View Full Version : UPDATE [03.01.07] FIXED! : New PC Won't Boot
I put together a new PC last night consisting of the following:
Motherboard
Foxconn P9657AA-8EKRS2H
Processor
Intel Core 2 Duo E6300
Memory
Corsair 1GB DDR2-667
Graphics Card
Radeon X1650XT
HDD
Seagate 320GB SATA2 16MB
DVD-RW
Liteon SATA
PSU
Jeantech Storm 700W-
+5V=30A
+3.3V=28A
+12V1=16A
+12V2=25A
+12V3=17A
-12V=0.5A
+5VSB=2.5A
This is the problem:
I press the power button on my case and the l.e.d's light up for a split second, the PSU fires up/light briefly comes on and all system fans briefly spin up before halting again. The power l.e.d on my case continues to blink slowly.
I tried the following steps to attempt to fix the problem (pressing power button between steps):
1. I checked all connections were present, correct and securely in place
2. I tried connecting the l.e.d cables different ways round
3. I moved the RAM from the closest slot to the CPU, to the 2nd closest (which in turn is now DIMM1, previously was in DIMM2 according to motherboard print!....)
4. Moved CMOS Jumper to clear for 20secs and back to normal position again
5. Disconnected 8-pin 12V cpu power connector and put in 4-pin 12V cpu power connector
6. Tried plugging in auxilliary graphics card power connector on motherboard
7. Tried connecting monitor though different it's other DVI socket (running through a DVI->VGA adapter either way)
I had to run out yesterday to get the Jeantech PSU from PC World because my Antec TrueBlue 480W didn't have the 4/8-pin 12V cpu power connection! The Jeantech set me back £80 and seems very well built and heavy so it feels like a quality PSU.
The only thing I can see, which I bloody hope isn't the problem, is it looks like I have ever so slightly damaged the corner of the motherboard whilst awkwardly installing it into my case. There doesn't seem to be any circuits on the surface - just plain colour coat. I would have thought if that was the problem it wouldn't power up at all. The E6300 should be supported - it is after all a C2D board, unless I have some sort of recent revision of it which isn't compatible?!
I need help getting this computer up and running. I can't do anything with it as it is and I'm hoping someone has any advice on the problem and how to fix it. I don't want to have to take it to a technician
Summary
Press case button->briefly powers up->everything seems to power down->power l.e.d blinks slowly.
My monitor stays blank.
It doesn't POST.
I think you're going to have to try mix and matching with spare parts to find out if somethings faulty.
Start with the RAM, swap it with some different stuff. If that doesn't do it, swap it with another CPU, assuming you have any other Duo CPU's anywhere. Carry on as above with everything. Sounds a pain, but If I had to take a guess, sound like either a PSU or CPU fault to me.
It's an absolute pain, but I've had to use that method quite a few times to fix PC's :(
Also, try a few other forums. I know futuremarks forums are great for hardware advice. Pretty much everyone that goes there is an overclocker, so have a lot of hardware knowledge.
[quote:6c74a5cf26=\"Barley\"]I think you're going to have to try mix and matching with spare parts to find out if somethings faulty.
Start with the RAM, swap it with some different stuff. If that doesn't do it, swap it with another CPU, assuming you have any other Duo CPU's anywhere. Carry on as above with everything. Sounds a pain, but If I had to take a guess, sound like either a PSU or CPU fault to me.
It's an absolute pain, but I've had to use that method quite a few times to fix PC's :(
Also, try a few other forums. I know futuremarks forums are great for hardware advice. Pretty much everyone that goes there is an overclocker, so have a lot of hardware knowledge.[/quote:6c74a5cf26]
I've got no spare parts and I don't want to start buying stuff :( I just tested the PSU in my other computer and it runs fine so that doesn't look to be the problem.
I'm really starting to think that the edge and my utter clumsiness has buggered up the board :( I'll put a photo up in a few mins
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/gregoroth/Greg/100_0315.jpg
That might not look too much of an issue but it looks it to me. I don't know how I managed to do that. :oops:
I think I've found the problem - the stupid motherboard sliding standoffs. I thought they were a bad idea when I first laid my eyes upon them.
