best img i have seen on the do's and dont's of slapping on tim.



interesting, but it also shows that it depends on the type of tim as to how much you need. AS5 instructions show you only need 1.5 grains of cooked rice for the same sized cpu. pea sized (as mentioned in the link) would be way over the top in that case.

[shoudy]

the temps are fine, even tho i think you overdo it with the paste i think you could get slightly better temps 1 pea size plob in the middle and spread it with a card or a piece of cardboard is what i do.