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Gibbo
20-12-09, 17:55
Hi there

Well here is the car, given her a bit of a clean, was hoping to wax her but with the snow that shall have to wait until another day, still its come up quite well for an old car:-

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/7662/pug7.jpg

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/2553/pug8.jpg

http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/6321/pug6.jpg

http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/8835/pug5.jpg

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/6208/pug2w.jpg

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/60/pug1.jpg

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/7228/pug3.jpg

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/6494/pug4.jpg

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/3743/pug9.jpg








Car drives very well and everything works. Its saving me a small fortune on fuel, not worked it out yet but seems to be returning around 50MPG with ease, Can't complain for £900. :)
Will
20-12-09, 18:28
I WANT ONE :clap
DoubleTop
20-12-09, 19:11
at that price, it'll pay for itself before you know it !

Nice.

DT.
Skywalker
20-12-09, 22:03
What a piece of crap :popcorn:
El Wayneo
20-12-09, 22:14
What a piece of crap :popcorn:

Says you and your one arm, at least he knew who his dad was, SkyWalker!
{SAS}TB
20-12-09, 22:16
lol ive had three of these over the years - nicest was a black M-Reg D-Turbo about 9 years ago - great cars TBH :D
Skywalker
20-12-09, 22:21
You dare turn up on my doorstep for me to detail that thing Gibs and I will set alight to it and put £30 in your pocket to get a train home :lol:



Says you and your one arm, at least he knew who his dad was, SkyWalker!

My one arm still managed to impregnate your mum from the other side of the room cause I didnt actually want to touch her :ss
Gibbo
20-12-09, 23:17
What a piece of crap :popcorn:

Hi there

So says the man who is about to buy a van with seats in it. :p

I still have the Stang for when I want to experience a bit of power and single figure MPG levels. :D
Skywalker
21-12-09, 10:56
Yeah but it has a 2.8 V8 in it (just to get it moving) and I still have my fun car which is going soon to make way for something more fun :closet
Gibbo
21-12-09, 11:31
Yeah but it has a 2.8 V8 in it (just to get it moving) and I still have my fun car which is going soon to make way for something more fun :closet

Hi there

That van has a V8 in it?
If so I hope it sounds like a V8 and the tuning potential must be huge. :D

More fun that the ATR, sounds interesting, what you getting?
Skywalker
21-12-09, 21:15
So sorry I ment a V6 :redface:

New car if it pulls off not FWD and has about 335bhp and twice the torque at about 350lb torque I think thats the correct figures :cool:
Monkey
21-12-09, 21:22
Would rather have a Golf, Mk1, 2 or 3

http://i319.photobucket.com/albums/mm449/DDevilMonkey_666/P1010013.jpg
^^^^^^^
My Brother's :P

It's changed a fair bit since that picture was taken though. Spare wheel and jerry can on the back window, and its been painted black

Fast as fo-ok, and it does about a million miles to the gallon, plus the sound system is insane
Skywalker
21-12-09, 21:42
Hold **** batman , resize the pic please my 50 inch screen still cant fit it on lol
PeterStoba
21-12-09, 23:29
What the hell is that
M4T VW
21-12-09, 23:40
How dare you kill a golf like that, And a MK3 of all ones!
Doesnt look like a VR6 to me so its either a 1.4 or 2.0 8V, Both are slow...

A van with seats in and a V6? Must be a VW Transporter?
Skywalker
22-12-09, 00:09
Got to be a merc Mat ;)

Guess on the other one as its more fun that a van with seats lol
Aaron
22-12-09, 00:34
That golf is hilarious! :lol:

And that pug looks quite tidy for a T reg, Gibbo! :)
El Wayneo
22-12-09, 07:22
Nice car for £900.
Monkey
22-12-09, 07:34
How dare you kill a golf like that, And a MK3 of all ones!
Doesnt look like a VR6 to me so its either a 1.4 or 2.0 8V, Both are slow...

A van with seats in and a V6? Must be a VW Transporter?
Its a 1.9 diesel actually, does 130 easily, porches suspension and lowered as you can see from the pic.

What happened was my eldest brother borrowed it a fair few Christmases ago and dropped it down a ditch about a mile away from home :P

The only thing that broke was the obvious few dints down the side and the wing mirror, wasnt worth doing it up and selling it, and its such a good car, he decided to rat it, and its ****in fun! should see the looks you get driving around town, especially when we wear our gass masks, goggles and jump suits
coiler
22-12-09, 09:44
Whats happened to the back window! LOL

I used to have a 1995 Golf, it was built like a tank - this pic reinforces that
Skywalker
22-12-09, 10:40
Either that or its a rough neibourhood and scared someones going to steal the retro seats in there and put them in a bus to replace the ones the school kids set alight to with there fags
M4T VW
22-12-09, 10:57
Its a 1.9 diesel actually, does 130 easily, porches suspension and lowered as you can see from the pic.

