my first build

[matt.fletcher]

just want to know if all this will be compatable with eachother and will work properly,
Asus TA-B11 Black Mid Tower Case
Asus P5KPL-AM iG31 Socket 775 onboard VGA 8 channel audio mATX
Intel Pentium Dual Core E5200 2.5GHz Socket 775 800FSB 2MB Cache Retail Boxed Processor
Kingston 2GB (2x1GB) DDR2 1066MHz/PC2-8500 Hyperx Memory Non-ECC Cl5(5-5-5-15) Unbuffered
Seagate ST3250318AS 250GB Hard Drive SATAII 7200rpm 8MB Cache
OCZ 400W StealthXStream PSU
Samsung SH-S223F 22X DVD?RW/RAM/DL Serial ATA Black Bare Drive
PowerColor HD 4670 PCS Edition 1GB DDR3 Dual DVI HDTV Out PCI-E Graphics Card
2x Plexus Serial ATA 2.0 (SATA) 7-pin Cable (Red) 46cm / 18"

will all of this work and be good enough to run fallout 3:)
thanks:)

[mac124]

Should work fine together, the 1gb on the 4670 is a bit of a gimmick, get a 512mb version, i can recommend the his iceq, played with one recently and was very impressed with it, quiet, as in near silent. It might be a little bit more expensive than the "normal" ones (can be had for around £65 if you shop around) but is faster and has better cooling.

http://www.hisdigital.com/un/product2-65.shtml

You might want to consider 4gb too, depending on what res you play games at and os.

[Monkey]

4GB only really makes a difference if you run programs while playin games, oh and alt tabbing from games to windows, all games will run just as well with 2gb

i know you know this mac, im just letting mat know

[mac124]

Not strictly true in my exprience, i had 2gb when i first got my C2D set up, as the memory i REALLY wanted was out of stock everywhere so i got some cheapo stuff to get it up and running, and it refused to play BF2142 i think it was at anything above low settings at my chosen resolution at the time, until i upgraded to 4gb.

Hence my asking about resolution etc. Most games will probably be ok but some may not.

[El Wayneo]

The 400W Corsair is £2.73 more and a much better PSU.

The HIS HD4670 IceQ as Mac124 suggested is only £2.56 more and will be alot better mate, Cooler, quieter and it vents the heat out the back of the case unlike the Powercolor.

As for HDD get the Western Digital Caviar Blue 320Gb its only £1.97 more and offers 16mb cache over 8mb and is 70Gb bigger, will be faster/quieter aswell.

Oh and you will get SATA cables with the motherboard, no need to buy any.

Will cost you £7 for a better system.

[matt.fletcher]

ok thanks alot:)
taking your advise el wayneo
and the screen ill be using will be pretty low res:') its 15.4"

[mac124]

On that monitor you will probably get away with 2gb, when you upgrade (if?) you may need to think about 4gb.

[matt.fletcher]

i might get a new monitor, probably around 19"
and if i need it then ill get more ram:)
can i just ask, would that computer play crysis? even on low settings?

updated specs:
intel pentium dual core E5200 2.5ghz
kingston 2gb DDR2 1066 ram
WD 320gb 7200rpm 16mb cache
HIS HD 4670 IceQ 1gb
Corsair 400w CX PSU :)

[El Wayneo]

Yeah it play any game on low settings at a low enough resolution.

Heres a review of the card.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2009/02/02/his-ati-radeon-hd-4670-iceq-review/5

[mac124]

Thats the standard iceq still better cooling than the stock 4670 but try and get the Turbo version if you can.

[El Wayneo]

THe link for the ICeQ Turbo says it has 780Mhz on the Core and 2000mhz memory, the standard IceQ has 750Mhz core and 2000Mhz memory.

Only 30Mhz OC on the core, thats like 4% worth about 1-2fps, if that.

Unless i'm missing something else?

[mac124]

Nope but if your going to buy one might as well try get the turbo version, assuming the price difference doesn't take the p.

Course you could buy a second hand one, if you know someone who happens to have one they aren't using and might be willing to part with ;).

[El Wayneo]

Cheapest i can find with free delivery is £9.50 more, and then for £65 you could get a HD4730/4830 instead which would be alot faster.

[mac124]

How much was it though?

[El Wayneo]

£63

[mac124]

Tis true, how about £50 for a 2nd hand (nearly new) one?