Basically, my motherboard doesn't fit on the completely/properly and around the CPU area, I've discovered it's warping the motherboard. When I cast my eyes down, I just happened to notice that the graphics card isn't seated snugly in the PCI-E slot. The left side is sticking out a bit. I imagine this is what's giving me the 'no show' and blinking power l.e.d.
:evil:
[quote:79318faa85=\"Barley\"]*COUGHS* RMA *COUGHS* :D[/quote:79318faa85]
Lol, I don't think I'd get a replacement on a physically damaged motherboard.
[quote:d2e7c3ce0f=\"Gregoroth\"][quote:d2e7c3ce0f=\"Barley\"]*COUGHS* RMA *COUGHS* :D[/quote:d2e7c3ce0f]
Lol, I don't think I'd get a replacement on a physically damaged motherboard.[/quote:d2e7c3ce0f]
Hmmmm, blame the dog?
[quote:a5543e0755=\"Barley\"][quote:a5543e0755=\"Gregoroth\"][quote:a5543e0755=\"Barley\"]*COUGHS* RMA *COUGHS* :D[/quote:a5543e0755]
Lol, I don't think I'd get a replacement on a physically damaged motherboard.[/quote:a5543e0755]
Hmmmm, blame the dog?[/quote:a5543e0755]
Sure thing. 8)
Do you think it's possible that somehow the processor isn't seated corectly or something?
I tell you, I would at least know if it was a memory problem if that damn board had a 'speaker' header so I could hear something...
Do you know what a slow blinking light means? (Stays on for a 1sec, then off for 1 sec, repeat)
[quote:11ecf460a1=\"Gregoroth\"]I think I've found the problem - the stupid motherboard sliding standoffs. I thought they were a bad idea when I first laid my eyes upon them.
Basically, my motherboard doesn't fit on the completely/properly and around the CPU area, I've discovered it's warping the motherboard. When I cast my eyes down, I just happened to notice that the graphics card isn't seated snugly in the PCI-E slot. The left side is sticking out a bit. I imagine this is what's giving me the 'no show' and blinking power l.e.d.
:evil:[/quote:11ecf460a1]
What exactly is the problem with the sliding stand-off's? Are you saying that these are a different height to the fixed stand-off's?
They are very awkward to fit on. I couldn't fit them on by hand and they don't all completely fit on when installing in the case. They've permanently bent my motherboard.
Today, I tried powering my motherboard up outside of the case, sitting on it's cardboard box with cpu, video and ram installed and same problem. Fans briefly spin up, then come to a stop (not suddenly but gradually, like when you shut down your pc)
Will a computer boot/POST if there's no memory installed?
Your PC should boot without RAM or video card installed. Well, it should at least power on at a minimum! That blinking light usually indicates the system is in sleep or hibernate mode, so that is a strange one isn't it?
Usually, your problem is associated witht he PSU, it can't output enough power. But as you have replaced the PSU already, we can (almost) discount that. I say almost as it could be one of those rare occasions when you buy another duff one!
The only other item which i can think of, is the Mobo. What concerns me is the way you have somehow managed to warp the board, let alone the damaged corner! To warp the motherboard suggests that those stand-off's were incorrect for your case. There are different sizes in height and screw thread etc.
There are so many other things that may have happened. Shorting is a regular occurance, i.e. the backplate USB ports can have those little metal lugs enter into the actual USB ports on installation. Silly things like that can be completely missed and wreck an otherwise perfect installation!
The conclusion seems to be a dead mobo.
[quote:0d588c3cc1=\"Sleepy\"]Your PC should boot without RAM or video card installed. Well, it should at least power on at a minimum! That blinking light usually indicates the system is in sleep or hibernate mode, so that is a strange one isn't it?
Usually, your problem is associated witht he PSU, it can't output enough power. But as you have replaced the PSU already, we can (almost) discount that. I say almost as it could be one of those rare occasions when you buy another duff one!
