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I got myself a new set of bits for my pc:
AMD Phenom II 720
Gigabyte GA-790XT
2x2GB DDR3 1333mhz.
MMMh I cannot wait!
Can't beat a good purchase!
post some pics when it arrives
I love those "whoops, finger slipped!" moments :p
If anyones interested, my current stuff is for sale:
P5N-E SLI Motherboard. £35, inc delivery
E5200 CPU overclocks to 3.15 easily £40 Inc Del
Arctic Freezer 7 pro (pins slightly bent, still works fine) £12 inc del
OCZ reaper X Ram PC 6400, overclocks to 1000mhz on 2.1v with 5-5-5-15 timings. £35inc del
OCZ Stealth X Stream 500w Psu. £40 inc delivery
busman3000
10-08-09, 23:54
The power of the 720 will not let you down.
3.6ghz stock volts, ddr3 1333 cl6. Plus possible 4 th core unlocked. Looks like a good deal to me.
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/3690/quad.th.png (http://img39.imageshack.us/i/quad.png/)
PeterStoba
11-08-09, 18:45
No.
busman3000
11-08-09, 21:51
I am ****ing yeah I couldn't get mine past 3.5 :cry:
DDR3 is no biggie :D
Mines now at 3.5ghz, at 1.5v with 4 cores completely stable, i cant seem to get 3.6 perfectly stable, i can post a 4ghz, but cant give it enough volts, needs some tweaking.
Siggy need updating mate.
So hows the temps at 1.5v, my 955 gets a bit warm on 1.45 and its got a big noctua cooler bolted, litterally, on top of it.
DDR3 is no biggie :D
You sure about that?
Was playing with some earlier today, "only" running at 1760mhz. 10000+MB/s read, almost 8000MB/s write 45.6ns latency. Hows that compare against your DDR2? ;)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y1/mac124/screenies/ballistix1760mhz.jpg
I need to complete my overclock only 2200 on NB and HT link.
busman3000
11-08-09, 22:20
You sure about that?
Was playing with some earlier today, "only" running at 1760mhz. 10000+MB/s read, almost 8000MB/s write 45.6ns latency. Hows that compare against your DDR2? ;)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y1/mac124/screenies/ballistix1760mhz.jpg
Damn.
I need to complete my overclock only 2200 on NB and HT link.
Should be good for another bump on the multiplier, running mine at 2400 iirc or there abouts.
Damn.
LOL that all you have to say?
I have had it at 2400 no sweat. As for the ram, that could be overclocked like a *****. I don't get full temp readouts with an unlocked core, it says 42 idle, 52 load. I am very pleased so far, I can't get past 3.5 with 3 or 4 cores, so will push 3.55 and ram upto 1600, see if I can get more performance out of it.
Yeah its faster, but is it worth the extra it would have cost him for a DDR3 motherboard and the extra for the RAM, about £40- £50?
To me the gains still aren't there, plus an AMD 720BE at 3.5ghz isn't gonna be held back much, if at all by a few hundred mhz on the memory. Timings is still where its at.
Still, nice if you have it.
Guess we'll see soon enough as Busmans and Lynx's systems are more or less identical bar the DDR3.
Way i see it its more or less pointless building a system from the ground up if you are going straight in with an AM3 cpu with DDR2. If you are going to do it its worth doing properly. In 12 months when you want to upgrade the newer AM3's may not support DDR2 or if you want more memory you maybe in the situation we are now with lesser ram costing more than the current norm.
Just my opinion, if you can afford the little extra outlay its worth it for futre proofing.
Not jealous atall, i have an intel and that stays cool when OC'd!!
busman3000
12-08-09, 12:05
It's all good mac, most likely I wont be upgrading, but I'll be building another computer from the ground up in about a year from now. I don't see AM3 CPU's losing their support for DDR2 within 18-24 months though 8)
I also agree with Mac as far as DDR3 is concerned. It's possible to buy DDR-1333 C9 kits for around £45 these days so they aren't exactly breaking the bank. From a motherboard perspective, it's possible to go DDR3 from around £60. I've tried the Gigabyte MA770T UD3P and Asus M4A785TD-V and for the price, they perform very well. Even these "budget" boards have a full selection of overclocking options and have the updated SB710 SB, which includes the famous Advanced Clock Calibration variable. Sure, DDR3 may not result in a notable performance increase in a lot of the apps that people tend to use but from a future upgradability perspective, I too feel that it's worth the extra outlay. :)
AMD have most certainly got the edge below the Core i7 category.
I paid £50 for 1333 CL6! Ram, thats brilliant. I did pay around £250, but its so worth it, stable with:
3.5Ghz 4 cores AMD Phenom II x4 720
1333 Crucial Ballistix cl6@ 1600 CL9
GA-790XT-UD4P
http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/4482/overclock.th.png (http://img30.imageshack.us/i/overclock.png/)
busman3000
12-08-09, 14:38
That's sweet man. Next time your on msn we gotta go over memory timing/oc'ing :P
busman3000
12-08-09, 14:50
You sure about that?