[matt.fletcher]

i think im gunner stick with the standard HIS 4670 1gb IceQ, ive got a pretty tight budget:\

could anybody confirm that this motherboard and CPU are compatable,
Asus P5KPL-AM iG31 Socket 775
Intel Pentium Dual Core E5200 2.5GHz Socket 775 800FSB 2MB Cache
thanks

[Will]

i think im gunner stick with the standard HIS 4670 1gb IceQ, ive got a pretty tight budget:\

could anybody confirm that this motherboard and CPU are compatable,
Asus P5KPL-AM iG31 Socket 775
Intel Pentium Dual Core E5200 2.5GHz Socket 775 800FSB 2MB Cache
thanks

All the answers can be found here :p

http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=xs6iinKxu0y5agcg&templete=2

I would say yes is the answer, but double check :)

[matt.fletcher]

ok thanks alot:)

[matt.fletcher]

yes its compatable!:D only reason i wasnt sure was that the info on the motherboard ( different site;) ) didnt have Intel® 45nm CPU Ready in so i was abit unsure. :)

[mac124]

i think im gunner stick with the standard HIS 4670 1gb IceQ, ive got a pretty tight budget :\


Didn't take the hint then??



Tis true, how about £50 for a 2nd hand (nearly new) one?

[Will]

Even though it says that still go and check...there is more than one Intel 45nm CPU out there :P

[matt.fletcher]

i dunno what to do:')
im gunner look on fleabay closer to the time of me getting my pc, i looked today and found a load of next to new things, like a 4770 that starts at 99p
theres 2 currently on if your interested, i think the guy whose selling thems called something like freindly james
theres also an asus rampage an i7 processor and a bunch of other things starting realy cheap if anyone wants to look:)
ends in a couple of days i think

[matt.fletcher]

wouldnt it be better to go for a 1gb card, surely it can use more than 512mb of the total memory so itd be better that a 512mb card?:S

[mac124]

I seriously doubt anything that good will stay at a low price if it still has 2 days to go.

A card like the 4670 whilst very reasonable for the price is NEVER going to need 1GB of memory EVER. Please don't fall into the newbie trap of being fooled into thinking more memory is better on cheaper cards, noi ;). The 4670 just doesn't have the kahunas to fully utlilise it. If you are running at a res and/or detail that requires 1GB of graphics memory you will need a card MUCH more powerful than the 4670 to render that much data.

The offer is there, i am just trying to a) save you a bit of ££ (the card is basically brand new) and b) get rid of something that is on my pile of bits gathering dust.

[matt.fletcher]

what are the specs of this card?

[mac124]

It's essentially the same as the one you were considering getting but 512MB and slightly faster core speed.


http://www.hisdigital.com/un/product2-65.shtml

It retails for just shy of £70, if you would like to save yourself a few ££ you can have mine for £50inc pnp.

[matt.fletcher]

mmmm im not sure at the minute, ill get back to you with that:D


i know that the 4670 wouldnt use all of the 1gig it has, but how much of it do you think itd run
and would it run any slower because its too big to handle or anythign like that?

[matt.fletcher]

could anyone please confirm whether this mother b. and cpu would be compatable
XFX nForce 750i SLI Socket 775
intel pentium dual core E5200 2.5ghz

its the right socket type but its not on the compatability list so im not sure about is:\

[El Wayneo]

Well from googling XFX 750 i and E5200 it appears it does.

Why get an Sli mobo if you are getting an AMD/ATI card?

[El Wayneo]

For the money though its worth getting the 1GB as they are about the same price as the 512mbm as some games will use more than 512mb its a fact, even with the 128bit interface, plus the memory on the 512mb version is the same as the 1GB so it won't be slower.

Just get the card you were gonna get, it will do you fine.

[wonderlust]

And... If you are looking to overclock it would appear that intel chipset get better results

[mac124]

mmmm im not sure at the minute, ill get back to you with that:D


i know that the 4670 wouldnt use all of the 1gig it has, but how much of it do you think itd run
and would it run any slower because its too big to handle or anythign like that?

Entirely up to you mate, the offer is there. I will be advertsing it elsewhere soon though.

It would use all of the 1gb if you upped the res / detail its just it would run like a slide show because it just hasn't got the raw power to do anything with it.

Its the same old gimmick, card manufacturers have been using for years stick stupid amounts of memory on cards that cannot properly use it.

