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Hi there
OK I am selling the Mustang at some point in the near future, could be weeks or months but I want a change and I have narrowed it down to these five very different vehicles:-
Mitsubishi EVO 9 FQ 360
http://cdn.images.pistonheads.com/aimg/1390/1390431-1.jpg
Power = 366BHP
Torque = 363lb/ft @ 3200rpm
0-60mph = 3.9s
0-100mph = 10.6s
Weight = 1400kg
5 Speed manual
Average economy = 18MPG
Service Intervals every 4500miles
Incredible grip, handling and feedback, good in all conditions, shabby interior, kick from turbo makes feel very fast and reasonable fun.
Cost circa 20k
BMW E46 M3 CSL
http://cdn.images.pistonheads.com/aimg/1408/1408328-2.jpg
Power = 360BHP
Torque = 270lb/ft @ 5000rpm
0-60mph = 4.8s
0-100mph = 10.9s
Weight = 1380kg
6 Speed SMG-II
Average economy = 23MPG
Service Intervals every 12000miles
Incredible grip, handling and feedback, good in all conditions, great build quality and lots of fun, plus great sound.
Cost circa 27k
Nissan 370Z
http://www.privatefleet.com.au/images/upload/Image/Nissan%20370Z(1).jpg
Power = 330BHP
Torque = 275lb/ft @ 4400rpm
0-60mph = 5.2s
0-100mph = 12.5s
Weight = 1500kg
6 Speed Manual with syncro revs
Average economy = 25MPG
Service Intervals every 12000miles
Incredible grip, handling and feedback, not so good in wet, great build quality and lots of fun, loves to drift
Cost circa 27k
Audi A5 3.0 TDI Quattro
http://cdn.images.pistonheads.com/aimg/1430/1430466-1.jpg
Power = 240BHP
Torque = 360lb/ft @ 1800rpm
0-60mph = 5.8s
0-100mph = 15.0s
Weight = 1650kg
6 Speed Manual
Average economy = 42MPG
Service Intervals every 10000miles
Good grip, reasonable handling and poor feedback, awsome build quality, great looks and lovely interior. Not so much fun to drive, very much a cruiser/tourer, but good remap potential too 280BHP / 420Lb/Ft which would drop 0-60 towards 5.4s and 0-100mph too around 13s.
Cost circa 26k
Porsche Cayman S
http://cdn.images.pistonheads.com/aimg/1349/1349890-1.jpg
Power = 291BHP
Torque = 250lb/ft @ 5000rpm
0-60mph = 5.2s
0-100mph = 11.6s
Weight = 1350kg
6 Speed Manual
Average economy = 35MPG
Service Intervals every 15000miles
Good grip, excellent handling and excellent feedback, awsome build quality, great looks and lovely interior. Huge fun to drive and incredible steering.
Cost circa 28k
I also love the Jaguar XK 4.2l V8, the new shape ones but do they do those in manual or are they all AUTO's?
Or do I keep the Mustang, though I really do want something else.
nissan 370z is the one i'd go for (having not looked at any of the specs :P)
AaronWHUFC
10-01-10, 21:17
The Audi for pure style!
The Porsche is the one I'd be looking at though.
Audi would win for me.
DT.
Hi there
I will also be keeping the 306 HDI as well so if I get something that drinks fuel not really an issue as will have the 306. :)
or possibly the mitsubishi, looks a it too boy racer though.. however you do currently have a stang... :P
or possibly the mitsubishi, looks a it too boy racer though.. however you do currently have a stang... :P
Hi there
I've never seen one boy racer in a Mustang. :p
But agreed the EVO does have an image of boy racer or lunatic, its the lunatic side that attracts me to it. :D
IMO - changing from a mustang, they all seem a bit.... normal...?
how about getting a kit car? :D
or renovating a ford escort cosworth
or an audi Quattro, those are the two cars i want
Hi there
I've never seen one boy racer in a Mustang. :p
But agreed the EVO does have an image of boy racer or lunatic, its the lunatic side that attracts me to it. :D
EVO everytime....just for the exact same reasons as you :p and it looks mean. You don't see many of them around either.
Do you not like the EVO X?
how about getting a kit car? :D
or renovating a ford escort cosworth
or an audi Quattro, those are the two cars i want
Hi there
I like some creature comforts, so a kit car is a no otherwise I'd just buy a Noble and get it over and done with.
Don't like Escort Cosworths, stock ones are hard to find and they are slow, very slow compared to the cars listed here, they are only quick when modified.
I am not much for the Quattros, I've driven two RS4's and the S5 they have pace and awsome build quality but was not really hearing them. I know I put the A5 on my list but its just an alternative option being a rapid diesel.
EVO everytime....just for the exact same reasons as you :p and it looks mean. You don't see many of them around either.