Porsche suspension, I dont think so. Not been done on a Golf. Might be Porsche brakes?

1.9 PD is a good engine, All at the top end though.

MK3 should have never been given a "GTI" badge, It was too big and heavy.
Thats why i put an R32 in ours:clap
Aaron
22-12-09, 11:01
I still wouldnt say no to a MK3 GTi! :lol:
coiler
22-12-09, 11:22
I didn't know the MK3's had the 1.9 tdi PD engines.

Though the pumpe duse started around 2001?
M4T VW
22-12-09, 12:42
I still wouldnt say no to a MK3 GTi! :lol:

They did a 2.0 8V and a 2.0 16V.
16V is more fun but 8V has more torque.

If you want a MK3 go for the VR6. No contest!
Aaron
22-12-09, 12:53
If I went for any, I'd go for a Mk2 or a Mk5 - 2, because its just a great car.. But also, the guy who drums for The Charlatans took me out in his Mk5 GTi a while ago, and its great.. Still performs well, but such a nice inside too! :D
Gibbo
22-12-09, 13:02
If I went for any, I'd go for a Mk2 or a Mk5 - 2, because its just a great car.. But also, the guy who drums for The Charlatans took me out in his Mk5 GTi a while ago, and its great.. Still performs well, but such a nice inside too! :D

Hi there

The MK2 16v are a favourite at track days as the more revvy nature of the 16v engine suits track work and they are bullit proof.

For what I was willing to spend the Golf Diesels with PD engines were a lot more than 1k unless they were knackered, hence why I went with the HDI from the French instead.
M4T VW
22-12-09, 13:26
MK2 16v is a great track car, I nearly bought one but wanted more power to start with.

Just finished off my mates MK1 20VT, Now thats rapid.
Gibbo
23-12-09, 13:27
Hi there

Well I filled the tank up this morning from nearly empty with Shell Vpower Diesel. Can't really notice any difference on performance yet, supposedly takes 2-3 tanks to notice but what I did notice was how much smoother the car felt running on this fuel.

Before when engines revs were between 1000-1200rpm the car would get the diesel shake basically engine labouring wheras now it remains smooth.

Once I am down to 3/4 of a tank gonna fill tank again and work out my MPG though it won't be took good as got stuck in slow moving traffic on the A34 this morning for ages due to sections of road not been treated and icing over so everyone was barely moving.
M4T VW
23-12-09, 17:43
Why go for vpower? I thought this was meant to save money.
It will work perfectly well on the regular stuff you know;)
Biodoid
23-12-09, 19:47
as we r past page 1 of the thread..hijack time again lol

heres a vid of mine :) but dont pay attention to the right dial ;)

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xbm8b3_evo-x-sst_auto
coiler
23-12-09, 19:52
as we r past page 1 of the thread..hijack time again lol

heres a vid of mine :) but dont pay attention to the right dial ;)

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xbm8b3_evo-x-sst_auto


Whats the 0-60 ? WOW :surprised:

and whats the chiming noise?
Aleksandr
23-12-09, 20:02
I couldn't help it, i looked at the right dial :ss
Biodoid
23-12-09, 20:07
0-60 about 4 sec

chime = seatbelt warning (had it on but didnt click it into place until just before the junction)
marsey99
23-12-09, 20:21
with the traction on that you took off like a bullet man :clap

what did the mpg drop to tho :eek:
Gibbo
23-12-09, 20:28
as we r past page 1 of the thread..hijack time again lol

heres a vid of mine :) but dont pay attention to the right dial ;)

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xbm8b3_evo-x-sst_auto

Hi there

Seems to run out of puff past 80mph?

Watching the video it seems to take a while to go from 80mph too 100mph and slow again past that, well not slow but not quick either, at a guess is it a 300BHP EVO or a tad over 300BHP?