[mac124]

For the money though its worth getting the 1GB as they are about the same price as the 512mbm as some games will use more than 512mb its a fact, even with the 128bit interface, plus the memory on the 512mb version is the same as the 1GB so it won't be slower.

Just get the card you were gonna get, it will do you fine.

You know as well as i do the 4670 1gb wont perform with any significant improvement over the 512mb version when the res / eye candy gets turned up as its just not got the processing power to make use of the extra memory.

I would expect you to give better advice than that.

Prove to me the 1gb version makes a game playable that is unplayable on the 512mb version.

[El Wayneo]

I wasn't saying that, just that if the 512mb version is within a few quid of a 1gb then to go for it, as games like GRID and GTA4 will still use about 600 -700mb of the HD4670s memory.

[matt.fletcher]

Id like to thank everyone for all the advice theyve given, especially el wayneo and mac :)
my budget just went up to £305 :)
what do you think i should spend the extra 40 on? :)

[matt.fletcher]

i have come up with this update to fit my budget:)
does anyone think i should put more money into something else in stead of something thaat i chose to put the extra money into?

Coolermaster Elite 330 Black Case With CM eXtreme Power 460W PSU. 135101
Gigabyte GA-P31-ES3G iP31 Socket 775 5.1 channel audio ATX Motherboard. 151053
Intel Pentium Dual Core E5200 2.5GHz Socket 775 800FSB 2MB Cache Retail Boxed Processor. 148715
Kingston 2gb Ddr2 1066mhz/pc2-8500 Hyperx Memory Cl5. 165306
Western Digital WD5000AAKS 500GB SATAII 7200RPM 16MB Cache - OEM Caviar Blue. 124228
HIS HD 4670 IceQ Edition 1GB VGA DVI HDMI PCI-E Graphics Card 171659.
Black Wireless Multimedia Keyboard & Optical Mouse with Charge Cradle - USB. 132140
LG GH22NS50 22x SATA DVD±RW Dual Layer & RAM Black Bare Drive - OEM. 169683
Netgear WG311 Wireless-G PCI Card. 50127

[Monkey]

I wasn't saying that, just that if the 512mb version is within a few quid of a 1gb then to go for it, as games like GRID and GTA4 will still use about 600 -700mb of the HD4670s memory.
GTA4 uses well over 800mb of memory!

Whereas GRID uses hardly any

[matt.fletcher]

if i bought a motherboard that has the ram sots at 1.8v could i change it to use 2v ram
Gigabyte GA-P31-ES3G iP31 Socket 775 5.1 channel audio ATX Motherboard
Crucial 4GB (2X2GB) DDR2 800MHz/PC2-6400 Ballistix Memory CL4 2.0V

[wonderlust]

If the board has the option to do so yes, not all boards do though (Asus P5Kpl-VM G31 as an example)

[matt.fletcher]

the motherboard allows you to use easy tune 6, a probram to change properties of the motherboard but im not sure which, does anybody know if i can change the voltage for the DIMMs on this motherboard?

[alexnifty]

Best thing to do is go to the manufacturers website and download the manual pdf. Should be a section in it detailing all the BIOS functions.

[matt.fletcher]

right, ive chosen all the parts for my computer,

Coolermaster Elite 330 Black Case With CM eXtreme Power 460W PSU
Gigabyte GA-M52L-S3P nForce 520LE Socket AM2+ 8 Channel Audio ATX Motherboard
AMD Athlon X2 240 2.8GHz Socket AM3 2MB Cache Retail Box Processor
Western Digital WD5000AAKS 500GB SATAII 7200RPM 16MB Cache - OEM Caviar Blue
Corsair 2GB DDR2 800MHz/PC2-6400 XMS2 Xtreme Performance Memory CL5
HIS HD 4670 IceQ Edition 1GB VGA DVI HDMI PCI-E Graphics Card
LG GH22NS50 22x SATA DVD±RW Dual Layer & RAM Black Bare Drive - OEM

hoping that'll run ok:)
once ive connected everything up(correctly, hopefully) is there anything i need to do before installing vista 32bit and booting up?
any stupid settings i need to change in bios like setting up disk drives or whatever?
thanks



oh, and thanks alexnifty, i looked on the website and that motherboard does change voltage for the DIMMS:)

[wonderlust]

are you sure you don't wish to wait to see what P55 is going to bring?