Do you not like the EVO X?
HI there
I love the EVO X and see you can get those for 25k as well, but I've heard the new engine sounds crap, its slower than the 9 and well a bit too refined. Reviews seem to say the 9 is the better driving car, rawer, faster and sharper.
Having owned an M3 CSL and the Mustang I don't mind rawness as long as build quality is reasonable and the FQ360 I drove a while back I was happy with.
Also the FQ360 wins on the tuning side, spend about 2k on it and got 400BHP with ease, but its mega money once you pass 440BHP.......
I'd be buying the Jaguar XK in a flash, but its got a horrible automatic gearbox and for a lightweigth V8 its not particular quick at 5.9s to 60mph and as such I'd rather have the A5, faster, better built and cost far less to run. Shame the XK can't be got in manual with around 350BHP on tap.
Could you post a pic of your mustang i really like them, have you considered a EVO X..
Could you post a pic of your mustang i really like them, have you considered a EVO X..
HI there
Search the forum m8, loads of pics of it on here. :)
Yes am considering the X too, just head the 9 is the better driving machine, though the X does look nicer and has longer service intervals.
Just seen the pics really nice car how much did that cost you?
Evo 1st, 370 2nd. Its litterally is a toss of a coin.
Most BM / Audi drivers i have experienced are knob's tbh, salesmen / rep and middle management "own the road" so and so's, though those aren't your everyday BM / Audi's, the stigma is still there though, imho.
Anything less than a 911 just isn't a porsche in my book.
You know where you stand with the Mitsi and 370.
Evo 1st, 370 2nd. Its litterally is a toss of a coin.
Most BM / Audi drivers i have experienced are knob's tbh, salesmen / rep and middle management "own the road" so and so's, though those aren't your everyday BM / Audi's, the stigma is still there though, imho.
Anything less than a 911 just isn't a porsche in my book.
You know where you stand with the Mitsi and 370.
Hi there
Yep looked at 997 C2S but those are expensive and I don't think they are worth 10k more than a CSL. Plus the car I am buying is with cash, don't want any finance.
Looked at the Cayman as its supposed to be better handling than the 911's been mid-engined and the short time I had in one it was a nice place to be though you did need to work it but the acceleration felt good in it.
Sorry All nice cars but for me its a EVO everytime.... X would be a no brainer. wins on looks and pure lunacy imo.
Sorry All nice cars but for me its a EVO everytime.... X would be a no brainer. wins on looks and pure lunacy imo.
HI there
Yep I am leaning towards the EVO, since having this little 306 with a turbo there is something about the surge of a turbo and I did love the FQ 360 I drove.
Am thinking of getting an MR FQ 360 that has the titanium more responsive turbo and just stick a stage 1 remap and exhaust on it for a simple 400BHP/400Lb/Ft, plenty of lunacy there for me and plenty fast enough. :)
Will have to drive both a IX and X I think, everyone I have spoken to who has driven both says the IX is faster and more fun, but the X is more refined, better looking and cheaper to run.
Hmm, Well being a Porsche man that i am i wouldnt choose the Porsche!
I never really felt a cayman and only having 2 seats is a pain!
The Evo is not really my type of car but it is a really good car, Nice and safe, 4WD, Good handling and loads of power!
Audi is very nice, But more refined. You couldnt have as much fun in that as the others.
Nissan, Nope. Dont like the look of them and they dont hold their price!
Ive got to say as much as i dont like BMW drivers, I would choose the BMW.
Just remember to use your indicators!
Hmm, Well being a Porsche man that i am i wouldnt choose the Porsche!
I never really felt a cayman and only having 2 seats is a pain!
The Evo is not really my type of car but it is a really good car, Nice and safe, 4WD, Good handling and loads of power!
Audi is very nice, But more refined. You couldnt have as much fun in that as the others.
Nissan, Nope. Dont like the look of them and they dont hold their price!
Ive got to say as much as i dont like BMW drivers, I would choose the BMW.
Just remember to use your indicators!
Hi there
I think out of all those cars the best one is the M3 CSL, good build quality, looks the part as in class but mean as well. SMG gearbox, quality interior, great sound make it one very awsome car. HOWEVER I have already owned one and yes I loved it but maybe I should try something else.
I agree on the Nissan, I'd pay 27k for one now and in 12 months probably get only 20k for it, thats a whopping loss.
The Cayman hard to say, having spent a short time in one the steering feedback is just sensational, best steering in a car ever driven, handling is awsome but takes guts to exploit it due to been mid-engined, the looks I think are a bit odd and they do lack a bit of grunt, the CSL is a quicker just as good handling option.
The Audi also agreed, good refinement, good sense of speed from the torque and in my view the best looking car and best quality out of them all but seriously lacking in the fun department.