Its a lot faster than the 306HDI for sure, but to give you an idea of the Mustang, in the time it takes yours to go from 100-120mph mine the Stang would be at 150mph. :D
80-100mph in the Mustang takes just over 1s :D

You wanna be careful posting video up though, it shows you speeding on a public road, I've heard all kinds of bad stuff like the internet police prosecuting people, so be careful m8.
Gibbo
23-12-09, 20:32
Why go for vpower? I thought this was meant to save money.
It will work perfectly well on the regular stuff you know;)

Hi m8

I want the car in tip top shape and heard good things about Vpower Diesel helping clean the injectors, make engine run smoother without causing harm etc.

So my view is give the car 2-3 tankfuls of Vpower to run through to clean everything and then go back to normal diesel unless of course the car runs that much better on the Vpower, I have noticed the car is a lot lot smoother on the Vpower than the usual Shell Diesel extra stuff and if rumours are right that Vpower boost MPG then the extra cost might balance itself out which would be worth it alone for the smoother running.

I timed 30-70mph in the 306HDI in 3rd gear and it was a shocking 12.5s LOL :eek:

Compare that to the Mustang which does 30-70mph in 2.75s :D
Biodoid
23-12-09, 20:33
that was in auto mode and wasnt going totally crazy didn't keep it floored was just a quick vid of it..though it's not bad for a 2L engine :)
marsey99
23-12-09, 20:33
i thought it was an import so the big numbers are kph :p
Biodoid
23-12-09, 20:35
:p pfft lol
M4T VW
23-12-09, 23:39
Gibbo, What does the Mustang top out at?

I had my Polo sideways in my unit carpark today but it regained traction pretty quick even though its slippy as anything. Not sure what tyres are on it but i bet they were built for ecomomy and not safety!
Gibbo
23-12-09, 23:44
Gibbo, What does the Mustang top out at?

I had my Polo sideways in my unit carpark today but it regained traction pretty quick even though its slippy as anything. Not sure what tyres are on it but i bet they were built for ecomomy and not safety!


Hi m8

She accelerates in 4th to 165mph quite fast, basically acceleration does not die of at all in 4th, for example I think 60-130mph is something like 8.5s and that rate of acceleration does not die off.

I've never pushed in 5th with it been an overdrive gear, as its geared for 240mph, Saleen reckon they can hit 200mph but Id not want to go that fast in one as they are not build for top end speed but I reckon one could hit 180ish due to the sheer power.
Aleksandr
23-12-09, 23:51
hehe any good around the twisties though, being a yank tank and all that?


Only joshing, me i'm not jealous at all. ;)
Gibbo
23-12-09, 23:53
hehe any good around the twisties though, being a yank tank and all that?


Only joshing, me i'm not jealous at all. ;)

Its far from standard on the suspension side. :D

About on par with a stock E46 M3 and its no heavier than one either, but I have fitted fully adjustable suspension, shocks, arbs and a lot more, but all pretty cheap due to parts mass produced. :)
M4T VW
24-12-09, 00:00
Pretty simular specs to the Porsche then, Will do 180mph easy and handles well!:D

I would love an old Mustang, mmmm Elenor:cool:
Aleksandr
24-12-09, 08:41
Its far from standard on the suspension side. :D

About on par with a stock E46 M3 and its no heavier than one either, but I have fitted fully adjustable suspension, shocks, arbs and a lot more, but all pretty cheap due to parts mass produced. :)

Nice.....is there anything that HASN'T been upgraded in some way?


I bet even the glass has been replaced with lightweight plexiglass or something :D
Gibbo
24-12-09, 08:45
Nice.....is there anything that HASN'T been upgraded in some way?


I bet even the glass has been replaced with lightweight plexiglass or something :D

Hi there

Done absolutely nothing to the way the car looks.

But engine got a supercharger added, CAI, LT Headers, Smaller pulleys, bigger injectors, colder spark plugs, bigger MAF, uprated fuel pump and probably some bits I missed.

Suspension well adjustable shocks all round, Saleen springs, adjustable thicker front anti-roll bar, thicker rear anti-roll bar, engine lowering mounts, engine lower bracing, uprated ball joints, bumpsteer kit, caster/camber/toe adjustable top mounts, adjustable lower control arms, adjuster upper arm, adjustable panhard bar, panhard brace, Shelby GT500 brakes with DS2500 pads probably some stuff I missed. Suspension GEO setup by Chris Franklin from Centre of Gravity.
Aleksandr
24-12-09, 10:05
Done A LOT to improve the handling then by the sound of it, thats a problem with American cars, they don't seem to be set up for anything other than straight roads from the factory, at least thats the impression i get.
Gibbo
24-12-09, 10:09
Done A LOT to improve the handling then by the sound of it, thats a problem with American cars, they don't seem to be set up for anything other than straight roads from the factory, at least thats the impression i get.