[Will]

right, ive chosen all the parts for my computer,

Coolermaster Elite 330 Black Case With CM eXtreme Power 460W PSU
Gigabyte GA-M52L-S3P nForce 520LE Socket AM2+ 8 Channel Audio ATX Motherboard
AMD Athlon X2 240 2.8GHz Socket AM3 2MB Cache Retail Box Processor
Western Digital WD5000AAKS 500GB SATAII 7200RPM 16MB Cache - OEM Caviar Blue
Corsair 2GB DDR2 800MHz/PC2-6400 XMS2 Xtreme Performance Memory CL5
HIS HD 4670 IceQ Edition 1GB VGA DVI HDMI PCI-E Graphics Card
LG GH22NS50 22x SATA DVD±RW Dual Layer & RAM Black Bare Drive - OEM

hoping that'll run ok:)
once ive connected everything up(correctly, hopefully) is there anything i need to do before installing vista 32bit and booting up?
any stupid settings i need to change in bios like setting up disk drives or whatever?
thanks



oh, and thanks alexnifty, i looked on the website and that motherboard does change voltage for the DIMMS:)

Whats your budget?
I hope your not planning on gaming on that machine :) if your running vista or windows 7...
I

[mac124]

The 4670 is quite a capable card for the money, i have played with one and its not too far behind an overclocked 9600gt so gaming wise, within reason, it doesn't do too badly.

[Will]

The 4670 is quite a capable card for the money, i have played with one and its not too far behind an overclocked 9600gt so gaming wise, within reason, it doesn't do too badly.

I say the RAM...well hinted at it ;) 2GB is horrible for gaming on vista or windows 7 :lol:

I played games with a 8400 fine...that 4670 i know will be awesome :D

[matt.fletcher]

firstly i dunno what p55 is so ill pass:')
an budget is 285
and ill have a monitor thats a realy low res anyway so im not going with loads of ram

[matt.fletcher]

am i gunner have to configure everything in the bios before i boot up or will it do it automatically?

[busman3000]

It should boot up just fine.

[Will]

I say the RAM...well hinted at it ;) 2GB is horrible for gaming on vista or windows 7 :lol:

I played games with a 8400 fine...that 4670 i know will be awesome :D

My recent thread about how 4GB isn't enough for gamers illustrates that 2GB isn't enough :D

[mac124]

Thats only one game though and Crysis is renound for being a system hog. I doubt 99.99% of people will be in the same boat.

[matt.fletcher]

is this mother board, Gigabyte GA-M52L-S3P nForce 520LE, compatable with ati graphics cards?
not sure because it uses an nvidia chipset:\

[Will]

For a gaming PC would you not want to go with a Phenom II x2 550? More power clock for clock, and you could unlock extra cores with this board :) (they do cost £75 though, when you could get a Phenom II x3 720 for £90)

http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Motherboards/Socket+AM2%2B+%28AMD%29/ASRock+A790GXH%2F128M+AM2%2B+DDR2+ATX+Motherboard+ ?productId=37160

That board also supports hybrid crossfire and crossfire x :) and uses the latest chipsets :D better overclocking :thumpsup:

[El Wayneo]

Ermmmmmmm, i have used 2GB in my media PC to play Crysis/FO3/L4D and plennnnty other games, for along time now.

2GB is still plenty for Vista and Win7, stop talking about stuff you know nothing about (Will).

[mac124]

A lot depends on the res being used, as i have said in the past when i built my first 775 set up i had to "make do" with a lower amount of memory to get the system up and running as the memory i wanted was out of stock everywhere and i couldn't play bf2142 at my native res due to lack of memory, so i believe what Will is saying, ok maybe he has other stuff running in the background or whatever but lack of memory is quite possible to cause games to crash, specially if using a higher res + eye candy is turned up.

[Will]

A lot depends on the res being used, as i have said in the past when i built my first 775 set up i had to "make do" with a lower amount of memory to get the system up and running as the memory i wanted was out of stock everywhere and i couldn't play bf2142 at my native res due to lack of memory, so i believe what Will is saying, ok maybe he has other stuff running in the background or whatever but lack of memory is quite possible to cause games to crash, specially if using a higher res + eye candy is turned up.