Was playing with some earlier today, "only" running at 1760mhz. 10000+MB/s read, almost 8000MB/s write 45.6ns latency. Hows that compare against your DDR2? ;)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y1/mac124/screenies/ballistix1760mhz.jpg
Heres mine
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/512/ramlatency.png
Up the FSB mate its better than just upping the multiplier ;)
busman3000
12-08-09, 21:48
Yeah I might. I lowered the timings and the benchmark got worse ?!?!?!
My ram is 1066, if I up the FSB should I drop it to 800 and then increase to allow a good ratio? or try and take it above 1066?
Depending on the ram you could do either, i'd just drop the cpu multi by one and up the fsb till you get to around the same 3.5ghz speed, IF it doens't boot or is unstable then drop the memory multi and repeat.
busman3000
13-08-09, 10:34
okay, ill try it soon and get back to you guys with results.
See if you can drop the timings as well.
busman3000
13-08-09, 12:02
Running prime atm done 20minutes stable.
Running at 250 fsb with a 14x multi. (3.5ghz)
NB is at 2500 and ram is at 1000mhz, 1:2 ratio. currently at 5-6-6-18.
Temps are 30C core temp, 43C cpu. 40C mobo.
What do you think i should do next.
Has it made any difference to the everst results?
I would probably leave it that for a while mate.
Any difference on the benchmarks? The timings have dropped quite a bit eh? with only a 70mhz loss in speed.
Looking good.
busman3000
13-08-09, 12:49
I'm not sure, I tried to get a command rate of 1, but it failed to show anything onscreen so i had to reset cmos, its right under the gfx card so it's hella annoying to get under there.
I'll change it now and be back in a few minutes with new bench's.
Yeh my cmos is pretty annoying, old mobo used to recover after 6 restarts. I have managed 250 but i couldnt get it fully stable, ugh i hate trying to get the settings right.
busman3000
13-08-09, 12:55
Original oc. (if i tighten the timings, the bench gets worse :chairfall:)
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/6929/cachemem1.png
new oc. (worse)
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/5350/cachemem2.png
Most bizarre?
Try 245, the auto settings, assuming you have them set, will probably reset the NB/SB to 2000 @ 250, does on mine anyway.
busman3000
13-08-09, 13:01
My NB is at 2500
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/3705/26159172.png
I disabled all that garbage that messes up my OC. (the stuff that trys to manage stuff automatically)
I might just put it back to how it was before o.O
Thats really really strange, i read an article on Xbitlabs or maybe Bittech that tested all these different memory modules and showed that memory at less Mhz, say 1066 vs 1333 was actually faster with tighter timings than the higher clocked memory.
I guess you have found different.
What happens to the bencies if you increase the Mhz and loosen the timings, you should be good for around 1125 - 1150Mhz with your RAM.
You sure about that?
Was playing with some earlier today, "only" running at 1760mhz. 10000+MB/s read, almost 8000MB/s write 45.6ns latency. Hows that compare against your DDR2? ;)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y1/mac124/screenies/ballistix1760mhz.jpg
http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=19299&d=1224032024
i can get 10k 11k 9.5k if i push the ram higher but this is the best img of mine i can find online atm.
not bad for ddr2 :)
With tighter timings and 250 fsb, im getting worse results than high overclocked ram and 200 fsb.
busman3000
13-08-09, 14:59
Same with me mate.
I have a tossup atm, higher overclock on 3 cores, or lower overclock on 4 cores, i cannot get the 4th core stable on 3.5 or 3.4ghz.
it will be the internal latency that rises with the higher frequency, mine on the other page is 499 if up it just 1 to 500 and it drops again untill i get it near 525. you might need to mess with a lower multi and higher ht.
SNIP...
i can get 10k 11k 9.5k if i push the ram higher but this is the best img of mine i can find online atm.
not bad for ddr2 :)
Not bad at all, i suspect your's is the exception rather than the rule though. Also i am slightly bemused how your write speed is faster than your read speed? Though as i recal your pc's do some strange things ;).
Been playing some more and i think this is about as good as it gets for now, i did run at 245 fsb / 3.9ghz with better results but then it promptly BSOD'd so that didn't really count.
Picked 4gb of ocz plat 1600 up for £40 so will try that too when i get it.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y1/mac124/screenies/everestresults.jpg
i got a good p35, it was these gigi p35 v2.0's that were doing 600 plus fsb for the guys on the xs forums.
i spent a while playing with my timings and the fsb/PL to get it as good as i could.
memset is a good app for testing in windows :)
Cant get mine fully stable at 3.5ghz.... The 4th core is pretty crap too, that is causing prime fail every time.
