View Full Version : Whats wrong with Vista
Tinkernology
04-02-10, 19:27
Over the last couple of years I have constantly been reading comments from people who can't abide windows vista and were adamant they wanted to hang on to windows xp til it died a slow painful death. I was an early user of xp and also vista now I run windows 7 too but quite frankly vista had far less troubles than xp and after initial teething troubles turned out to be the best operating system to date.
Windows 7 is also a great operating system though I still miss one or two things from vista but that happens and give it a while they may well appear in a subsequent update anyhow. So many people get hot under the collar when things are not working the way they expect and fail to try to find the remedy or where they have gone wrong in the first place. As long as you are not totally wreckless it is a good thing to dig around and see what is hidden in the system (carefully) check through settings and you may well get to be wiser in the process too.
When I first installed xp to replace a hopeless previous incarnation that had more bugs than a hospital burn bin there were no drivers for many of my periferals but they appeared online after a fdew weeks waiting.
Windows 7 will be great too but how long before it is replaced itself lets hope the talk of cloud system never comes to fruition I prefer my own pc to have its own operating system and its own security software.
"Whats wrong with Vista"
The problem most people had with Vista, is that it was a huge change from XP. It required most users to get new hardware for it to run efficiently, it had a few major changes with the user interface and of course, at the time of release it had some problems (but so did XP before the service packs).
Some people speak of Vista as a crime against humanity. But think about it, Windows 7 would get the exact same criticisms if Vista hadn't been there before it.
There's nothing wrong with the actual OS. The negativity surrounding it is because it wasn't designed for the systems most people were running at the time of release.
also it eats up HDD space
justification? i've not had any bad experience with it other than it being a RAM hog and taking up about 60-80GB
DayGloScooter
04-02-10, 20:23
personally? You can't right-click the network icon in the notification area to see the IP address. In fact, network and sharing centre generally is just layers of extra waffle compared to XP. Come to think of it, it has too much user-interface generally.
Well game performance has always been a bit of a bug-bear on Vista but to be honest I always preferred XP on my old laptop. I have Vista on my gaming rig / server and that performs very well but Win 7 on my dual core laptop. I guess what I'm trying to say is stick with your pre-loaded OS and if you upgrade expect it to run slower.
My old MS-DOS rig had a 40Meg Hard-Disk and I only just managed to fit a bloated copy of windows 3.11 and MS-office). Point is Microsoft like to fill your system full of crap...
I prefer the front end on Windows 7 the sidebar app was streamlined and performance is superb!:thumb:
Vista, even on a good rig seemed bloated & slow.
W7 by comparison seemed much nicer & sleeker. But people did say that W7 is what Vista should have been.
I remember getting my 1st PC with Window Millenium (shudder) on it & went to 98 as soon as I could then to XP as soon as it arrived. XP was/is good but I couldn't go back to it now.
From my experience it is just very buggy, even after so many patches, and as already mentioned it is very demanding, even compared to 7.
I have an old 1.7 K7 AMD with 512mg ram and 64mb GPU. Vista wouldnt respond to anything when i installed it, it was terrible, whereas i installed 7, and it ran very smooth, not much slower than XP.
As for the buggyness of Vista, it was terrible at finding up-to-date drivers and it would take days or even upto a few weeks to notify you of new updates, whereas windows 7 installed all the latest drivers as soon as i first logged in, i found no real bad problems that vista had either. Windows 7 just works like a dream, windows Vista was just an absolute pain
"Whats wrong with Vista"
The problem most people had with Vista, is that it was a huge change from XP. It required most users to get new hardware for it to run efficiently, it had a few major changes with the user interface and of course, at the time of release it had some problems (but so did XP before the service packs).
Some people speak of Vista as a crime against humanity. But think about it, Windows 7 would get the exact same criticisms if Vista hadn't been there before it.
There's nothing wrong with the actual OS. The negativity surrounding it is because it wasn't designed for the systems most people were running at the time of release.
WHATS WRONG? whats right with it. i hate it
Theres nothing worng with it anymore.
I got 64bit when it was released and there waslittle or no driver support if any.
Yeah its a resource hog, but 2GB of RAM and any dualcore CPU will do fine.
People forget XP was a sack of crap when it came out.