I get BSOD on Crysis now ;)

Matt...get the Coolermaster 335, its the model up from the 330 and I have it...its brillilliant! The 330 doesn't have as good comments on its page on Aria :) as its a lower model :)

[matt.fletcher]

i dont have the money to get a better processor:\
and the res will be pretty pathetic so i could play most things if i wanted

i think the 334 look much better that the 335 but there's no offer on the 334:(


any tips nows the time, ill be buying the stuff at around 12 tomorrow:)(L)

[Will]

Looks fine! Except get that 335..same price, better model and build quality!

[PeterStoba]

Looks fine! Except get that 335..same price, better model and build quality!

They are all the same inside and the build quality is the same on all of the Elite 33x's.

334 is the best looking too imo, or the 330.

[Will]

Damn when I bought my 335 I thought that it was the only case to have front and back 120mm fans :p

Still mine looks real cool with its blue LED fan in the front...non of the other cases could show that :p

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs180.snc1/6768_124237338322_540488322_2397533_3973062_n.jpg

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs200.snc1/6768_124290073322_540488322_2398485_5375915_n.jpg The 335 in action ;)

[haroon]

Specs look A Ok for some decent gaming on modest resolutions.

[El Wayneo]

Does the Case come with any fans? Or do you need to get some cheap 12cm ones?

[matt.fletcher]

it comes with 1 120mm rear fan, and ill be getting another for the front some other time, also the 4670's got a fan so that should also help:)

its a shame this case ( 172779 ) isn't out yet:\ really nice, id have gone for that instead.

thanks for all the help!:D

[haroon]

Yup no front fan. Needs a 120mm fan. Can pick up ones with PVM for 6 or 7 quid.

[busman3000]

With windows 7 I idle at 25% ram usage, with 4gb.

[Will]

I think we all do? Unless people don't know about "msconfig" :P

[matt.fletcher]

Ordered it all this morning:D
ill tell you how it goes:)

and theres nothing i need to do except install windows and boot up then???
Which version of windows would everyone recomend for my specs? :)

[wonderlust]

Windows 7 RC if you can get it/have it?

if not Vista

[matt.fletcher]

Yeah ive got it :)

[wonderlust]

you can't go wrong with Win7 imho.

Or wait (lol as if that's going to happen!) until Win7 retail is available

OR...... grab an ilicit copy of Win 7 RTM and either mod the bios to support Slic v2.1 (easy to do but carries a risk) or get a boot loader (what other nasties is it going to install as well?)

[jonwoad]

I got a loader (for vista) on my laptop and it works well :)

[matt.fletcher]

all set up and working flawlessly:D

[mac124]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y1/mac124/smilies/worthless.gif

[matt.fletcher]

taken some:)
tell me how to get them on here and ill give you some:)

[alexnifty]

www.photobucket.com

[matt.fletcher]

http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy84/annonamous-alan/DSCF0091.jpg?t=1252241825

http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy84/annonamous-alan/DSCF0092.jpg?t=1252241860

http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy84/annonamous-alan/DSCF0093.jpg?t=1252241904[/URL]


http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy84/annonamous-alan/DSCF0094.jpg?t=1252241980

there you go:)
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[wonderlust]

only 1 stick of ram?

[mikepardon]

only 1 stick of ram?

Just not right is it? What is the world coming too haha.

[wonderlust]

one is fine, it just means that he will be in single channel mode.

In real world apps the difference between single and dual channel isnt that great.

[matt.fletcher]

one is fine, it just means that he will be in single channel mode.

In real world apps the difference between single and dual channel isnt that great.


i know:\ i forgot you couldnt use dual channal with only 1 stick

if i upgrade it ill get a second 2 gig stick:)
and i use a 2 gb memory stick for ready boost:)
and it runs the crysis demo perfectly:) not sure about the full gane though... and all for £300:D

[wonderlust]

exactly, you will see a very very minor increase in going dual channel, but (depending on OS) will possibly see more of a boost going to 4Gb

[matt.fletcher]

yeahhhhhhhhh:)
well itd be 6 gb realy, i use a 2 gig ready boost stick

[wonderlust]

real memory will give a lot more boost than a usb stick

[Will]

How did u get a window in that case?