The only other item which i can think of, is the Mobo. What concerns me is the way you have somehow managed to warp the board, let alone the damaged corner! To warp the motherboard suggests that those stand-off's were incorrect for your case. There are different sizes in height and screw thread etc.
There are so many other things that may have happened. Shorting is a regular occurance, i.e. the backplate USB ports can have those little metal lugs enter into the actual USB ports on installation. Silly things like that can be completely missed and wreck an otherwise perfect installation!
The conclusion seems to be a dead mobo.[/quote:0d588c3cc1]
That's what I was afraid of :( Lol, I can't believe I knackered the board. I think the only other thing is the processor maybe not touching the heatsink properly because of the warped board but I just doubt it. It's not THAT bad.
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[quote:c2892a431c=\"PrivatePyle@Work\"]i agree - by warping the board, you quite possibly broke a connecting circuit on the PCB that could do any number of tasks like regulate current, causing the whole thing to shut down.
before you RMA it, how many of the parts can you test in your old PC? i.e. can you test the gfx card/ram? 'tis useful that you already check the PSU.
out of curiosity, what is the model of your new case?[/quote:c2892a431c]
Now, from research on some forums, the 'warping' is apparently normal and it's where the heatsink is putting pressure on the board, or at least it's where I induced pressure when installing it.
I can't test any parts in my old pc.
The case is a Jeantech G-Max. Even if I do get the thing running, I'm getting a new case the just takes the normal stand-offs, no messing.
I didn't want to have to do this but it looks like I've got no choice (if not taking it to a technician). I'm going to reinstall the heatsink and processor. I guess that means the thermal pad will be torn and I'll have to start afresh with thermal paste?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/gregoroth/Greg/100_0333.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/gregoroth/Greg/100_0332.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/gregoroth/Greg/100_0336.jpg
That looks like it has been dropped imho, and as i do work in the electronics industry testing / repairing pcbs and see stuff like this semi regularly (the way some customers treat stuff is appauling :wink: ) so i do like to think i kinda know what i am talking about regarding this type of thing.
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[quote:55bac28bae=\"mac124\"]That looks like it has been dropped imho, and as i do work in the electronics industry testing / repairing pcbs and see stuff like this semi regularly (the way some customers treat stuff is appauling :wink: ) so i do like to think i kinda know what i am talking about regarding this type of thing.[/quote:55bac28bae]
You reckon the corner or the bending by the CPU or both is the problem?
[quote:28e00be7ee=\"PrivatePyle@Work\"]that heat sink must weigh a fair bit too :shock:[/quote:28e00be7ee]
It's stock and roughly the weight of a baby rhino.
[quote:ab019e4ede=\"Gregoroth\"][quote:ab019e4ede=\"mac124\"]That looks like it has been dropped imho, and as i do work in the electronics industry testing / repairing pcbs and see stuff like this semi regularly (the way some customers treat stuff is appauling :wink: ) so i do like to think i kinda know what i am talking about regarding this type of thing.[/quote:ab019e4ede]
You reckon the corner or the bending by the CPU or both is the problem?[/quote:ab019e4ede]
Could be, being lga and not actually having pins going into a socket any flexing aroung the cpu could cause the cpu to not make contact with the pins on the mobo.
As mentioned previously is there any chanch you could swap parts out with another pc? Friends / neighbours etc?
[quote:c0384f2e0a=\"mac124\"][quote:c0384f2e0a=\"Gregoroth\"][quote:c0384f2e0a=\"mac124\"]That looks like it has been dropped imho, and as i do work in the electronics industry testing / repairing pcbs and see stuff like this semi regularly (the way some customers treat stuff is appauling :wink: ) so i do like to think i kinda know what i am talking about regarding this type of thing.[/quote:c0384f2e0a]
You reckon the corner or the bending by the CPU or both is the problem?[/quote:c0384f2e0a]
Could be, being lga and not actually having pins going into a socket any flexing aroung the cpu could cause the cpu to not make contact with the pins on the mobo.