Vista is so good and so stable that i haven't bothered paying for Windows7 (even when it was £43), which is easier to run, but is just Vista, a slightly shinier Vista.
I used it from day one until win7 was released and i never had any major problems with it at all, sure it was a bit of a hog and slower than xp but to me going back to xp was like a step backwards even if it wasnt, i had a decent specced pc anyway so didnt noticed a huge perfomance hit, i actually thought it was ok, and even better was when i managed to sell my ultimate retail last summer for £120 :D
I've stuck with xp on my gaming PC purely because i can't afford the 4gb of ram required to game on vista, 2gb is fine on xp, will be doing to upgrade to 7 soon though since i loved vista on my laptop and now have windows 7 on it
personally? You can't right-click the network icon in the notification area to see the IP address. In fact, network and sharing centre generally is just layers of extra waffle compared to XP. Come to think of it, it has too much user-interface generally.
Agree with this, I think the network and sharing centre made it more difficult for a casual user to add a Vista machine to an existing XP based home network. I also think that all the different editions gave some a headache, 'Home' and 'Pro' was pretty easy for people to understand, never mind all the basic, premium business and ultimate things to choose from
However, Vista was probably necessary as it makes the interface differences between XP and 7 a lot less. Personally I've not had a problem with Vista. I've had my current Laptop 2 years and it's always been fine with Home Premium.
Theres nothing worng with it anymore.
I got 64bit when it was released and there waslittle or no driver support if any.
Yeah its a resource hog, but 2GB of RAM and any dualcore CPU will do fine.
People forget XP was a sack of crap when it came out.
Vista is so good and so stable that i haven't bothered paying for Windows7 (even when it was £43), which is easier to run, but is just Vista, a slightly shinier Vista.
I'm on W7 now but I completely agree with this.
+1 on killer whats right with it?
the main thing that held it back was people were to used to xp, vista is laid out in a much more sensible way compared to xp and if you put sombody infront of 2 machines with both os on they would find things easier in winver 6.x than 5.x.
yes the drivers for vista were pants when it first came out, but thats not ms fault is it? the only real gripe i had with vista was that the 64bit version would crash if you tried to install it with 4gb of system ram installed, which is the only reason people wanted the 64bit version as 32bit couldnt address it all.
i also really love how people slate vista and say how great 7 is when its 99.9% vista, makes me wonder how many used vista or just believed the neg rep it got?
Tinkernology
05-02-10, 18:08
My current PC is now running Windows 7 but I gave it a try on an older machine first running both side by side to see how it compared and check that I would be happy running all my current applications on it. The older machine was getting a little tired but handled it well so I made the switch and not looking back now even though I loved Vista on it. My only gripe currently is I cannot print directly from works on my printer (olivetti anyway photo wireless), I will be trying with a different printer sometime soon to see if it is more than just a driver issue. If anyone else should come across this problem try printing to microsoft xps document writer and then sending it on from there to your printer that works fine. Other than that printing from windows explorer is not a problem.
Just to reply to chronic monkey your old rig would seem slow running vista with only 512 mb of ram but then it would have been slow with xp too as microsoft said when they released it that minimum spec for xp was 512 mb just to run the operating system.
+1 on killer whats right with it?
-1 whats wrong with it more like it
Its a resource hog, much more so that 7
Its still very buggy, even compared to 7
skunksmash
06-02-10, 11:32
vista's a great OS....... solid code :), im staff over at a pretty large ''vista'' (http://www.vistax64.com)support site & ive seen thousands of ppl slate vista for various reasons, more often than not its user error or a lac of PC power.
it is technically ''faulty'' out of the box as it wont run well on the specs MS provide, this is its only shortcoming.
as long as you have ample resources on your machine vista is just as fast, good looking & reliable as ''7'' :thumb:
theelusiveyoda
06-02-10, 13:19
people just moan because they have less than 1gb of ram and are to cheap buy any more.
Tinkernology
06-02-10, 16:47
Given the current prices of memory there is little reason anyone should be running less than 1 GB on their machine unless their motherboard is so ancient it will not take it. Vista works ok with 1 GB better with 2GB and great with 4GB or more. It is fine slagging off vista for being so full of controls but I remember how easily the hackers and worm peddlers got inside xp in the early days so was quite happy to live with tighter controls.
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