The EVO is a serious favourite, easy to achieve 400BHP safely for not a lot of money and with uprated brakes an awsome machine on road and track, probably one of the quickest A-B cars available and the turbo makes them feel more like 600BHP which is a nice thing. Thinking EVO it might be, don't really care about the image its more about the driving fun and pleasure. So as I drive along the A34 daily the EVO would love those twisties and overtaking opportunities.
bet you cant guess which one I would choose lol..though I never owned a 9 last one was an 8 then went R34 before getting the X
bet you cant guess which one I would choose lol..though I never owned a 9 last one was an 8 then went R34 before getting the X
HI m8
What X do you have m8 and whats your honest oppinion of it?
I drove an 8 and absolutely hated it, thought it was poorly built and it power delivery was way to peaky.
The 9 felt like it was built in different factory where they paid decent wages as it felt well put together and it pulled strongly from 3000RPM and just seem to drive so much better.
However I've not yet driven a 10.
I agree on the Nissan, I'd pay 27k for one now and in 12 months probably get only 20k for it, thats a whopping loss.
When you look at it like that, and smaller timescales, it speaks for itself! It would be costing you £140 a week even if you did zero miles in it, purely in depreciation... I could think of better things to do with £20 a day! :lol: :lol:
HI there
The best EVO vs SCOOBY review yet, epic funny:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWv0LbGIDi8
This is a good video of cars tested on a track:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytGT47mDk9s
Evo X GSR FQ 300 SST (the one with the paddle shifters) it drives good and yes the engine is a bit quieter but still good enough.
I like it but I still think my 6 in white was the best looking
skunksmash
11-01-10, 04:02
Beamer........:D:D:D
They all do seem a bit normal VS the Mustang in a WTF was that head turning sense.
Out of the above it would have to be the Audi based on a very respectable MPG @ 42. But not too slow speeds (and with remap prob on par with the rest speed wise)
Also the ****pit, for me the interior is just as important as the exterior as its where you'll be spending most of your time.
There is nothing worse than a cheap plastically (usually light grey!) ratty interior.
So yeah the Audi.
They all do seem a bit normal VS the Mustang in a WTF was that head turning sense.
Out of the above it would have to be the Audi based on a very respectable MPG @ 42. But not too slow speeds (and with remap prob on par with the rest speed wise)
Also the ****pit, for me the interior is just as important as the exterior as its where you'll be spending most of your time.
There is nothing worse than a cheap plastically (usually light grey!) ratty interior.
So yeah the Audi.
HI there
Yep agreed the Audi remapped should drop 0-60mph to around 5.5s and 0-100mph to circa 13s area. 60-100mph in gear would seem circa 8s for a remapped diesel which is not bad. Yes the A5 is probably the nicest interior car I've ever sat in, it just oozes quality.
Only thing is I do like my cars quite raw, hence the Mustang, M3 CSL, S2000. The closest car I had to an A5 I can think off would be my Mitsubishi 3000GT as that was a big heavy GT with 4WD and as much as I loved it I also found it boring as well. I think an A5 would be a similar drive, just be down on power a bit and now have the road presence/sound like the 3000GT did.
I've written of the 370Z, 27k for a car than in a years time will be circa 20k is just a no no, I don't intend on flushing 7k down the drain.
The Cayman S I feel simply does not have the grunt I am use too, not sure its super sharp handling would make up for this but its risky.
So I think the two strongest contenders are the M3 CSL which I know is fantastic and the Mitsubishi MR FQ 360. I've had a CSL before so I should really try something different and the good thing about the MR FQ 360 is they have stopped depreciating, 23k gets you an immaculate example with sub 10k miles on the clock and running around 390BHP/390Lb/Ft or 20k will get you a stock car with about 20-30k on the clock.
Plus the EVO 9 MR FQ 360 is the closest performance wise to the Mustang as with 390BHP you look at a quicker 0-60mph on 3.7s, slightly slower 0-100mph time of 9.9s and 1/4 mile in 12.50s at 115mph. Plus the EVO has tons of grip and is fun but if I do get bored its quite an easy car to sell on some 6-12 months later and only loose 1-2k in the process.
Yep none of the cars will have the WOW factor of the Mustang, it had looks, rarity and noise. But I've owned it twice now, totalling over 3 years and I just have the bug for something else and its been a long long time since I had a powerful JAP Turbo car. :D
Looks like you made your mind up already then....
get the 300 if you want the fq and remap that, save some cash on price and has bigger fual tank.