As mentioned previously is there any chanch you could swap parts out with another pc? Friends / neighbours etc?[/quote:c0384f2e0a]
Unforuntately not. Seeing as I've got to take the cpu out then I might as well try reseating it.
When I get a replacement though, I'm worried about installing the heatsink whilst it's in the case, even though it says you have to on the cpu sheet. Should I do it out of the case next time?
i nearly always fit the cpu cooler with the mobo out of the case but its personal preference really. The boards do tend to flex more if fitting the coolers whilst in the case which does make me cringe sometimes.
[quote:fac85d4178=\"mac124\"]i nearly always fit the cpu cooler with the mobo out of the case but its personal preference really. The boards do tend to flex more if fitting the coolers whilst in the case which does make me cringe sometimes.[/quote:fac85d4178]
What should I use to get rid of the thermal paste?
You can get \"proper\" cleaning fluid though i just use kitchen towel, the tissue type not the drying up type.
[quote:df7c5a6b9d=\"mac124\"]You can get \"proper\" cleaning fluid though i just use kitchen towel, the tissue type not the drying up type.[/quote:df7c5a6b9d]
Ok then.
I'm glad the motherboard has flattened itself again. I though it would stay permanently bent!
If I just plug the motherboard into the PSU, as it is now, without anything installed, will it power up? (As in - PSU will stay on/case fans will run) to try and rule out a processor contact problem?
No cpu? i doubt it will do much at all tbh, try the old paperclip in the psu connector to see if the psu fires up? You may need to attach a few fans / drives to put some load on it. Mobo should power up to a degree with no mem but it will just beep at you assuming you have the speaker connected.
No seriously im not kidding.
http://www.dvhardware.net/modules.php?name=Sections&sop=viewarticle&artid=5
Usually the green wire to any black but please check before poking bits of wire into your psu connector.
[quote:0e6ccb8c47=\"mac124\"]No cpu? i doubt it will do much at all tbh, try the old paperclip in the psu connector to see if the psu fires up? You may need to attach a few fans / drives to put some load on it. Mobo should power up to a degree with no mem but it will just beep at you assuming you have the speaker connected.
No seriously im not kidding.
http://www.dvhardware.net/modules.php?name=Sections&sop=viewarticle&artid=5
Usually the green wire to any black but please check before poking bits of wire into your psu connector.[/quote:0e6ccb8c47]
I won't risk messing with metal clips. I'd rather not kill myself.
As for the speaker header. Would you believe the board doesn't have one?! :roll:
LOL you wont kill yourself as its only low voltage dc on that connector, but it will prove that the psu works if the psu fires up and the fans / drives whatever you have plugged into it work.
[quote:2d98b8be16=\"mac124\"]LOL you wont kill yourself as its only low voltage dc on that connector, but it will prove that the psu works if the psu fires up and the fans / drives whatever you have plugged into it work.[/quote:2d98b8be16]
The PSU has been tested in my current PC. :P It works great.
I meant if the cpu for some reason, wasn't touching the socket properly, then it would all shut down. I wanted to know if the fans and stuff plugged in would work without the cpu shutting down, IF that was causing it. Sorry for the confusion.
Sorry didn't know the psu was tested in another system though you had just got another new one.
Not really sure what to say about iffy connections on the cpu again i would expect it to beep a code out but if there isn't a speaker header obvioulsy it can't.
Has it got an led \"header\" to give codes out on?
[quote:a6be7207db=\"mac124\"]Sorry didn't know the psu was tested in another system though you had just got another new one.
Not really sure what to say about iffy connections on the cpu again i would expect it to beep a code out but if there isn't a speaker header obvioulsy it can't.
Has it got an led \"header\" to give codes out on?[/quote:a6be7207db]
This is what was happening:
Press case button->briefly powers up->everything seems to power down->power l.e.d blinks slowly.
The power L.E.D turns on for roughly 1 sec, then goes off for 1 sec and repeats.
