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Neither... so im not voting :P
wtf...you have to choose one...thats the whole point of the question.
You basically saying you'd prefer to be homosexual rather than hypothetically buy one of these GPUs :lol:
apples and oranges will.
would be like asking xt1900 vs 8800gtx or athalon x2 vs core 2 duo or lcd vs crt or steam vs petrol.
not from the same league so i too will not be voting
What the hell....Can't people make a choice these days? Its either A or B...choose one it really isn't hard :lol:
But it's a stupid poll, like marsey said, its like comparing an AMD athlon 1700+ to a Q6600, there just not in the same league
James Bond
01-10-09, 00:04
5870, why?
1)cheaper
2)direct X11
3)new technology
4)eyefinity
5)most important: MUCH LOWER POWER CONSUMPTION!
but GTX295 has physix, which I really like: adds cream to a pie, and many games are optimised for Nvidia...
wonderlust
01-10-09, 10:42
apples and oranges will.
would be like asking xt1900 vs 8800gtx or athalon x2 vs core 2 duo or lcd vs crt or steam vs petrol.
not from the same league so i too will not be voting
Steam is the winner... you can't download games from petrol ;)
Steam is the winner... you can't download games from petrol ;)
Oh I see what you did there! :lol:
My opinion is that if you really want physX that badly then just get yourself a cheapo 8600 or something and use that as the physics card.
I'd go 5870 if it was £100 cheaper than the GTX 295.
The 5870 needs to be priced to beat the GTX 285. If it was nearer the gtx 285 price, the gtx 285 wouldn't sell! at the moment for £20 ish more the GTX 295 is a no brainer.
The 295 really beats it in everything on Toms hardware. Before someone chirps up about mega resolutions who really games in 2560x1600? 99% of the masses don't!
http://media.bestofmicro.com/0/T/224237/original/Far%20Cry%202%20No%20AA.png
http://media.bestofmicro.com/0/S/224236/original/Far%20Cry%202%208x%20AA.png
http://media.bestofmicro.com/0/X/224241/original/HAWX%20No%20AA.png
http://media.bestofmicro.com/1/8/224252/original/Resident%20Evil%20No%20AA.png
No DX11 support on the GTX295 and DX11 is apparently going to be popular.
Going off DX10 hype, i'll believe it when I see it LOL :p
DX10 was pathetic fail because nobody bought Vista. Now that W7 is looking to be quite popular and DX11 promises some nice features it looks like DX11 will be used a lot more than DX10 ever was.
i've voted 5870 anyhow, it looks like a fantastic card if the price was about £50 cheaper.
wonderlust
01-10-09, 11:10
My GTX260 does everything I need at this time, I don't buy many games, I don't play FPS very often (due to motion sickness).
The only reason I upgraded from my 8800Gt to the GTX was so that I could play at my screens native resolution with out any slow down.
So no more gpu updates for me in the near future
Same here, there is nothing my GTX 260 doesn't stomp all over. Until i'm not getting 60+ fps in a game, i'm staying put.
To be honest, I'm still happy with my 8800GT! :)
wonderlust
01-10-09, 11:33
So was I until I got my Dell screen, it was struggling at 2048x1152!
Understandable :lol: :lol:
I would agree with you Wonderlust and Coiler, but i have to i7 my pc and build another out of whats left, and i think i may just have to treat myself to a GTX 300 series card, even though my 260 plays everything
I see the point that they are hard to compare. If I'm not mistaken the gtx 295 is a dual gpu card whereas the 5870 isn't. I think the 4870x2 and gtx 295 is more worthwhile comparison. Or comparing 5870 with the gtx285. For the poll I chose 5870 though.
I would agree with you Wonderlust and Coiler, but i have to i7 my pc and build another out of whats left, and i think i may just have to treat myself to a GTX 300 series card, even though my 260 plays everything
It would be nice to have one on the forum!
I'd go 5870 if it was £100 cheaper than the GTX 295.
The 5870 needs to be priced to beat the GTX 285. If it was nearer the gtx 285 price, the gtx 285 wouldn't sell! at the moment for £20 ish more the GTX 295 is a no brainer.
The 295 really beats it in everything on Toms hardware. Before someone chirps up about mega resolutions who really games in 2560x1600? 99% of the masses don't!
Why are you saying its like comparing a Athlon 1800+ to a Q6600? The GTX295 is faster performance in games than a 5870....it maybe older technology, but still better technology ;)
5870, why?
1)cheaper
2)direct X11
3)new technology
4)eyefinity
5)most important: MUCH LOWER POWER CONSUMPTION!
but GTX295 has physix, which I really like: adds cream to a pie, and many games are optimised for Nvidia...
But it's a stupid poll, like marsey said, its like comparing an AMD athlon 1700+ to a Q6600, there just not in the same league
apples and oranges will.
would be like asking xt1900 vs 8800gtx or athalon x2 vs core 2 duo or lcd vs crt or steam vs petrol.
not from the same league so i too will not be voting
I swear the GTX295 is a fair bit quicker...lol
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-graphics-card,2464-8.html
Just seen the new chart from tomshardware, showing the GTX295 and 4870x2 higher than the 5870...that must mean that the GTX295 is a higher end card?
no it means overall they perform the best.
its twice as much hardware m8, go and see how many high end single gpu cards beats a high end sli/xfire set up, they just dont.
no it means overall they perform the best.
its twice as much hardware m8, go and see how many high end single gpu cards beats a high end sli/xfire set up, they just dont.