£12k gets you some 600hp+ fun here (http://www.skyline-owners-club.com/forums/30177-r32-gtr-635-bhp-hks-t51-single-turbo.html) and that wont drop much in price as its already an old car, tbh i think he would take 10 if you waved it under his nose.
or if you want some propper lunacy get this 1200hp monster (http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1132147.htm)
tbh if i was going to drop that kind of cash i would take a long look at this (http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1185357.htm) as its out the box ready with the mods and its getting 600hp with only 1.4bar which does leave you open to squeeze more if you wanted.
get the 300 if you want the fq and remap that, save some cash on price and has bigger fual tank.
£12k gets you some 600hp+ fun here (http://www.skyline-owners-club.com/forums/30177-r32-gtr-635-bhp-hks-t51-single-turbo.html) and that wont drop much in price as its already an old car, tbh i think he would take 10 if you waved it under his nose.
or if you want some propper lunacy get this 1200hp monster (http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1132147.htm)
tbh if i was going to drop that kind of cash i would take a long look at this (http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1185357.htm) as its out the box ready with the mods and its getting 600hp with only 1.4bar which does leave you open to squeeze more if you wanted.
Hi there
I love the looks of the R34 GTR, best looking Skyline ever and I had the pleasure of having one for about 5-6 weeks which was stage 1 tuned too 420BHP. It was a good car and easy to drive fast, but its first for fuel was insane, like averaged 12MPG and they are getting on now.
Problem with the other EVO's is they use different less responsive turbines. The EVO 9 MR FQ 360 has a lightweight turbine meaning its a very responsive turbo that comes on full chat at like 3000RPM, wheras the other EVO's peak torque is not reached until 5000RPM resulting in not as good to drive.
So its really got to be an MR FQ 360 or possibly an EVO 9 GT.
i do have a soft spot for skylines, i aint seen anything on the road with more presance for less than 100k.
we get a few round here with middlehurst just up the road.
what about an old scooby? a 22b wont lose you any money and nothing sounds better imo.
i dont think either of those evos will dissapoint tbh tho.
This is rather nice! and is it just me or has the windscreen, wing mirror area got a mustangy feel to it?! :coat
http://cdn.images.pistonheads.com/aimg/1185/1185357-1.jpg
I've always liked the look of the Nissan GTR.. No idea what its like to drive tho :lol:
I've always liked the look of the Nissan GTR.. No idea what its like to drive tho :lol:
Hi there
They are all good to drive and very easy to drive fast due to the advanced computers/diffs etc.
They do drink fuel and should one break out of warranty could get very expensive.
This would be my perfect car!
Not sure what an older year similiar version would cost tho!
http://www.zcars.com.au/images/audi-rs6-avant12.jpg
Audi Abt RS6 Avant CAR review
29 December 2009 16:30
For most people, you’d think an all-wheel drive estate with 572bhp and 479lb ft of torque was quite enough. Not German tuner Abt, which has tweaked the Audi RS6 to 690bhp and 590lb ft.
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Drives/Search-Results/First-drives/Audi-Abt-RS6-Avant-CAR-review/
This would be my perfect car!
Not sure what an older year similiar version would cost tho!
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/upload/7842/images/001AudiRs6drvid.jpg
Audi Abt RS6 Avant CAR review
29 December 2009 16:30
For most people, you’d think an all-wheel drive estate with 572bhp and 479lb ft of torque was quite enough. Not German tuner Abt, which has tweaked the Audi RS6 to 690bhp and 590lb ft.
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Drives/Search-Results/First-drives/Audi-Abt-RS6-Avant-CAR-review/
You do like your estates dont you Coiler.. Is this to help woady move those boddies to & from his shed?? :eek:
You do like your estates dont you Coiler.. Is this to help woady move those boddies to & from his shed?? :eek:
Look wicked VS Saloon models in general. :clap
Can fit the mountain bike in the boot without taking the wheels off :clap
Oh and space for around x20 binbags with the rear seats down :cop:
Look wicked VS Saloon models in general. :clap
Can fit the mountain bike in the boot without taking the wheels off :clap
Oh and space for around x20 binbags with the rear seats down :cop:
Not all estates do imo and i'm sure most people would agree on that.
and i know it was the real reason behind the estate regards the bin bags lol
Not all estates do imo and i'm sure most people would agree on that.
and i know it was the real reason behind the estate regards the bin bags lol
I heard Mr Woad had upgraded his Punto last week :surprised:
http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/pix/trucks/len_rogers/apr2002/foden_biffa.jpg
HI there
Driven the RS4 Avant and RS4 Saloon, good performance, great noise and awsome build quality. But to be honest I hated the handling, felt disconnected and turn in and mid corner grip seemed somewhat lacking compared to other cars I had.
I have a test corner and the RS4 could only manage 55mph before it started to understeer. To put that in comparison the R34 GTR I had managed 60mph with ease, the Mustang could hit 60MPH but it was on the edge and you knew it. The CSL could do hit 65-70mph.