That's why I've been fiddling trying to get it all to work because I have been thinking it meant that it wasn't dead.
Some pc's have a bank of leds either on the motherboard or on a pci header that can be used to diagnose problems, the power led comiing on for a second means just that, it powered up for a second, have to say it does sound like a dead mobo.
[quote:7bc2f3ac50=\"mac124\"]Some pc's have a bank of leds either on the motherboard or on a pci header that can be used to diagnose problems, the power led comiing on for a second means just that, it powered up for a second, have to say it does sound like a dead mobo.[/quote:7bc2f3ac50]
My motherboard I have at the moment has a red led near a heatsink if that's what you're referring to. The new Foxconn doesn't, however.
I'm getting too p*ssed off with it. I'm just hope I get a replacement.
The more i think about this, the more convinced i am that your problem is hardware and not the motherboard. Generally, if the mobo is duffed, it wouldn't turn on at all. It does at least fire up, albeit for a very short space of time.
You really do need to find a way to check the rest of your hardware i.e. memory, cpu and graphic card. If you go sending the mobo back and they find it isn't faulty, you would probably get billed for the delivery and testing fee etc!
[quote:e0c8915dc6=\"Sleepy\"]The more i think about this, the more convinced i am that your problem is hardware and not the motherboard. Generally, if the mobo is duffed, it wouldn't turn on at all. It does at least fire up, albeit for a very short space of time.
You really do need to find a way to check the rest of your hardware i.e. memory, cpu and graphic card. If you go sending the mobo back and they find it isn't faulty, you would probably get billed for the delivery and testing fee etc![/quote:e0c8915dc6]
Well the only other thing I could do is get it serviced somewhere but I don't know how much that would cost and I'm almost certain it's the motherboard that is faulty. I mean, the damaged corner is already an example. The trouble I had trying to get it fitted in the first place was ridiculous. I had it in and out at least 10 times and I wouldn't be surprised if I've damaged the rear side as well through sliding it on those sodding stand-offs.
I was going to reinstall the processor this evening but I never got round to it. I may have a go tomorrow if I can find some thermal paste. If not, it's going back.
[quote:d740644446=\"Sleepy\"]The more i think about this, the more convinced i am that your problem is hardware and not the motherboard. Generally, if the mobo is duffed, it wouldn't turn on at all. It does at least fire up, albeit for a very short space of time.
You really do need to find a way to check the rest of your hardware i.e. memory, cpu and graphic card. If you go sending the mobo back and they find it isn't faulty, you would probably get billed for the delivery and testing fee etc![/quote:d740644446]
I disagree it could well be the mobo. I had an abit mobo do exactly this, powerup for a second then shut down, all the other hardware was known working (as was the abit for a while) and sure enough i replaced the mobo with another new one and it all powered up fine.
I do agree it would be preferable to try and at least eliminate the other stuff first before rmaing / replacing the mobo if possible. Maybe buy a cheapo 256mb stick of memory to eliminate that, may come in handy too sometime anyway.
[quote:2b8dfce888=\"mac124\"][quote:2b8dfce888=\"Sleepy\"]The more i think about this, the more convinced i am that your problem is hardware and not the motherboard. Generally, if the mobo is duffed, it wouldn't turn on at all. It does at least fire up, albeit for a very short space of time.
You really do need to find a way to check the rest of your hardware i.e. memory, cpu and graphic card. If you go sending the mobo back and they find it isn't faulty, you would probably get billed for the delivery and testing fee etc![/quote:2b8dfce888]
I disagree it could well be the mobo. I had an abit mobo do exactly this, powerup for a second then shut down, all the other hardware was known working (as was the abit for a while) and sure enough i replaced the mobo with another new one and it all powered up fine.
I do agree it would be preferable to try and at least eliminate the other stuff first before rmaing / replacing the mobo if possible. Maybe buy a cheapo 256mb stick of memory to eliminate that, may come in handy too sometime anyway.[/quote:2b8dfce888]
Another thing - If the motherboard has an old BIOS that doesn't support the E6300, would it at least POST?