So surely I've been right from the start of this thread, a GTX295 is better than a 5870?
lol, erm you on a ninja eidt spree again :P
still dif leagues imo, 2 gpu card vs 2 gpu card or old tech vs old tech, not old tech 2 gpu card vs new tech 1 gpu card.
given a blank cheque m8 i would want 2 asus mars 285 for quadfire and a 30" dell screen.
lol, erm you on a ninja eidt spree again :P
still dif leagues imo, 2 gpu card vs 2 gpu card or old tech vs old tech, not old tech 2 gpu card vs new tech 1 gpu card.
given a blank cheque m8 i would want 2 asus mars 285 for quadfire and a 30" dell screen.
You wouldn't want x4 5870s then?
not really no m8, that would limit me to an amd board and tbh i would want i7, suppose i could get 3 5870 but still the mars is a rare beast and 2 would be a maasoooove e peen so...:getmecoat:
not really no m8, that would limit me to an amd board and tbh i would want i7, suppose i could get 3 5870 but still the mars is a rare beast and 2 would be a maasoooove e peen so...:getmecoat:
You could have a AMD Phenom II x6 :D
PeterStoba
06-11-09, 23:59
not really no m8, that would limit me to an amd board and tbh i would want i7, suppose i could get 3 5870 but still the mars is a rare beast and 2 would be a maasoooove e peen so...:getmecoat:
No it wouldn't. There are atleast two boards that would allow you to run 4 5870s, even more if you watercooled them with a single slot block ;)
No it wouldn't. There are atleast two boards that would allow you to run 4 5870s, even more if you watercooled them with a single slot block ;)
I was thinking that, but wasn't sure and didn't want to say it as Aaron would tell me off for making 'blanket' statements :o:
I dont mind you making blanket statements in the slightest - as long as they're right.. The only ones I've actually said anything about it are when you've said something completely wrong or misleading. There's a subtle difference there, Will.
I dont mind you making blanket statements in the slightest - as long as they're right.. The only ones I've actually said anything about it are when you've said something completely wrong or misleading. There's a subtle difference there, Will.
:p that's alright Aaron :)
iwhich i7 boards have 4 full usable slots?
PeterStoba
07-11-09, 12:56
iwhich i7 boards have 4 full usable slots?
An ASUS P6T7 or either of the EVGA classifieds would be fine, 3 x16 and 3 x8, unless you're running dual GPU cards it's easily enough bandwidth. The scaling will drop before you notice any difference because of speed anyway.
yea, 3 slots that was what i said, im sure i have only seen amd boards with 4 full slots.
i would still take 2 mars over 3 5800.
An ASUS P6T7 or either of the EVGA classifieds would be fine, 3 x16 and 3 x8, unless you're running dual GPU cards it's easily enough bandwidth. The scaling will drop before you notice any difference because of speed anyway.
I was just looking at that board. Am I right in thinking it for example it could run x3 8600GTs (GPU) and x1 8500GT (PPU)?
PeterStoba
07-11-09, 14:02
I was just looking at that board. Am I right in thinking it for example it could run x3 8600GTs (GPU) and x1 8500GT (PPU)?
You can't run three 8600GTs in SLI, so no. But any of those boards would allow you run run 3 cards and a Physx GPU, or up to 7 GPUs for folding or something.
Marsey, what I was trying to say way, you say there are only AMD boards which provide the four full x16 lanes, meaning you couldnt go i7 and run the 4 5870s, but you could run them on any of the boards I mentioned.
The 3x 16 and 3x 8 refered to the P6T7, the Classified 4x would allow you to run four cards at full speeds iirc.
I know you've said you'd prefer two MARS', and I agree, but my point stands ;)
I was just looking at that board. Am I right in thinking it for example it could run x3 8600GTs (GPU) and x1 8500GT (PPU)?
Plus you need minimum 9800GTX to run in Tri Sli, anything lower isn't supported.
i get what you mean, we are both saying the same thing just in different ways :D
having said that as this was a hypothetical and money was not an issue i guess i would just get both :D
edit
8800gtx did tri sli too iirc.
Why do people try and prove me wrong :lol:
Why do people try and prove me wrong :lol:
no idea, from what I can gather its no sport
its not proving you wrong m8, thats neg tude to dude, we are helping you see the truth :D
solidsteve
26-11-09, 17:07
i know i am a week to late but well :>
i have actually got a GTX 295 and its a monster of a card
I've noticed the GTX295 doesn't suffer from being a multicard setup like the 4870x2 does....must be something to do with the way it's setup inside.
solidsteve
27-11-09, 16:44
I've noticed the GTX295 doesn't suffer from being a multicard setup like the 4870x2 does....must be something to do with the way it's setup inside.
the only problem i am haveing with it as of late (since i uped to 7) is that it seems to be sluggish in games and cant handle the physx as well (if at all)
i am in 2 minds to split my raid o set up and stick xp on one drive and 7 on the other, see how xp gose with it
the only problem i am haveing with it as of late (since i uped to 7) is that it seems to be sluggish in games and cant handle the physx as well (if at all)
i am in 2 minds to split my raid o set up and stick xp on one drive and 7 on the other, see how xp gose with it
or buy a 8500GT :p
solidsteve
27-11-09, 17:46
or buy a 8500GT :p
i already have a xp disc here quicker for me to just install this :thumbsup:
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