InvaderGIR
11-01-10, 11:02
For you I'd say;
Mitsubishi EVO 9 FQ 360 - Good car for modifications to keep you busy, power and handling increases are cheap and easy (in comparison to some cars), would mean keeping the 306 is a very good idea as then you have a toy and an every day car.
BMW E46 M3 CSL - Not a massive scope at all for modifications really if you plan on having a car to do some on. Brilliant cars though, really liked the old one (but still prefer the 'stang to the CSL), but it does seem almost an every day car, verging on removal of the 306, but I expect MPG etc. would disagree. :p
Nissan 370Z - Could be an interesting one too really, a bit like the Evo in the sense you should be able to have some fun with it, but I see it as an every day car really, so no need for the 306.
Audi A5 3.0 TDI Quattro - Just a quick saloon, nothing overly special about them to be honest. Generic car for generic uses, pointless having that and the 306 for sure.
Porsche Cayman S - Just not something that I'd expect to see you drive at all and doesn't seem the sort of car you'd own from the time that I've known you and having seen your history.
I heard Mr Woad had upgraded his Punto last week :surprised:
http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/pix/trucks/len_rogers/apr2002/foden_biffa.jpg
:lol: :lol: :lol: :chairfall:
I think he's got ideas for a new shed too...
http://blog.lib.umn.edu/evans391/architecture/Garbage_landfill.jpg
I think he's got ideas for a new shed too...
http://blog.lib.umn.edu/evans391/architecture/Garbage_landfill.jpg
Theres bodies all over the shop :chairfall:
Get the M3 and put a HPF Turbo converstion on it..
http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/ViewPartDescription.asp?Brand=HorsepowerFreaks&Subcategory=Turbo_Kits&Details=E46_M3
InvaderGIR
11-01-10, 12:50
Get the M3 and put a HPF Turbo converstion on it..
http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/ViewPartDescription.asp?Brand=HorsepowerFreaks&Subcategory=Turbo_Kits&Details=E46_M3
Minor point being that's a US/EU kit, UK cars can't/aren't turboed due to positions of bits and costs.
Forgive me if its a stupid question.. But what differentiates an EU model from a UK model?
The side the steering wheel is on :D :lol:
InvaderGIR
11-01-10, 13:51
Forgive me if its a stupid question.. But what differentiates an EU model from a UK model?
Certainly with the e36 (not so sure about the e46) the steering column is in the way of where the turbo would usually go on a US/EU car making it impossible/pointless to do with a UK car as the routing you'd have to do on the exhaust just isn't worth it as you'll lose pressure if you can manage fabricate a system that could work.
The costs of mods on BMWs far outweighs the gains for the most part though.
Some of the kits are RHD kits so there should'nt be an issue if you buy the correct kit. Also GIBBO is loaded ;)
I'd go with the EVO, have always liked them!
Have you had a look at the new skylines? Fantastic car if you can afford one.
Have you had a look at the new skylines? Fantastic car if you can afford one.
Hi there
Yep lovely cars and impressive indeed. I can't quite put my finger on it but its not a car I'd go for. If I was spending that kind of money I know its slower and less capable but I'd take Audi R8 everytime. :)
Erm it better be the Evo or the CSL as the others are just **** in terms of what you want from a car
Erm it better be the Evo or the CSL as the others are just **** in terms of what you want from a car
Hi there
Am thinking CSL is the best car with EVO MR FQ360 a very close 2nd.
I've had a CSL before, so once I decide to let go of the Mustang its going to be an EVO MR FQ360 and time to enjoy some playstation style driving. :D
time to enjoy some playstation style driving. :D
Is that with damage on or off?
not the CSL as you've already had one & I can't help but think you'll just want the Mustang again if you get that :p
As an every day car the Audi wins hands down for me, however if you are sticking with your cheap run about for the week and looking for a car for evenings and weekends I would personally go for the Cayman
Andrew Moore
19-01-10, 22:24
I still think EVO... but i would try and find a mint R33 GTR v-spec... Some of those bad boys are tootling round at a happy 1200bhp... Not just quick, EPIC quick!
Andy
Why would you sell a mustang?! :O Those things are so cool. There was one parked outside a house at the end of my street and it always caught people's eyes :D
That said.. got to be the Porsche if just that list - otherwise.. Alfa all the way!
Alfa all the way!
there's only one problem with that, I think he wants to be able to drive it daily.
LOL
Andrew Moore
19-01-10, 22:34
there's only one problem with that, I think he wants to be able to drive it daily.
LOL
lol :clap
They are a 4 days a week car really arnt they :rolleyes:
Andy
there's only one problem with that, I think he wants to be able to drive it daily.
LOL
Haha if I had an Alfa I would just sit there and stroke it. Who cares about driving something that beautiful? :P
I still think EVO... but i would try and find a mint R33 GTR v-spec... Some of those bad boys are tootling round at a happy 1200bhp... Not just quick, EPIC quick!