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[quote:2114b602d5=\"PrivatePyle@Work\"]Good thinking... it wouldn't like it much i'd have thought. Though isn't getting through POST mainly controlled by the mainboard? I could be wrong, but i'd have said you'd get thru the POST and Bios flash screen, then crash.[/quote:2114b602d5]
Yeah, I also would expect to get to the main screen. I could imagine all the motherboards with old BIOS'es being shipped out and people having to buy cheap supported processors...just not the ideal solution!
Another thing - If the motherboard has an old BIOS that doesn't support the E6300, would it at least POST?
PP is right, it would at least start the bios part of the post. If the CPU wasn't compatible with the firmware version on the board it would see it as something else or flag it as \"unknown\", either way it should still boot to the POST and BIOS screen.
But what about the memory or graphic card? Has anyone tried booting without these to see if the board fires up for more than a few secs? this might be useful to know for Gregoroth. Is there a safety cut-out, immediately shutting off the power due to shorting perhaps?
EDIT: Just had a thought. Have you removed the battery for several hours whilst the jumper is in the clear CMOS position. Then reinsert the battery (leave it out overnight is helpful), but remembering to put the clear cmos jumper back on correct pins! Done that one too many times myself! This can work when a quick reset of the cmos doesn't help.
[quote]Another thing - If the motherboard has an old BIOS that doesn't support the E6300, would it at least POST?
PP is right, it would at least start the bios part of the post. If the CPU wasn't compatible with the firmware version on the board it would see it as something else or flag it as \"unknown\", either way it should still boot to the POST and BIOS screen.
But what about the memory or graphic card? Has anyone tried booting without these to see if the board fires up for more than a few secs? this might be useful to know for Gregoroth. Is there a safety cut-out, immediately shutting off the power due to shorting perhaps?
EDIT: Just had a thought. Have you removed the battery for several hours whilst the jumper is in the clear CMOS position. Then reinsert the battery (leave it out overnight is helpful), but remembering to put the clear cmos jumper back on correct pins! Done that one too many times myself! This can work when a quick reset of the cmos doesn't help.[/quote:e79623ee91]
I tried powering on with just the CPU. I also tried removing the battery (couple of mins) and clearing CMOS, then returning the jumper to it's correct position. No change.
I might be interested in this http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260066701425&fromMakeTrack=true
Anyone reckon it's worth it, just to know what the problem is seeing as I can't test with replacement parts?
Have you tried the clear cmos jumper in both positions? I only ask cos i remember getting a PC Shits board awhile back with the jumper in the \"clear cmos\" position! Took awhile to figure that one out too!
I think i am clutching at straws now. :?
[quote:12ed0cdb3f=\"Sleepy\"]Have you tried the clear cmos jumper in both positions? I only ask cos i remember getting a PC **** board awhile back with the jumper in the \"clear cmos\" position! Took awhile to figure that one out too!
I think i am clutching at straws now. :?[/quote:12ed0cdb3f]
I referred to the fold out sheet that the correct jumper position is 2&3 for normal and 1&2 for clear. :wink:
I got a new motherboard and a new case. Same thing. Everthing is guranteed undamaged. The only thing I can personally see it being is that the motherboard doesn't support Dual Core's in the state the BIOS is in or for whatever reason, possibly my memory isn't supported and it doesn't want to boot up.
Tomorrow is the last day I have for a while to get this sorted out so I'm going to have to get the cheapest 775 processor I can find (i.e Celeron) :wink: to boot the system to upgrade the BIOS.
This also means I have 2 motherboards. One with the damaged corner but I feel will work regardless. I'll have to test the stuff on that after I try on the new one and if it works, keep it. Then ebay the new one's big blue ***. LOL! UNBELIEVABLE!