[wonderlust]

der... perhaps he bought the windowed version? :twisted:

see RC-330K-KWPC-GP

[Will]

see RC-330K-KWPC-GP

I don't see it :p but if that is the case...damn I want a side window :p

[wonderlust]

google it lol

here I have done it for you

http://www.google.co.uk/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&q=RC-330K-KWPC-GP&btnG=Google+Search&meta=lr%3D&aq=f&oq=

[Will]

google it lol

here I have done it for you

http://www.google.co.uk/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&q=RC-330K-KWPC-GP&btnG=Google+Search&meta=lr%3D&aq=f&oq=

:p ahhh thank you ;)

I guess there is noway I can get a sidewindow without getting a new case?

[wonderlust]

tried to contact Coolermaster?

[Will]

Email them? No but I will look into it now :D

On their website they have these items...

http://uk.coolermaster.com/products/product.php?language=uk&act=morecategory&finalflag=Y&tbcate=683&cateid=000069

A wee bit limited me thinks?

[wonderlust]

well all you can do is contact them and see

[Will]

Hmmm

http://uk.coolermaster.com/contactus/contactus.php?language=uk&id=40

:p what happened to England...I hope they speak English Tiawan :twisted:

[wonderlust]

they probably speak it better than we do!

[alexnifty]

Linksys router :thumbsup: WRT54G? You should flash it (http://www.polarcloud.com/tomato).

(will not be held responsible for any bricking)

[matt.fletcher]

Linksys router :thumbsup: WRT54G? You should flash it (http://www.polarcloud.com/tomato).

(will not be held responsible for any bricking)


whats the benifit?

[alexnifty]

whats the benifit?

Complete overhaul of the Linksys firmware, unlocks a load of tweaking options and adds things like real-time bandwidth monitoring with graphs and stuff, QoS (that works), more security options WPA2 etc. You can even overclock the router and boost the radio antenna signal.

If your happy with what your router does though I wouldn't recommend changing.
Flashing is a risk and I only did it so I could use better QoS management when I had 6 people all trying to bitTorrent :thumbsdn:

[matt.fletcher]

i looked at the tomato page and you can only do it up to version 4:\ mines v5:(
also, whats the best wireless pci adaptop for around £25?
im looking at, Netgear WG311 Wireless-G PCI Card- buyer.com/product/50127

[El Wayneo]

Belkin F5D7001UK.

[matt.fletcher]

Belkin F5D7001UK.

ok thanks:)

[matt.fletcher]

my motherboard has 2 sata ports already soldered in, but its got 2 extra sets of holes to fit 2 more sata ports, im wondering where i could get on from as im trying to add an extra couple of hard drives:)
cheerssss


http://obrazki.elektroda.net/76_1241708883.jpg

[alexnifty]

Interesting idea but I'm sure it can't be as simple as soldering a couple more ports on. Your bios might not recognise the extra ports, then the controllers might not etc.

[Aaron]

I'm pretty sure its because they will use the same motherboard PCB for a range of motherboards, and just name them differently, like pro, deluxe or something similar, but the motherboards will have different capabilities and so wouldnt recognise anything on those ports..

Although, I'd love to be wrong and be able to buy a basic motherboard, do a bit of soldering and get the deluxe version :lol: :lol:

[mac124]

Yeah i would agree with the others, i suspect it wont be quite that easy, you're better off getting a £10 sata card tbh if you need more hdd's.

http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Controller+Cards/SATA/SATA+2-Port+PCI+Controller+Card+?productId=7730

[matt.fletcher]

ok thanks alot:)

[matt.fletcher]

i just got emailed from e b uy er saying happy birthday theres a voucher on your accont for a free delivery, how to i find it?
thanks

[Funlester]

Not meaning this in a nasty way but go ask them!

[matt.fletcher]

im going to, i just like arias forums much more, e b u yer tend to be quite slow

p.s. your message underneith your comments is abit sick

[PeterStoba]

i just got emailed from e b uy er saying happy birthday theres a voucher on your accont for a free delivery, how to i find it?
thanks

Order as usual. It will come off automatically, I'd assume

[matt.fletcher]

i thought that, but when i added something to my basket there was no mension of free delivery in there:\

[mac124]

isn't there options for delivery maybe in a pull down menu or something?

[matt.fletcher]

nopeeee :\

btw, i just bought a WMP54G (v4.1)and im running vista
ive got the drivers installed but the utility to change the settings wont work!
anybody know how to get it working?
thanks

[matt.fletcher]

my ram runs at 2.0v and the default is 1.8v
theres an option to raise it but the next one up is 2.05
would that be safe to use?
thanks