Andy
Hi there
I just enjoyed the FQ 360 I drove a lot, the turbo surge is very impressive and stomach churning, just how a turbo should feel and the FQ 360 suffers very little lag due to MIVEC engine, the tips on the turbo and the HKS remap that brings the full 363lb/ft at 3200rpm. Plus it will be interesting to see just how grippy they are and how well they do drift. :D
Not much for R33 GTR, however R34 GTR yes, gorgeous cars but I had one for 6 weeks with 420BHP and yeah it was nice but not as capable as an EVO or the CSL, plus it drank fuel something like circa 12MPG and if one should break big big bills.
Good thing about an FQ360 they are 2007/2008 cars so still got warranty and 23k gets you one with sub 10k on the clock or I could spend 26k and get an X but will drive an X as its said the IX is the better drive.
I'd say my vote would go with the BMW or audi as they have a certain elegance about them :)
I'd say my vote would go with the BMW or audi as they have a certain elegance about them :)
Hi there
Completely understand that, they both ooze quality and class, especially the A5 and CSL. :)
But want to try something new, if the EVO bores me I can easily sell it on and then just get myself a spot on CSL.
u just cant beat the smile that a jap rally car gives u went the boost kicks in :D
Andrew Moore
19-01-10, 23:28
u just cant beat the smile that a jap rally car gives u went the boost kicks in :D
Oh but you can... Caterham 7 on busa turbo :P
Andy
Oh but you can... Caterham 7 on busa turbo :P
Andy
I have to admit... That does sound like fun lol.
Andrew Moore
19-01-10, 23:40
It certainly is! Problem was I was sat next to a fat bloke in a tank top and shorts in the blistering summer heat and the proximity was just too much at one point.. I wasnt sure if i felt sick from being thrown round a track at break neck speed or because of the wet spats I got in my face from his pitts...
Andy
Ahhhhh noooo that is 'orrid.
I used to go to the kit car shows, those Westfield things are rapid (it's like a kit car Caterham). I almost bit the bullet years ago & went the kit car way, after much planning (I do that) space became an issue.
I know it's sad but I always liked the look of the AC Cobra, there was a prog on sky where a bloke built a kit one, made me very interested again.....then we had another baby lol.
Out of the cars listed I would go for the Audi or the BM, they just have more class imho.
It certainly is! Problem was I was sat next to a fat bloke in a tank top and shorts in the blistering summer heat and the proximity was just too much at one point.. I wasnt sure if i felt sick from being thrown round a track at break neck speed or because of the wet spats I got in my face from his pitts...
Andy
:sick:
bah never saw that smiley or would have used it.
Hi there
Am thinking CSL is the best car with EVO MR FQ360 a very close 2nd.
I've had a CSL before, so once I decide to let go of the Mustang its going to be an EVO MR FQ360 and time to enjoy some playstation style driving. :D
I know what you want from the car and what it would be used for so the others would bore you I think. Ellegance is ok and all but the smile an evo puts on your face is so much better than looking like a ponce with a blue tooth earpiece driving round the m25
Evo or the CSL, I would probably go Evo but I would have to drive both first. I would also consider the newer Evo because servicing might be a problem every 4500 miles.
Evo or the CSL, I would probably go Evo but I would have to drive both first. I would also consider the newer Evo because servicing might be a problem every 4500 miles.
Hi there
I am use to servicing my cars every 3000 miles. Because I just like to keep things in tip top shape.
Even the 306 Diesel, it might be a cheap car but it gets only the best and well looked after. :)
I think you will end up with the EVO, don't forget to post some pics when you take the leap ;)
Please get a silver one , Im getting sick of detailing black cars :lol:
Please get a silver one , Im getting sick of detailing black cars :lol:
Aim is gunmetal grey. :)
Sweet that will do me , nice easy colour to work on , why you think I got a silver type R , Only cleaned it once since I got it :lol:
Aim is gunmetal grey. :)
Best colour in my oppinion :)
Sweet that will do me , nice easy colour to work on , why you think I got a silver type R , Only cleaned it once since I got it :lol:
I think that's just called lazy? :rofl:
I think that's just called lazy? :rofl:
It takes me a day and I mean a full day to clean a car , But it lasts a long time and looks pretty good Im sure you will agree :clap
Don't drive :p......but Audi's are class :)
Err, you're considering selling the 'stang for a CSL *again*? :)
It takes me a day and I mean a full day to clean a car , But it lasts a long time and looks pretty good Im sure you will agree :clapWhere do you live - fancy doing mine!? :lol: :lol:
The Alfa could do with a clean :) if you doing the rounds
Would have to be big rounds to get both of us in.. Although, you're more then welcome if you fancy a road trip! :lol:
Hey Gibbo, how about a T350?