Maybe you got one that is actually faulty, rather than just disabled :(
Ive taken it back to everything stock. Im going to methodically test.
Should have gone to specsav.... i mean Intel
its now running all cores stable at 3.5 ghz, just need to up the northbridge and overclock the memory.
busman3000
14-08-09, 11:27
nice.
Ram running at 1600 with timings of 10-10-10-26 2T, will get a benchmark.
How did you get the dodgy core stable?
I just took nb speeds back to normal. Its prime stable with stock ram speeds and stock nb and 3300 i can use the stock voltage, to get to 3500 i need 1.5v for 4 cores, and temp peaks at about 60 ish, i need a better cooler. I am going to slowly push up the northbridge speeds to try and get some more speed.
Should have gone with an OC friendly intel :P
For nearly twice the money? No thanks ;)
I have my Phenom II 720 stable now at 3.4GHz :D I feel sorry for the sucker who gets my CPU ;)
busman3000
14-08-09, 22:56
I have my Phenom II 720 stable now at 3.4GHz :D I feel sorry for the sucker who gets my CPU ;)
hahahaha!
Is Lynx the first one to get this core unlocked on this forum?
New CLUB?
Phenom II X3 720 needs it's own club as its a bloody brilliant CPU!
busman3000
15-08-09, 00:08
My motherboard doesn't support unlocking :(((
what SB you got?
Edit: wtf I am retarded I have that motherboard...I'm such a 'tard ahaha so yes you can't unlock on it!
busman3000
15-08-09, 11:19
Club member 2.
I put it in my name first, im member number 2.
Lynx can we have a organised club with an identical tag? :D
busman3000
15-08-09, 16:15
No you didn't Lynx..., did you?
plus i did mine properly.
the core 216 club is noob :p with there lag (yes I've been wanting to say that for ages) :D
GTX 260 Core 216 CLUB: - Member #1
GTX 260 Core 216 CLUB: - Member #2
GTX260 Core 216 Club Member 5
8800GT Club Member: #12,453,212 (just for the lolz)
and also there unorganized
I did have mine in first mate, :P
busman3000
15-08-09, 19:29
are you sure? what time did you put it in
i';d rather be member #2 in #2 clubs than what ive got in there atm
I put it in like after seeing the post last night.
busman3000
15-08-09, 19:35
Nice one mate.
busman3000
15-08-09, 22:13
You got the popcorn out late Will we sorted it ages ago.
OT: I can't believe the amount of people that judge a rig solely by its:
a) Hard drive capacity
b) Graphics card memory
c) cpu clock speed
d) cores (where more is always better)
e) ram
wonderlust
15-08-09, 22:19
I agree,
2 of my three systems would be major laughter factors in some places!
Still running Amd 939 chips on Asrock boards, one using onboard graphics :D
cheap systems and still plenty quick enough for the tasks they are used for.
Absolutely, it "amuses" me the amount of people who spec terrabytes of hdd space for people, why?? I have never needed more than a few hundred gig tbh.
Main reason i have the pc's i do is because i am lucky to have a hobby that "finances" them.
wonderlust
15-08-09, 22:31
err i have half a dozen 500Gb drives :redface:
but thats because I am too lazy to burn my movies to dvd
I don't doubt some peple "need" them just some people assume everyone does ;)
I have used over 75% of my 1tb before format, I make use of my 1tb
Maybe its just me then, lol, i don't make use of *cough* free downloads *cough*, due to my weedy 1mb download capability.
wonderlust
15-08-09, 22:58
hehehe we not all into freebies ;)
DVD backups, all my games and music, it all adds up!
wonderlust
15-08-09, 23:13
sure does, doen't take may blueray rips at 8-15Gb a movie at 1080P
busman3000
16-08-09, 11:55
even 10mb download is too slow to go for bluray rips :(
wonderlust
16-08-09, 12:13
lol depends on how patient you are.
I use mule so I expect to wait upto a week ;)
busman3000
16-08-09, 12:54
DVD rips come down in around 10-15 minutes, its fine for me.
wonderlust
16-08-09, 13:21
just grabbed an Iso from M$ 2.5Gb in 20 mins :D
DVDs take about 5 mins on private tracker at 2.2MB.
wonderlust
16-08-09, 13:40
Oh I so wish cable was available here :(
busman3000
16-08-09, 16:01
Where do you live, the outback? h3h3
wonderlust
16-08-09, 16:24
no North Kent!
Next towns over in the 3 directions (water to the north) have Cable my town does not).
busman3000
16-08-09, 16:41
Send an email to VM demanding cable.:mrgreen:
wonderlust
16-08-09, 17:00
lol tried that in the NTL Tellewest days...
I cant complain too much I get between 12-14Mb on Sky LLU ADSL ;)
busman3000
16-08-09, 20:45
I don't see the problem then haha
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