HI there

A stock Mustang V6 is terrible and I mean terrible.

A stock Mustang V8 GT is not that bad. But to make it a lot better takes about £1000, for shocks, springs, roll bars, big transformation. Ford will sell you a Mustang now with this kit fitted at factory (Trak Pack) which makes a big improvement or just buy a Roush that basically has it from factory.

Then if you want more you can do as I've done and go crazy. :D
coiler
24-12-09, 11:03
Bio is there a lot of road noise at 50-100? or is it just the camera picking it up excessively?

Impressive never the less!

Gibbo we need a vid from the ****pit of the stang! ;)

I use Redex diesel which really clears all the soot out when using high revs. Usually after putting some in will use a lower gear than normal eg. 4th gear @ 70mph etc
Gibbo
24-12-09, 11:10
Bio is there a lot of road noise at 50-100? or is it just the camera picking it up excessively?

Impressive never the less!

Gibbo we need a vid from the ****pit of the stang! ;)

I use Redex diesel which really clears all the soot out when using high revs. Usually after putting some in will use a lower gear than normal eg. 4th gear @ 70mph etc


HI m8

I shall find an old 30-70mph video from when the car was 500BHP which I think does it in 3.2s but I never do above 70mph on public roads, let alone film it. ;)

Plus for my performance stats I use proper equipment (Racelogic Vbox) so that way there is no discrepencies of speedo error, human error etc. etc.
Monkey
24-12-09, 13:22
Either that or its a rough neibourhood and scared someones going to steal the retro seats in there and put them in a bus to replace the ones the school kids set alight to with there fags
Ha, living 8 miles from the nearest town is hardly a rough neighbourhood :P


Porsche suspension, I dont think so. Not been done on a Golf. Might be Porsche brakes?

1.9 PD is a good engine, All at the top end though.

MK3 should have never been given a "GTI" badge, It was too big and heavy.
Thats why i put an R32 in ours:clap
I can assure you it does.

It sets off quick enough :P

And the Mk3's arent that much heavier that a Mk2 really, and its funny you should say about changin the engine cos he has a 4x4 audi something hes gonna be dropping in it this summer
Biodoid
24-12-09, 18:51
just cam picking it cos I had window open as well lol
Monkey
24-12-09, 20:24
I'm pretty sure I made a post here earlier today... server screw up or did someone delete it? :P
M4T VW
24-12-09, 21:16
HI m8

I shall find an old 30-70mph video from when the car was 500BHP which I think does it in 3.2s but I never do above 70mph on public roads, let alone film it. ;)

Plus for my performance stats I use proper equipment (Racelogic Vbox) so that way there is no discrepencies of speedo error, human error etc. etc.

Did your vbox come in a nice blue case?
Gibbo
24-12-09, 21:19
Did your vbox come in a nice blue case?

HI m8

Its the Racelogic Performance Box, one of these:-

http://www.performancebox.co.uk/overview.html
M4T VW
24-12-09, 22:58
I do the packaging for racelogic, Well i did but thats another story.

http://www.performancebox.co.uk/Images/case-open.jpg

http://www.performancebox.co.uk/Images/case.jpg
Gibbo
28-12-09, 20:51
HI there

Well I've just refilled my tank, worked out my MPG and it turns out I am getting 46.5MPG at the moment.

I am guessing thats about right, the car does not see any motorway miles, its all country roads, A34 dual carriage ways which you only get to travel a mile before slowing for roundabout and then Manchester traffic, plus that is this last week with the bad traffic due to snow and me giving it some from time to time.

I am guessing with new thermostat in place so engine gets hotter (upto normal temp) and more air in the tyres (running 5psi under due to snow for more grip) I might get closer to 50MPG especially when road conditions improve.

So am quite happy with that, its certainly a lot lot better than the 16-18MPG from the Mustang, so instead of spending approx £90 a week on fuel its now more like £30. £240 or there abouts a month saved. :D
coiler
29-12-09, 10:02
Thats not bad considering the colder ambient temps, winter diesel etc

Think my mpgs down to around 40 ish at the mo, loads of short journeys with engine not getting up to temp :(
Gibbo
30-12-09, 08:04
Hi there

Fear this power :D

http://www.dynolicious.com/results/b6ab47b2ab8e316d5efd46dd4a608d9b.html

http://www.dynolicious.com/results/b6ab47b2ab8e316d5efd46dd4a608d9b.jpg