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[quote:d4b1726397=\"PrivatePyle@Work\"]what a generally large pain in the balls this process has been for you squire. :([/quote:d4b1726397]
Yeah. F*cking ridiculous for people who have this board (and most likely others) and are starting off with a C2D. I could get a Celeron D 336 2.8Ghz for a tenner on ebay but that would mean I've got to wait another week and I just don't really care anymore, so here's hoping PC World is open tomorrow 8)
The most aggrivating thing is, I was originally going to get a Pentium 541 3.2Ghz which would have worked... :|
UPDATE:
Received memory from motherboard compatibility list, Kingston 256MB DDR2-533 this morning to test. Still won't boot.
So what does that leave me with? Graphics (recommended to check by Foxconn support) and CPU. I've also been reading about High Efficiency power supplies and how if there's not enough initial power draw, then systems don't boot, scarily, the same symptoms that I had. So that's another possibility...
UPDATE (03.01.07) - FIXED!
I changed the PSU for a cheaper, standard '500W' Jeantech and it's booted up fine. Something to do with a certain amount of minimum load needed on the 12V rails or a possible power delay protection system on motherboards, or both. The afflicted units seemed to be the higher end, 80% efficient models.
It was pure luck that I came across MANY people with exactly the same problem I was having. The confusing thing was this affected numerous PSU's (Antec, Enermax, Seasonic etc.) and boards from Asus, Abit, Biostar, DFI. Certain combinations of motherboards and PSU's don't like each other and I had the luck of someone posting about my P9657AA Foxconn and fixing the issue by swapping out the PSU!
It seems like someone f*cked up when designing the parts. Luckily, most PSU's companies have aknowledged the problem and put out revised units that keep a certain amount of load on the rails to prevent booting failure. Blame whoever you want, PSU makers or motherboard makers... I'd vote for the former.
Anyway, I thought I'd post (<- see what I did there) an update to tell everyone but also to warn everyone. It looks like most units are fixed but obviously there's still old models in circulation. Your best bet is to buy from a popular place that replenishes stock regularly.
I'm just checking now whether it needs a BIOS update, then FINGERS CROSSED, I have no other problems.
http://209.85.129.104/search?q=cache:QfoUgAjMWxYJ:forums.silentpcreview. com/viewtopic.php%3Ft%3D33682+foxconn+refuses+boot&hl=en&gl=uk&ct=clnk&cd=1&client=firefox-a
http://209.85.129.104/search?q=cache:ZV2W779i-eEJ:www.silentpcreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php%3Ft%3D30289+high+efficiency+power+su pply+won%27t+boot&hl=en&gl=uk&ct=clnk&cd=13&client=firefox-a
http://www.silentpcreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=25890&start=540&sid=3f0ed6090ac51abe67a98a7ef09bd0d6
glad you found the problem mate! :)
TBH I would have writen this off from the looks of the corner
I was sure that was what was wrong with it
Opened my eyes
Glad to read it is all working now
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Cheers everyone. I'm very pleased with the system and everything seems to have worked without a problem now. *and exhale...*
WTF :shock: your psu was failing to power up as there wasn't enough load on it?? Thats just mad, though it might have been a good excuse to upgrade something :twisted: 8800gts maybe....
[quote:593ddc29f0=\"mac124\"]WTF :shock: your psu was failing to power up as there wasn't enough load on it?? Thats just mad, though it might have been a good excuse to upgrade something :twisted: 8800gts maybe....[/quote:593ddc29f0]
Something like that... although I also think my motherboard has a power delay mechanism which made the PSU crap itself. To be honest, I don't know and I'm just glad I didn't purchase other stuff and start RMA'ing non faulty goods. 8)
at least it works now :D
o/t slightly lol
the random power offs I was having after replacing psu,memory (thinking it was down to them) but still got them then even even modding the passive northbridge heatsink by putting a fan on it didn't work. I was already to rma either the mobo or cpu until I uninstalled a temp monitor program that I was using and guess what no more power offs lol, so just to make sure I put everything back to normal (passive heatsink again and old memory back in) and it stayed stable which means no more swearing at pc :lol: I took the old ram out and put the crucial stuff back in because it overclocks better :wink:
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