I know you like TVR styling and it would definitely be more of an eye catching choice
Hey Gibbo, how about a T350?
I know you like TVR styling and it would definitely be more of an eye catching choice
Hi there
I only like the Sagaris.
Though I think a TVR would be very similar to Mustang to actually drive, very raw, lots of power, RWD etc.
Only issue with TVR would be shabby build quality and reliability.
very raw, lots of power, RWD etc.exactly :p That's what you go for usually go for
You not considered the Z06 again?
Couldnt afford me guys :p
Personally I cant see you keeping any of these for very long as you seem to like to tinker with your cars and you probably wont have the tweak factor in any of them. Youve already owned a CSL before, so is it really worth having another one?
Whilst they can be expensive if they break, I do agree with the Skyline option. Its got the geeky handling and the potential for playing with (Albeit expensive to mod IIRC). Another option for the Evos...have you thought about buying a slightly older one for a bit less cash and tipping some money into it? Sure it wont give you the potential to make as much cash back, but it would allow you to have more flexibility when you come to playing with mods.
Personally I cant see you keeping any of these for very long as you seem to like to tinker with your cars and you probably wont have the tweak factor in any of them. Youve already owned a CSL before, so is it really worth having another one?
Whilst they can be expensive if they break, I do agree with the Skyline option. Its got the geeky handling and the potential for playing with (Albeit expensive to mod IIRC). Another option for the Evos...have you thought about buying a slightly older one for a bit less cash and tipping some money into it? Sure it wont give you the potential to make as much cash back, but it would allow you to have more flexibility when you come to playing with mods.
Hi there
Problem is m8 I absolutely hate old EVO's when it comes to driving them. Infact I am not even much for the newer lesser models.
The problem with the older EVO's, they don't have MIVEC which makes quite a difference to low down grunt and they uses less responsive turbos. For example an EVO 8 with 360BHP hits peak torque around 5200-5500rpm so all the power is right at the top of the rev band.
Put it this way I drove an EVO 8 with 367BHP with 18,000 miles on the clock and then afterwards I drove an EVO 9 FQ 360 with 600 miles on the clock and the difference was huge, one was horrible and felt poorly put together and the other was a joy to drive and felt solid.
I since drove further 8's and well compared to the 9 they are not a nice drive.
The 9 MR FQ 360 hits 367lb/ft at just 3200rpm and the turbo is spooling from 2500rpm and along with the MIVEC it will pick up quite well from as little as 2000rpm and once its spooled it also holds onto that boost all the way to around 6500rpm, which let me assure you feels rather fantastic to experience the turbo rush for so long, makes it feel more like a 500BHP motor. :)
Even the less FQ in the 9 series are better than the 8's but the FQ 360 is really quite a car and its all down to the different blades the turbo uses and the HKS remap which for whatever reason seems not possible to get on the lower models.
Every one says buy say an EVO 9 FQ 300 and just remap it too 400/400 which is fine but look at the power graphs, peak torque is at 4400rpm even on those.
So its gotta be the FQ 360 and the 9 model is best and you can push them too 390/390 with ease keeping peak torque at 3200rpm area. :)
EVO 9 without a doubt, the other cars are either a bit pants in my opinion or too flashy
EDIT: Actually, looking again, i do quite like the Audi and the BMW, but i would still choose the Mitzi
Nissan or porsche.
Same here - I can't make up mind which though.
how is this not flashy lol...
http://cdn.images.pistonheads.com/aimg/1390/1390431-1.jpg
Its a ****in good car and in my opinion more down to earth than the others. The porsche and Nissan for example, are just too flashy, and if i was driving around in them i would just feel like a ****.
Whereas the Mitzi is more common, and ****in fun to drive :P
If it were me id go for the 370z as there probably rarist of the lot :) only saying that as i had a 350z and would love a 370z one day
theelusiveyoda
02-02-10, 11:06
i have had a 350z and know have a evo 9 i would suggest either the evo or the 370z, the evo has better build quaility and the 350z has better gearbox and clutch but the 350z does like going sideways abit to much, i would still have my 350z if i didnt write it off.
Either the Evo for pure speed or I'd go with the Audi.
Love the current Audi's, very nice cars & my brother-in-law has a Q2 estate which is very nice. Even if he does tend to forget to put the handbrake on :(
The porsche looks fuggly, apparently the mitsu has a *terrible* turbo-lag, although I've never driven one. I've always been a bmw man, their engines are second-to-none, although I think it looks a bit bland...maybe I should say 'understated' lol.
W.
i have had a 350z and know have a evo 9 i would suggest either the evo or the 370z, the evo has better build quaility and the 350z has better gearbox and clutch but the 350z does like going sideways abit to much, i would still have my 350z if i didnt write it off.
OOoops have to admit in the wet the 350z could be a little hairy at times but in the dry it just gripped and gripped :)
theelusiveyoda
02-02-10, 21:44
i had larger wheels as well as better suppension so that probarbly changed the grip that plus im used to 4wd.
I think the very fact you've already had a CSL and yet have it in the shortlist possibly answers your question?
This time, add a supercharger.... ;)
gnNUESDgaEI
You you want to.... :D
Hi there
I've never seen one boy racer in a Mustang. :p
But agreed the EVO does have an image of boy racer or lunatic, its the lunatic side that attracts me to it. :D
EVO all the way gibbo
M3 CSL would be my choice.
HI there
Pretty much decision is made. :D
2008/2009 EVO X GSR FQ-330 5-Speed Manual
Then shortly afterwards visit to TRL for TRL Exhaust, fuel pump and circa 410BHP / 420Lb/Ft later. :D
Got taken out in an X FQ-330 Friday by a rally driver and needless to say impressive, upon further investigation all the X's hit peak torque at 3500rpm but the handling on the X certainly seems better and more progressive compared to the 9.
Other plus point is all the X's use the same turbo, except the 400, so what this means you can buy any X and get in the region of 400 horses from one safely. I am going with an FQ-330 as it has hardpipe kit, downpipe, HKS other bits already done. So just a simple remap would take it toowards 390BHP / 380Ft/Lb. Then if I want more add a TRL exhaust and fuel system for £1300ish results in 410BHP / 420-440Lb/ft with boost coming on strong from 2500rpm. :D
theelusiveyoda
21-02-10, 18:13
how much is that baby costing you?
HI there
Pretty much decision is made. :D
2008/2009 EVO X GSR FQ-330 5-Speed Manual
Then shortly afterwards visit to TRL for TRL Exhaust, fuel pump and circa 410BHP / 420Lb/Ft later. :D
Got taken out in an X FQ-330 Friday by a rally driver and needless to say impressive, upon further investigation all the X's hit peak torque at 3500rpm but the handling on the X certainly seems better and more progressive compared to the 9.
Other plus point is all the X's use the same turbo, except the 400, so what this means you can buy any X and get in the region of 400 horses from one safely. I am going with an FQ-330 as it has hardpipe kit, downpipe, HKS other bits already done. So just a simple remap would take it toowards 390BHP / 380Ft/Lb. Then if I want more add a TRL exhaust and fuel system for £1300ish results in 410BHP / 420-440Lb/ft with boost coming on strong from 2500rpm. :D
Must suck kids in from the side of the road with the ammount of boost it will be running!:lol:
Must suck kids in from the side of the road with the ammount of boost it will be running!:lol:
Oh yes, gotta be done, gotta have a turbo that can turn my stomach and the passengers. :D
theelusiveyoda
21-02-10, 19:19
im looking to get a turbo for my 9 but the insuarance incresases will cost more than half the car does.
Hi there
Test driving an X FQ-360 tomorrow. :D
matty-hodgson
27-02-10, 17:55
Make sure you empty your bowels before you go for the test drive, not during ;)
How did it go Gibbo? Have you got an ASBO yet?:lol:
How did it go Gibbo? Have you got an ASBO yet?:lol:
Hi there
Rather impressive indeed, more refined compared to the older 9 but the Turbo on the X feels just as imressive and really surges from 3500rpm. :D
Now just got some thinking to do. :)
Andrew Moore
28-02-10, 20:36
Fair bit of tinkering to be had out of that engine too... do it ;)
Andy
I would buy the M3 CSL ...I'm not sure a diesel Audi is really going to give you anything like the experience a CSL will.
Hi there
New car on the drive. :D
Now the drive has well over 1000BHP sat on it, LOL. :D
That was quick! Must have been a cash job:lol:
What colour is it?
When do you get your ASBO?
more like when do you lose your licence lol
more like when do you lose your licence lol
Hi there
Yep need to be careful indeed, makes going to quick to easy.
how does it compare to the beast though?
how does it compare to the beast though?
Hi there
Way to early to tell.
But as a quick comparison, the Mustang makes a much better noise and has a better driving position and acclerates a lot quicker.
But the Mitsubishi has better seats, lots of fancy mod cons and silly amounts of grip and seems to cruise quite happily at low speeds.
At the moment the car is a bit tatty for my standards as I told Mitsubishi not to clean it but the next dry weekend it shall get a damn good wash and valet.
Then when things get warmer its getting details as the previous owner has been carefull so lots of swirls and faint scratches all of which will come out just needs a good few hours work.
A few hours , what you think I am :lol:
When do you get your ASBO?no ASBO, it's tame :p
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